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Staro 12.03.2026., 17:16   #5971
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Staro 24.03.2026., 04:07   #5972
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planiram renovaciju kuce u Puli i trazim projektnog ili glavnog izvodjaca radova koji bi mi organizirali sve potrebno jer se ja s time nemam vremena bas baviti... voditi brigu tko je kada na redu i gotov, tko ce kada doci i tko dolazi sljedeci...

Znaci kompletna renovacija unutrasnjosti, struja, zidovi, pod, grijanje, kupaona, itd.

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Staro 03.04.2026., 17:27   #5973
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Ekipa...frend mi je bacio bubu u uho da bih mogao drvenu radnu ploču za kuhinju (Ikea Karlby) zaštiti na način da premažem lakom za čamce i da je to kakti trajna zaštita onda. Jel to zbilja tak i dal je to onda sigurno za hranu (ne mislim rezat na radnoj ploči ništ)?
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Staro 03.04.2026., 17:55   #5974
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Lak za čamce je jedan od jeftinijih ali je na uljnoj bazi i smrdi dugo, bolje ti je premazati nekim kvalitetnim PU lakom tipa Caparol PU Satin/Gloss base (T) jer se brže suši, ne smrdi i možeš u jednom danu dati nekoliko ruku.
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Staro 03.04.2026., 18:02   #5975
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Staro 04.04.2026., 22:23   #5976
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Dečki...trebam feedback ako tko ima iskustva sa izolacijom kuće u zadnje vrijeme...naime dobio sam ponudu za izradu izolacije na kući (stiropor 10cm):

139 m2 X 56 Eur = 7.784,00 Eur
UKUPNO : 7.784,00 EUR.
PDV 25% : 1.946,00 EUR.
UKUPNO ZA NAPLATU : 9.730,00 EUR.

Kolega koji je prije cca godinu dana radio također izolaciju na kući kaže da je on platio 51 Euro po kvadratu za 15cm stiropor. Pošto sam još jednu ponudu dobio u tom rangu cijene nisam se previše obazirao ali jel moguće da je to ok ili da me pokušavaju oderat jer "švabo si može priuštiti"?
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Staro 04.04.2026., 23:29   #5977
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Staro 05.04.2026., 00:05   #5978
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To su te cijene, strašno je. Ali kako imaš tako malu kvadraturu?
Meni na obiteljskoj kući stric renovira stan i sad se mislimo staviti zajedno fasadu (3 kata, cca 85-90m2 kat), ponuda je bila oko 26-28k eur za sve (8-10cm) bez PDV-a.

Prije cca 3g kad sam renovirao vikendicu kvadrat je bio oko 35-40e mislim.
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Staro 05.04.2026., 06:10   #5979
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To su te cijene, strašno je. Ali kako imaš tako malu kvadraturu?
Meni na obiteljskoj kući stric renovira stan i sad se mislimo staviti zajedno fasadu (3 kata, cca 85-90m2 kat), ponuda je bila oko 26-28k eur za sve (8-10cm) bez PDV-a.

Prije cca 3g kad sam renovirao vikendicu kvadrat je bio oko 35-40e mislim.
Samo 3 strane treba oblacit. 1 zid dijelim sa susjedom.
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Staro 06.04.2026., 08:12   #5980
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Dečki...trebam feedback ako tko ima iskustva sa izolacijom kuće u zadnje vrijeme...naime dobio sam ponudu za izradu izolacije na kući (stiropor 10cm):

139 m2 X 56 Eur = 7.784,00 Eur
UKUPNO : 7.784,00 EUR.
PDV 25% : 1.946,00 EUR.
UKUPNO ZA NAPLATU : 9.730,00 EUR.

Kolega koji je prije cca godinu dana radio također izolaciju na kući kaže da je on platio 51 Euro po kvadratu za 15cm stiropor. Pošto sam još jednu ponudu dobio u tom rangu cijene nisam se previše obazirao ali jel moguće da je to ok ili da me pokušavaju oderat jer "švabo si može priuštiti"?
Jedino gdje možeš uštedjeti je pdv . Sve zavisi tko ti radi i jesi li veliki legalist ,npr ko večina naših političara

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Staro 06.04.2026., 12:35   #5981
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50 eura po kvadratu je danas neka srednja cijena, ali sa pdv-om.

ovdje netko nabija pdv dodatno kako bi sakrio pravu cijenu naplate po kvadratu.

i te cijene bez pdv su mi jedna od najvećih debilana ikada u povijesti svemira.
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Staro 06.04.2026., 14:17   #5982
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50 eura po kvadratu je danas neka srednja cijena, ali sa pdv-om.

