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Staro 17.11.2025., 05:55   #2851
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Zanimljiv razvoj događaja.
Možda ih spora tranzicija W10->W11, rast prodaje Macbooka i sav taj backlash po internetima ponukaju na introspekciju.
Pa izbace Windows Pro Pro
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Staro 17.11.2025., 06:51   #2852
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@tomek@vz, @TheExiled i ostali: čitam i ne vjerujem da ste se opet uspjeli uhvatiti u mrežu tupavog trolla koji je više puta ponovio da je totalna tehnička neznalica i da ga uopće ne smeta što vas i nas smeta kod operativnog sustava Windows 11 i Microsoft-ovih eskapada koje su u isti implementirane. Zašto se opet nasjeli i trošili životnu energiju na osobu koja sama kaže da je troll? Ako je čovjek odlučio sam skinuti hlaće i donje rublje, napuniti anus nekim lubrikantom i pustiti da mu sazad uđe Microsoft, i što je još nabolje, on to voli i želi i uživa, zašto ga vi opet idete uvjeravati u suprotno. Čovjek je proizvod i nema s time problema je puši i guta sve servirano, kako je rekao kolega @mkey ide linijom manjeg otpora bez sekiranja. Ovako samo vi ispadate smiješni a on vam se smije. Pustite ga da i dalje guta sve to pa makar na uši i nos curilo van. Niste mi jasni da nakon svega vi sa njim i dalje imate bilo kakve rasprave i pokušaje da ga uvjerite u nešto. Čovjeku je danas očito bilo dosadno i opet vas je nasadio. Živio Windows 11, najstabilniji i najbolji operativni sustav, blagoslovljeno od @MladenXY. Živjeli i Bog vas blagoslavio.

Jer je pokusaj vodenja normalnog, argumentiranog i konstruktivnog razgovora vredniji od toga da svi ignoriramo takve individue ili jos gore nastane svada, cak i kad imaju suprotno misljenje od naseg. Covjek uvijek mora pokusati biti bolji prema drugima i ne spasti na njihov nivo. Nikad neznas kad se i takvima pamet prosvjetli pa mozda i takvi shvate da takav nacin dijaloga na forumu ni u stvarnom zivotu nije pozeljan. Svatko ima pravo na svoje misljenje i pravo koristiti sto zeli na privatnim uredajima. Ustrajnost u racinonalnom i pozitivnom je lijek za takve stvari. Osim ako prijede u duboko trollanje i vrijedanje/omalovazavanje/podhebavanje. Onda treba takvima opalit digitalni samar.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 07:45   #2853
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ali sasvim je OK nazivati windows korisnike glupima i lijenima? Zašto na to nitko nije reagirao?
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Staro 17.11.2025., 08:07   #2854
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Zanimljiv razvoj događaja.
Možda ih spora tranzicija W10->W11, rast prodaje Macbooka i sav taj backlash po internetima ponukaju na introspekciju.
Pa izbace Windows Pro Pro
To je samo PR smirivanje, to su indijci i gurati ce sto su zapoceli. A i zakupili su enormne kolicine kapaciteta za AI, reklo bi se, oni su all in i nema povratka. Online account ce postati pravilo, kao i spremanje na one drive, Microsoft zeli trenirati AI na nasim filovima i smatraju kompjuter koji smo mi kupili svojim vlasnistvom.
A da ne pricam nakon svakog updata kako resetiraju masu postavki, smatraju ljude korisnim idiotima i pitanje je vremena kad ce ponuditi pretplatu na Windowse.

Mislim da sada svi placu za ludim Ballmerom, koliko god je bio lud, slusao je korisnike i nije ih omalovazao kao ovaj indijac.

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Staro 17.11.2025., 08:15   #2855
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ali sasvim je OK nazivati windows korisnike glupima i lijenima? Zašto na to nitko nije reagirao?
Nije problem samo u Windows korisnicima (dakle iskljucivo ekipa koja koristi Windows) - problem koji imamo je da su ljudi kao stvorenja vrlo lijena u promjeni navika pa da im zivot ovisi o tome. Velika vecina, pogotovo u danasnje vrijeme. Za mene - to je glupo. IQ korisnika nema veze s tim jer isto sranje imas kod nekih vrlo inteligentnih individua (samo zavisi u kojem podrucju). No interesantno kako si se zalijepio bas za tu stavku od svega sto smo naveli i osjetio se prozvan - bez da je tebe osobno itko prozvao. Izvini ali braniti megakorporaciju kad vuce antikorisnicke poteze i onda to jos naplacuje je krajnje glupo. Dakle jos jednom - ne kazem da si ti glup - nego da je takvo razmisljanje glupo. Cisto da bude jasno.


