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tomek@vz · 06.07.2025., 09:06

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Ekipica, mogu reći da je OnlyOffice pravo otkriće

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Yep , čini mi se da ne potrga tolko MS Office datoteke kao Libre/Open-office.

spiderhr · 06.07.2025., 12:12

Nego tomek... Kako radi D13? To je još testna verzija.

tomek@vz · 06.07.2025., 13:02

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Nego tomek... Kako radi D13? To je još testna verzija.

Trixie sam tjerao tjedan dana. Sad sam na Sid-u

Osim sto me WLAN zezao/a nemam primjedbi. Malo po malo kao da dolazi do timeouta u otvaranju stranica. Plus imam 3 testna VM-a sa default VLAN-om (virt-manager/Cockpit/kvm/libvirt) i odjednom jedna od virtualki kao da izgubi rutu i nemože sa drugom pričat. To dvoje još moram istražit, dosad se nije tako često događalo da bi popizdio i išao istraživat. Nisam mogao steam-launcher instalirat pa sam puknuo flatpak verziju. Instalacija Nvidia drivera je - jednostavna (secure boot isključen), Optimus + Wayland kombinacija rade normalno. Sve radi kako bi se i očekivalo, nisam naletio na neke čudne bugove. Ovo s mrežom moram vidjet kaj sere kad ulovim vremena (AX211 čip). Uglavnom to je ono kad kažem da fakat nema smisla se zajebavat sa tamo nekim rubnim distrama sa slabim supportom, Debian je malo više posla možda u startu dok ne skužiš kao noob kaj instalirat da bi sve radilo kako želiš al jednom kad radi, čak je i "unstable" branch zapravo odličan desktop OS. Jedina stavka koja me živcira u odnosu na Fedoru jest što nemogu omogućiti Fractional Scaling za gnome. Lupio sam u Librewolf da skalira sve na 150% i sve 5. Za deskop aplikacije mi 2560x1440 reza čak odgovara, još nisam tolko ćorav

. Mislio sam već Fedoru opet puknut ali želim malo duže Debian koristiti i ispolirat si Ansible skripte za Debian tak da bumo vidli...

Cheesemassacre · 08.07.2025., 14:13

Prebacio sam se s Archa na Void prije nekih tjedan dana. Odličan je. Sviđa mi se package manager. Runit je jednostavan. Podsjeća me na FreeBSD.

tomek@vz · Jučer, 08:56

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The Linux kernel mitigation for Transient Scheduler Attacks was just merged to Linux Git:

"Add the mitigation logic for Transient Scheduler Attacks (TSA)

TSA are new aspeculative side channel attacks related to the execution timing of instructions under specific microarchitectural conditions. In some cases, an attacker may be able to use this timing information to infer data from other contexts, resulting in information leakage.

Add the usual controls of the mitigation and integrate it into the existing speculation bugs infrastructure in the kernel"

The new "MITIGATION_TSA" Kconfig option for Transient Scheduler Attacks mitigations adds:

"Enable mitigation for Transient Scheduler Attacks. TSA is a hardware security vulnerability on AMD CPUs which can lead to forwarding of invalid info to subsequent instructions and thus can affect their timing and thereby cause a leakage."

> Phoronix

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Two local privilege vulnerabilities in the Sudo utility for Linux were recently discovered that could result in the escalation of privileges to root, which would let attackers fully take over an enterprise system.
Companies use the Sudo command-line tool on Linux systems to execute commands as the superuser. Sudo enforces the principle of least privilege, which lets users perform administrative tasks that require elevated permissions without sharing the root password.
In a June 30 Stratascale blog, the two bugs identified were CVE-2025-32462, which had a CVSS score of 2.8; and CVE-2025-32463, a critical bug that was assigned a CVSS of 9.3.
The vulnerabilities were patched in Sudo version 1.9.17p1 released late June, following responsible disclosure April 1. Advisories have also been issued by several Linux distributions, mainly because Sudo comes installed on many of them.

> scworld

stef · Jučer, 11:00

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Prebacio sam se s Archa na Void prije nekih tjedan dana. Odličan je. Sviđa mi se package manager. Runit je jednostavan. Podsjeća me na FreeBSD.

Jel to konačno "moderni" Slackware, ili najbliže tome?

spiderhr · Jučer, 11:07

Instalirao XFCE4 na laptop. Bio je Mate ali nešto se smrzne nekontrolirano (mogu u terminal s tipkama, restartati ga i to je to).

Znam da sam na jednom drugom laptopu imao problem s Mate da kada odem na neku stranicu ode u logout, stavio Trinity DE i toga nema.

D12 je u pitanju.

Nisam išao istraživati logove.

strikoo · Jučer, 11:58

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa8nMiEoti0&t

Cheesemassacre · Jučer, 12:11

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Jel to konačno "moderni" Slackware, ili najbliže tome?

