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Staro 02.09.2025., 15:55   #1
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neuspio update biosa

Htio sam srediti stariji laptop za člana obitelji i prije reinstalacije os-a updateati i bios za slučaj da će mu trebati nešto što nema na starijoj verziji...


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HP Probook 450 G3
trenutno W7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit

podaci o biosu:
N78 Ver. 01.14

odavde skinuo zadnju verziju koju mi je nudilo nakon odabira w7 i 64 bita:
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers...ook-pc/7834555

a to je:
HP Notebook System BIOS Update (N78)
Version 01.62 Rev.A
Release date May 13, 2024

instalacija prošla u redu i nedugo nakon početka dizanja sustava potpuno plav ekran i error:

*** STOP: 0x000000A5 (0X000000000001000A, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)

znači bez ikakvog teksta (na netu vidim da inače prije 0x000000A5 ide pusti tekst, a sad je bilo doslovno samo ovo gore u dva retka po sredini ekrana). ista stvar i u startup repair.

sreća pa sam kreirao recovery particiju i backupirao stariju verziju biosa što mi je nudilo na početku instalacije pa sam ga sad jednostavno downgradeao opet na sačuvanu 1.14 verziju i tu se os digne normalno.


nekakva ideja u čemu bi mogao biti problem i kako ga najjednostavnije riješiti?


net na brzinu za ovaj error kaže neusklađenost verzije os-a i verzije biosa, pitam se onda zašto mi je tu verziju službena stranica dala nakon odabira w7 i 64 bita (možda je u updateu samo do SP1 problem).


kužim da rješenje možda može biti na način da stavim najprije novi ssd i ramove (kako je planirano) i w10 pa nakon toga idem updateat bios al volio bi znati u čemu je sad ovaj problem
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Staro 02.09.2025., 16:45   #2
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Ako sve radi sa starim biosom onda ostavi sve kako je. Ne cackaj mecku ako nema potrebe 😉
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odavde skinuo zadnju verziju koju mi je nudilo nakon odabira w7 i 64 bita:
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers...ook-pc/7834555

Ako postoji mogućnost skidanja BIOS updatea u obliku ISO filea pa podizanje kompa sa USB sticka na koji je upisan taj ISO to je poželjnije nego instalacija iz operativnog sustava.


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Ako sve radi sa starim biosom onda ostavi sve kako je. Ne cackaj mecku ako nema potrebe ��
To je kao da instaliraš Windowse ili Linux pa ako rade dobro nikad više ne instaliraš nijedan update.
BIOS update često rješava sigurnosne probleme za koje ne znaš za postoje i poboljšava kompatibilnost sa hardverom tako da je poželjno dići BIOS na noviju verziju ako je raspoloživa.
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Staro 02.09.2025., 17:39   #4
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Secure boot/UEFI boot je možda po defaultu uključen u novoj verziji bios-a?
Probaj isključit, al nebih se s tim zamarao.
Flashiraj najnoviji bios, reset to defaults i onda instaliraj W10 LTSC IOT pa će član obitelji bit miran do 2032.
Ili ova opcija iz moga sig-a.
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Staro 02.09.2025., 18:44   #5
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To je kao da instaliraš Windowse ili Linux pa ako rade dobro nikad više ne instaliraš nijedan update.
BIOS update često rješava sigurnosne probleme za koje ne znaš za postoje i poboljšava kompatibilnost sa hardverom tako da je poželjno dići BIOS na noviju verziju ako je raspoloživa.
Bravo kolumbo 🤣

Salu na stranu, sve stoji sto si rekao, ali ako je veca sansa da se opet zbricka onda bolje da ne pokusava opet s time.
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Nekada je vrijedilo pravilo da se BIOS ne dira ako komp funkcionira OK. To je staro zlatno pravilo i vrijedilo je u doba kada je update BIOSa bio relativno riskantna operacija. Kako je ovo stariji hardware i kako kaže kolega Cuky, ne diraj BIOS.

Inače, generalni savjet kod tj. nakon update BIOSa je da se napravi factory reset BIOS postavki tako da budeš siguran da si na nuli.

Koliko imaš RAMa na tom laptopu? W10 potrebuje osjetno više nego W7.
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Ok, necu ga dirat onda, bar dok ne dignem w10, ako i tada. U biti nebi ga ni sad dirao nego mi vrag nije dao mira jer sam popodne na starom sestrinom lenovu isao updateat bios nebi li se nekim cudom pojavio wol na njemu al nista. Pa onda usput rekoh idem i ovog updateat

Gore je sad 1tb hdd i 4gb ddr3. Proc i5. Dodat cu mu jos 4gb ddr3 sa istom frekvencijom i latencijom da ima dual i stavit umjesto hdda ssd samsung od 500gb. Ssd i ram sam nabavio ispod stola za 0. I onda stavit w10 na to. Mislio sam i kupovat ladicu na mjestu przilice pa joj ostavljat i taj hdd al realno joj netreba vise od 500giga, neda mi se komplicirat. Tako da ce sestra dobit ovaj stari poboljsani probook, a ja sam od njenog raspalog lenova probao napraviti neki kucni mini server za kad zatreba i bacit ga u potkrovlje da stoji na lanu al dzaba kad nema wol izgleda da ce on u smece.

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Procitaj dobro manual od lenova. Proizvodjaci u zadnje vrijeme znaju zamaskirati wol pod neke 2 opcije koje moras upalit. Sve bi trebalo bit u manualu, mora postojati nacin.
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Procitaj dobro manual od lenova. Proizvodjaci u zadnje vrijeme znaju zamaskirati wol pod neke 2 opcije koje moras upalit. Sve bi trebalo bit u manualu, mora postojati nacin.
Teško da će manual od lenova riješiti problem s HP laptopom, ali se nikad ne zna.
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Jebajiga, zna se na sta sam mislio 😁

Htio sam napisat "laptopa", al lenovo mi ostao u ustima.
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instalacija prošla u redu i nedugo nakon početka dizanja sustava potpuno plav ekran i error:

*** STOP: 0x000000A5 (0X000000000001000A, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000)

znači bez ikakvog teksta (na netu vidim da inače prije 0x000000A5 ide pusti tekst, a sad je bilo doslovno samo ovo gore u dva retka po sredini ekrana). ista stvar i u startup repair.
Meni ovo smrdi da je reflash zdefaulto neke SATA postavke u BIOSu, IDE u AHCI ili obrnuto. To će generalno stiltat Windowse da krepaju kod podizanja. Možda provjerit i da nije Legacy vs UEFI boot stavka u pitanju isto mada stavljam pare na gore spomenute SATA settinge.
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