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Staro 16.01.2025., 15:13   #541
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The Intel Arc B570 becomes most interesting when taking into account its $219 price point and that for Linux users is backed by fully open-source and upstream drivers.
Ima i AMD open source drivere, a ispada da je B580 pandan 7600, s time da je u nekim situacijama i dosta ispod. Meni se kod ovih intel kartica najviše sviđa dizajn, jednostavno i bez gluposti.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Najveći problem je kaj ih izuzev nekoliko američkih dućana, skoro, pa nigdje nema za kupiti, posebice po tim reklamiranim cijenama, a performansama su u rangu prošle i pretprošle Radeon i GeForce generacije donjeg dijela tržišnog segmenta. Obzirom na Intelovu sveopću situaciju i činjenicu da praktički rasprodaju, gase ili zatvaraju sve kaj im stvara trošak, ostaje samo pitanje vremena kad budu se domogli i ARC GPU divizije, jer su puno veći i profitabilniji odjeli otišli u ruke novih vlasnika ili su pak kompletno ugašeni.
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Po meni je super imati i treću stranu na tom nesretnom GPU tržištu. Ja, doduše, još uvijek čekama Larabee
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Da, tak je i ta cijela priča počela, tj. ljudi su na točno taj način čekali nove kartice, ali od prvog dana je sve bilo u rukama prodavača magle od kojih je još samo Tom Petersen u opticaju.
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Intel reportedly abandoned higher-end ARC Xe2 "Battlemage" dGPU project last year
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Intel GPU enthusiasts have been waiting patiently for news regarding higher-end models; ever since the launches of wallet-friendly Arc Xe2 "Battlemage" B580 and B570 graphics cards. As the cliché goes; recent silence has been deafening—we last heard about a speculative expanded lineup of B-series SKUs around late January. At the time, three mysterious "Battlemage" PCI identifiers turned up online; courtesy of Tomasz Gawroński's detective work. Opinions were split about the exact nature of these leaked "BMG" IDs; one camp envisioned Team Blue having professional variants of their existing B580 in the pipeline—presumably with generously specced pools of 24 GB VRAM onboard. A more optimistic group posited that Intel's Arc Xe2 desktop gaming family would welcome more potent "B750, B770," and (maybe) "B780" SKUs.

Yesterday, Tomasz Gawroński (aka GawroskiT) interacted with another notable source of inside track information: Jaykihn (jaykihn0). Plenty of Team Blue-related "scoops" have emerged via Jaykihn's social media channel; mostly predictions regarding upcoming desktop, mobile and enterprise CPUs. Their latest leak indicates Intel's alleged abandoning of a high-end/larger "BMG-G31" GPU die in 2024; within the third quarter of that year. Insiders have long insisted that the Arc Xe2 "Battlemage" project navigated choppy waters during development; hence the appearance of endless theories about the whole caboodle being called off. Jaykihn clarified that he believes that a "retail" launch of "BMG-G31" dGPUs will no longer take place. Many watchdogs will assume that a gap will be filled by forthcoming Arc Xe3 "Celestial" discrete GPUs. Jaykihn stated that they have no fresh insights into how that project is going.
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MSI is expected to utilize AMD’s Ryzen AI Z2 Extreme APU for their next “Claw” gaming handheld, potentially ditching Intel
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MSI reportedly plans to release the "Claw" handheld featuring AMD's Ryzen Z2 AI Extreme APU, potentially shifting away from Intel to prioritize high-end performance. With Intel's Lunar Lake "Core Ultra 200V" processors, there weren't many handhelds adopting the lineup, but the one product that did stand out was the MSI Claw 8 AI+ device, which was not only the company's first handheld device, but it was basically one of the first "Core Ultra" gaming handhelds as well. It is claimed that MSI plans to switch towards Team Red for a future handheld release in the Claw lineup, potentially adopting the Ryzen Z2 lineup and ending the exclusivity with Intel's processors.