ovdje netko nabija pdv dodatno kako bi sakrio pravu cijenu naplate po kvadratu.

i te cijene bez pdv su mi jedna od najvećih debilana ikada u povijesti svemira.
Zato jer puno njih rade na crno, inače nerijetko je cijena i 60 eura po kvadratu i više, doduše razlika je i u onome što se želi i tko radi. Meni je majstor izračunao za 340 m2 cifru oko 16000 eura, 12 cm bijeli stiropor.
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Staro 07.04.2026., 16:01   #5983
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Drugi govori o poreznoj osnovici -*predlažu da to ne bude površina nego vrijednost nekretnine. OECD zna da će biti građana*koji takav porez neće moći plaćati. Kaže da će obiteljima s niskim prihodima plaćanje takvog poreza na nekretnine predstavljati zapreku te treba razmotriti plaćanje poreza u obrocima ili odgodu plaćanja poreza, sve dok se stan ne proda ili naslijedi.

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Njihov prvi savjet glasi -*uvedite*porez na sve nekretnine u zemlji, na one u kojima se živi i one koje su prazne.

Drugi govori o poreznoj osnovici -*predlažu da to ne bude površina nego vrijednost nekretnine. OECD zna da će biti građana*koji takav porez neće moći plaćati. Kaže da će obiteljima s niskim prihodima plaćanje takvog poreza na nekretnine predstavljati zapreku te treba razmotriti plaćanje poreza u obrocima ili odgodu plaćanja poreza, sve dok se stan ne proda ili naslijedi.

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Nah, jedino na ustaše i partizane se ovaj narod loži....
Kritična masa je ionako potkupljena jer radi za državu i povezana društva.
A i hrvatski jal je nemjerljiv u smislu, neka plaćam ja, al susjed plaća za 5 stanova.

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Staro 07.04.2026., 22:09   #5987
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Mene tješi što je 2/3 života iza mene. Jedino mi je žao kaj se nisam rodio barem deset godina ranije
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Staro 08.04.2026., 09:46   #5988
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Poz,

planiram renovaciju kuce u Puli i trazim projektnog ili glavnog izvodjaca radova koji bi mi organizirali sve potrebno jer se ja s time nemam vremena bas baviti... voditi brigu tko je kada na redu i gotov, tko ce kada doci i tko dolazi sljedeci...

Znaci kompletna renovacija unutrasnjosti, struja, zidovi, pod, grijanje, kupaona, itd.

Ima tko kakva iskustva i preporuku za Pulu i okolicu?

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Nemoj to tako raditi. Em ćeš masno platit sve skupa, em to nitko drugi neće pregledati i voditi računa o tome kao ti sam za sebe.

U ovom slučaju "brigo moja pređi na drugoga" bi ti se mogla obiti o glavu, jedino ako te BK i samo želiš prodat što prije.
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Staro 08.04.2026., 10:36   #5989
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Nah, jedino na ustaše i partizane se ovaj narod loži....
Kritična masa je ionako potkupljena jer radi za državu i povezana društva.
A i hrvatski jal je nemjerljiv u smislu, neka plaćam ja, al susjed plaća za 5 stanova.

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Kod nas svašta može proći ali da ti netko oporezuje nekretninu u kojoj živiš, teško. Nama balkanjerosima je dom svetinja (bar većini), nije to kao na zapadu Europe ili, nedajbože, SAD-u, gdje se covjek rodi negdje pa svako tri godine seli do kraja života.
Ako bi ovo prošlo bez težih posljedica (prosvjedi, ustanci, bune) onda i ne zaslužujemo ništa bolje.
Oporezivanje viška nekretnina je druga priča, to je neizbježno.
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Oporezivanje viška nekretnina je druga priča, to je neizbježno.
Daj objasni mi molim te, kad djetetu od 4 godine, kako je neizbježno?
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Staro 08.04.2026., 20:39   #5991
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Neizbježno jer u pravilu većina ljudi nema ništa svoje viška i oni su “za” oporezivanje jer ne kaci direktno njih. Balkan jeli, mentalitet je takav.
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Daj objasni mi molim te, kad djetetu od 4 godine, kako je neizbježno?
Šta se pjeniš, jel Hrvatska već uvela takav porez ?