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Mislim da sada svi placu za ludim Ballmerom, koliko god je bio lud, slusao je korisnike i nije ih omalovazao kao ovaj indijac.

Ballmer je bio legenda, bar je znao ljude i nasmijati .
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Staro 17.11.2025., 08:39   #2856
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Nije problem samo u Windows korisnicima (dakle iskljucivo ekipa koja koristi Windows) - problem koji imamo je da su ljudi kao stvorenja vrlo lijena u promjeni navika pa da im zivot ovisi o tome. Velika vecina, pogotovo u danasnje vrijeme. Za mene - to je glupo. IQ korisnika nema veze s tim jer isto sranje imas kod nekih vrlo inteligentnih individua (samo zavisi u kojem podrucju). No interesantno kako si se zalijepio bas za tu stavku od svega sto smo naveli i osjetio se prozvan - bez da je tebe osobno itko prozvao. Izvini ali braniti megakorporaciju kad vuce antikorisnicke poteze i onda to jos naplacuje je krajnje glupo. Dakle jos jednom - ne kazem da si ti glup - nego da je takvo razmisljanje glupo. Cisto da bude jasno.

Mocrosoft bi branio nikada, branim svoj izbor da sam zadovoljan ili čak jako zadovoljan sa windowsima 11. Kao što rekoh po mom iskustvu nikad nisu bili bolji, stabilniji, brži, samodostatni itd. Bio nedavno bug sa taskom i to je doslovno jedino što sam uspio skužiti, tj. ne bi ni skužio da se nije pisalo jer je popravljeno. I treba se pisati o problemima ali valjda se može pisati i kad ke netko zadovoljan.
Može li bolje, uvijek može bolje.
Valjda postoje ljudi koji ne prelaze jer su zadovoljni na nešto što uopće nije kompatibilno sa njihovim upotrebljivim zahtjevima. Jer to je samo OS, valjda nismo toliko glupi da ne znamo koji nam bolje koristi za naše potrebe.
A Microsoft može sutra propast kaj se mene tiče.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 09:05   #2857
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To da si ti zadovoljan ljudi ovdje mogu prihvatiti.

Ono što ti ne možeš prihvatiti je da dobre stvari koje navodiš dolaze sa puno loših stvari. Tvoj odgovor na to je "šta me briga" i to je isto nešto što ljudi ovdje, uglavnom, prihvaćaju. Ako iz nijednog drugog razloga onda zato jer nema druge.

Naravno da očekujem da ćeš nastaviti kontinuirano ponavljati kako tebe nije briga što MS radi s tvojim podacima. I to je ono što u pravilu izaziva reakcije ljudi. Nitko ne napada tvoj izbor niti tvoj nivo inteligencije, jer ih jednostavno nije briga.

Naučio sam da se velika većina ljudi neće nikada promijeniti i to je tako. Problem je što ta masa vuče dolje sa sobom nas preostalu manjinu, a to je nešto što nikako ne mogu prihvatiti.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 09:08   #2858
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A Microsoft može sutra propast kaj se mene tiče.

Ni govora. Svijet treba Microsoft ali - u boljem i eticki prihvatljivijem obliku nazovimo to tako. Treba nam konkurencija i vise otvorenih standarda u ovom trenutku. I kao sto sam rekao - nitko tebi ne brani da koristis sto tebi odgovara na vlastitim racunalima. Ali negirati cjelokupnu situaciju i stanje stvari , te gurati glavu u zemlju ko noj i tvrditi da je sve super jer je tebi super - nije optimalno da se tako izrazim. Ako si svjestan svega i dalje zelis koristiti sto god zelis - nikog nije briga niti ima pravo to kritizirati. Samo imaj na umu da svi mi koji kritiziramo softwer (ne korisnike) to radimo jer imamo iskustva sa oba (ili vise proizvoda) i znamo da je kod konkurencije stosta bolje rijeseno (ne sve naravno, nema softwerskog rijesenja bez nedostataka , bugova i ostalih musica koje zivciraju barem 1 korisnika). Covjek u zivotu uvijek treba biti realan , bez obzira jel u pravu ili nije.
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"Windows is evolving into an agentic OS," Microsoft's president of Windows Pavan Davuluri posted on X.com, "connecting devices, cloud, and AI to unlock intelligent productivity and secure work anywhere."

