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Staro 20.03.2025., 11:35   #2401
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Pitanje ako netko zna: da li je ovakva definicija u ZK dovoljna za kupnju / prodaju preko kredita banke, zgrada je građena prije 1968...

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ZABILJEŽBA, Zabilježuje se da je za upis stambene zgr. br. xxx, Ulica yyyyyy površine
445 m2 sagrađena na kčbr. zzzz/ww priloženo uvjerenje Gradskog ureda za katastar i geodetske
poslove, Odjel za katastar zemljišta i nekretnina, Odsjek 1. (Zagreb), KLASA: 935-08/11-02/247
URBROJ: 251-15-02/1-11-2 od 18. travnja 2011.
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Staro 20.03.2025., 12:32   #2402
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Pitanje ako netko zna: da li je ovakva definicija u ZK dovoljna za kupnju / prodaju preko kredita banke, zgrada je građena prije 1968...
Treba vidjet kaj je to za Uvjerenje pod tom klasom i ur. brojem. Ako je uvjerenje o upisu u katastar prije 1968 u tim gabaritima kakvim je danas, onda bi trebalo biti dovoljno. Moguće da bude banka tražial uporabnu, a na urbanizmu je dobijes uz prilog tog istog uvjerenja.
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Staro 20.03.2025., 13:19   #2403
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Gdje mogu dobiti na uvid to uvjerenje pod tim brojem, i da li mogu uopće osobno?

Gradski ured za katastar i geodetske poslove?
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Staro 20.03.2025., 13:27   #2404
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Ne znam ti reći, probaj tamo. Postoje i državni arhivi koji su u principu javno dostupni, pa bi trebalo i tamo biti, ne znam o kojoj lokaciji pričaš.
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Staro 20.03.2025., 14:27   #2405
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Našao pod ovim brojem upisa Z-neštonešto da izgleda da se radi o povezivanju ZK-KPU, šaljemo upravo zahtjev Gradski ured za katastar i geodetske poslove za izdavanje uvjerenja da je prije 1968...
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Staro 24.03.2025., 00:12   #2406
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Pošto ima ovdje ekipe iz ZG-a, može li me netko uputiti na koji način i kome se dostavljaju podaci za oslobođenje od poreza na nekretnine? Konkretno, ugovor o najmu...
Na stranicama grada ne nalazim info, osim odluke o visini poreza i sl.

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Staro 24.03.2025., 11:25   #2407
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Ja sam preko e-porezne ispunio formu..
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Staro 24.03.2025., 19:43   #2408
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Koliko sam ja shvatio, ne šalje se za oslobođenje od plaćanja, već prijavljuješ nekretninu da biš plaćao porez.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 24.03.2025., 20:29   #2409
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Krivo si shvatio, potencijalno se salje i za oslobodenje i placanje, ovisno o scenariju. Ne salje se (a ni ne placa porez) npr. ako se placa komunalna naknada na toj adresi stalno zive clanovi obitelji (roditelji, djeca,
bračni drug).

Racunam informaticki ste pismeni ljudi, ne budi vam lijeno procitati, sve pise na stranicama porezne: https://porezna-uprava.gov.hr/hr/vla...ekretnine/4815

Izmedu ostalog:
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Radi točnog obračuna ili oslobođenja od obveze plaćanja poreza na nekretnine vlasnici nekretnina dužni su predati Prijavu podataka bitnih za oporezivanje. Važno je napomenuti da to nisu dužni učiniti oni vlasnici nekretnine za koje se plaća komunalna naknada, kao i za nekretnine koje se iznajmljuju na temelju ugovora o najmu ili zakupu koji je prijavljen Poreznoj upravi radi plaćanja poreza na dohodak od imovine.
Takoder na stranicama porezne ima dokument sa 16 primjera i scenarija u kojima je navedeno treba li prijaviti i/ili placati porez: https://porezna-uprava.gov.hr/UserDo...pdf?vel=175886
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Staro 24.03.2025., 20:50   #2410
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E vidiš kako je to super, promijenili su dokument i postojeće linkove redirectali na novi dokument. Prije smo ovdje čitali:
https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/Gradan...ine-vodic.aspx

Sada to vodi ovamo:
https://porezna-uprava.gov.hr/hr/por...nine-4814/4814

Kako je kolega stavio copy/paste (a ja imam negdje taj dokument isprintan u pdf, ali džaba kada oni to mijenjaju kako kome dođe)
https://forum.pcekspert.com/showpost...postcount=2379