Država računa ako imaš love za 2+ nekretnine a živiš samo u jednoj onda imaš love i za platiti porez. A to znači još novca u državnoj kasi da vladajući mogu pronevjeriti.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 08.04.2026., 20:52   #5994
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U biti isto kao u komunizmu osim sto ne brane imati nekretninu ali ti dovoljno zagorčaju život da imaš samo jednu. A prijedlog ide da bude gore nego u komunizmu zbog kojeg se ratovalo kod nas i poginulo gro ljudi. Ovo je cak i gore jer ako nemas sredstva moras se rijesiti i te jedne i zivjeti na ulici kao na zapadu
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Njihov prvi savjet glasi - uvedite porez na sve nekretnine u zemlji, na one u kojima se živi i one koje su prazne.
Ja ne vidim u tom tekstu da se radi razlika izmedu onih koji imaju vise od jedne nekretnine i onih koji nemaju.
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Ja ne vidim u tom tekstu da se radi razlika izmedu onih koji imaju vise od jedne nekretnine i onih koji nemaju.
To je navodno prijedlog ekipe sa Trulog Zapada™. No, to ne znači da bi se vladajući usudili navedeno implementirati, kao što rekoh. Drugu+ nekretninu jesu, doduše kroz izmjenu postojećeg zakona o porezu na kuće za odmor, gdje su dopustili lokalnim zajednicama dodatno dizanje postotka oporezivanja.
Za prvu bi riskirali da izgube i one najvjernije birače.
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Bila je halabuka i oko PNN pa gdje smo sad? Mene samo smeta to što su ljudi toliko retardirani da ne mogu vidjeti niti ono što je na pola prsta udaljeno od nosa. Pojavi se neki plaćeni degenerik u medijima, stručnjak svjetske klase, objašnjava kako se nešto mora, kako to zahtijevaju ovi ili oni, kako smo mi to nešto tobože prihvatili pa sad se mora, šta da se radi. Klimači u medijima samo klimaju i savršeno izvode svoje uloge korisnih idiota, a krajnji cilj je jasan kao dan: kako bude prolazilo vrijeme, nekretnine će biti prepisivane na lokalne vlasti i državu.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Bila je halabuka i oko PNN pa gdje smo sad? Mene samo smeta to što su ljudi toliko retardirani da ne mogu vidjeti niti ono što je na pola prsta udaljeno od nosa. Pojavi se neki plaćeni degenerik u medijima, stručnjak svjetske klase, objašnjava kako se nešto mora, kako to zahtijevaju ovi ili oni, kako smo mi to nešto tobože prihvatili pa sad se mora, šta da se radi. Klimači u medijima samo klimaju i savršeno izvode svoje uloge korisnih idiota, a krajnji cilj je jasan kao dan: kako bude prolazilo vrijeme, nekretnine će biti prepisivane na lokalne vlasti i državu.

Ne, krivo misliš.
Država je glupa i nesposobna za tako nešto.
Nekretnine će završiti u rukama ljudi koji imaju novce, i ti de facto neces moci finacijski sebi priuštiti kupiti nekretninu, nego ćeš rentati čitav život.
Priča mi prijatelj da je najveći dio tržišta nekretnina u Zürich maltene u vlasništvu 4-5 obitelji koji upravljaju tim nekretninama kroz svoje tvrtke.




Najviše ovisi o tome koliko će novca godišnje taj porez iznositi.
Ako je to tipa do 2-3k eura godišnje, lokalno stanovništvo će to moći plaćati.
Ako bude više od toga, sljedi rasprodaja.




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To je navodno prijedlog ekipe sa Trulog Zapada™. No, to ne znači da bi se vladajući usudili navedeno implementirati, kao što rekoh. Drugu+ nekretninu jesu, doduše kroz izmjenu postojećeg zakona o porezu na kuće za odmor, gdje su dopustili lokalnim zajednicama dodatno dizanje postotka oporezivanja.
Za prvu bi riskirali da izgube i one najvjernije birače.

Opet mislim da krivo misliš.
Najvjerniji birači su uhljebljeni na državnoj sisi. Po projekcijama iz 2019 ili 2020 (prije COVIDA), demografi su izračunali da raspad proračuna slijedi između 2028-2030 jer će broj umirovljenika nadmašiti broj radnika.
Pri tome se nije vodilo računa o inflaciji nakon covida, činjenici da je država podignula plaće u državnom sektoru preko 30 %, i da država zapošljava svakim danom nove ljude.
Plaće u privatnom sektoru nisu rasle ni približno blizu tome.
Kada im se pojasni il će doći porez na sve nekretnine, ili idući mjesec nema plaća uhljebići će to brzo progutati.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Ti uspoređuješ Zurich sa Hrvatskom općom vukojebinom?

Ne brini se, sve što je u interesu kapitala i zarade se jako brzo preslika i na truli Balkan.
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