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Staro 17.03.2026., 21:01   #481
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Au bogati, morat će Sam Altman malo pojačati vidljivost u medijima. Ako pukne balon, ode sav hype u tri lijepe materine.
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Staro 18.03.2026., 11:26   #482
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Poz ekipa, imam laptop koji vidite na mom profilu. Laptop ima dvije pločice RAMa od 4GB, jedna je integrirana druga je zamjenjiva. Planiram uzeti jednu od 16GB i zamjeniti s ovom jednom od 4GB.

Što biste preporučili? 16GB DDR4 3200 SODIMM?
U obzir dolazi i nešto polovno, znam da ih ima po 100-200€ al nedam tolko.
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Staro 18.03.2026., 13:30   #483
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Teško da budeš našao polovnih 16GB za 30€ kak je to prije bilo. Opcija ti je ako ti nije neophodno pričekati ili uzeti najjeftinijih 16GB koje nađeš. Nebitan je brand.
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Staro 18.03.2026., 14:23   #484
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Gledam, ispod 130€ gotovo da nema pločice. Ne razumijem, nekad se to dalo naći za 400kn?
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Staro 18.03.2026., 14:31   #485
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Mafija (1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5) je odradila svoje i u svega par mjeseci cijela stvar se otela van kontrole.
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Staro 18.03.2026., 14:31   #486
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Nemogu vjerovati da neko jos nezna za ram-apocalipse haha
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Staro 25.03.2026., 08:40   #487
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Ajde kreće vj nabolje sada kada je openAI najavio gašenje Sore što je odlična vijest, i veliki poraz za AI slop.
Treba vj samo izdurat ovu godinu i onda ide reset slijedeće. ALI, siguran sam da RAM i NAND više nikada neće bit jeftini kao što su bili do prošle godine, ali neće biti ni ove nenormalne cijene.
Isto kao i sa grafama, jednom kada vide koliko su ljudi spremni platiti, ili nisu...nema nazad.
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Staro 25.03.2026., 13:33   #488
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jednom kada vide koliko su ljudi spremni platiti, ili nisu...nema nazad.
Nije bas za usporedbu sa grafama, gfafa fizicki nije bilo, rama ima... no pogledaj nas podforum konfiguracije. Zamrle teme, jedna do 2 konfe mjesecno mozda. Ljudi 10 ako ne i vise puta manje kupuju konfe ili ram. Vecina visi na AM4 ili 12th Intelu i odgadja prelazak na AM5. Kad i ako ram padne na ~200€ za 32GB to mozda bude ljudima prihvatljivo. DDR4 ce se srokati dolje najvise kad DDR5 cijenovno bude prihvatljiv jer sam DDR4 vise nece biti alternativa.
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Staro 25.03.2026., 13:59   #489
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Nije bas za usporedbu sa grafama, gfafa fizicki nije bilo, rama ima... no pogledaj nas podforum konfiguracije. Zamrle teme, jedna do 2 konfe mjesecno mozda. Ljudi 10 ako ne i vise puta manje kupuju konfe ili ram. Vecina visi na AM4 ili 12th Intelu i odgadja prelazak na AM5. Kad i ako ram padne na ~200€ za 32GB to mozda bude ljudima prihvatljivo. DDR4 ce se srokati dolje najvise kad DDR5 cijenovno bude prihvatljiv jer sam DDR4 vise nece biti alternativa.
Pa naravno da je zamro upgrade i toplo se nadam da će komplet umrijet dok cijene ne padnu jer samo tako možemo glasati novčanicima.

Ja sam prije manje od 2 g za 2x16gb 3600 cl18 dao mislim 52€, a ne ove nebuloze trenutno.
Sumnjam da će DDR4 padati ove godine, jer je tražen od strane malih kupaca dok DDR5 grabe veliki, ali samo na papiru. Čekam sada dan kad će Altman izjaviti da odustaje od svog fiktivnog zakupa 40% neproizvedenog RAM-a.
Pa da se usput i strmoglave dionice jajara kao što je micron koji je instantno ukinuo komercijalnu liniju proizvoda.
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Memorije ima, ali ta raspoloživost je više na cjenicima, tek toliko izlistana, nego zapravo i realno dostupna u konkretnom dućanu ili za kupnju putem webshopa. Primjera radi, nabava.net za DDR4 i DDR5 u klasičnom i SO-DIMM izdanju, po pitanju raspoloživosti momentalno izlista više od 500 dostupnih kitova, a onda kad se isfiltriraju stvarno dostupne količine, ispadne da svega četiri-pet dućana uistinu drži i ima taj RAM za prodati, pa kad se dodatno pošalje upit ili krene u kupnju putem webshopa, krajnji kupac je začas ograničen na 2x16GB DDR5-5600 za ~500€. Nažalost cijela industrija je odlučila da im je AI zarada važnija.
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Potencijalna ejaj zarada.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Da, pretače se iz šupljeg u prazno, dok aktivno rade čušpajz na tržištu, ali TSMC, ASML, nVidia, AMD, ARM, SK Hynix, Micron, Samsung i ostali koji konkretno osmišljaju i proizvode taj eJaJ hardver, ne budu propali nakon kaj AI napokon da svoje. Nastavili budu dalje i istovremeno se pravili Englezi uz neku novu "nazovite odmah i dobivate set noževa" reklamu.
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Staro 25.03.2026., 20:37   #493
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Srećom pa nije ova situacija (makar načelno) po ničem nova tako da se možemo pozivati na primjere iz recentne povijesti. Makar, ovakvo ludilo ipak nije viđeno do sada. Možda oni nizozemski tulipani.
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krene u kupnju putem webshopa, krajnji kupac je začas ograničen na 2x16GB DDR5-5600 za ~500€.
Nemoj uopce gledat ove nase "CRO" hostaplere. Po AT ili DE imas memorije ko kenje ispod 400€. Dobro nemaju svi nekoga tamo ko ja ali ima memorije na Amazonu pa ne vidim problem povrata itd...

Neke na Amazonu mogu kupit cak i na 5 rata bez obzira imao na kartici 1e ili cijeli iznos za memoriju no ne pada mi na pamet dat 350€ za ram. Nije tolika sila...

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CQQTR1ZV?...btag=amazon-at
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https://www.proshop.at/RAM/Corsair-V...aign=pricesite
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