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Staro 05.06.2006., 12:24   #1
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Kupnja LCD - dilema 19" ili 20" widescreen

Kupujem LCD, no obzirom da je to dugotrajnija investicija molim vas za vase savjete i komentare.
Buduci da komp koristim u principu za sve - photoshop, filmovi, surf, TV (DVB-T kartica), igre, ne znam sto je bolje uzeti 19" ili 20" widescreen.

Nasao sam par zanimljivih modela, pa me zanimaju vasa misljenja

1. Belinea 10 20 35W
2. Samsung 970P
3. NEC MultiSync 20" 20WGX2
4. Samsung 193P+

limit 5000kn
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Staro 05.06.2006., 14:09   #2
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Toga neca ili pričekaj malo pa uzmi u vranoge1 della 2007WFP koji će poslije 15.6 prodavati modele bez banding problema.

Ako je strka onda NECa.

Zanima me šta će drago7 predložiti??
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Staro 05.06.2006., 14:12   #3
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Toliko se o tome pisalo zadnjih dana - samo treba malo POTRAŽITI po forumu ...

@drago7 - daj reci čovjeku koji je najbolji monitor
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by Ernest Cline


At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 14:24   #4
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Taj čovjek je doktorirao LCD-e...
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Staro 05.06.2006., 14:29   #5
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Nemojte se zafrkavati. Sad će "drago7". Samo što nije. Ili spava ili radi.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 14:55   #6
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Evo dok čekamo, podsjetimo se samo nekih legendarnih izjava doktora Drage7 :
Citiraj:
-najbolji izbor jeste neki brži model od 19" i to Samsung
-jedina mana koju sam primjetio je ta da monitor nije od 30", šalu na stranu
-nisam ni slutio da lcd može bit toliko dobar
-dok god su svi zadovoljni Samsungom, nema se tu što za nerazumit.
-u potpunosti se slažem, nedavno sam kupio prvi LCD i to Samsung 970p, nikad nisam ni pomislio da LCD može bit tako dobar, ma nije mi žao ni jedne kune koja je otišla na monitor.
-najpametnije je da uzmeš neki vrhunski 19" LCD, primjerice ja sam danas uzo samsung 970p
-ja sam sa 970p zadovoljan, a osim toga imaš i Zero pixel waranty, dakle nemaš brige oko bad pixela
-i na kraju ja sam ponosni vlasnik Samsunga 970p koji je jedan od najboljih monitora od 19"
Kad čovjek malo bolje promisli tu dileme nema, svi već znamo odgovor na vječno pitanje 'Koji je LCD najbolji ?' : roller :
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by Ernest Cline


At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 15:42   #7
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ajd sad lakše malo....zahebavamo ga na Links forumu pa sad i tu...
kaj ćeš kad čovjek voli svoj hardware!


inače ja bi čekao Dell-a ili probao nać 2005 model

EDIT:

2005FPW navodno imaju u M-comp za 4850kn
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Staro 05.06.2006., 15:44   #8
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O.T. Al ove crtice su mi totalno guba! :clap: Dođe mi da ja počnem tako pisati...NOT!
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Staro 05.06.2006., 17:24   #9
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-ma nemojte zezat čovjeka
-on voli svoj monitor, isto ko i ja svoj procesor
-voli pisati minusiće
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Ako imaš love ideš na 20`` i na Philipsa ili Della,a ako ne 940BF je tvoj izbor ili:
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Staro 05.06.2006., 19:06   #10
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wolverine koliko je to sigurno jer nekako mi se neda čekat na 2007icu.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 19:19   #11
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što? 2005?
pa odi i nazovi ekipu

baci potragu na nabava.net
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Staro 05.06.2006., 20:38   #12
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dobijem cifricu od 5900 kunića.

Valjda ti se jedna tisućica omakla.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 21:04   #13
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hebemu ja gledo netto cifru....
da fakat 5900 je a to je previše
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Staro 05.06.2006., 22:40   #14
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Uzmi svakako 20" NEC-a widescreen.Nije ti velika razlika u cijeni između Samsunga 970p i NEC-a.
Jedina mana je da za gejming na 20" ti treba solidna grafička kartica iz gornje klase.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 22:54   #15
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ta mana obično prati velike monitore.
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Staro 05.06.2006., 22:57   #16
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DELL

Cekaj vranogu da nabavi.... Samo moje misljenje

-Drago javi se
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Staro 05.06.2006., 22:58   #17
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-evo napisat cu ja umjesto drage7
-uzeo ja Samsung 970P, nisam mogo vjerovat koliko dobar moze bit LCD
-najbolje je uzet 19", najbolji izbor je 970P, on ti je vrhunski, boljeg nema

Napisano u njegovom stilu
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Staro 06.06.2006., 00:54   #18
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-nemojte se zafrkavati sa dragom7
-ovo je ozbiljan forum
-savjetujte čovjeka
-ja bih uzeo 960BG, iako imam 940BF
-drago kaže da je 970p bolji

-pozdrav

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Staro 06.06.2006., 01:47   #19
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-gle ti ovo, pa ja sam ovdje na forumu popularniji, neg Brad Pitt u Nambiji
-nemojte tako, budem se umislio, evo vec umišljam, ja sam idol za ovaj šljam
-lijepo mi sanjajte, u snove uplovite i jedan Samsung 970p ulovite
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ja ću uploviti.....