However, we are unaware of whether MSI will entirely shift to AMD, similar to its competitors like ASUS, or will have a lineup offering both Intel/AMD options, but the latter seems highly unlikely since integrators need to be in an "exclusive" agreement with either of the CPU manufacturers. It is claimed that MSI will utilize the flagship Ryzen Z2 AI Extreme model, an APU that was recently disclosed in a leak. This particular model is said to feature a dedicated NPU engine but is said to be of similar specifications to the Ryzen Z2 Extreme, which comes in a total of 8 cores and 16 threads configuration, maximum boost clock of 5.0 GHz, and a 16-core RDNA 3.5 iGPU. Compared to the Intel Core Ultra 7 258V, the Ryzen Z2 AI Extreme is expected to dominate gaming workloads, which might be one of the reasons why MSI has decided to switch vendors.

For now, nothing is official, but the rumor does show that AMD has managed to attract most of the manufacturers in the handheld segment and has created a dominant market share.
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Help us, Intel. You're our only hope
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This video is a mix of information gathering and 'talking head' style content. We're reporting on Intel's current position with new information from its Arc GPU partners, plus providing our own commentary and opinions about how Intel's position in the GPU market is more important than it may seem. Intel isn't vying for first -- it's vying for second, and that means someone to keep AMD in check rather than allowing AMD to comfortably sit with status quo. Maybe with the two of them fighting each other, there could be a real chance at better low-end and mid-range GPUs. This is just us talking about it all.
Svaka čast Heavy Metal Steveu na pomalo naivno optimističnom ARC osvrtu, posebice obzirom na aktualno stanje cijele firme, ali bojim se da Intel nije u poziciji da nekome pomognu.
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MSI Claw A8 with Ryzen Z2 Extreme tested: performance rival for Lunar Lake
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The brand, previously known for using only Intel chips, is now first to market with a next-generation AMD-based handheld. MSI was the first, and essentially the only major brand, to adopt Meteor Lake for a gaming handheld. However, that version was (simply put) a commercial failure. MSI later upgraded it to use Lunar Lake and even released a new version with a larger 8-inch screen. Despite early setbacks, the Core Ultra 200V-based handheld remains one of the best gaming systems on the market, thanks to its significantly improved Xe2 graphics architecture.

The Ryzen Z2 Extreme also features a newer architecture and now includes RDNA 3.5 graphics, an upgrade from the previous generation’s RDNA 3. The GPU subsystem has also been improved, with the Radeon 890M now offering 16 Compute Units. 2 Extreme delivers strong performance across a wide power range. At 35W, it scores over 3600 points for GPU and 8800 for CPU in 3DMark Time Spy, matching the HX 370 in graphics but trailing in CPU. It clearly outperforms the older Z1E and competes closely with Intel’s Core Ultra 258V, offering better CPU performance but slightly lower GPU results. At 12W, the Z2E surpasses the Z1E by a noticeable margin and nearly matches the 370, pulling ahead in efficiency when total system power is equal. At 25W and above, performance is similar between Z2E and HX 370, with Z2E offering better power efficiency.

In real-world gaming, the Z2E shows strong efficiency, especially in low to mid power ranges. In Ghost of Tsushima at 11-13W, it delivers the highest frame rate and longest battery life at around 3 hours and 40 minutes. In more demanding games like Expedition 33, it maintains over 30 FPS, while the Z1E falls behind. In lighter titles 2E leads at low power levels, achieving up to 8.5 hours of battery life. However, Intel’s 258V still dominates ultra-low-power gaming, maintaining stable 60 FPS at very low wattages and offering up to 11 hours of battery life in some cases.
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Intel opens up XeSS 2 to nVidia and AMD GPUs with SDK 2.1.0
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Intel on Thursday released the XeSS 2 SDK version 2.1.0, with which it announced support for non-Intel GPUs. This would be any GPU that supports Shader Model 6.4, which are GeForce GTX 10-series "Pascal" or newer from nVidia, and Radeon RX 5000 RDNA from AMD, or newer. The update opens up not just super resolution (XeSS SR), but also frame generation (XeSS FG) and low latency (XeLL), however, using XeLL requires XeSS FG to be enabled, it cannot be exclusively used. The release of XeSS 2 SDK would make it possible for game developers to update their binaries to support XeSS 2, and expose the feature-set to even non-Intel GPUs. At a hardware-level, XeSS 2 would rely on DP4a compute to run its super resolution and frame generation models. Only on Intel Arc "Alchemist" or "Battlemage" GPUs will the technology leverage XMX accelerators.
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MSI Claw handhelds with Ryzen Z2 Extreme & Intel Lunar Lake tested against one another
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The AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme, which is also the top-of-the-line SoC in the Z2 lineup, is showing noticeably higher performance on the Claw A8 when compared to the Claw 8 AI+. The latter uses the Lunar Lake Ultra 7 258V, an 8-core/8-thread chip based on the TSMC N3B process node, which brings the Eight Xe2-based GPU cores. The Z2 Extreme, on the other hand, is based on the older TSMC 4nm node but offers 8 cores and 16 threads with clocks reaching up to 5.0 GHz. The iGPU is equivalent to the Radeon 890M, bringing 16 compute units based on RDNA 3.5 architecture.

