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Staro 04.10.2024., 21:29   #1
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(riješeno) Računalo ne boota sa dvije nove pločice memorije
Prije svega pozdrav, slabo pratim u zadnje vrijeme i totalno sam ispao iz ovog svijeta nažalost.

Nakon sigurno 4-5 godina, možda i više, odlučio sam malo obnovit komp za surfanje.

Matična je Asrock B350-ITX, stara ali služi pošto je malo kučište u pitanju, Raijintek Metis.

Na njoj sam koristio 2x4 Gb RAM Patriot Viper i procesor Ryzen 2200G

Godinama je sve radilo savršeno i danas sam ubacio nove rame i novi proc. Proc je Ryzen 5600G i memorija je Kingston Fury 2x16 Gb 3200MHz

Problem je što sa obadvije nove pločice memorije komp ne dolazi ni do biosa.

Isprobana je svaka pločica memorije da bude sama, u oba slota na MBO isprobano i tad sve radi ok. Čim stavim obje pločice odmah ne radi i komp se pali i gasi svakih cca 10-15 sec

Da li postoji nešto za podesiti? Koliko sam gledao u manualu od MBO trebala bi podržavati 32 Gb rama. Bio je zadnja verzija, P 7.40

Da li ima spasa i rješenja problemu?

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Staro 04.10.2024., 21:37   #2
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Logično bi bilo updejtati BIOS, ako nije. I napraviti jedan factory reset BIOS postavki, najbolje vađenjem baterije iz MBO dok je napajanje odspojeno, Da li si RAM nabavio u kitu?
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Memorija je kupljena kao kit 2x16Gb.

Bios je napravljen update prije par dana jer stara verzija ni ne podržava 5600G procesor.

Sve komponente sam izvadio iz kučišta i sve na novo složio, jedino nisam vadio bateriju da resetiram bios.

Mislio sam da nije Ram neispravan jedna pločica, međutim koju god pločicu stavim samu u bilo koji ram slot sve radi. Samo kad stavim obje pločice crni ekran i restart svako malo


Postoje još dvije novije beta verzije biosa, ne znam dal da pokušavam s time, al pošto je beta rađe bi izbjegavao
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Staro 04.10.2024., 21:48   #4
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Svakako resetiraj BIOS, to je praktično neophodno nakon updejta. Možeš factory reset i kroz menu napraviti, ali meni se nekako najpouzdanije pokazalo izvaditi bateriju vanka i pritisnuti power on tipku na deset sekundi. Kada to odradiš i uđeš u BIOS sistemski sat se bude vratio natrag na tvorničko vrijeme i to ti indicira da si riješio.

Moguće da RAM nije OK pa ne želi raditi kako spada u dual channel. Jedan od razloga zašto ja uvijek kupujem matične sa 4 slota
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 04.10.2024., 21:48   #5
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Možda je učitan krivi XMP profil za memoriju?
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Memorija je kupljena kao kit 2x16Gb.

Bios je napravljen update prije par dana jer stara verzija ni ne podržava 5600G procesor.

Sve komponente sam izvadio iz kučišta i sve na novo složio, jedino nisam vadio bateriju da resetiram bios.

Mislio sam da nije Ram neispravan jedna pločica, međutim koju god pločicu stavim samu u bilo koji ram slot sve radi. Samo kad stavim obje pločice crni ekran i restart svako malo


Postoje još dvije novije beta verzije biosa, ne znam dal da pokušavam s time, al pošto je beta rađe bi izbjegavao
Testiraj sa stare dvije ili neke druge dvije plocice Rama, a te dvije zajedno bi bilo dobro testirati u neki drugi PC, svakako skini Cmos (Bios) bateriju na nekoliko minuta prije testiranja, prije odspoji napajanje na prekidac i racunalo iz struje, zatim drži prekidac za paljenje par sekunda da se maticna isprazni od napona.
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Hvala svima na pomoći, idem isprobavati redom
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Staro 04.10.2024., 23:01   #8
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Napravljen clear CMOS, sve isto i dalje.