Nikad nisam koristio Slackware pa ne mogu usporediti. Po meni ima sličnosti s BSD.

Znači, binary i source package manager, jednostavni init s rc.local/rc.conf, minimalizam, nije bleeding edge, čak je i installer sličan. Uglavnom jako sam zadovoljan

tomek@vz · Jučer, 12:17

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Jel to konačno "moderni" Slackware, ili najbliže tome?

Ne. Igrao sam se jedno vrijeme sa Voidom. Kao i Alpine želi biti poseban korištenjem MUSL (hint neke aplikacije baš ne delaju kak spada ili ne delaju uopće ako nema porta) umjesto GLIBC (da postoji naravno i GLIBC verzija tamo nema tih problema) biblioteka ali moj osobni feeling je da je samo još jedna prolazna distra koja postoji samo da bude "malo" drukčija u moru sličnih alternativa. xbps mi također iz nekog razloga nije sjeo, možda je to samo u mojoj glavi ali često mi se činilo da je zdrljan na brzaka. Nema potrebe zmišljavat toplu vodu - opet. Ako tražiš zamjenu za dobar stari Slackware...radije bih se držao Alpine-a (brži i bolje se drži KISS filozofije nego Void) ili Archa (puno bolja i točnija dokumentacija). Uostalom Pat još uvijek drlja po Slackware-u iako puževim korakom

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Dule · Jučer, 14:55

Stvar kod MUSL-a je da je sporiji od glibc, nije podržan na određenom softwareu (u mom slučaju VirtualBox i Nvidia ne rade), ali ima taj BSD-ovski feel, mali je, jednostavan, mali attack surface, i većina softwarea radi ok. Za neki mali server dušu dalo.

Mario92 · Jučer, 16:35

https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p

Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan

Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42

EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install

Dule · Jučer, 16:55

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https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p

Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan

Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42

EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install

Welcome to Linux

tomek@vz · Jučer, 17:09

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https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p

Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan

Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42

EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install

Probaj ručno pa javi ishod (izvodi kao običan korisnik bez sudo):

Code:

flatpak --user remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
flatpak install flathub org.telegram.desktop
flatpak run org.telegram.desktop

kopija · Jučer, 17:27

Ima i gorih stvari na Flathubu.

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Zbogom pameti....

Mario92 · Jučer, 17:53

Code:

 5:32:25 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: clock source 41 is not valid, cannot use
 5:32:24 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 203290 ms
 5:32:20 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)
 5:32:18 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 197658 ms
 5:32:15 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)
 5:32:12 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 9: transmit queue 0 timed out 191514 ms
 5:32:10 PM pipewire: pw.node: (alsa_input.usb-Razer_Inc_Razer_Seiren_X_UC2142L01201064-00.analog-stereo-98) suspended -> error (Start error: Connection timed out)
 5:32:10 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.2: 2:1: usb_set_interface failed (-110)
 5:32:07 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 9: transmit queue 0 timed out 186394 ms
 5:32:05 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:1: cannot set freq 48000 (v2/v3): err -110
 5:32:05 PM pipewire: pw.node: (alsa_output.usb-GuangZhou_FiiO_Electronics_Co._Ltd_FiiO_K3-00.analog-stereo-61) suspended -> error (Start error: Connection timed out)
 5:32:01 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 181274 ms
 5:31:49 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: clock source 41 is not valid, cannot use
 5:31:45 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 9: transmit queue 0 timed out 164378 ms
 5:31:44 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)
 5:31:39 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 159258 ms
 5:29:16 PM kernel: usb 1-1.3.1: 1:0: usb_set_interface failed (-110)
 5:29:16 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 8: transmit queue 0 timed out 15386 ms
 5:29:06 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)
 5:29:05 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 5210 ms
 5:29:00 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)
 5:28:58 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 54209 ms
 5:28:57 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)
 5:28:53 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 49089 ms
 5:28:52 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)
 5:28:47 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 43968 ms
 5:28:46 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)
 5:28:42 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 38336 ms
 5:28:42 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)
 5:28:39 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)
 5:28:36 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 32193 ms
 5:28:34 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)
 5:28:31 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 27072 ms
 5:28:30 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)
 5:28:27 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)
 5:28:25 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 21440 ms
 5:28:21 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot disable (err = -110)
 5:28:19 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 15297 ms
 5:28:19 PM kernel: usb 2-1-port4: cannot reset (err = -110)
 5:28:14 PM kernel: hub 2-1:1.0: hub_ext_port_status failed (err = -110)
 5:28:14 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 10176 ms
 5:28:09 PM kernel: r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: Failed to read 4 bytes at 0xb430/0x0133 (-110)
 5:28:09 PM kernel: r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 15: transmit queue 0 timed out 5056 ms

E sad, to je NIC koji je u monitoru jer share-am jedan kabel na privatni i poslovni komp, koristim KVM jel. Na Winsima nikakvi problemi, ovaj setup dela pol godine, ali na Fedori 41 / 42 nula bodova.

