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Staro 07.11.2025., 09:40   #871
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Kod mene 5 pawnanja, so far so good...
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Staro 07.11.2025., 12:00   #872
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Sudjelovao sam, odnosno pokušao sudjelovati dva puta.
Ne razumijem. Ili si sudjelovao, ili nisi sudjelovao. Ne razumijem sto znaci da si "pokusao sudjelovati". Ili mislis da se sudjelovanjem samo broji ako je tvoja ideja docekana s velikim ovacijama i konfetama?

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Dobra je stvar sto, koliko je meni poznato, svako e-Savjetovanje koje je provedeno nije izbrisano iz sustava, a to je od 2015. godine, tako da ti se vjerojatno nije problem prisjetiti se prijavkom na sustav.

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Jedna od ljepota javnih savjetovanja je sto lagodni priloški turcizmi poput "sijaset" pretvore u konkretan prirodni broj. Vidi opasku od gore.

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Da se vratim na temu (koja uopće niti nije tema ovdje, škužajte), mogu kazati da je refleksija nastojanja sudjelovanja u savjetovanjima (u vidu pokušaja utjecanja na pravičnost, logiku i pravdu) na krajnji ishod bila sve u svemu jedna velika nula. Ništa, drugim riječima.
Drugim rijecima - ljutis se jer tvoji prijedlozi (koji su i dalje na razini apokrifnog) nisu prihvaceni. To je prirodno, ali i infantilno, ako razumijes proces.

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Moram prihvatiti kako praćenje takvog beskrajnog zakonodavnog procesa iziskuje investiciju koju si mnogi ne mogu priuštiti.
Ajde, prva konkretna i tocna. To, u principu, i jest prva barijera. Upravo zato treba anihilirati sve uhljebske parazitske drkadzije iz raznih civilnih udruga i udrugica koje sisaju proracunske pare i potom prde u čabar, umjesto da upravo rade na osvjestenju ovih problema, sto prije svega nije njima u interesu.

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Ako netko želi inzistirati na vjerovanju kako je takvo savjetovanje značajka demokracije, ja mogu izraziti samo nevjericu, ali naravno da je svatko slobodan vjerovati što god želi.
Ono sto tebe muci je cinjenica da tu nema vjerovanja, nego opipljivih metrika koje pokazuju golemu razliku u stupnju razvijenosti zemalja u kojima postoji svjesno i aktivno civilno drustvo i onih u kojima ne postoji (kao sto je Hrvatska i, zanimljivo, zajedno s nama blizu dna tapka i jedan Portugal).

Stranice EK su prepune takvih publikacija, slobodno se posluzi, nije potrebna ni registracija.
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Staro 07.11.2025., 14:12   #873
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Još malo distopijskih vijesti, ne preporučam čitanje istih, preporučam aktivno sudjelovanje u radu civilnog društva.


https://www.bug.hr/biznis/meta-svjes...-interni-55047
https://www.bug.hr/umjetna-inteligen...-vremenu-55034
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Staro 07.11.2025., 15:02   #874
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Još malo distopijskih vijesti, ne preporučam čitanje istih, preporučam aktivno sudjelovanje u radu civilnog društva.


https://www.bug.hr/biznis/meta-svjes...-interni-55047
https://www.bug.hr/umjetna-inteligen...-vremenu-55034

Ovo za Metu je odavno očito, što god da im prijaviš na Facebooku, a očigledna je prijevara (ili pronjava) dobiješ za par tjedana odgovor da je sve u skladu sa njihovim pravilima i da ih trebaš bolje pročitati.
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Staro 07.11.2025., 20:01   #875
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Bubi ja volim stručnjacima prepustiti da ocjenjuju u skladu sa svojom stručnosti i prema vlastitom iskustvu. Ako ti kažeš da je nešto infantilno, the dude abides. Doduše, inače stručnjake valja platiti, a ti svoje bisere prolijevaš džabe.
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Doduše, inače stručnjake valja platiti, a ti svoje bisere prolijevaš džabe.
Hvala ti sto brine, ali bas zato sto sam placen, rado cu, bas kako si rekao, baciti biserje pred svinje. Volim vjerovati, barem karmicki, da ponekad i upali, iako je praksa pokazala redovno suportno.