Bilo je navedeno (pričamo u unatrag svega par tjedana) kako se porez na nekretnine neće odnositi na nekretnine za koje se već plaća komunalna naknada. Što mi je bilo skroz nejasno, sada su uz to dodali i da se u istoj mora i stanovati, što nažalost ima smisla. Kakva je to jedna predivna ljudska priča.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 24.03.2025., 21:23   #2411
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Znam da je bilo nejasno, ali meni se cini da je s ovim linkovima koje sam gore stavio sad (barem meni za moje scenarije) sve rijeseno i jasno.
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Staro 24.03.2025., 21:50   #2412
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Sada je jasnije, sedam dana do roka. Prije tjedan dana nije bilo jasno.

I dobra je fora što sada gledam što mogu napraviti preko eBoravišta, ili kako se već zove (naravno odmah te napadnu prijetnjama kaznama od 60 do 660€, što nisu stavili 666€ kao flatrate) ali zanimljivo je da u izborniku ne mogu odabrati Ulicu Kneza Domagoja u ZG. Kakva tragikomedija.
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Staro 24.03.2025., 22:12   #2413
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Ali čekajte, ovo je stvarno vrh. Dakle, točka 5.

5.preuzete u zamjenu za nenaplaćena potraživanja, ako je od dana preuzimanja do 31. ožujka godine za koju se utvrđuje porez proteklo manje od šest mjeseci

Može li se ovo ikako pročitati nego kao BANKA? Kakvo kino, koje smo mi ovce za šišanje.

Točka 4 je interesantna, da li bi to značilo da su izuzeti stanovi koji se prodaju barem 6 mjeseci putem neke agencije?

4. koje se u poslovnim knjigama trgovačkih društava vode kao nekretnine namijenjene prodaji, ako je od dana unosa u poslovne knjige do 31. ožujka godine za koju se utvrđuje porez proteklo manje od šest mjeseci

Zanimljiva je i točka 10. Smatraju li se opelješeni penzići socijalno ugroženim osobama? Vjerojatno ne.

10. u vlasništvu osoba koje se, prema odlukama gradova odnosno općina, smatraju socijalno ugroženim građanima.

Milsim i da sam konačno shvatio na što se mislilo s "komunalnom naknadom". Vjerojatno hoće reći kako oni koji plaćaju naknadu ne moraju ništa prijavljivati nego ih budu odrapili po defaultu.

Radi točnog obračuna ili oslobođenja od obveze plaćanja poreza na nekretnine vlasnici nekretnina dužni su predati Prijavu podataka bitnih za oporezivanje. Važno je napomenuti da to nisu dužni učiniti oni vlasnici nekretnine za koje se plaća komunalna naknada, kao i za nekretnine koje se iznajmljuju na temelju ugovora o najmu ili zakupu koji je prijavljen Poreznoj upravi radi plaćanja poreza na dohodak od imovine.

Da nismo tolike ogromne ovce možda smo se makar mogli izboriti da se ukine komunalna kada se već plaća višestruko veći porez na nekretninu. Ali jok.
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Staro 25.03.2025., 19:58   #2414
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Danas su malo htjeli igrati ping pong samnon, ali nije baš išlo. Zvao sam grad da pitam što točno treba učiniti ako je nekretnina "neuvjetna", kako oni vole reći. Zvao sam nekoga zaduženog za imovinu pa me lik preusmjerio na voditeljicu odjela financija.

Ona mi je, pak, kazala kako, ako plaćam komunalnu, budem već dobio rješenje pa se onda mogu žaliti na isto Majko mila. Kažem ja, znam da je najlakše (čitaj najskuplje, najgore) ništa ne napraviti, nego me zanima što točno treba poslati da se pokaže stanje takvo kakvo jeste, pošto je zakon/pravilnik/štali predvidio takav scenarij.

Rekla je da ima dosta dubioza, da svi zovu, da nitko nije siguran i prebacila me na neku ženu zaduženu za financije u županiji. Srećom pa su mi davali konkretne brojeve telefona (koje izgleda znaju na pamet), gdje te inače takva ekipa samo uputi na instituciju generalno, pa se ti *ebi. I neočekivano brzo su se javljali na telefon, što me zabezeknulo.

