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Staro 29.05.2025., 13:48   #31
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Tako je, sad dela. Prepoznao mi je browser signing servis od Certillie i uredno me promptao cert selekciju
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Staro 31.05.2025., 08:10   #32
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Koliko se sjećam, nismo imali nikakvih problema oko toga. Jesi uredno aktivirao e-osobnu preko onog eID Middleware softvera?
Mislim da ništa drugo ne trebaš, samo to instaliraj, spoji čitač i ubaci osobnu. Koji browser koristiš?
kao padobranac - kakav je to čitač? odakle vam to? ja nisam aktivirao osobnu jer to nemam, pa shodno tome ne mogu koristiti app e-građani...
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Staro 31.05.2025., 09:12   #33
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Na egradjane se mozes spojiti i sa tokenom od banke i to je dovoljno za skoro sve stvari, osim zahtjeva za izdavanje dokumenata i sl. stvari koje traze visu razinu autorizacije.
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Staro 31.05.2025., 09:14   #34
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Imaš li ovaj redak u hosts fileu?

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Kod mene nema ovog retka, pa opet eraticno radi. Ali skuzio sam nesto - najcesce ne radi jer komp hiberniram i browser mi je uvijek upaljen. Kod budjenja kompa logiranje karticom ne radi dok ne restartam browser. Nista brisanje kukija, force refresh... Samo restart browsera pali.
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Staro 31.05.2025., 13:36   #35
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Ja imam ovaj, samo mislim da sam dosta manje platio za njega.
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Staro 31.05.2025., 15:26   #36
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Nekad ih je bilo po 60 kn u Chipoteci, onda su digli na 120 kn, sad ne znam koliko je to eura...
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Staro 31.05.2025., 16:03   #37
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Manje više svaki kojeg sam probo dela. Imam neke stare koje sam još na faxu dobio za čitanje E-indeksa kad su se tek pojavili, taj se pokazo najpouzdaniji još. Probo sam iz vica i neki prastari sa Win98/WinXP markacijama na sebi, sav žut već od sunca, malo sporije očita osobnu, al isto šljaka Cura kupila neki random kad su se prodavali masonvo nakon uvođenja e osobnih, crko u roku odma.

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Staro 01.06.2025., 07:57   #38
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Na egradjane se mozes spojiti i sa tokenom od banke i to je dovoljno za skoro sve stvari, osim zahtjeva za izdavanje dokumenata i sl. stvari koje traze visu razinu autorizacije.
pa to je i ponata -da si sam isprintam dokument i da što manje pohodim leglo uhljeba .
zato bi i htio takav koji mi daje "veće ovlasti"
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Staro 01.06.2025., 12:09   #39
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kao padobranac - kakav je to čitač? odakle vam to? ja nisam aktivirao osobnu jer to nemam, pa shodno tome ne mogu koristiti app e-građani...
Ne trebaš imati čitač. Danas je to glupost kupovati samo za e građane jer kad aktiviraš e osobnu instaliraš si Certilia i ne treba ti više.

Ako ti nema tko za posuditi, e osobnu možeš aktivirati i u policijskim postajama ( https://gov.hr/hr/mup-i-akd-pozivaju...-certilia/2433 ).

Samo ti trebaju papiri koji su došli uz osobnu, ako ih nemaš moraš zatražiti nove.

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Staro 01.06.2025., 13:41   #40
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Potpis na ovo. Mi smo duuugo taj citac koristili, ali sad ga imam samo za penzice u familiji koji jos koriste dummy fonove i koji eto NE zele aktivirati screen lock opciju na smartfonima (pin/pattern/prst) jer Certilia trazi biometriju za laksu verifikaciju, ali prihvaca i pin/pattern ako ga preferiras.

Svi smo presli na Certiliu. Koliko god puta to aktivirao rodbini, uvijek neki korak zajebem i zaboravim tocne upute. Ful je jednostavno kad skuzis, ali evo ni sad ne znam gdje sam i koje sam upute pratio pa cu se vjerojatno i sljedeci put zajebat. Tako da bi rekao kako je dokumentacija malo traljava i lako se izgubiti u terminologiji koja te se ne tice niti te zanima (kao mene).
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Biometrija je problem penzicima ali i svima onima koji nisu skroz naskroz oduševljeni sa nadolazećim bio digitalnim zatvorom Minimum što mogu (i moram) napraviti je da im ne pomažem.
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Staro 01.06.2025., 21:19   #42
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kao padobranac - kakav je to čitač? odakle vam to? ja nisam aktivirao osobnu jer to nemam, pa shodno tome ne mogu koristiti app e-građani...

Kao što su kolege odgovorile, ne treba ti čitač za e-građanin, postoji puno načina prijava.
Mislim da sam ga čak kupio u Interšparu , došao je 7-8 eura ako se ne varam. Ali sa mbankingom dobiješ treću razinu, što ti je dosta za manje više sve, jedino ne možeš predat zahtjev za izradu putovnice i sl.
Uzeo sam čitač jer mi je lakše te egrađanin pizdarije klikat na PC-u nego stiskat po mobitelu, tako da mobilnu certiliu nisam ni aktivirao. Koliko čujem proces je zabavan i pun iznenađenja
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Kao što su kolege odgovorile, ne treba ti čitač za e-građanin, postoji puno načina prijava.
Mislim da sam ga čak kupio u Interšparu , došao je 7-8 eura ako se ne varam. Ali sa mbankingom dobiješ treću razinu, što ti je dosta za manje više sve, jedino ne možeš predat zahtjev za izradu putovnice i sl.
Uzeo sam čitač jer mi je lakše te egrađanin pizdarije klikat na PC-u nego stiskat po mobitelu, tako da mobilnu certiliu nisam ni aktivirao. Koliko čujem proces je zabavan i pun iznenađenja
Pa logiraš se na PC i samo radiš autentifikaciju putem moba. Ne trebaš ništa klikati na mobu nego prisloniti prst kad dođe push notifikacija.

A ne znam zašto je proces "zabavan" i pun iznenađenja. Aktivirao sam hrpi ljudi jer imam čitač (kupio ga dok nije bilo certilije) i nikada nikakvih problema. Ono ljudi od 70+ godina koriste bez problema pa nekom na ovom forumu to ne bi trebao biti problem.

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