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[QS]

Baš drama jebiga - ja dogurao do 15 sa svojim Fusom, ne ide dalje bez tier 8 broda (kojeg nemam)

Skupio za Nagata ganjajući se po rankedu - i učim ponovo od nule sve. Brod je .... ehhhhhh

Ajd prije nego pošaljem sve u Tri Primorske Mornarice - ima li koja dobra duša da mi kaže kako da od Nagata napravim poštenu barku? Kontam da secondary build više nije baš in - Schwabe me pojedoše čim im priđem malo bliže. NoCar mi šalje dalekometne pozdrave iz Rovinja i slične muke.

Kontam sniper/tenk build za ovu barkicu a secondarije ostavit da maltretiraju DDove koji dođu blizu Ili sam skroz u krivu?

Pomagajte braćo

P.S. Brod je stock žešći - skupljam za B hull pa propulšn pa C hull...

[danijel_b]

Hull pod obavezno kupi, čak ni onda nije oklop nešto naročito. Nemoj se direktno kaciti s T8 BB jer ćeš izgubiti, gadjaj onog koji ne gleda tebe i naravno opleti po cruiserima.
16" topovi će te razvaliti, kao i poneki 15". Protiv njih ti englanje ne pomaže previše.
Protiv 14" si siguran, aka T6 BB

[T}{OR]

Točno to što danijel kaže. Prije svega, na T7 postoji nekoliko užasnih stock grindova na koje se više nego isplati potrošiti free XP ako ga imaš. To su stock Colorado, Nagato i Pensacola. Makar Hull B uzeti.

Kod BB-a je još slučaj da ne samo što su to WWI hullovi, nego i lošije WWI granate.

Druga stvar je velika promjena na T7 što se tiče kalibra topova, vezano uz overmatch mehaniku. Svaki BB na T7 (osim mislim njemaca) može drugoga kroz nos probiti dok na T6 to mogu samo Warspite i Bayern.

Pravilo ide ovako nekako:

Shell Calibre > 14.3x Thickness of Enemy Armor
For example Yamato's 460mm shells will always penetrate a bow armor of a Iowa because 460mm > 14.3 x 32mm = 457.6mm

No, nije sve tako crno. Baci oko na ovaj Flamu-ov filmić kako igrati Nagata gdje super opisuje kako točno napraviti angling (ne 0° pramac kao recimo North Carolina ili Yamato, već pod blagim kutem):




PS: Prema ovom pravilu, zgodan info za vozače (i obrnuto) Baltimore / Des Moines ako nalete na Bismarcka / Tirpitza:

Balmer i Des imaju 27mm bow armor. 14,3 x 27 = 386,1 > 380mm ... iliti imuni su ako se postave na pramac ispod 10 km. Druga stvar je što jedan ima secondary-e a drugi torpeda.

[QS]

A build i module jel može tko preporučit?

[Gigi1]

falmu noob!

[T}{OR]

Autor QS

A build i module jel može tko preporučit?

Trebao bi biti link u videu gore.

Autor Gigi1

falmu noob!

Bolje da ne znaš koje sam ja gluposti radio jučer s Des. Dve partije overextend i prvi na dnu. Poludio sam na TS-u, taman si uletio onda.

Mislim da će neka pauza od igre pasti uskoro jer sam se previše počeo živcirati oko iste, dobrim djelom radi svoje gluposti.

[danijel_b]

Ja sam vec na pauzi hehe. Treba očistiti tijelo od toksina

[Gigi1]

Autor danijel_b

Treba očistiti tijelo od toksina

[T}{OR]

Buff Mogami (kutevi kupola) i New Orleans (redizajn oklopa - osjetno pojačan) sa PTS:

Više detalja:

All I can say to start is, wow. This is a massive change. I will simply post pictures first, then analyze it.

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Essentially, the citadel space underneath the turrets is now completely underwater!
The current underwater citadel plate is 19mm thick, while the updated model is now 25mm thick.
The citadel plate that covers the underwater space underneath the turrets was 57mm thick, and the updated model is now 102mm thick.
The forward citadel deck armor (which is currently at waterline) was 19mm thick, and is now deeply submerged and is 57mm thick.

Zanimljivo. Možda i skinem prašinu s njega uskoro.

[BladeRy]

Novosti sa PTa (datamine). ohohoho.....bice suza. jer je CV ekonomija inace OP. Skycancer gets it again.