With such improvements on the MSI Claw A8, naturally, gamers will likely pick the Z2-based version for smoother performance, particularly when it offers a higher TDP range, which can go as high as 35W. Nonetheless, Lunar Lake still shows impressive performance and could bring similar or better value if the price for the Claw 8 AI+ is lowered. Up until now, most handheld manufacturers opted for the custom Ryzen APUs and Strix Point chips for their latest handhelds, and the Ryzen Z2 lineup offers a solution for every budget (from 4-core to 8-core APUs). Intel Lunar Lake, on the other hand, doesn't offer versatile options and sticks to only 8-core chips.
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ID-jevi velikog Battlemage chipa (B770 ?) su se tijekom ljeta pojavili u Mesa kodu:
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Intel has yet to formally announce the B770, but several indicators strongly suggest the GPU is nearing completion:
  • Mesa Driver Leaks: Linux Mesa graphics drivers recently added four new Battlemage IDs, hinting at various GPU variants, including one strongly believed to be the B770.
  • Shipping Manifests: Intel has reportedly shipped BMG-G31 GPU dies to its assembly partners, suggesting the chip is past the design stage and in physical production.
  • Power Supply Guidance: Early engineering guidance suggests the B770 may require a PSU rated at 650W or higher, with a 12V-2×6 (formerly 12VHPWR) connector, similar to the RTX 4080.
Navodno bi se mogao pojaviti u Q4. Nadam se da hoće,
Nakon kojih tjedan dana druženja sa B580 (Sparkle Titan OC), mogu reći da stvar funkcionira jako dobro i bez problema ... za sad.
Ne znam što bi mogao biti problem da B770 nije izašao ranije, TSMC je u pitanju tako da teško da su yield-ovi, možda prije dostupni kapaciteti (4nm rollout?, B580 je na 5nm). Ili možda logistika/partneri ili financijska konstrukcija, s obzirom da su treća rupa na svirali. Tako da evo, zdušno navijam za Intela . I očekujem da će "mali" Celestial naredne godine biti jadnako dobar kao "veliki" Battlemage ove.
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Intel je sam sebi najveći problem, a onda kao dodatni bonus za ARC GPU diviziju angažiraju glorificirane prodavače magle poput Raje Kodurija, Ryana Shrouta i Toma Petersena, a prve dvojice više nema u Intelu, dok ovaj treći i dalje nešto pokušava, samo je pitanje kak dugo. Čovjek koji je stvarno radil na razvoju novih GPU rješenja je još prije tri godine prešel u AMD, nakon kaj je 25 godina provel u Intelu, ali izgleda da je na vrijeme skužil kaj se sprema. Inače ovaj tvoj skok je poprilično impresivan tak da si sad miran opet jedan dulji period, a za Intel i njihove peripetije, nema druge, nego vidjeti kaj sljedeće budu izmislili i izveli, ne samo na GPU polju, već općenito na nivou kompletne firme.
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Laks Pappu joined AMD in August, 2022, after over 25 years at Intel, where he was in charge of Intel's discrete graphics processors codenamed DG1, Alchemist, and Battlemage. He also explored 'multi-tile GPUs' for high-end graphics cards, though for now dual-GPU Battlemage products are aimed at AI workloads rather than on graphics. Laks Pappu, senior fellow and chief system-on-chip (SoC) architect at AMD, appears to be in charge of AMD's data center GPU development as well as Radeon products' architecture for cloud gaming, Navi4x and Navi5x generations.
The Intel ARC Pro B50 is the better alternative to nVidia's A1000
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Kod nas su u prosjeku 300€, barem ovi malo bolji Sparkle modeli, ali lako za to čak, kad ih se uspoređuje sa šrot RTX 5050 i 5060 8GB izdanjima. I još se k tome ne zna kak dugo bude Intel ARC kao divizija uopće preživjela nakon kaj se nVidia dočepa svega kaj valja, mada se obje strane kunu da svaka nastavlja svojim putem uz novu suradnju.
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Staro 30.09.2025., 18:30   #555
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Ja sam uzeo Sparkle u Protisu za 275, sad je 272.
Prema nabavi:
* RX 7600XT 16GB je 376
* RX 9060XT 8GB je 373, 16GB je preko 400
* RTX 5060 8GB je 364, a 16GB 475