Rješenja kaj vidim po netu vele "menjaj hardver" a to iskreno nije rešenje nego workaround. Kak primjerice troubleshootati ovo ko noob?

tomek@vz · Jučer, 18:26

R8152 modul ...gledaj dal javlja kakve firmware greške kod boota (dmesg).

Mario92 · Jučer, 19:00

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R8152 modul ...gledaj dal javlja kakve firmware greške kod boota (dmesg).

Code:

[   20.721895] usbcore: registered new device driver r8152-cfgselector
[   20.833660] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd
[   21.058236] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13
[   21.058256] usbcore: registered new interface driver r8152
[   21.112562] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0
[   24.514258] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on
[ 1528.229637] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71
[ 1528.365081] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 6
[ 1532.777666] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd
[ 1533.022244] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13
[ 1533.048589] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0
[ 1536.493350] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on
[ 1694.788996] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71
[ 1694.897762] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 11
[ 1699.338668] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 16 using xhci_hcd
[ 1699.576989] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13
[ 1699.604697] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0
[ 1703.054952] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

tomek@vz · Jučer, 20:18

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Code:

[   20.721895] usbcore: registered new device driver r8152-cfgselector
[   20.833660] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd
[   21.058236] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13
[   21.058256] usbcore: registered new interface driver r8152
[   21.112562] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0
[   24.514258] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on
[ 1528.229637] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71
[ 1528.365081] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 6
[ 1532.777666] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd
[ 1533.022244] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13
[ 1533.048589] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0
[ 1536.493350] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on
[ 1694.788996] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: Stop submitting intr, status -71
[ 1694.897762] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 11
[ 1699.338668] r8152-cfgselector 2-1.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 16 using xhci_hcd
[ 1699.576989] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 eth0: v1.12.13
[ 1699.604697] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: renamed from eth0
[ 1703.054952] r8152 2-1.4:1.0 enp3s0f0u1u4: carrier on

Nažalost kako stvari stoje, taj Realtek je na Linuxu shitshow.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198931

Osim druge mrežne koja radi na Linuxu (USB?) mi nažalost ne pada nijedna pametna trenutno...možda netko od ekipe ima nekaj pametnog za reći....

06.07.2025., 12:12	#4292
spiderhr Premium Datum registracije: Jul 2021 Lokacija: Sesvete Postovi: 974	Nego tomek... Kako radi D13? To je još testna verzija. __________________ tomek@vz: ajd nemoj \| Mali Čile SAD Češka Peru \| Windows Free

Jučer, 11:07	#4297
spiderhr Premium Datum registracije: Jul 2021 Lokacija: Sesvete Postovi: 974	Instalirao XFCE4 na laptop. Bio je Mate ali nešto se smrzne nekontrolirano (mogu u terminal s tipkama, restartati ga i to je to). Znam da sam na jednom drugom laptopu imao problem s Mate da kada odem na neku stranicu ode u logout, stavio Trinity DE i toga nema. D12 je u pitanju. Nisam išao istraživati logove. __________________ tomek@vz: ajd nemoj \| Mali Čile SAD Češka Peru \| Windows Free

Jučer, 16:35	#4302
Mario92 Omicron Alpha resident Moj komp Datum registracije: Jun 2009 Lokacija: Bistra Postovi: 5,021	https://imgur.com/a/IvfIM7p Sviđa mi kak odmah u startu imam problema ni kriv ni ružan Jedan dan stari install Fedore 42 EDIT: GNOME Software quit unexpectedly kad sam kliknul na Install __________________ 95% of the world is retarded, I'm glad I am the 10%.

08.07.2025., 14:13	#4294
Cheesemassacre Registered User Datum registracije: May 2017 Lokacija: Lepoglava Postovi: 4	Prebacio sam se s Archa na Void prije nekih tjedan dana. Odličan je. Sviđa mi se package manager. Runit je jednostavan. Podsjeća me na FreeBSD.

Jučer, 14:55	#4301
Dule Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Aug 2006 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 624	Stvar kod MUSL-a je da je sporiji od glibc, nije podržan na određenom softwareu (u mom slučaju VirtualBox i Nvidia ne rade), ali ima taj BSD-ovski feel, mali je, jednostavan, mali attack surface, i većina softwarea radi ok. Za neki mali server dušu dalo.

Jučer, 18:26	#4307
tomek@vz Premium Datum registracije: May 2006 Lokacija: München/Varaždin Postovi: 4,608	R8152 modul ...gledaj dal javlja kakve firmware greške kod boota (dmesg).