Isprobat ću još na drugom kompu kroz par dana, njega isto moram očistit i ubacit novi SSD, pa budem probao i memoriju u njemu
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Probaj ponovo staviti proces u socket, znaci izvadi ga pazljivo i ponovo ga ubaci u socket a pritom pogledaj da nije nesto od pinova slucajno savijeno...
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Probaj ponovo staviti proces u socket, znaci izvadi ga pazljivo i ponovo ga ubaci u socket a pritom pogledaj da nije nesto od pinova slucajno savijeno...

Da je do procesora nebi radilo s jednim keksom, a kolega kaže da radi.
U krajnjoj liniji probati s starim procesorom, ako su simptomi isti, izvrtiti memtest, moguće je da je jedna od pločica nevaljana.
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Cudno, inace taj Kingston radi gdje god ga ubodes.
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Da je do procesora nebi radilo s jednim keksom, a kolega kaže da radi.
U krajnjoj liniji probati s starim procesorom, ako su simptomi isti, izvrtiti memtest, moguće je da je jedna od pločica nevaljana.
Ako je mem kontroler u procesoru (neznam dali je za taj stari CPU) onda se to moze dogoditi ako procesor nema kontakt sa svim pinovima ne prepoznaje sav RAM.

Sto se tice tvoje ideja da jedna plocia nevalja procitaj da je napisao da je testirao svaku mem plocicu zasebno i svaku u oba slota i da rade, tak da ostaje misterij ako obje plocie RAMa rade pojedinacno (u oba slota) zasto nerade zajedno.

Meni je prije X godina na starom intelu bio slican slucaj tj. CPU nije prpoznavao vise od 32GB rama premda je bilo 64 GB ubodeno i bilo koja kombinaicja je radila pojedinacno ali uvijek samo 32 kad je sv eustekano.
Onda sam pogledao u socket matince i bio je jeda pin savinut (i to prema gore naopako tj. tvornicki neispravno posto je nemoguce ga saviti za 180 stupnjeva prema gore ubacivanjem CPUa u socket) i ispostavilo se da bas taj utjece na memory kontorler .
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Molim te ne spominji savijene pinove, još uvijek me pere PTSP.
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Računalo ne boota sa dvije nove pločice memorije
Ako disable XMP i sličnih profila ne pomaže onda banana.

Ja bi probao sa starim CPUom. Možda je novi defektan.
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Danas memorija isprobana u drugom kompu, intel procesor, do sad je normalno radila konfa sa dvije pločice ram.

Dok su nove pločice rama pojedinačno sve radi odlično, kad ih stavim obje nema slike ni biosa, a kamoli dalje.

Znači potpuno ista stvar kao i na prvoj konfi sa 5600g

Na B350-ITX i 5600g sam stavio dvije pločice rama iz intel konfe i sve radi najnormalnije, tako da je izgleda problem u memoriji.

Kontaktiram INSTAR u ponedjeljak pa da vidim šta će reći, tj najrađe bi mijenjao za neku drugu memoriju.

Ili odnesem konfu pa nek probaju ak imaju volje jer ja dalje ne vidim izlaza pošto je na dvije konfe ista stvar
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RAM je u banani.
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Jel to ova ploča?
Možda je problem zbog brzine kad su dvije pločice upiknute. Ako je ovaj proc u pitanju



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Staro 06.10.2024., 11:31   #18
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Ploča je ta sa linka.



Samo sa te dvije nove pločice rama ne želi raditi, kad stavim 2x4 gb koji su bili prije na ploči radi ok, i kad stavim 2x8Gb iz drugog kompa opet radi sve normalno


A novi ram ne radi kad su obje pločice ni na drugoj konfi koja je Z270 Gaming K4 i Intel 7600K.


