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Staro 22.12.2024., 22:16   #2191
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e postoje 2 stvari.
1. nema gradevinske i uporabne dozvole za neki manji dio od 37m2 koji je naknadno dodan na dvorisnu zgradu od 170m2. prodavatelj ce to provjeriti i izvaditi uporabnu i za to. meni se cini da je to obicna natkrivena drvarna koja je zatvorena sa svih strana. taman odgovara toj kvadraturi.

2. njegova mama ima pravo na stanovanje dok je ziva. on planira kupit njoj manji stan kad proda kucu. tako da bi ona trebala time biti rijesena. ali moze li nam to u buducnosti raditi problem? ili ako vlasnik proda kucu onda ona nema vise nikakva prava?
mislim, radi se o jednom daljem frendu i poznamo se pa pretpostavljam da nece doci do toga cim ona dobije stan u kojem ce zivjeti. ali...

i ne ide preko banke tipicni kredit. kuca je ostecena u potresu i odlucili smo ici za isplatu i dobili odreden iznos kojim bi kupili kucu a ostatak dodali vlastitom gotovinom. tak da nema odobranja kredita kod banke.

APN bi trebao samo provjeriti da je nekretnina useljiiva i nema ostecenja.
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Staro 22.12.2024., 23:19   #2192
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2. njegova mama ima pravo na stanovanje dok je ziva. on planira kupit njoj manji stan kad proda kucu. tako da bi ona trebala time biti rijesena. ali moze li nam to u buducnosti raditi problem? ili ako vlasnik proda kucu onda ona nema vise nikakva prava?
mislim, radi se o jednom daljem frendu i poznamo se pa pretpostavljam da nece doci do toga cim ona dobije stan u kojem ce zivjeti. ali...
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Može.

Upisane služnosti prate nekretnine, ne vlasnika.
Teoretski, ja bi mogao kupiti tu nekretninu, ali ako stara ima pravo stanovanja, ona može sudskim putem ishoditi presudu, i izbaciti me iz kuće, neovisno o tome što sam ja vlasnik.
Tako da, dok se ne riješi to pitanje (izbriše), ili se ne deponira brisovno očitovanje kojim se briše služnost, ja to ne bi dirao.
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Staro 22.12.2024., 23:22   #2193
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na koji nacin se to brise?
ona da suglasnost da se odrice prava stanovanja?
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Staro 23.12.2024., 09:08   #2194
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na koji nacin se to brise?
ona da suglasnost da se odrice prava stanovanja?

Ona daje brisovno očitovanje kojim daje svoju suglanost da se briše pravo plodouživanja sa njenog imena.


Nego, ne bi ti htio pametovati , ali ne bi ti bilo loše uložiti nešto para i u odvjetnika
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Staro 23.12.2024., 09:32   #2195
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Ja sam to prošao prije 2 mjeseca kod kupnje kuće, ne bi sam to nikada radio.

Agencija + odvjetnik + osobna bankarica, ovako, da moram sam, valjda bi se izgubio 3 puta.
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Staro 23.12.2024., 10:37   #2196
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Hvala obojici.
Prije par godina kod kupnje stana osim bankarice nismo imali previse pomoci sa strane. Sve je islo od papira do papira. Tak da nije bilo zamorno niti komplicirano. Al opet zena nam je napisala sta vse trebamo i isli smo redom.

Ovaj put u prici nema banke tako nema ni bankarice.

Zato sam i pitao ima li kakve razlike u kupnji stana vs kuce.

Sto se nekretnine tiče ne bi trebalo biti problema jer je to jedan frend. Kako je u njemackoj i dolazi za bozic nema previse papira kod sebe. Pa se zelim pripremiti dok on dode da pokusa odraditi sto vise stvari u kratkom roku.

Ali zapravo imamo i dosta vremena.

Nekretnina je cista i na 1/1 na njemu jedino on ima za rijesiti taj sporni dio od 37m2, mamu ispisat iz uživanja i energetski certifikat.

Mozda nademo jos nesto.

Al naravno imamo spremnog i odvjetnika.

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Staro 23.12.2024., 10:43   #2197
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Ja sam kupio 2 stana, riješio sve s 3 odlaska u banku, ali sam kupovao novogradnju od pravne osobne.

