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Staro 06.03.2025., 15:33   #2371
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Ne znam, ali nejasno mi je ovo sve.
Sta sad bas svatko za sve nekretnine mora slati ovaj papir, i u onima u kojima zivi proteklih stajaznam, 50 godina?

Meni ovo isto nejasno, prva ili jedina ili uopce bilo koja nekretnina?
Jer ja imam nekretninu na sebi, ali u istoj ne zivim i nemam adresu prijavljenu na njoj.

Ali ako budu prcali, cu prebacit
Daj malo čitaj malo za promjenu: ""Prijavu podataka bitnih za oporezivanje nisu dužni podnijeti građani za nekretnine za koje se plaća komunalna naknada, kao i za nekretnine koje se iznajmljuju na temelju ugovora o najmu ili zakupu koji je prijavljen Poreznoj upravi radi plaćanja poreza na dohodak od imovine. "
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Staro 06.03.2025., 16:16   #2372
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A na koju to nekretninu se ne plaća komunalna naknada? Možda glupo pitanje, ali eto udovoljite glupanu. Naslijedili smo stan i staru kuću (potonja je prodana, hvala bogu) i na obje smo plaćali odnosno i dalje plaćamo komunalni doprinos.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 06.03.2025., 16:27   #2373
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Da i meni je ovo sa komunalnom čudno, ne može se to izbjeći kao HRT pretplata. :P
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Bilo je nešto priče o tome kako će taj porez zamijeniti komunalnu naknadu. Naravno, sve je ovo samo predigra, bude se plaćalo porez na svaki objekt, i da kamen zabiješ na svojoj zemlju budu načina našli da ti za to sjednu na vrat.


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Iz obrasca https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/HR_obr...v_gradjani.pdf :
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Pod točkom 3. RAZLOZI ZA OSLOBOĐENJE popunjava se unosom DA ako postoji oslobođenje za
sljedeće nekretnine. Ako je odgovor DA, onda je potrebno još zaokružiti jedan od ponuđenih razloga
za oslobođenje te u točki 5. Zahtjeva priložiti dokumente koji to oslobođenje i dokazuju:

- nekretnina namijenjena za stalno stanovanje - prijavljuje se nekretnina u kojoj stanuje
osoba bez prijavljenog prebivališta/boravišta te nekretnina za koju nije prijavljen ugovor o
najmu Poreznoj upravi,

- nekretnina nije podobna za stambeni prostor uslijed proglašenja prirodnih nepogoda -
prijavljuje se nekretnina koja nije podobna za stambeni prostor uslijed proglašenja
prirodnih nepogoda, pri čemu se kao dokaz dostavlja odluka nadležnog tijela o proglašenju
prirodnih nepogoda,

- onemogućena stambena namjena nekretnine - prijavljuje se nekretnina koja je npr. bez
infrastrukture, narušene statike, bez krova i sl. Potrebno je dostaviti dokaz da je
onemogućeno korištenje nekretnine za stanovanje
U obrascu se nigdje ne spominje komunalna naknada. Možda komunalna naknada i doprinos nisu ista stvar
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 06.03.2025., 17:04   #2375
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Bilo je nešto priče o tome kako će taj porez zamijeniti komunalnu naknadu. Naravno, sve je ovo samo predigra, bude se plaćalo porez na svaki objekt, i da kamen zabiješ na svojoj zemlju budu načina našli da ti za to sjednu na vrat.


