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Staro 06.09.2006., 18:43   #1
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Pasivnjak na heatpipe
..dobio plocu iz siga,chipset pece doslovce kad ga se dotakne,da li mogu na njega staviti pasivnjak sa stare ploce 440bx,da li bi to umanjilo efektivnost heat pipe hladjenja u ovom slucaju
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Staro 06.09.2006., 19:14   #2
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a cuj nije to ni cudno s obzirom na nf4 chipset...a da probas nekak ohladiti ovaj gornji dio heatpipe sustava koji pokriva mosfete? to ima vecu povrsinu disipacije, pa bi se dala spustit temperatura
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Stavi da nešt piri bolje na njega,mada ne bi se trebo toliko grijat recimo meni na abitu je bio topal al ne ono sad da se opečem....
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...pokazuje temp 41,kad sam stavio vent,spustilo se na 38 ali se prst NE moze drzati na chipsetu jer pece doslovce,nasao sam neki ogromni pasivnjak od pentiuma 266,cak ga se mislim zalijepiti sa termalnim ljepilom...mislim da ne moze odmoci ???
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ćek ti misliš lijepit pasivac na pasvac : stoopid
daj reci da se šališ?


Inaće ta ploča ima koma izvedeno hlađenje jer ne znaš ko koga grije čipset mosfete ili obrnuto...

Jedino pravilno izverdeno heatpipe hlađenje imala je Abitova AN8 serija

Samo stavi da nešto puše po tome i OK će bit
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wolv@ istina abitica je bila daleko hladnija...

joolka@Ono 41°C je sasvim ok temp. za taj čipset nemoraš se brinit...ionak će uskoro zahladit a i s time će temp. pasti...
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Ako ne može stavit prste gore daleko je to od 41°C
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Ćuj, ja znam da kada sam micao aktivca sa ove moje Asusice da sam naišao na žvaku, i to gadnu...

Sad sam to sredio tako da sam metnuo 120mm u kučište koje nema bočno rupu, ali svejedno puše po chipsetu punom snagom. Zlatni zalman je ladan

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Kod mene je donedavno samo frezer64pro hladio gornji dio heatpipea i chipset je bio vruč ali ne toliko da ne mogu držati prst na njemu, everest je pokazivao 41C i tako je radilo par mjeseci sasvim stabilno. Igrom slučaja radi hlađenja SLIa stavio sam 120mm vent koji usput lagano pirka i preko chipseta koji je sad na dodir mlak a everest pokazuje 36C... (i ovo sve ljetne temperature na sobnoj od 27C)
Inače za mene ploča je mrak, nije neki brzinski prvak (iako ima sasvim dovoljno opcija za clock) ali RAID, SLI, overclock - 24/7 već pola godine drži 'rock solid
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No, meni je chipset konstantno na 34-36°C. Čak i kad se zalman "zažari" i dalje je 36°C
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..nije mi da vrag mira pa san ga zalijepio,temp se spustilla na 38c s tim da sam maknuo vent,ajd ima nekog ucinka,pasivac na pasivca..jesam LOL !!! ..sad pise na northbridgu 440BX

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digla se na 40c
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al to je tak besmisleno...daj samo stavi vent da puse po tome i gotovo
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Riješio si se Soltekice samo da bi dobio pećnicu i SLI? Cccc...

A vidim, "mod" nije baš previše pomogao
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nema smisla taj pasivac totalno neisplativo rađe da nešt puše....
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Riješio si se Soltekice samo da bi dobio pećnicu i SLI? Cccc...
..ko kaze....soltekica je tu ..vidim ja da ce se ovo rastopiti za koji dan skupa sa kucistem tako da sam "spreman"

...strasno kako se ovo grije,imam thermaltake-ov vent sa regulacijom brzine okretaja koji sam usmjerio na chipset i stavio na 6000rpm i svejedno se prst ne moze drzati ni sekundu...ali me najvise razocara napon na procu,stavljen u biosu na 1.4v a everst ocitava 1.45v-1.39v,strasno osciliranje napona....sramota,ovo nisam vidio ni na esc plocama,soltek je kralj stabilnosti napona za vecinu ovih razvikanih imena..ocjena ploce: -3
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To je tako jer svi vjeruju da heatpipe znači bolje hlađenje jer gledaju CPU hladnjake a taj hetpipe sistem na moboima je obična glupost...

Heatpipe NE SMANJUJE RADNU TEMPERATURU hladnjaka on samo ubrzano odvodi na drugo mjesto, ali kolka će ta temperatura biti u konačnoj vrjednosti (tj na kolko će stupnjeva radit sustav) i dalje će ovisiti o tome kolka je površina radijatora na drugom kraju i ventilacija preko istog... : wtf :

Osim ako se posebni materijali rabe ali ja nisam vidio da ih iko od obo proizvođača koristi prema tome...

Zato sam i ja odustao od onog thermalright-a ili nabavke nekakvog SOTESA ili sličnog rj za svoju ploču jer sam kad sam dobro pogledao vidio da je površina ovog zalmana ista ako ne i veća od onog radijatora na SOTESU samo je tamo isti iza na maski...