Tak da mislim da ipak je u pitanju neki problem sa memorijom novom jer na dve konfe isti problem je malo čudno, a obje konfe sa starim pločicama rama rade najnormalnije
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Staro 06.10.2024., 11:55   #19
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Ne bi bilo prvi puta u povijesti da moduli nisu dobro upareno. Jesi li probao oba modula staviti u slotove različite boje na toj K4?
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Naravno, i u crvene i u crne slotove.

Čim dodam drugu pločicu odmah nema slike, nema biosa, tipkovnica i miš ne svijetle.
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Htio sam pitati: jesi li probao jedan modul staviti u crveni a drugi u crni slot?
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Probaj u svoju ploču staviit jedan ram pa smanjiti brzinu prema tablici, ugasi pa onda ubaci drugi ram.


Ako sam dobro prvi puta pronašao proc je Raven Ridge i prema tablici ne podržava module od 16GB. Do Pinnacle Ridge podržao bi module od 16GB.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1...x.asp#MemoryRR


A za ovu drugu ploču gdje je intel evo tablice (izaberi Vendora da selektiraš samo samo tog proizvođača, to vrijedi i za tvoju ploču)

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fata...g%20K4/#Memory
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RAM je došao u kitu. Mora raditi u dual channelu. A ne radi na dvije ploče s dva potpuno različita proca.

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Ako sam dobro prvi puta pronašao proc je Raven Ridge i prema tablici ne podržava module od 16GB. Do Pinnacle Ridge podržao bi module od 16GB.
Pises ovo jer znas ili?

Inace te tablice kod nekih modela nemaju veze s vezom. Za primjer iz tablice:


F4-4000C18Q-32GTZ
Q = quad kit = 4 keksa
32 = ukupna količina, znači 4x8GB = 32GB

Njegova mb ima samo 2 slota, koji naravno primaju 16gb kekse.

F4-3600C17Q-64GTZ = 4x16gb, nema logike za njegovu mb.

Taj njegov Kingston izgleda nije ok kad je u paru, to treba raditi, bilo AMD, bilo Intel mb, kako god, neka reklamira.
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Pises ovo jer znas ili?

Inace te tablice kod nekih modela nemaju veze s vezom. Za primjer iz tablice:


F4-4000C18Q-32GTZ
Q = quad kit = 4 keksa
32 = ukupna količina, znači 4x8GB = 32GB

Njegova mb ima samo 2 slota, koji naravno primaju 16gb kekse.

F4-3600C17Q-64GTZ = 4x16gb, nema logike za njegovu mb.

Taj njegov Kingston izgleda nije ok kad je u paru, to treba raditi, bilo AMD, bilo Intel mb, kako god, neka reklamira.

Ne znam. Za sada sam imao problem da ako je noviji proc nema slike nema ničega jer eto bio s ne podržava.

Ovo još nisam imao s memorijom pa onda zato moja pretpostavka da vjerojatno u toj kombinaciji s tom brzinom ne radi.
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Intel je namjerno limitirao količinu RAMa koju može adresirati jer ako hoćeš imati puno RAMa onda izvoli kupiti serverski CPU.

AMD to nije radio. Zato je bilo DDR2 i DDR3 modula za kupiti na kojima je pisalo FOR AMD ONLY!

Ne znam kako je s novijim platformama.
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128GB, 192GB i 256GB je sad bez problema podržano na aktualnim mainstream AMD i Intel platformama, dok HEDT na obje strane ide u terabajte.
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Htio sam pitati: jesi li probao jedan modul staviti u crveni a drugi u crni slot?

Ovako nisam isprobavao
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To ti pričam, ako je problem u tome što moduli nisu dobro upareni i ako ih na taj način "raspariš", onda bi taj drugi komp treba raditi normalno s oba modula. Takva je makar radna teorija. Imao sam jednom iskustvo gdje dva modula nisu radila upareni ali kada sam odvojio onda je bilo OK. Idealno bi bilo da za takvo što postoji opcija u biosu, ali tehnologija očito još nije dovoljno uznapredovala. A i proizvođači vjerojatno računaju da RAM ima za raditi kako spada.
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I što je na kraju bilo s ovim problemom?
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