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Staro 28.01.2026., 16:17   #2941
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Mene spasilo što nisam imao sifon.
Znači podrum sam u staroj zgradi, negdje je nastalo začepljenje izvan zgrade, i meni se vraćalo nazad u wc.
Kako nisam imao sifon, sve to što se vraćalo je završilo u kadi.


Da sam imao sifon, imao bi show program.
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Staro 28.01.2026., 16:40   #2942
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Mislim kaj ako pukne cijev ili recimo poplavi vešmašina? Kam bu ta voda otišla?
Najebao si iovako ionako - sifon ne može progutati toliku količinu vode. Ajd, mašinu bi još i izdržao, ali ako ti pukne fleksibilno crijevo si jebao ježa sa sifonom i bez njega.
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Staro 28.01.2026., 18:41   #2943
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Ako se sruši zgrada, sifon isto neće pomoći. Ako tvoje područje pogodi asteroid, sifon isto neće pomoći. Sifon se ne ugrađuje zbog situacija gdje ne može pomoći nego zbog situacija gdje može.
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Staro 28.01.2026., 20:45   #2944
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Najebao si iovako ionako - sifon ne može progutati toliku količinu vode. Ajd, mašinu bi još i izdržao, ali ako ti pukne fleksibilno crijevo si jebao ježa sa sifonom i bez njega.
Imao slučaj u tada kupljenom novom stanu. Vodovod nešto zajebo i u cijeli kvart je došlo negdje 10-15 bara tlaka. Zgrada nije imala reduktore pritiska u šahtu kod vodomjera za stanove što ja nisam znao. Kupaonica je imala sifon, ali su pločice visile na drugu stranu prema hodniku i dnevnoj. Potopilo mi stan jer je propustio sigurnosni na bojleru i izbilo crijevo koje je gore bilo.
Da je keramičar obavio posao kako treba ja ne bi morao mijenjati laminat u cijelom stanu :-)
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Staro 28.01.2026., 21:15   #2945
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daj već kad ste u vodi - ste silikonirali štok od vrata od kupatila? majstor mi je štok stavio do pločica (viđam kod ljudi da ostave cca pola cm od poda u novijim stanovima). da to silikoniram?
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Staro 28.01.2026., 21:22   #2946
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Obavezno! Pogotovu ako je ovaj "MDF" nove generacije. Kad vidi mokru krpu, nabubri... Cigani

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Staro 28.01.2026., 21:28   #2947
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Taj novi "MDF" je najbliži srodnik kartona.
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Staro 28.01.2026., 21:32   #2948
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ma to je to da. izgleda lijepo ali mater prokletu šta je nježan. hvala na potvrdi.
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Staro 28.01.2026., 23:43   #2949
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Mi smo uvijek predlagali stranki silikoniranje, bez iznimki. Taj sugavi mdf hoce nabubriti na ruzan pogled. Imali smo gro reklamacija ekipe koja ima kade pored vrata i onda malo po malo prscu po vratima i ode sve u k. Znaci nikakve poplave, samo kapljice dodju do golih rubova lajsni/stoka. Ako su losi kantevi, hoce se i laminat dignuti kada recimo vjesas na vrata vlazne sugamane od mora itd.
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Staro 03.02.2026., 13:54   #2950
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Jel zna neko kako se ovo cudo cisti? Odvidao sam dojnji taj otvor, nemam ja tu pristup nicemu, pokusao sam sa tankom cetkom za cistit boce al to ne ide nista daleko unutra, na internetu nema apsolutno nikakve informacije ni videa niti icega....

Mislim da se radi o ovom modelu
https://samcro.hr/katalog-proizvoda/...dvod-dn50-dn40
Očistio, ulio mr musculo, pa onda isprintao spoj za crijevo za vodu i protjerao vodu kroz sifon i to ga je rijesilo
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Staro 04.02.2026., 10:37   #2951
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Sad još isprintaj poklopac sa 4 rupice za knauf vide, može i iz 2 dijela da ne moraš sad skidat crijevo ... 😀
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Staro 04.02.2026., 10:54   #2952
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Imam poklopac al nisam ga stavio , a ovo sa slike sam zamjenio sa dvostrukom geberit splitterom sa nepovratnim ventilom da mogu i susilicu ubacit.
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Staro 05.02.2026., 16:05   #2953
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za kuhinjski bojler - uzet običan 5 - 10 litarski, ili protočni? obzirom da IONAKO uvijek radi po skupoj struji nekako naginjem na protočni. 3.5kW ali ih troši samo tih par minuta dok trošim vodu (za isprat pijate i oprat kuhinju). za situacije kad mi duže treba topla voda, protočni će mi ju dati, dok običan neće, i s vremenom se nakupi kamenac pa od 5 litara efektivno imam 2. i onda ga nakon 3 godine bacim.
PS imamo mašinu


kako imate vi rješeno?
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Staro 05.02.2026., 16:09   #2954
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Obican. Za protocni treba imati instalaciju, i dovoljno zakupljene snage u HEPu inace neces moci nista koristiti dok on radi. A voda je u protocnom malo toplija od mlake, i protok je dosta slab, jer mora stici ugrijati vodu.
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Staro 05.02.2026., 16:17   #2955
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ovisi koji protočni je u pitanju, nama je protočni odličan, preporučujem.
Nismo imali nikakvih potrebnih skalamerija oko HEP-a, ali jesam provukao posebnu žicu za njega.
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Staro 05.02.2026., 16:48   #2956
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Možda sa špricom epoxya, to zna bit 2,3 eura u lidlu
Imaš pakovanje od 5 kg.
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Staro 05.02.2026., 17:22   #2957
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ja sam trazio da mi spoje kupaonski bojler na kuhinju, po meni najbolja opcija ako si u procesu renovacije, ako nisi, tesko bit pametan
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Staro 05.02.2026., 17:36   #2958
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za kuhinjski bojler - uzet običan 5 - 10 litarski, ili protočni? obzirom da IONAKO uvijek radi po skupoj struji nekako naginjem na protočni. 3.5kW ali ih troši samo tih par minuta dok trošim vodu (za isprat pijate i oprat kuhinju). za situacije kad mi duže treba topla voda, protočni će mi ju dati, dok običan neće, i s vremenom se nakupi kamenac pa od 5 litara efektivno imam 2. i onda ga nakon 3 godine bacim.
PS imamo mašinu


kako imate vi rješeno?
Nemam, i uporno ne razumijem zasto ljudi koji imaju masinu imaju te gutace struje. Ako mi zatreba zakuham nesto vode u kuhalu, a sve ostalo ide u masinu
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Staro 05.02.2026., 17:44   #2959
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Valjda ovisi koji protočni da, gledao sam 3.5kw. Jači ne možemo. Imamo i indukciju pa je to 10 kw samo u kuhinji.
Uzet ću običan onda.

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Staro 05.02.2026., 21:23   #2960
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Sa običnim 10L si u sigurnoj zoni šta se el. potrošnje tiče, mada su blizu 2kW vs 3.5kW.
Valjda nije problem sačekati / raditi nešto drugo 5 - 10 min. dok zagrije ?

Protočni je krasna stvar za line i zaboravne, možda i može (ako paziš) ukupno potrošiti manje struje ali traži snagu u datom momentu.
Najmanji od 3.5kW može na dobru utičnicu, mada je bolje staviti fiksni spoj jer tu ide 16A, poželjno i zaseban osigurač.
Ima još jedan potencijalni problem kod protočnog a to je da traži odr. protok vode, tako je napravljen / tek poviše nekog protoka pali grijač, a manje od toga ga gasi.
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