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Iz obrasca https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/HR_obr..._gradjani.pdf:


U obrascu se nigdje ne spominje komunalna naknada. Možda komunalna naknada i doprinos nisu ista stvar

Ne radi ti link, iz očitih razloga

ovaj dio mi bas nije jasan:

Pod točkom 3. RAZLOZI ZA OSLOBOĐENJE popunjava se unosom DA ako postoji oslobođenje za
sljedeće nekretnine. Ako je odgovor DA, onda je potrebno još zaokružiti jedan od ponuđenih razloga
za oslobođenje te u točki 5. Zahtjeva priložiti dokumente koji to oslobođenje i dokazuju:

- nekretnina namijenjena za stalno stanovanje - prijavljuje se nekretnina u kojoj stanuje
osoba bez prijavljenog prebivališta/boravišta te nekretnina za koju nije prijavljen ugovor o
najmu Poreznoj upravi,


Imam situaciju gdje sam prijavljen u Bjelovaru u obiteljskoj kuci, posjedujem stan u Zagrebu (moja prva i jedina nekretnina) kojeg povremeno koristim jer radim u Zagrebu. Po onome sto se povlačilo po medijima moglo se zakljuciti da svi stanovi u kojima nitko nije prijavljen ili nemaju ugovor o dugoročnom najmu ce morati plaćat porez na nekretnine.

Boldano upućuje da takva situacija je osnova za oslobođenje od plaćanja poreza. Ili sam nesto krivo shvatio
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Koliko ja razumijem, to je scenarij po kojem se u nekretnini stanuje a bez da je itko prijavljen na adresi. Što je pisac time htio reći niti kako takvo nešto dokazati pojma nemam.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Da, kuzim ovo za ruševine, gdje je logika da se ne mora plaćati porez na rusevinu u kojoj nije moguc zivot tj nije moguce koristiti nekretninu za zivot.

u clanku linkano par postova iznad isto tako pise (ok, to je članak u novinama):


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Za potrebe oslobađanja plaćanja poreza na nekretnine bit će potrebno odgovoriti na pitanja je li nekretnina namijenjena za stalno stanovanje te je li nekretnina podobna za stambeni prostor uslijed proglašenja prirodnih nepogoda, ili, pak, navesti “ostale razloge” zbog kojih je onemogućena stambena namjena nekretnine, poput informacije da nema krova ili potrebnu infrastrukturu ili da joj je narušena statika, za što će biti potrebno priložiti dokaz da je onemogućeno korištenje nekretnine za stanovanje. Također, vlasnik će biti oslobođen plaćanja poreza ako je nekretnina namijenjena prodaji ili ako je nekretnina preuzeta u zamjenu za nenaplaćena potraživanja i to ako je od dana unosa u poslovne knjige ili od dana preuzimanja pa do 31. ožujka proteklo manje od šest mjeseci.


Nakon što Porezna uprava prikupi sve potrebne podatke, uslijedit će slanje prvih rješenja za naplatu ili oslobođenje od plaćanja poreza na nekretnine.
Ovo potencijalno oslobođenje na osnovu toga sto je nekretnina "na prodaju" se nigdje ne navodi u uputama za ispunjavanje "Zahtjeva za dostavu podataka u svrhu prijave/oslobođenja poreza na nekretnine" ali se to mozda moze navesti u točci 4. "Napomena"
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Što znači "namijenjena prodaji" i kako se to dokazuje? Što ako je namijenjena najmu? Retorička pitanja.
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Što znači "namijenjena prodaji" i kako se to dokazuje? Što ako je namijenjena najmu? Retorička pitanja.
Svakom normalno je jasno da je to sve skupa jako nategnuto, ovo sam izvukao iz novinskog clanka koji nije apsolutno nije nikakvo mjerilo za bilo šta.

Mislim kako bilo sta od toga dokazati (prodaju), link sa njuskala, ugovor sa agencijom?

Ja samo to onako povrsno shvatio da drzava zeli smanjiti broj praznih stanova kojih navodno ima jako puno, na način da potakne vlasnike praznih stanova da ih ili koriste ili daju u najam i tako se na trzistu pojavi vise stanova, veca ponuda= manja cijena bla bla bla.

Kako je to bilo iskomunicirano kroz medije ( koji opet ponavljam nisu nikakvo mjerilo) zaključio sam da ce svaki stan u kojem nitko ne zivi tj nitko nije prijavljen, njegov vlasnik biti duzan plaćati porez na tu "praznu" nekretninu.