Additions

• Japanese tier 6 premium destroyer Shinonome and relevant modules added
• Lootbox rewards added
• Some additional ranked rewards added (probably not for this season)

Changes

Ships

• Royal Navy cruisers: further balance work
• Atago: armour model changed slightly
• Anshan: armour model changed slightly (armour in some places became slightly thinner)
• Lo Yang: armour model changed slightly (armour in some places became slightly thinner)
• Sims: armour model changed slightly (armour in some places became slightly thinner)
• Atlanta: armour model changed slightly (bow armour buffed 16mm > 19mm)
• Molotov: armour model changed slightly (net buff)
• Indianapolis: armour model changed slightly (armour got slightly thicker in some places)
• Bismarck: armour model changed slightly (net buff)
• Saipan: armour model changed slightly (armour got slightly thicker in some places)
• Blyskawica: armour model changed slightly (armour got slightly thinner in some places)
• Arizona: armour model changed slightly
• New Orleans: armour model reworked, section HP redistributed
• Mogami: torpedo ''dead zone'' decreased, 203mm turret arcs buffed (see below)

Mogami turret changes

• Turret #1: arcs buffed (145 > 150 degrees to either side)
• Turret #2: arcs buffed (130 > 149 degrees to either side), pitch dead zone decreased (20 > 13 degrees)
• Turret #3: arcs buffed (130 > 150 degrees to either side)
• Turret #4: arcs buffed (140 > 150 degrees to either side)
• Turret #5: arcs buffed (135 > 150 degrees to either side)

Shells

Costs per shell fired.

• 152mm AP Mark 35: cost decreased (15 > 10)
• 152mm HE HC Mark 34: cost decreased (15 > 10)

Torpedoes

Costs per torpedo expended.

• Mark 16 mod. 1: cost increased (300 > 700)
• Type F3: cost increased (350 > 650)
• Mark 17: cost increased (500 > 1200)

Aircraft

Costs per plane lost in battle.

• Grumman F3F: cost increased (200 > 220)
• Aichi B7A: cost increased (600 > 1200)
• F2A: cost increased (200 > 320)
• B5N2: cost increased (300 > 550)
• Vought SBU: module tier decreased (4 > 3), cost increased (200 > 320)
• D4Y: cost increased (600 > 1200)
• Grumman F6F: cost increased (350 > 550)
• J7W1-A: cost increased (600 > 1200)
• B6N: cost increased (450 > 800)
• XSB2D: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• XBTK: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• TBD: cost increased (300 > 320)
• SBD2: cost decreased (250 > 220)
• D1A2: cost decreased (250 > 220)
• B4Y: cost increased (200 > 220)
• T4M ''float'': cost increased (200 > 220)
• N1K5-A: cost increased (450 > 800)
• F4U-1A: cost increased (450 > 800)
• SB2U: cost increased (350 > 550)
• TBF: cost increased (350 > 550)
• D3A2: cost increased (350 > 550)
• A4N: cost increased (150 > 220)
• AD1: cost increased (600 > 1200)
• F4F: cost increased (200 > 220)
• D3A1: cost increased (300 > 320)
• F4F-4: cost decreased (250 > 220)
• TBY-1: cost increased (350 > 550)
• FM-2: cost decreased (250 > 220)
• SBD3: cost increased (300 > 320)
• A5M4: cost decreased (250 > 150)
• T4M: cost increased (200 > 220)
• C6N5-1b: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• J8N1: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• A7M2: cost increased (600 > 800)
• A6M5: cost increased (350 > 550)
• R2Y1: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• J5N: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• A5M2: cost increased (200 > 320)
• Wakusei: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• XSB2D: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• F2H: cost increased (800 > 1700)
• SB2C: cost increased (450 > 800)
• A6M2: cost increased (300 > 320)
• D4Y2: cost increased (450 > 800)
• F4U: cost increased (600 > 1200)
• SBD5: cost increased (350 > 550)

[T}{OR]

Yup. Nekaj su odg. služeno na EU forumu da je to samo testiranje - vjerujem kao i da je nebo ljubičasto. Još jedan nerf debilizma CV-ima...

Prvi review Belfasta, RN T7 CL:

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/inde...w-hms-belfast/

- poprilično detaljan

[BladeRy]

Da da, u sjebanoj ekonomiji CVa testiraju poskupljenje aviona i torpeda. Logika za 5.

[Gigi1]

Vjerojatno ce smanjiti repair cost za cv cim dizu cijenu aviona ili ce dati veci reward sa skidanje aviona

[T}{OR]

Flamu & Belfast ... OP:

[Lun]

Autor Gigi1

Vjerojatno ce smanjiti repair cost za cv cim dizu cijenu aviona ili ce dati veci reward sa skidanje aviona

Dobro da si editirao post

[Gigi1]

Autor Lun

Dobro da si editirao post

skuzio sam navecer da je u njemu bilo iznimno puno potencijala za nepotrebne rasprave

[Neo-ST]

Mene samo zanima koji je brod jači, NC ili Tirpitz.