Nego, hocemo li ipak dobiti odgovore na tvoj navodni angazman koji je zavijen velom tajne i tradicionalnim “jedan covjek i jedna zena” trbunjanjima?
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Staro 07.11.2025., 21:21   #877
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Kaže meni upravo moj novi LG OLED da se neće povezati na moj iPhone putem AirPlaya ako mu ne dam na Internet. Mislio sam da za AirPlay ne treba Internet i da to sve ide lokalno ali očito sam se prevario

“Ajmo vidit…”

Otvorim fajrvol. TV se pokušava spojiti na neki Microsoft Azure server a zatim na 34.117.13.189 (189.13.117.34.bc.googleusercontent.com), sve naravno preko HTTPSa da se ne vidi njegov upit. Pretpostavljam da je to DNS-over-HTTPS iliti DoH budući da nije pokušao niti jedan upit na moj lokalni DNS niti bilo koji izvana.

Inače lista onoga na što bi se on spajao pri uobičajenom korištenju je, onako, solidna… iako je od svih pristanaka dobio samo onaj opći za korištenje uređaja.
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Staro 07.11.2025., 22:16   #878
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Kaže meni upravo moj novi LG OLED da se neće povezati na moj iPhone putem AirPlaya ako mu ne dam na Internet. Mislio sam da za AirPlay ne treba Internet i da to sve ide lokalno ali očito sam se prevario

“Ajmo vidit…”

Otvorim fajrvol. TV se pokušava spojiti na neki Microsoft Azure server a zatim na 34.117.13.189 (189.13.117.34.bc.googleusercontent.com), sve naravno preko HTTPSa da se ne vidi njegov upit. Pretpostavljam da je to DNS-over-HTTPS iliti DoH budući da nije pokušao niti jedan upit na moj lokalni DNS niti bilo koji izvana.

Inače lista onoga na što bi se on spajao pri uobičajenom korištenju je, onako, solidna… iako je od svih pristanaka dobio samo onaj opći za korištenje uređaja.

Jel ima uopće još glupih televizora, dakle bez smart OS-a? Većina toga je ionak začas obsolete, a evo ne pada mi na pamet stari Panasonic 43" mijenjat makar više ništa originalnog nemogu koristiti (telka je stara 10 godina). Okačio Nokiu otraga i mir. TV sam po sebi ima solidnu sliku, zvuk je ok i nakon 10 godina (van softwerske funkcionalnosti) radi ko nov. Sve ovo pametno sranje samo hoće prema van komunicirati, i kad treba i kad ne treba.
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E pa stvari stoje ovako: kada VI hoćete komunicirati s kim hoćete onda to treba kontrolirati. Kada vaš frižider komunicira s nekim prema naredbi proizvođača, onda to treba biti tajno. Naravno, za Vašu sigurnost Ne daj bože da neki hakeri po putu vide podatke o vama koji se šalju nekamo.
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Na koji način vršite internetske uplate? Do sada sam kombinirao Gpay (tekući račun) i karticu žiro računa, međutim PBZ mi je javio da su mi blokirali karticu jer je netko u Kanadi i još negdje pokušao upotrijebiti moju karticu tekućeg računa.

E sad, što se tiče "sumnjivijih" stranica, mogu se sjetiti samo jedne, ali nisam siguran na koji način sam izvršio uplatu, ne vjerujem da sam im dao podatke svoje kartice tekućeg računa...

Sad razmišljam da internet kupovinu obavljam putem Gpay-a i to koristeći Aircash.

Gpay bi grebao sakriti stvarni broj kartice koliko znam?

Možda bolje prijeći na Revolut?

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Po meni ti je OK bilo koje rješenje koje podrazumijeva korištenje kartice koja vuče s računa na kojeg uplaćuješ novac prema potrebi. Mislim da i neke banke nude takve usluge.
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SNI je vidljiv kod inicijalnog TLS handshake-a, pa barem možeš vidjeti na koji virtualni host se spaja. ESNI još nije doživio neku široku upotrebu.

Ako nije napravio DNS lookup, možda je cachiran od ranije jer hardkodiranje je manje vjerovatno, eventualno da je Azure bio DNS lookup, moguće DoH, kao što si napisao.