Uglavnom, 100 eurića razlike i (najčešće) manje memorije. Jeftinija je samo RX6600 8GB. RTX 5050 8GB je iste cijene.
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Pa nije ovo sada uopće loše, i nije bitno da su tek pred 2mj riješili i rješavaju probleme, glavno da idu napred, cijena je pala, a driveri se poboljšali, što više da rade...dobro je ovo, nemojte biti negativni kada ne treba.
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Nije da sam negativan, samo velim realno stanje stvari, ARC B580 su sad kartice cijenom i mogućnostima kakve su trebale biti od samog početka ili još kad je nVidia imala RTX 3000, a AMD Radeon RX 6000 kao nove na tržištu. Zato se sad ovim ništ posebno RTX 5060 i RX 9060 modelima drže cijene, a kartice su taman za budžet gaming, ništa više, ništa manje, a drže cijenu ko da su ne znam kakva rješenja u pitanju.
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Pitanje koliko su Intelovi planovi bili realni u startu. S fičerima koje ima, kartica je izašla manje-više kad i konkurenti i točno dvije godine nakon Alchemist-a, što je normalna kadenca za novu/poboljšanu arhitekturu. Veći zez je što B770 nije izašao istovremeno, nego ga čekamo godinu dana kasnije.
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Da, nažalost Raja Koduri, Ryan Shrout, Tom Petersen i realnost ne idu u istu rečenicu, pa hardver ni kriv ni dužan ovisi o takvim prodavačima magle, dok su se u pozadini odvijale kojekakve igranke.
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Kada AMD nakon godinu-dvije ima +30% bolje performanse jer su napokon doveli drivere u red, onda je FineWine™. Kada Intel to napravi, onda su nesposobnjakovići koji kasne
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AMD je šrot firma, tu nema dileme, ali ovaj ARC trojac PR i marketing stručLJaka je cijelu stvar u samom startu unazadil do te mjere da prve kartice nisu bile ni upotrebljive po pitanju drivera, tak da je sadašnje stanje milina (1 - 2 - 3), ali to ne mijenja činjenicu da su tek sad u rangu onoga s čim su u početku trebali izaći na tržište i to prema vlastitim najavama.
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Note that these performance gains are due to game-specific updates. This means that not all games will benefit from Intel’s new driver updates.
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To be clear, the issue isn't gone. Even in optimized titles, overhead hasn't been eliminated. But the improvements make it far less of a concern. For most players, it may not matter anymore. So how does the B580 actually stack up? Across the 10 games we tested, the Radeon 9060 XT 8GB was on average 34% faster with the Ryzen 7 9800X3D and 30% faster with the Ryzen 5 5600. On older CPUs, the gap widens further: with the Ryzen 5 2600, the 9060 XT was 27% faster, entirely due to the B580's overhead.
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