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[Lun]

Autor Neo-ST

Mene samo zanima koji je brod jači, NC ili Tirpitz.

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Bismarck

[Neo-ST]

Autor Lun

Bismarck

Ne trollaj, ozbiljno pitam
Da se nađu NC i Tirpitz jedan na jedan, koji bi izvuka deblji kraj?

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[Ati freak]

Autor Neo-ST

Ne trollaj, ozbiljno pitam
Da se nađu NC i Tirpitz jedan na jedan, koji bi izvuka deblji kraj?

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Ja volim pizzu.

@Neo:
Lošiji kapetan, imo

[Neo-ST]

Autor windfucker

@Neo:
Lošiji kapetan, imo

A da su kapetani isti?

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[Ati freak]

Autor Neo-ST

A da su kapetani isti?

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Onda onaj koji koristi Afričku šljivu.

[Lun]

Autor Neo-ST

A da su kapetani isti?

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Ovisi o konfiguraciji na kojoj igraju.

[T}{OR]

Bez trolanja, od nekoga tko je ekšuli proučavao oklop i ima iskustvo igranja sva tri:

Honestly this "better armor protection" of germans is a myth. They cant be citadelled (well most of the time), true. But thats all. If they face another BB, they hardly have advantage there. Angled NC is basically impregnable to german 380mm, same for Amagi. On other hand Germans take tons of damage at every angle from 400mm shells (they take a lot less from each other). As for the Flamu video - it showcases Amagi, which is imo a counter to german BBs.

Amagi is the opposite of german BBs. It has the stigma of "badly armored" BB, which simply isnt true.

- people used the 254 mm Belt armor as the main point in discussion. Now look at the armor viewer and you will see you have a well angled 48mm plate behind it (wont ever be overmatched so will never be ignored, but can cause bounces). 254+48 (and thats not even taking into account of the 2nd layer slope) means 302mm belt armor. NC has 305mm. Bismarck has 320 belt tapered to 160mm. There isnt a huge difference there.

- "turtleback" of germans works very well, but Amagi has basically same mechanism protecting her from FAST shells of german BBs. They simply dont plunge inside to get into citadel area, even though the roof of citadel in Amagi case is just 19mm so would be easily overmatched. Bismarck has 80mm turtleback - but both BBs are "protected" vs each other at similiar distances.

So in case of Amagi vs Bismarck, both of those BBs are pretty well protected against each other, but Amagi keeps huge advantage in firepower, not only having a lot stronger shells but 25% more of them.

It also produces somewhat interesting rock-paper-scissors among BBs at tier 8. NC is a lot less protected vs Bismarck, because it lacks that 48mm angled slope, meaning that while plunging fire into citadel is also very hard for Bismarck, it can be exploited easier (and a lot easier at higher ranges). On other hand Amagi is very vulnerable to NC "suborbital" shells, that easily go over her pretty low belt armor, hit the 48 plate at very comfortable angle and go into unprotected citadel roof (19mm so easily overmatched). Finally Amagi can easily win a broadside duel with Bismarck.

[Gigi1]

@thor mogao si bar zahvaliti u chat sto smo te carryali

[T}{OR]

Autor Gigi1

@thor mogao si bar zahvaliti u chat sto smo te carryali

Tog impostera ili njemu sličnog sam već jednom riješio:



RNGnau sam prodao nakon kupnje B-Marka.

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[mitra]

Di ste ekipa odlucih danas zaigrati nakon duze stanke, vidim da se ranked bitke jos igraju pa sam odlucio malo da pokupim koju zastavicu tamo, 15 partija 80% win , dosao sam do tier 9, igrao sam samo u fubukiu - stock verziji koju sam otkljucavao pomalo

Zanimljivo kako se penje tier ocekivao sam da ce igraci biti bolji...zilaviji, ali ono bas sve suprotno....jedna riječ - balavurdija.

[T}{OR]

Autor mitra

Zanimljivo kako se penje tier ocekivao sam da ce igraci biti bolji...zilaviji, ali ono bas sve suprotno....jedna riječ - balavurdija.

Zato što je dobra ekipa već na R1. Welcome back!

EDIT: Des Moines replay od pred par dana je zaživio u obliku YT videa:

[Lun]

Evo samo za vas: Roy, Sexy i ja, hard carry, suze su prolivene

Čak smo i na streamu bili

Edit: Evo VOD sa flamu streama završio sam mu na ignore listi, sad mogu u mirovinu