Osim u slučaju da je stan u dugoročnom najmu (porezna ima ugovor i sve jasno) ili ako je nekretnina derutna/narusena statika/nesto peto pa je logično da se ne plaća porez na nekretninu koju si naslijedio pod pokojne prababe koje je u međuvremenu stradala u poplavi/potresu/požaru.

Ovako ispada da se moze na dosta drugih načina moze izbjeć plaćanje poreza na nekretnine, pa se onda postavlja pitanje čemu sve to?

EDIT: Evo cijele priče:

https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/Gradani/Stranice/Nekretnine/Porez-na-nekretnine-vodic.aspx



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Koja su izuzeća od plaćanja poreza na nekretnine?

Porez na nekretnine ne plaća se na nekretnine:

koje služe za stalno stanovanje

koje se iznajmljuju na temelju ugovora o najmu za stalno stanovanje (najmanje 10 mjeseci)

koje domaćinu određenomu prema propisu kojim se uređuje ugostiteljska djelatnost služe za stalno stanovanje

kada je onemogućena stambena namjena nekretnine (npr., nekretnina je bez infrastrukture, bez krova, narušene statike i slično)

kada se nekretnina ne može koristiti zbog prirodnih nepogoda

javne namjene i nekretnine namijenjene institucionalnom smještaju osoba

koje se u poslovnim knjigama trgovačkih društava vode kao nekretnine namijenjene prodaji ako je od dana unosa u poslovne knjige do 31. ožujka godine za koju se utvrđuje porez proteklo manje od šest mjeseci

preuzete u zamjenu za nenaplaćena potraživanja ako je od dana preuzimanja do 31. ožujka godine za koju se utvrđuje porez proteklo manje od šest mjeseci

u vlasništvu općine ili grada koje se nalaze na njihovu području

u vlasništvu osoba koje se, prema odlukama gradova odnosno općina, smatraju socijalno ugroženim građanima.Koja su izuzeća od plaćanja poreza na nekretnine?

Porez na nekretnine ne plaća se na nekretnine:

koje služe za stalno stanovanje

koje se iznajmljuju na temelju ugovora o najmu za stalno stanovanje (najmanje 10 mjeseci)

koje domaćinu određenomu prema propisu kojim se uređuje ugostiteljska djelatnost služe za stalno stanovanje

kada je onemogućena stambena namjena nekretnine (npr., nekretnina je bez infrastrukture, bez krova, narušene statike i slično)

kada se nekretnina ne može koristiti zbog prirodnih nepogoda

javne namjene i nekretnine namijenjene institucionalnom smještaju osoba

koje se u poslovnim knjigama trgovačkih društava vode kao nekretnine namijenjene prodaji ako je od dana unosa u poslovne knjige do 31. ožujka godine za koju se utvrđuje porez proteklo manje od šest mjeseci

preuzete u zamjenu za nenaplaćena potraživanja ako je od dana preuzimanja do 31. ožujka godine za koju se utvrđuje porez proteklo manje od šest mjeseci

u vlasništvu općine ili grada koje se nalaze na njihovu području

u vlasništvu osoba koje se, prema odlukama gradova odnosno općina, smatraju socijalno ugroženim građanima.
Unatoč svemu opet nije jasno definirano jel se to sve skupa odnosi na prvu i jedinu nekretninu, sta treba priložiti od dokumentacije i sl
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Staro 06.03.2025., 18:17   #2380
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A ne odnosi se na prvu i jedinu nekretninu kada se u njoj živi, prijavljen si, plaćaš komunalnu sve ostale divote koje idu sa time. Trebali su to nekako povezati sa HRT pretplatom
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Staro 06.03.2025., 18:25   #2381
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A ne odnosi se na prvu i jedinu nekretninu kada se u njoj živi, prijavljen si, plaćaš komunalnu sve ostale divote koje idu sa time. Trebali su to nekako povezati sa HRT pretplatom
Ma to je jasno, ali sta ako netko kao ja imam prvu i jedinu nekretninu, prijavljen sam sam na drugoj adresi( koje nisam vlasnik) a svoju prvu i jedinu nekretninu koristim povremeno zbog situacije da zivim u Bjelovaru a radim u Zagrebu.