Ja sam se osigurao da imam dobar protok preko zalmana i da je dobro namazan i stegnut na čipset i nek radi tamo na kolko oće stupnjeva... :burn:

Jednako će hladit kao i sotes ako se osigura dovoljan protok...
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Ma daj ne fantazirajte... Imam istu ploču i čak i sa freezerom (smanjenim na 7V) koji hladi gornji dio na chipsetu mogu držati prst bez bilo kakvog dodatnog hlađenja a sa 120mm ventom (na 600rpm !!!) koji puše po donjem dijelu chipset je MLAK...
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I can speak at length with educated people about
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I am capable of conversing with you
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there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
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He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
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But The Geek Wants Out.

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He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
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is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
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I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
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Ma daj ne fantazirajte... Imam istu ploču i čak i sa freezerom (smanjenim na 7V) koji hladi gornji dio na chipsetu mogu držati prst bez bilo kakvog dodatnog hlađenja a sa 120mm ventom (na 600rpm !!!) koji puše po donjem dijelu chipset je MLAK...
I ja na svojoj isto...

Jedno 55C ima stvarnih u full loadu (mjerio sam sa laboratorijskim termometrom - kad sam na brzinu ugasio kantu i stavio gore sondu bilo je nekih 50C - sim tamo stupanj-dva a više od 5C se nije ohladio za 20s bez ventilatora....)

Mjerio sam 10ak puta i to je to, a vani je bilo 35C u hladu... :s
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Ma daj ne fantazirajte... Imam istu ploču i čak i sa freezerom (smanjenim na 7V) koji hladi gornji dio na chipsetu mogu držati prst bez bilo kakvog dodatnog hlađenja a sa 120mm ventom (na 600rpm !!!) koji puše po donjem dijelu chipset je MLAK...
Je, sa 120mm se može fino ohladiti. I moj je sad ledenjara (moj se vrti na 1000rpm-a). Ali bez venta nema šanse. Sjećam se na Chaintekici, isto NF4 - plavi zalman + 80mm vent na 7V pored njega a on kipuć, ali doslovno je gorio...

Uglavnom, ako se može, neka se bočno stavi 120mm, makar ne imao rupu na kučištu. Gurne ga se unutra (da mu bočna ne spriječi uzimanje zraka). To će ohladiti chipset...
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meni sa zujalicom temp skakala do 42, kupio plavog zalmana a sada je 2-3 stupnja manje, prebacio 80mm vent od hdd-a da puse po njemu da vidim kako radi, spusti ga jos 2 stupnja...

e sada... ni u jednoj kombinacij se bas ne moze drzati prst na njemu, mozda malo duze kada puse vent...sve u svemu zari i pali pa ako krepa jbg.. (epox npa+) nema spasa za taj nforce4...
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zaboravih reci da je protok u kucistu skroz ok... kad ga otvorim temp odmah skace kojih 3-4 stupnja
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e sada... ni u jednoj kombinacij se bas ne moze drzati prst na njemu, mozda malo duze kada puse vent...sve u svemu zari i pali pa ako krepa jbg.. (epox npa+) nema spasa za taj nforce4...
Ma neće krepati sve je to isto kao ove zujalice na čipsetima što se kreanja temperatura tiče...
Nebi ih ni izdali proizvođači da ih nisu testirali...

Mada je zanimljivo da nigdje nisam uspio naći koji je temperaturni raspon za nforce4 očito u nvidii to čuvaju ko zmija noge...
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Mada je zanimljivo da nigdje nisam uspio naći koji je temperaturni raspon za nforce4 očito u nvidii to čuvaju ko zmija noge...


..sram ih priznati ..u firmi imam abit nv8 sa n-force 3 chipsetom,pasivni hladnjak tvornicki,isto zari kad ga se dotakne ali radi tako vec godinu dana 24/7..valjda ta toplina nesmeta toliko u radu ???
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NF3 se manje grije...i to mislim dosta...
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Staro 08.09.2006., 02:56   #25
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Ma daj ne fantazirajte... Imam istu ploču i čak i sa freezerom (smanjenim na 7V) koji hladi gornji dio na chipsetu mogu držati prst bez bilo kakvog dodatnog hlađenja a sa 120mm ventom (na 600rpm !!!) koji puše po donjem dijelu chipset je MLAK...

..ajd onda objasni kako tebi mlak i pokazuje oko 40c a ja sekunde nemogu drzati prst na njemu i isto pokazuje 40c ???
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Staro 08.09.2006., 13:35   #26
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joolka vrlo jednostavno....tebi krivo pokazuje (ili imaš jaaaako osjetljive prsteke )

Vidiš pros temp tjela je oko 36°C dakle ti bi 40°C osjetio tek kao lagano toplo tijelo

ja osobno sad imam grafu na 45°C i kad primim VF900 osjetim ugodno grijanje a ne prženje... tako da je tebi onda temp prije oko 60°C
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...prije bi rekao 80c
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pa jesi probao skinit žvaku što se nalazi ispod heatpipea?
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