Sad sam kupio kuću, od privatne osobe, staru 2 godine.

E to je sad procedura.

Mjesec i pol dana već ganjamo papire, a još nismo završili.
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Staro 23.12.2024., 10:57   #2198
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Sta tocno cekas tako dugo?

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Staro 23.12.2024., 11:04   #2199
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1. Da APN skine teret s mog stana da mogu brisovno učitanje dobiti, to čekam već 3 tjedna.
2. Procjena se čeka 3 tjedna, bez obzira što je kuća A energetski razred.
3. Pisma namjere su se čekala po tjedan dana, ja kao prodavač + ja od prodavača kuće.

Jednostavno traje i traje.
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Staro 23.12.2024., 11:51   #2200
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Hvala obojici.
Prije par godina kod kupnje stana osim bankarice nismo imali previse pomoci sa strane. Sve je islo od papira do papira. Tak da nije bilo zamorno niti komplicirano. Al opet zena nam je napisala sta vse trebamo i isli smo redom.

Ovaj put u prici nema banke tako nema ni bankarice.

Zato sam i pitao ima li kakve razlike u kupnji stana vs kuce.

Sto se nekretnine tiče ne bi trebalo biti problema jer je to jedan frend. Kako je u njemackoj i dolazi za bozic nema previse papira kod sebe. Pa se zelim pripremiti dok on dode da pokusa odraditi sto vise stvari u kratkom roku.

Ali zapravo imamo i dosta vremena.

Nekretnina je cista i na 1/1 na njemu jedino on ima za rijesiti taj sporni dio od 37m2, mamu ispisat iz uživanja i energetski certifikat.

Mozda nademo jos nesto.

Al naravno imamo spremnog i odvjetnika.

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Pa nije baš čisto.
U zemljišnim knjigama ti stoji zabilježba o plodouživanju.
Ili možda čak i nema ako su napravili ugovor o dosmrtom uzdržavanju
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Staro 23.12.2024., 12:07   #2201
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ma cisto je u smislu da je i ona sama rekla da se toga odrice i odlazi u stan. tako da to ne bi trebalo praviti problem.
samo eto nisam znao ponistava li se to prodajom ili ostaje. s obzirom da se to veze na nekretninu kao sto je kolega rekao onda ce se ona i sluzbeno odrici toga. vec zna o tome i rekla je da nema problema.

tako da ce se prvo pocistiti taj teret a onda idemo dalje.

dobri smo si ali opet da ne bi zena dosla za 5 godina s koferima pred vrata
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Staro 23.12.2024., 12:17   #2202
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Nikad neznaš.
Oko nekretnina pucaju bratske veze, kamo ne prijateljske haha
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Staro 23.12.2024., 12:22   #2203
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ma cisto je u smislu da je i ona sama rekla da se toga odrice i odlazi u stan. tako da to ne bi trebalo praviti problem.
tako da ce se prvo pocistiti taj teret a onda idemo dalje.

dobri smo si ali opet da ne bi zena dosla za 5 godina s koferima pred vrata

na sudu nije bitno šta je istina, nego šta se može dokazati.. a ako ti nemaš papir s njenim potpisom da se ona odriče uživanja kuće, gadna stvar..

ako će njoj sin kupiti stan a da je to sigurica, onda nek riješe taj dio da se baba odriče pa onda imaju spremnu i žigosanu potvrdu za bilo kojeg kupca..

nemoj da te baba zajebe, i prijatelj iz dijaspore
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Staro 23.12.2024., 14:43   #2204
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Nikad neznaš.
Oko nekretnina pucaju bratske veze, kamo ne prijateljske haha
+ milion na ovo. Oko nekretnine sve pukne, a kamoli prijateljski odnos u kojem postoji i treća strana.
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Staro 23.12.2024., 14:47   #2206
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ma da da to definitivno ide. prvo nek se ona ispise iz teretovnice pa onda idemo dalje.
al za sad je to sve potvrdeno i nisu imali nista protiv toga. tak da za sad to ne predstavlja problem
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Svakako provjeriti da katastar, gruntovnica i realno stanje pasu jedan s drugim
I to dan prije kupnje ili na sam dan.
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Staro 24.12.2024., 08:31   #2209
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I to dan prije kupnje ili na sam dan.