But former Uber software engineer and engineering manager Gergely Orosz was unimpressed. "Can't see any reason for software engineers to choose Windows with this weird direction they are doubling down on. So odd because Microsoft has building dev tools in their DNA... their OS doesn't look like anything a builder who wants OS control could choose. Mac or Linux it is for devs."

Davuluri "has since disabled replies on his original post..." notes the blog Windows Central, "which some people viewed as an attempt to shut out negative feedback." But he also replied to that comment... Davuluri says "we care deeply about developers. We know we have work to do on the experience, both on the everyday usability, from inconsistent dialogs to power user experiences. When we meet as a team, we discuss these pain points and others in detail, because we want developers to choose Windows..." The good news is Davuluri has confirmed that Microsoft is listening, and is aware of the backlash it's receiving over the company's obsession with AI in Windows 11. That doesn't mean the company is going to stop with adding AI to Windows, but it does mean we can also expect Microsoft to focus on the other things that matter too, such as stability and power user enhancements.
Elsewhere on X.com, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella shared his own thoughts on "the net benefit of the AI platform wave ." The Times of India reports: Nadella said tech companies should focus on building AI systems that create more value for the people and businesses using them, not just for the companies that make the technology. He cited Bill Gates to emphasize the same: "A platform is when the economic value of everybody that uses it exceeds the value of the company that creates it."Tesla CEO Elon Musk responded to Nadella's post with a facepalm emoji.

Nadella said this idea matters even more during the current AI boom, where many firms risk giving away too much of their own value to big tech platforms. "The real question is how to empower every company out there to build their own AI-native capabilities," he wrote. Nadella says Microsoft's partnership with OpenAI is an example of zero-sum mindset industry... [He also cited Microsoft's "work to bring AMD into the fleet."]

More from Satya Nadella's post: Thanks to AI, the [coding] category itself has expanded and may ultimately become one of the largest software categories. I don't ever recall any analyst ever asking me about how much revenue Visual Studio makes! But now everyone is excited about AI coding tools. This is another aspect of positive sum, when the category itself is redefined and the pie becomes 10x what it was! With GitHub Copilot we compete for our share and with GitHub and Agent HQ we also provide a platform for others.

Of course, the real test of this era won't be when another tech company breaks a valuation record. It will be when the overall economy and society themselves reach new heights. When a pharma company uses AI in silico to bring a new therapy to market in one year instead of twelve. When a manufacturer uses AI to redesign a supply chain overnight. When a teacher personalizes lessons for every student. When a farmer predicts and prevents crop failure.That's when we'll know the system is working.

Let us move beyond zero-sum thinking and the winner-take-all hype and focus instead on building broad capabilities that harness the power of this technology to achieve local success in each firm, which then leads to broad economic growth and societal benefits. And every firm needs to make sure they have control of their own destiny and sovereignty vs just a press release with a Tech/AI company or worse leak all their value through what may seem like a partnership, except it's extractive in terms of value exchange in the long run.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 12:32   #2860
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Samo nek forsaju ai. Kad bi bar time isforsirali devove aplikacija koje koristim za posao da se malo vise okrenu linuxu. To bi bio top 😀
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Staro 17.11.2025., 13:11   #2861
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nikad nisu bili bolji, stabilniji, brži
Zanima me tvoje viđenje ovog?

https://forum.pcekspert.com/showpost...postcount=2482

Od Windows 95 do Windows 10, svi su bili brži u ovom kontekstu. Ili ne primjećuješ ili su Windows 11 jedini OS koji si koristio pa ti je ovo brzo

Also, sva ta telemetrija (kod mene bar) vuče osjetno više resursa nego kod prethodnih Windows verzija, pogotovo vidljivo na slabijim office mašinama. Usudio bi se reći da je Microsoft hijackao naš hardver u svrhu data mininga, i zbog tog sva ta strka oko "kompatibilnosti" sa Windows 11, kako bi si osigurali brži hardware kako bi i dalje mogli neometano mineati podatke
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Win11 su, po mom iskustvu, najsporiji Windowsi do sada.
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Win11 su, po mom iskustvu, najsporiji Windowsi do sada.

+1, identicno iskustvo.