konkretno sa stranica porezne uprave:

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Porez na nekretnine uveden je 1. siječnja 2025. godine kao zamjena za porez na kuće za odmor. Plaća se godišnje u iznosu od 0,60 do 8,00 eura/m​2​​ korisne površine nekretnine. Odluku o visini poreza donosi jedinica lokalne samouprave (grad/općina) na čijem se području nalazi nekretnina. ​Iznos poreza utvrđuje se ovisno o lokaciji nekretnine, a može se povećati ovisno o drugim kriterijima koji utječu na vrijednost nekretnine kao što su starost nekretnine ili prisutnost sadržaja (ali u tom slučaju ne može iznositi više od 8,00 eura/m​2).

Promjena u odnosu na porez na kuće za odmor:

porez na nekretnine obvez​an je za sve gradove i općine u iznosu najmanje 0,60 eura/m2 korisne površine nekretnine

gornji limit poreza na nekretnine povećan je na 8,00 eura/m​2 u odnosu na porez na kuće za odmor u 2024. godini koji je iznosio 5,00 eura/m2

porez na nekretnine je zajednički prihod općine/grada i županije na čijem se području nekretnina nalazi (80% prihoda pripada općini/gradu, a 20% županiji)
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Staro 06.03.2025., 19:04   #2382
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Će da plati, osim ako mu npr žena ne prebaci boravište/prebivalište na drugu adresu, pa oboje žive svaki u jednoj.

Ili da se prijavi netko drugi od rodbine, nebitno, efekt je isti.
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Staro 09.03.2025., 14:38   #2384
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Zna li netko je li moguće promijeniti boravište odlaskom u MUP koji spada pod drugi grad/županiju?
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Ja sam probao nedavno otići pa su mi rekli da ne može, samo produljenje osobne može u drugom gradu/općini/županiji. Sve ostalo u matičnom MUP-u.
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Problem s informacijama koje daju na MUPu je u tome što često baš bezobrazno lažu/muljaju/šta li.

Imam iskustvo s prijavom javnih skupova, koje je prema informacijama koje se moglo dobiti na MUPu moglo jedino i isključivo putem prijavnice, uživo. Pitali smo i preko veze na MUPu može li se ikako preko maila, kaže nema šanse. I onda kasnije skroz slučajno saznam, od nekoga tko prijavljuje skupove preko maila, kako se to može bez ikakvih problema. Ispuniš obrazac, pošalješ na mail adresu i gotovo. Takvi su nam policajci i možeš ga *ebat.

Ima ova opcija na malograđanima. Između dviju sam osobnih momentalno, pa ne mogu probati, ali čini se kako bi to trebalo biti moguće. Koliko god se oni borili protiv, neke stvari se ipak mijenjaju.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Će da platiš.
A gle, novi zakon je uzaslo lose koncipiran, niti je ista detaljno objasnjeno, reko bi klasična hrvatska posla i bilo je iluzorno očekivati nesto drugo.

Sad vazem da li da privjavlčjujem i trazim oslobođenje od poreza, ili da cekam pa ga eventualno dobijem ili nedobijem
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Po meni je najpametnije osigurati si "iznimku" i ne prijavljivati ništa. To je moj plan.
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Predao sam svu dokumentaciju u HPB 6.3, a procjena nekretnine je bila 7.3. u petak. Od onda ništa, nestrpljiv sam oko te procjene, ako ne procijene kolko mi treba, veliki planovi mi padaju u vodu.
Jel neko možda isto u procesu prelaska u HPB sa stambenim kreditom? Kolko ste čekali na sve? Vjerojatno je sad još veća gužva s obzirom na pooštrenje uvjeta kreditiranja sa 1.4. ove godine.
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Predao sam svu dokumentaciju u HPB 6.3, a procjena nekretnine je bila 7.3. u petak. Od onda ništa, nestrpljiv sam oko te procjene, ako ne procijene kolko mi treba, veliki planovi mi padaju u vodu.