Zapravo s obzirom na izmjene zakona o zemljišnim knjigama, i postojanje mogućnosti slanja podneska za upis bilo kada elektronički, savjetovao bi provjeravanje neposredno prije potpisivanja ugovora
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Staro 24.12.2024., 10:49   #2211
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ok. sad me malo plasite.
hocete reci da se mi mozemo sve dogovoriti i krenemo potpisivati ugovor a on je uz jutarnju kavicu preko egradani podnio nesto drugo i ja to nisam primjetio?
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ok. sad me malo plasite.
hocete reci da se mi mozemo sve dogovoriti i krenemo potpisivati ugovor a on je uz jutarnju kavicu preko egradani podnio nesto drugo i ja to nisam primjetio?

Ne preko egrađani, nego preko posebnog programa dostupnog odvjetnicima i javnim bilježnicima. Zemljišne knjige se sada ažuriraju u realnom vremenu (ili treba tip 5-10, nisam 100 % siguran) da se pojavi plomba.
Problem je kada se pojavi plomba, već je kasno.

Zemljišnik postupa po načelu tko prvi njegova djevojka, tj tko prvi preda prijedlog za upis, o njegovom se upisu prvom odlučuje.
Bilo je puno slučajeva gdje su ljudi prodali nekretninu 1-2-3 kupca, pa je poslje bio show

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: Colop. 24.12.2024. u 11:31.
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aha to mislis.

ma s obzirom da je ovo prijatelj iz dijaspore i roditelji nam se znaju. nadam se da cu izbjec sve te moguce drame oko tereta i prijepisa
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aha to mislis.

ma s obzirom da je ovo prijatelj iz dijaspore i roditelji nam se znaju. nadam se da cu izbjec sve te moguce drame oko tereta i prijepisa



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+ milion na ovo. Oko nekretnine sve pukne, a kamoli prijateljski odnos u kojem postoji i treća strana.

ovo + milijardu posto.
Svaki dan vidim ovo u praksi.
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ajmo kladaru otvorit
ja vam javim ishod
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Ne daj da te ureknemo, kolega Pa neće te valjda na badnjak zajebat.

Iako ovo što colop piše gore oko tih izmjena u zadnji čas, pa to je katastrofa. Sistem kao da je napravljen da bi te lakše mogli zajebat. Postoji li na ugovoru vrijeme i datum kada je stavljen potpis?
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Ja san prije svakog potpisa u JB ispod stola na mobu refresha katastar i gleda jel se "slucajno" pojavila plomba. Sta je sigurno sigurno je.


@mkey znas kako je prije bilo zajebanije kad se ugovor nosia na zemljisnik u gradu, nije bilo elektronski i katastra na webu...ehh koje su tada malverzacije radili. Prodavac bi taj dan uru prije preda drugi ugovor, dobia pecat od zemljisnika da je predan a ti nebi zna kurca,nego bi isa potpisat i da pare. Dodjes na zemljisnik, a teta kaze za ovu cesticu ima vec plomba od prije sat vremena, tako da je sve iza toga nevazeco. Guglaj,ima toga sad je bolje 100x
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Ja sam npr vidio ne jednom vlasničkom zabilježbu da je XY pustio kaparu vlasniku.
A vlasnik je vidi vraga i dalje prodavao.
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Staro 24.12.2024., 13:20   #2219
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Ovo s kaparom je isto sranje, ali zna se kako se vraća kapara. A to osvježavanje ispod stola, šta ti to znači ako minutu nakon što daš novac nešto opet iskoči? Zato pitam za datum i vrijeme, to po meni može biti jedino mjerilo toga tko je bio prvi. Iako je kod nas to sve, vjerujem, prepušteno slučaju.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 24.12.2024., 13:28   #2220
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Postoji li na ugovoru vrijeme i datum kada je stavljen potpis?

Nije bitan trenutak-dan-sat kada je ugovor potpisan, nego kada je prezentiran Zemljišniku na provedbu, tj kada ga je primio zemljišnik.
Npr ugovor iz 2010 će se proknjižiti prije ugovor iz 2025 ako je primljen na uknjižbu prije ugovora iz 2025.

Dakle, tko prvi preda na zemljišnik, prvi je u prednosnom redu.


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