Kad se samo sjetim da su prve verzije win 10 radile uredno na mehanickim diskovima. I onda su u medjuvremenu nesto promijenili pa je os na mehanickom disku postao zesca koma.
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Onda se vratimo na temu. Na koju Linux distru da pređem, igram između ostalog online igre i imam razne periferije, želim da je sve podržano kako treba i da nemam pad performansi.
Evo želim i ja biti dio naprednog svijeta i da im zaparim i blokam svoje vrijedne privatne podatke. Nek se bogate na drugim naivcima, koji ni ne znaju da su krajnji proizvod te su kao što je rečeno na prethodnoj stranici, glupi i lijeni (nisu moje riječi).
Želim omogućiti bolju budućnost mojim unucima, da nisu marionete poput njihovog dede. Želim biti primjer
Ak hoćeš da sve dela i da moreš igrati, ostani na Windowsima.
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+1, identicno iskustvo.
Možeš se malo zavarati tako da mu pogasiš sve efekte. Switchat ovo na "best performance"...
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Taj best performance je nekada pomagao kada si imao hardware negdje blizu donje granice specifikacija. Ja sam u pravilu većinu toga gasio jer me nerviralo. A sada je to šta, workaround
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Kad bi bar bio workaround. Pomogne za nijansu, ali daleko je to od starih UI performansi.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 15:40   #2869
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Nemojte bezveze gasit te efekte. To su trivijalne stvari za danasnji hardware. Nije to problem win11. Vec jednostavno resursi i upotreba hardwarea. Neki dan rendam nesto na poslu, vidim traje cijelu vjecnost. Kad, zauzece procesora 2-3%. Kontam WTF, gledam disk zauzece skoro 100%. Nesto po NVME drlja do besvjesti. Kad, on swapa na disk ono sto ide u RAM jer windows 11 misli da nema dovoljn rama.

Komp ima 128GB DDR5. No comment.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 16:25   #2870
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To je vjerojatno dio razloga zašto windowsi više nisu prikladni za mehaničke diskove. Ne treba se odupirati napretku
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Staro 17.11.2025., 16:27   #2871
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Vjerojatno bi se culo non stop rostanje, to je nevjerojatno koliko windowsi pisu po ssdu.
Jos malo ce i sata ssdovi postati prespori.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 17:59   #2872
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To da si ti zadovoljan ljudi ovdje mogu prihvatiti.

Ono što ti ne možeš prihvatiti je da dobre stvari koje navodiš dolaze sa puno loših stvari. Tvoj odgovor na to je "šta me briga" i to je isto nešto što ljudi ovdje, uglavnom, prihvaćaju. Ako iz nijednog drugog razloga onda zato jer nema druge.

Naravno da očekujem da ćeš nastaviti kontinuirano ponavljati kako tebe nije briga što MS radi s tvojim podacima. I to je ono što u pravilu izaziva reakcije ljudi. Nitko ne napada tvoj izbor niti tvoj nivo inteligencije, jer ih jednostavno nije briga.

Naučio sam da se velika većina ljudi neće nikada promijeniti i to je tako. Problem je što ta masa vuče dolje sa sobom nas preostalu manjinu, a to je nešto što nikako ne mogu prihvatiti.
Uopće se ne želim opterećivati sa stvarima na koje ne mogu utjecati globalno. Kao što sam pisao odrastao sam u vrijeme kad si u svom domu morao paziti kaj pričaš pred prijateljima i susjedima. Što je naravno pogrešno i loše. Ovo danas mi je teška kamilica. Ako smijem napisati, a da se netko ne naljuti, nemam ništa protiv kontrole sve dok ne vidim da se ista pogrešno koristi. Kontroliraju me na cesti, koliko vozim, da li sam vezan, da li pijem, da li pričam na mobitel. Internet je javni prostor, intanet je privatna mreža.
Kaj se tiče upotrebe mojih podatak za njihov profit, meni ni iz džepa niti u džep. Tj. dobijem u džep njihov jeftin a dobar proizvod. Da se ne ponavljam.

Većinom komentiram direktan proizvod. Ak ne valja velim sranje, ak valja pohvalim.
Kad se sjetim kakvi su drlozi bili windowsi nekada ovo danas je divota. Ni brige ni pameti, gamepad u ruke i deri. Surfaj kam želiš, sve trpi bez problema. Nakon tri godine od instalacije, brzi kao i prvog dana. Ni jedno smrzavanje, bosd, neka blokada i sl.

