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Staro 06.11.2025., 15:36   #1
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i na kraju se win/slika dignu i onda normalno radi,to se od jučer počelo javljat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9EhG7VPrqU

vadio grafičku vraćao,vadio bateriju vraćao??isto buta dvaput

je do win updjeta,drivera 577.31,što još probat,kad ulazim u bios kaže reseted bios,što još ptobat,hmhmzadnji bios dignut??

grafička je rtx 5070 windforce i napajanje iz siga,sumljam da je do njih dvoje da ploča nije počela zajebavat??13600k nema degradaciju??
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Staro 06.11.2025., 19:44   #2
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Si probao ostaviti bez baterije? Isključi, izvadi kabel od napajanja, izvadi bateriju, vrati kabel, pali. Ponekad slab napon baterije radi čudna sranja.
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Staro 06.11.2025., 20:22   #3
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stavio zadni bios isti problem možda malo prije dobijem sliku nego na videu,vadio bateriju i odspajao kabel,i starto komp bez baterije isto,još isprobavat,

prilično sam siguran da izvadim grafičku i spojim na integrušu da neće ovo radit.

sad, za sad kad se dignu win sve normalno radi onaj occt ima test za ploču?? malo ga palio na 1 min nema problema,ako se na integruši dignu win iz prve što nam to kaže da ploča zajabeva,grafička je nova ali može i ona zezat ali u win sve nromalno radi,napajanje zeza hmh.


imam pospajano jedno 10 usb-a ili više na ploču postat sliku,pcie-x usb adapter s aliexpressa sa 6 usb porta,da baš ona zeza, 2,5 inča hdd je spojen.
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Staro 06.11.2025., 20:27   #4
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Svakak probaj samo iGPU, tak da i to eliminiraš i makar 13600K nije toliko zahvaćen s degradiranjem, nažalost cijela 13th i 14th Gen serija je upitna i nema pravila.
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Staro 06.11.2025., 21:51   #5
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Svakako za troubleshooting odspoji sve USB uređaje osim miša i tipkovnice, a pogotovo taj ali express hub. Lako moguće da se nešto inicijalizira iz petog pokušaja pa otud i problemi.
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Staro 07.11.2025., 12:55   #6
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svaki put kad u bios ulazim javlja bios has been reset,vadio memorijske pločice isto,probao 1 ploćicu pa 2 jedino nisam slotove mjenjao,nemam za probat 2 opcije prvu drugu grafičku pa drugo napajanje,grafičku u drugi pci slot probat.

kad sam u win sve normalno radi, jučer komp radio od 7 do 11 i pol,još sam 2 sata igrao dying light.

probat ovo što je exy rekao,ako ja ne uspijem na servis nosit da vidim di je točno problem da li ploča počela zezat ili nešto durgo
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Staro 07.11.2025., 20:07   #7
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Pa reklo bi se da je nešto do ploče. Možda bi ti prihvatljiv workaround bio da staviš u standby umjesto da radiš shutdown.
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"bios reset"
...a da li si provjerio voltmetrom CMOS bateriju ?
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Staro 10.11.2025., 20:57   #9
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ne, ali ne pamti sat,datum da,butao i bez baterije isti problem,još je godinu dana ploča u garanciji kupljena u tonerpartneru.


preko noći jedino izvadit bateriju i odspojit napjanje,iako piše da je dosta 20 sekundi.
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Staro 10.11.2025., 22:08   #10
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Normalno ako je cmos baterija ispod 2,5V umjesto 3V da ćeš imati raznih problema sa djelomičnim gubicima podešenih stavki (sat,datum , diskovi, boot order itd.) u BIOS-u.
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Prije reklamacije svakako probaj staviti novu bateriju,
kad je budeš stavljao u ležište, ubaci je i malo zakreni,
poanta je da se ostvari dobar kontakt.
Nekada se desi iako je baterija dobra / ispravna da je kontakt u ležištu loš,
rezultat je isti, gubi postavke ...

Nakon toga odradi Load defaults > Save & Reboot > postavi datum, sat i sve bitne postavke koje si mijenjao > Save & Reboot.
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Staro 10.11.2025., 23:57   #12
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Po meni ako je računalo upaljeno (s istim rezultatom) bez baterije onda svi problemi vezani za eventualno praznu bateriju su eliminirani.
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složit ću se što je mkey reko,sad se win updejtali kad se pc restarto se odmah win digli nema no signal jedino kod paljenja od nule,još testirat.
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Veći je problem sa normalnim radom PC kad je napon cmos baterije 2,5V nego kad je baterija izvađena. Na tim graničnim naponima se gube ili stvaraju netočni podaci (brljotine) pa zato idu i notifikacije za BIOS.
Bar nabavka baterije nije problem odeš u trgovine koje drže baterije, ja sam zadnji put uzeo u Lidlu.
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Na kraju je zamjena baterije rješila problem,bila je na 0,04 V,stavio drugu 2032 duracell,za sad iz prve buta/dobije sliku,ko zna što je s praznom baterijom ploča prvo tražila za dobit sliku drugi pci slot/integrušu.
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Prazne baterije su proklete.
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opet se isto ponovilo,i opet bateriju zamjenio jučer i sad ok za kolko tjedana unaprijed ćemo vidjet,baterija bila 1V,nova 3,2V,što može tako brzo ispraznit bateriju??oko mjesec dana je baterije držala.osim što google kaže neispravna ploča,PSU itd,ima neka postavka u biosu?


po googlu hwinfo mjeri voltažu baterije,da pratim.




je normalno 2,2v ili bi moralo bit 3,2v??tj 3V.,izvadit je van pa izmjerit ponovo prije stavljanja bila 3,2V.
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Staro 18.01.2026., 22:28   #18
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Nemoj vjerovati tom šta prijavi kroz sw,
treba instrumentom provjeriti na mobo, i to kad je ugašen i kad je upaljen.
Samo pazi da ne napraviš kakav kratki spoj ...
Ako se potvrdi da je nakon mj. dana stvarno tih 2.2V, mobo je neispravna.
Možeš pretpostaviti za koliko mj. će je mobo isčućat.
Kod ispravne mobo ta baterija traje x godina.
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Staro 03.02.2026., 12:30   #19
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opet isto danas i opet mjenjana baterija instrument poakzuje 3,3 kad sam stavim na ploču sw odmah pokazuje 2,4,ko će sad ploču slat bit ćr mjesec dana bez kompa,na kraju će u servisu napravit što i ja zamjenit bateriju i reć da je ploča ispravna i poslat mi je nazad.


izvađen baterije na instrumentu pokazuje 1,8 i svaki put kad mjerim se voltaža povećava a na ploči pokazuje 0,19V,pustit ću staru bateriju i kad se ova isprazni vrati staru možda je ispravna samo je ploča prebrzo prazni,negdje drudgje je probat.
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Samo da napomenem da bi matična bez baterije trebala raditi bez ikakvih problema. Dok god ne ištekaš napajanje, postavke BIOSa se ne bi smjele izgubiti. A što sada uzrokuje te tvoje probleme, možda su te nove baterije loša ili stare?
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 03.02.2026., 22:15   #21
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