Nego, gospođa u županiji je kazala kako se na njihov mail može poslati popunjeni zahjev sa fotografijama objekta i potrošnjom struje. Da onda naknadno oni budu slali grad (komunalac?) da vrši izvide. Ne znam jedino kako će oni izvide izvoditi bez pristupa objektu. Ako budu gledali odozgo budu vidjeli da je krov u banani. Ne znam jesu li ih opremili dronovima.

Sve u svemu, opća katastrofa. Mislim da bude od jeseni jako puno začuđenih faca kada krenu frcati rješenja. A žalba ne odgađa izvršenje, jelte.
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Staro 26.03.2025., 10:30   #2415
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imam još pokoje pitanjce za znalce i one koji su to prošli nedavno


situacija je nakon razgovora s (jednom, mojom, matičnom u kojoj imam otvorene račune) bankom ovakva:


- da bi se dobio kredit s ratom od cca. 415-ak € mjesečno, na 30 maksimalnih godina otplate, potrebno je:
- "pumpati" zadnjih šest netto plaća/isplatnih lista s minimalno 1400 € netto
- naravno da mi nema tko biti jamac/sudužnik, niti imam mogućnost staviti bilo šta svoje na hipoteku, da je tako, onda ne bi ni imao pravo sudjelovati na POS natječaju
- prvi problem je na koji nailazim je da bih za gore spomenutu plaću trebao minimalno s računa firme izdvajati umjesto dosadašnje minimalne netto direktorske plaće od 900 €, brutto 2 - koji će vjerovatno u onom trenutku kada bude bio spremna POS zgrada, biti 2500 € brutto 2, ako ne i više od toga, to znači da bih trebao barem duplo više mjesečno zarađivati (govorim u smislu firme), da bih imao toliku netto plaću za isplatiti u ovoj super jeftinoj državi sa minimalnim i "skromnim" nametima


dali ima kakvog smisla obilaziti što je više banaka moguće i pitati ih za ponude takvog stambenog kredita, tj. sve one banke koji imaju ugovor da financiraju POS stanove? dali je moguće "cjenkanje" s bankama? tipa, u XY banci dobio sam kredit za toliko i toliko, dali je moguće kod vas dobiti nešto povoljnije?


ako sam dobro razumio, kredit se ne može tražiti na više od 30 godina? dakle, opcija 35-40 je zapravo nepostojeća? to trenutno ovisi o mojoj starosnoj dobi/godinama ili je općenito to tako, ko god da uzima stambeni kredit, isto je dali netko ima 20 godina ili 60 godina? ili?


i još jedna stvar... u banci su me pitali to za jamca, pa kada sam im rekao da to nije opcija, onda su oni rekli, da im je bitno, kada se krene u realizaciju kredita, da je zgrada etažirana, tako da se oni mogu upisati na moj stan kao hipoteku, a ako ne bude etažirano, da mi neće moći odobriti kredit? pa kolika je logika da kada se sagradi zgrada, prođe tehnički pregled i dobije uporabnu dozvolu da nije ništa etažirano, zar to ne ide jedno prirodnim slijedom, uz drugo?


i zadnja stvar, znam da grad traži nekakvu kaparu avans-unaprijed da se osigura da ću ja kupiti taj stan i da sam ozbiljan, pa traže nekih 20-ak %, ako se ne varam, unaprijed, pa sam u banci i pitao za to, rekli su mi da je moguće već tada krenuti u realizaciju kredita, i kada grad traži avans, da banka uplati banci taj avans, a kasnije ostatak sredstva iz kredita gradu i ja počnem s otplatom... ali, da bi bilo svakako bolje, ako bih mogao imati barem svojih cca. oko 10 000 € sa strane "da ne bi došlo do nekakvih neočekivanih ili neplaniranih situacija"
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Staro 26.03.2025., 10:50   #2416
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Ne znam koliko smisla ima ići po bankama, ni jedna banka ti neće dati da ti bude 50% opterećenje kreditno. Povoljniji kredit možeš dogovoriti ovisno o tome što si sada dogovorio. Banke trenutno imaju oko 3% kamate, neke manje, neke više, ovisno o banci. Cjenkanje je moguće, ali ovisi o bankaru i to je minimalan iznos danas, jer su kamate tako i tako niske. I gledaj to ovako. Ako ti banka ne da kredit danas, a stvarno daju svima, bolje onda ni ne uzimati kredit. Jer ga nećeš moći plaćati, ako imaš čiste račune. Ako si ti prijavljen za 900, a primanja su, karikiram, 1500, to je druga priča. Ali ako ti imaš 900EUR plaću, i želiš 400EUR kredita, budi oprezan.