.... i ovo uloviti:


....... nakon toga ću se probuditi i malo zaigrati na njemu.
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Ne, kupi 970P
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Staro 06.06.2006., 19:58   #22
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Uzeo sam NEC-a 20GWX2 i vrijedi svake lipe.


Pogledaj tread od prije par dana pa razmisli:

20'' wide DELL ili NEC
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Staro 06.06.2006., 20:31   #23
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Uzeo sam NEC-a 20GWX2 i vrijedi svake lipe.


Pogledaj tread od prije par dana pa razmisli:

20'' wide DELL ili NEC
-možeš li opisati kakva je slika, kut gledanja, kako se nosi sa igrama,
-dali su slova u nativnoj rezi dovoljno velika za normalno citanje itd
-napiši nešto o monitoru, zanima me kakav je NEC
-ja kad sam kupovo, nisam se mogo odlucit, ili nec ili samsung
-na kraju je pala odluka za samsung, ali me jako zanima kakav je nec
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Staro 06.06.2006., 21:22   #24
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Pa drago7 nećemo valjda opet iznova...bio si OVDJE kad se vodila rasprava - sve ti je tu pa čitaj...
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The Geek Wants OUT
by Ernest Cline


At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 06.06.2006., 21:25   #25
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Uzeo sam NEC-a 20GWX2 i vrijedi svake lipe.


Pogledaj tread od prije par dana pa razmisli:

20'' wide DELL ili NEC
cijenom su skoro isti tako da mi je svejedno. (u trgovini nec je cca 4 650 a dell u vranoge 4 800)


Dell mi je ljepši. :clap:
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-možeš li opisati kakva je slika, kut gledanja, kako se nosi sa igrama,
-dali su slova u nativnoj rezi dovoljno velika za normalno citanje itd
-napiši nešto o monitoru, zanima me kakav je NEC
-ja kad sam kupovo, nisam se mogo odlucit, ili nec ili samsung
-na kraju je pala odluka za samsung, ali me jako zanima kakav je nec
Kažem da sam osobno prezadovoljan monitorom. Kad vidiš npr. F.E.A.R. kao primjer grafičke ekstaze na ovom monitoru, sa full detaljima, ostaneš bez daha.
Koji kut gledanosti? To je gotovo prošlost na novijim modelima, slika se vidi sa svih strana. Veličina fonta je normalna na nativnoj rezi 1680x1050, jedino neke igre ne podržavaju tu rezu (ev. promjenom .ini fajla). Ghosting ne postoji, boje su intenzivne i prirodne, kontrast je izuzetan (zahvaljujući osim matrici i staklu), svjetlina žestoka...........Pa tko voli nek' izvoli.

P.S. U zadnjem PC CHIP-u je recenzija i test 20'' wide monitora.
I tu je NEC pobrao vrhnje.
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Staro 06.06.2006., 21:44   #27
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Pa drago7 nećemo valjda opet iznova...bio si OVDJE kad se vodila rasprava - sve ti je tu pa čitaj...
Hey Crni daj reci nevezano za thread kak si zadovoljan sa SLI-em i ove dvije zvijerke?
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Staro 06.06.2006., 22:26   #28
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Znam da se u početku dosta pisalo o SLI 'mušicama' ali tehnologija je definitivno sazrela, nemam zamjerke - više ne treba restart sistema za prebaciti na SLI (imam malu skriptu koja elegantno uključi SLI 'on the fly' i još usput promijeni wallpaper da znam da je uključen ), nikakvih problema sa driverima, novi profili za igre se redovno dodaju, sve igre (HL2, FEAR, COD2, GRAW, OBLIVION, TOMB RAIDER LEGEND, B&W2 ...) rade bez problema i još uvijek ih većinu mogu izvući na 1680x1050 sa full max postavkama
Ako nađeš negdje jeftino još jednu 7800GT svakako isprobaj ... i ne misli se o napajanju jer i moj sistem iz siga (+160Gb HDD +5 USB2 uređaja) radi na Coolermaster 450 W RP 24/7 bez problema. Ne bi vjerovao ali jedina igra koja mi optereti napajanje toliko da zavrti vent da se čuje je Black and White2 : stoopid
Nego baš gledam ubost 2x1024 RAM-a pa ne znam šta da uzmem...kako si ti zadovoljan sa svojim ? ... ili možda OVAKO nešto...?
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by Ernest Cline


At first glance
I probably appear to be a somewhat ordinary,
somewhat average looking fellow.
Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 07.06.2006., 03:03   #29
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Crni u kojoj banci radis ?

Daj pliz stavi jos koju sliku cijelog sistem . Da slinim jos .
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Staro 07.06.2006., 10:34   #30
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@Kurtz
imaš 7800GT za 1700kn na tržnici

@crni
ne isplati ti se baš taj Corsair
radije value uzmi....

no najbolje ti je pucat na UCCC (SuperTalent i Samsung u Ve-Milu) ili skuplji OCZ GoldGX XTC PC4000
Također mi se sviđa onaj Patriot koji je stigao u HR
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