Edit: Ako postoji mogućnost rootanja tog TV uređaja, možeš ubaciti svoj CA i progurati kroz mitmproxy, bilo bi zanimljivo vidjeti šta točno šalje. Sad me zanima IP adresa Azure servera. :/

Edit: Sad vidim da je ECH nadogradnja na ESNI. Outdated sam.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/encrypted-client-hello/

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account.meethue.com
api.account.meethue.com
client.meethue.com
cluster-web.meethue.com
diagnostics.meethue.com
discovery.meethue.com
gateway.meethue.com
services.meethue.com
ws.meethue.com
www.account.philips-hue.com

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@buger, nedavno napravio revolut. Odlicna stvar. Napravi virtualnu karticu jednu odmah, na njoj drzis koliko hoces i rokaj. Nju sam spojio sa paypal, stavio na ali, amazon i ostale. I placam sve racune sada snjom umjesto silne fee-eve lihvarima davat.
Stime da nisam glavni tekuci pbz spojio na revolut nego dodatni prepaid viza, pa se zato dvoumim dali i taj racun u pbz-u zatvoriti. Po meni nebi trebalo biti problema jer ionak ja filam i saljem lovu kad mi treba, nije sa ide direkt sa tekuceg na revolut...
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Na koji način vršite internetske uplate? Do sada sam kombinirao Gpay (tekući račun) i karticu žiro računa, međutim PBZ mi je javio da su mi blokirali karticu jer je netko u Kanadi i još negdje pokušao upotrijebiti moju karticu tekućeg računa.

E sad, što se tiče "sumnjivijih" stranica, mogu se sjetiti samo jedne, ali nisam siguran na koji način sam izvršio uplatu, ne vjerujem da sam im dao podatke svoje kartice tekućeg računa...

Napravio Revolut prije par godina i otad sva internet plaćanja radim preko jednokratnih kartica. Revolut ti generira karticu, platiš njom i automatski se blokira, pa ako sa sajta procure podaci o kartici nema veze jer je ionako neupotrebljiva. Ali ako ti sajt mora napraviti povrat novca to može bez problema.
Fizičku karticu si naručiš jer ima dobre konverzije pa kad u nekoj non-euro zemlji plaćaš neće te ubiti sa provizijama za konverziju.
Možeš ga vezati i na GooglePay ako baš treba.
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Jel ima uopće još glupih televizora, dakle bez smart OS-a? Većina toga je ionak začas obsolete, a evo ne pada mi na pamet stari Panasonic 43" mijenjat makar više ništa originalnog nemogu koristiti (telka je stara 10 godina). Okačio Nokiu otraga i mir. TV sam po sebi ima solidnu sliku, zvuk je ok i nakon 10 godina (van softwerske funkcionalnosti) radi ko nov. Sve ovo pametno sranje samo hoće prema van komunicirati, i kad treba i kad ne treba.

Prodaja korisničkih podataka je toliko isplativa da neki proizvođači TVa temelje biznis model na tome. Npr. https://www.howtogeek.com/767919/tv-...n-selling-tvs/

Osobno nikakvom SmartTVu ne dam na net, spojio sam Tiny PC preko HDMI kabela na Samsungov SmartTV i s njime gledam Youtube i ostale streaminge. Sam TV nema nikakav pristup netu. Bonus takvog setupa je i što možeš birati browser i dodatke pa se i reklame lako maknu.
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ja imam složene whiteliste za IP od televizije, i samo tome može pristupati, svidilo mu se to ili ne.
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@Night kako si daljinsko upravljanje slozio, klasicni mis ili imas neki drugi trik?
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Jedna od opcija, Logitech K400.
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@Night kako si daljinsko upravljanje slozio, klasicni mis ili imas neki drugi trik?

Logitech M650L bežični miš. Bio sam uzeo i Logitech K400+ tipkovnicu sa integriranim touchpadom, ali sam zaključio da mi to ne treba, miš je dovoljan, ako baš zatreba tipkovnica imam ju u on-screen izdanju.
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Tnx! Dugo sam koristi K700 za slican setup (jos je imam negdje u ormaru) pa me zanimalo jel ima sta bolje za kontroliranje pc-a. Htio sam se upgrejdati na K600, ali njih je jos teze naci nego onomad K700 :/

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