Jamac, već dugo to banke ne traže, hipotekarni je kredit, tako da jamac nije potreban.

Kredit se može tražiti do penzije, do 65. godine u većini slučajeva, ali ne preko 30 godina.

Što se etažiranja tiče, to ovisi o investitoru, ali da, etažiranje im je bitno, da se ti možeš upisati kao vlasnik i oni na hipoteku. Oni su mislili tu da, zgrada ne mora imati još uporabnu dozvolu a ti već možeš dići kredit, jer etažiranje se radi prije. A ne obrnuto. Uporabana je za APN važna, za stambeni nije, može se to nešto i prije.

Što se kapare tiče, ti bi kaparu dao prije nego imaš ZK i etažiranje? To ne može biti dio stambenog kredita, barem nije bilo moguće do nedugo. Stambeni se isplaćuje kada se banka može upisati na hipoteku, tj. kada je zgrada gotova.

Znam da većina ljudi diže nenamjenski kredit za kaparu.
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Staro 26.03.2025., 10:52   #2417
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Mogao si barem napisati o kojoj banci je riječ...

Za početak, jedan dobar tekst o stambenim kreditima:

https://beonsavjetovanje.hr/financij...na-sposobnost/

Da, ima smisla proći više banaka i cjenkati se. Treba i uzeti u obzir trenutne pogodnosti (smanjene kamate, akcije za besplatnu procjenu, solemnizaciju)... Također treba i vidjeti zahtjeva li i neka banka kakvo dodatno osiguranje ili ne te je razlika kod banaka što sve gledaju u prihode - neki gledaju samo golu plaću, neki uzimaju u obzir i transport, prehranu, stimulaciju itd.

Krediti na više od 30 godina ne postoje, barem ne koliko ja znam. Stambeni kredit ne možeš uzeti na 30 godina ako recimo imaš 50 godina - možeš na max godina do penzije.

Prođi, raspitaj se, plaću neka ti dignu koliko mogu i po mogućnosti nađi banku koja gleda i ove dodatne neoporezive dodatke na plaću tako da te poslodavac ne stera u kurac. Npr. OTP gleda i stimulaciju, i prijevoz, i naknadu za prehranu...
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Staro 26.03.2025., 21:21   #2418
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Frend me ispituje da li ima smisla ići refinancirati u svoju banku, nenamjenski kredit koji se otplaćuje 2018.-2028., iznos ne znam, kamata je sad 7,28%.
Nikad nisam imao kredit pa nemam pojma što da mu kažem
Koliko sam googlao i ovdje vidio to se može samo kod stambenih kredita ili?
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Staro 27.03.2025., 05:53   #2419
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Može se za bilo koji kredit raditi bilo kakvo refinanciranje jedamput godišnje.
Ja sam refinancirao i stambeni i nenamjenski.
Bilo radi manje kamate, smanjiti/povećati ratu, rok otplate itd.
Bar je tako u mojoj banci, sve se da dogovoriti
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Staro 27.03.2025., 05:57   #2420
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Gledam malo to sa porezom. Nema nigdje konkretan primjer renovacije nekretnine koja je trenutno neuseljiva. Ima krov, struju, vodu...nigjde nema primijera renovacije pa pretpostavljam da se i na takvu nekretninu plaća porez...ili?
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Staro 27.03.2025., 07:28   #2421
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Frend me ispituje da li ima smisla ići refinancirati u svoju banku, nenamjenski kredit koji se otplaćuje 2018.-2028., iznos ne znam, kamata je sad 7,28%.
Nikad nisam imao kredit pa nemam pojma što da mu kažem
Koliko sam googlao i ovdje vidio to se može samo kod stambenih kredita ili?
Naravno.

Spustit će mu kamatu na oko 3%, plus, minus. To je jebena razlika.

Frend je na neki mali stambeni, tipa 50k EUR spustio s 4 na 3%, tj. smanjio rok otplate za godinu dana.

Tako da, tvom vrendu, s 7 na 3% biti će ohoho razlika.
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Staro 27.03.2025., 07:31   #2422
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Naravno.

Spustit će mu kamatu na oko 3%, plus, minus. To je jebena razlika.