Jel neko možda isto u procesu prelaska u HPB sa stambenim kreditom? Kolko ste čekali na sve? Vjerojatno je sad još veća gužva s obzirom na pooštrenje uvjeta kreditiranja sa 1.4. ove godine.
Ja sam čekao procjenu u Erste 2 mjeseca tako da...samo strpljenje i drž se
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Predao sam svu dokumentaciju u HPB 6.3, a procjena nekretnine je bila 7.3. u petak. Od onda ništa, nestrpljiv sam oko te procjene, ako ne procijene kolko mi treba, veliki planovi mi padaju u vodu.
Jel neko možda isto u procesu prelaska u HPB sa stambenim kreditom? Kolko ste čekali na sve? Vjerojatno je sad još veća gužva s obzirom na pooštrenje uvjeta kreditiranja sa 1.4. ove godine.
Gužva je.

Procjena -> Da banka riješi 2-3 tjedna se čekalo bez ovih manjih kamata, ovisno o poslovnici i ovisno o veličini banke (manji gradovi = manje kredita/procjena).

Varaždin, nekih 2-3 tjedna se čekalo, sad vjerujem da i više.

Zaba - 3 dana.
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Ja sam u PBZu i tamo sam predao zahtjev za stambeni kredit (i svu potrebnu dokumentaciju), te od predanog zahtjeva sam cekao 3 radna dana da obidju lokaciju vezano za procjenu, i tjedan kasnije (prosli tjedan) je sve stiglo u banku, i sad cekam odobrenje kredita (navodno moguce ovaj ili sljedeci tjedan).
Za sada ide sve ok, nadam se da nece biti nekih komplikacija
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Ako mi ne riješe do 1.4. to znači da spadam u ovaj stroži kriterij za odobrenje kredita? Ili to za nas ne vrijedi koji smo predali sve prije tog datuma?
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Ako mi ne riješe do 1.4. to znači da spadam u ovaj stroži kriterij za odobrenje kredita? Ili to za nas ne vrijedi koji smo predali sve prije tog datuma?
Brijem da to ovisi od kada je predan zahtjev. Nisam pitao na tvoj nacin, nego sam pitao oko akcije koja vrijedi sluzbeno do 15.04. I na to mi je bankarica rekla da imaju imperativ rijesiti/isplatiti sve ove predane zahtjeve za akcijske kredite najkasnije pocetkom 5.mjeseca.
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Ako mi ne riješe do 1.4. to znači da spadam u ovaj stroži kriterij za odobrenje kredita? Ili to za nas ne vrijedi koji smo predali sve prije tog datuma?
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Staro 19.03.2025., 14:32   #2396
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Ako mi ne riješe do 1.4. to znači da spadam u ovaj stroži kriterij za odobrenje kredita? Ili to za nas ne vrijedi koji smo predali sve prije tog datuma?
Meni su rekli da je to pomaknuto na 1.7., ali da se primjenjuju "limiti" banke bez obzira sto je rok pomaknut na 1.7.
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Meni su rekli da je to pomaknuto na 1.7., ali da se primjenjuju "limiti" banke bez obzira sto je rok pomaknut na 1.7.
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Tko nudi najniže kamate za nenamjenski kredit, a da ne moram prebacivati primanja?

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Znam da HPB ima ispod 5%, ali ne znam kako to dobiti. Nisam siguran koji su uvjeti. Pbz je blizu 6%. Zaba je preko 5%.

Ono što mogu samo dodati, kolega otišao nedugo u HPB po nenamjenski, na kraju uzeo u Zabi, ne znam zašto. Ali očito tih 4.95% ima neke cake u HPB-u.
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RBA je na 5.5% pa vjerojatno nije najjeftinija, ali kredit se digne online u par klikova preko egrađani (za dokumente) i njihove aplikacije, i ne trebaju se prebacivati primanja...
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