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Zanima me tvoje viđenje ovog?

https://forum.pcekspert.com/showpost...postcount=2482

Od Windows 95 do Windows 10, svi su bili brži u ovom kontekstu. Ili ne primjećuješ ili su Windows 11 jedini OS koji si koristio pa ti je ovo brzo

Also, sva ta telemetrija (kod mene bar) vuče osjetno više resursa nego kod prethodnih Windows verzija, pogotovo vidljivo na slabijim office mašinama. Usudio bi se reći da je Microsoft hijackao naš hardver u svrhu data mininga, i zbog tog sva ta strka oko "kompatibilnosti" sa Windows 11, kako bi si osigurali brži hardware kako bi i dalje mogli neometano mineati podatke

Nemam pojma, ne sjećam se tu neke razlike kroz windowse. Vjerovatno je otvaranje foldera prije bilo daleko brže, meni i sad otvara brzo. To mi je totalno nebitno. Kaj se tiče windowsa koristim kompove puno prije windowsa, od zx spectruma

Ono kaj se sjećam je virusna gamad koju danas ne vidim ko ni potrebu za antivirusnim programima, vatrozidom i sl. glupostima, pa čisti windowse i sl davna prošlost., instaliram/deinstaliram 50-100 igri i ništa, ništa nije povukao deinstalacijom i počelo kenjati. peri/deri.

evo posnimio
https://youtube.com/shorts/S7vs4NJa6...25uZ8hE540l7zh

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: Mladenxy. 17.11.2025. u 18:35.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 19:20   #2873
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Nemam pojma, ne sjećam se tu neke razlike kroz windowse. Vjerovatno je otvaranje foldera prije bilo daleko brže, meni i sad otvara brzo. To mi je totalno nebitno. Kaj se tiče windowsa koristim kompove puno prije windowsa, od zx spectruma

evo posnimio
https://youtube.com/shorts/S7vs4NJa6...25uZ8hE540l7zh
Nije isti use case, ovdje je explorer window već loadan, ja sam snimio otvaranje foldera sa deskopa.

Ali nema veze, ako si ti zadovoljan. Znam da mene taj input lag toliko usporava da sam sigurno duplo sporiji u navigiranju kroz windows explorer (i standardno cut/copy/paste/delete) u usporedbi sa Win 7 i starijim.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 19:36   #2874
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https://youtube.com/shorts/aM90zpIkx...yeH_gnwRF1bQa-

evo sa desktopa, vani je pljusak komp je nečujan da ne bi bilo

Ja tu fakat ne vidim nikakv problem, ne kažem da nema laga ali da nisi sad spomanuo nebi ni znao. U biti nikad ni nemam foldere na desktopu.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 20:07   #2876
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Bitno da se pojedinci nađu iznenadjeni i uvrijedjeni kada se određene grupe ljudi naziva lijenima i glupima
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Staro 17.11.2025., 20:12   #2877
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A gle pustite čovjeka na miru, za nekog tko nezna za bolje , ne shvaća (nit pokušava shvatiti bit rasprave ni činjenice koje se stavljaju na stol) ono što ima je zakon, tak je i naš Mladen. Starim ljudima ćemo oprostiti , ionak ih nebreš mjenjat. Nekad je značilo starost - mudrost. Danas više ne. Mladen ima svoj đir i to je to. Samo s druge strane - dali nam treba na forumu netko tko konstantno truje normalne rasprave što očito živcira većinu forumaša bez ikakvih posljedica? Shvaćam slobodu govora ali podjebavanje pola foruma (svjesno ili nesvjesno) bi trebalo biti izuzeto od toga. Za sve ima lijeka, pa tako i za ovakve , samo treba forumska Milicija početi trenirati strogoću. Mislim da bismo trebali kao forumska zajednica gledati da na forumu možemo civilizirano i činjenično raspravljati o temama bez ovakvih ragebait padobranaca. Bez obzira jesu li si sami krivi za svoj karakter i ophođenje sa ostalim članovima ili ne. Ili ćemo se svi ponašat kak spada ili...Tito.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 20:20   #2878
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ali sasvim je OK nazivati windows korisnike glupima i lijenima? Zašto na to nitko nije reagirao?
Ako te ovakav uspije uvrijediti, to je tvoj problem
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Staro 17.11.2025., 20:50   #2879
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Ako te ovakav uspije uvrijediti, to je tvoj problem

Jašta, samo pogledam kaj im piše pod "moj komp" i sve je jasno ko suza.
Anyway, nedaj se Mladene, rijedak si glas razuma ovdje.
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Staro 17.11.2025., 21:00   #2880
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Tomek, jedan kurtoazni čovjek koji živi van sistema, kada su ga pitali kako se ljudi slažu kada nema sistema da ih tlači, je kazao nešto tipa "better behave cordially or you might get shot!"

Mislim da nam mladen dobro dođe za treniranje samodiscipline, dosadan bi bio svijet u kojem se svi slažu. Je da bi bilo lijepo da malo odmori, ali pretpostavljam da mu godi pažnja, pa eto. Nemam ja ništa protiv pro windows komentiranja, nego nabijanje po tome kako njega za ništa nije briga
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