Frend je na neki mali stambeni, tipa 50k EUR spustio s 4 na 3%, tj. smanjio rok otplate za godinu dana.

Tako da, tvom vrendu, s 7 na 3% biti će ohoho razlika.
Pitanje koliko je kamate ostalo za platit.
Obrati pažnju da mu je kredit do 2028-e.
Razlika bi bez obzira na visinu kamate mogla bit sića.
Otplatni plan mu to jedino može reći...
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Staro 27.03.2025., 07:47   #2423
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Istina, da, ali ništa ga ne košta pitati.
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Staro 27.03.2025., 08:14   #2424
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To je nenamjenski, pa mu neće dati 3%, ali može pitati svakako, možda mu spuste na 5-6%
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Staro 27.03.2025., 08:44   #2425
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To je nenamjenski, pa mu neće dati 3%, ali može pitati svakako, možda mu spuste na 5-6%
Istina, da.
Treba svakako pitati, ako ništa drugo poslati mail.
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Staro 27.03.2025., 10:55   #2426
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Krivo si shvatio, potencijalno se salje i za oslobodenje i placanje, ovisno o scenariju. Ne salje se (a ni ne placa porez) npr. ako se placa komunalna naknada na toj adresi stalno zive clanovi obitelji (roditelji, djeca,
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Racunam informaticki ste pismeni ljudi, ne budi vam lijeno procitati, sve pise na stranicama porezne: https://porezna-uprava.gov.hr/hr/vla...ekretnine/4815

Izmedu ostalog:


Takoder na stranicama porezne ima dokument sa 16 primjera i scenarija u kojima je navedeno treba li prijaviti i/ili placati porez: https://porezna-uprava.gov.hr/UserDo...pdf?vel=175886
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Gledam malo to sa porezom. Nema nigdje konkretan primjer renovacije nekretnine koja je trenutno neuseljiva. Ima krov, struju, vodu...nigjde nema primijera renovacije pa pretpostavljam da se i na takvu nekretninu plaća porez...ili?
Imam slicnu situaciju, stan nije useljiv, zahtjeva renovaciju. Trebas prijaviti stanje da bi bio osloboden poreza. Mi smo prilozili par slika i racune od struje da se vidi da nema potrosnje odnosno da nitko ne zivi tu, vjerujem da bi trebali biti oslobodeni poreza, primjer 12 iz gore linkanog dokumenta:

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Napomena i objašnjenje: Porez na nekretnine ne plaća se na nekretnine kojima je onemogućena stambena namjena. Međutim, da bi bio oslobođen plaćanja poreza, vlasnik nekretnine dužan je prijaviti i dokazati navedeno. Temeljni dokaz je nepostojanje infrastrukture ili drugog uređaja koji to zamjenjuje, ali je moguće koristiti i druge objektivne dokaze (naljepnica, fotografije, izvješće sudskog vještaka i dr.)
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Gledam malo to sa porezom. Nema nigdje konkretan primjer renovacije nekretnine koja je trenutno neuseljiva. Ima krov, struju, vodu...nigjde nema primijera renovacije pa pretpostavljam da se i na takvu nekretninu plaća porez...ili?
Vidio sam da navode i primjer nekretnine koja je u renovaciji, za takve slučajeve "dokaz" je projekt za renovaciju. Poreznici kao poreznici, vole izmišljati a još više vole ostaviti si dovoljno prostora za lov u mutnom.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Zanimam se oko stambenog kredita za izgradnju kuce, znate mozda koja jos banka osim ZABE ima mogucnost hipoteke na postojece gradevinsko zemljiste?
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Staro 27.03.2025., 11:53   #2429
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Iako nisam isao "do kraja" nego samo informativno, mislim da mi je erste prije par godina rekla da mogu na zemljiste staviti hipoteku, ne treba biti druga nekretnina. Nisam potpuno siguran jesam li sve potpuno tocno zapamtio, pricekaj jos nekoga. Cinjenica je da smo tada gledali erste i nemamo nista drugo osim gradj. zemljiste u nasem vlasnistvu.
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Zanimam se oko stambenog kredita za izgradnju kuce, znate mozda koja jos banka osim ZABE ima mogucnost hipoteke na postojece gradevinsko zemljiste?
Sestra i šogor su u Wüstenrotu dobili stambeni za kuću samo sa zemljištem.
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