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Staro 22.03.2023., 21:46   #5821
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Sve u svemu zanimljivo, pogtovo, ako se stvari odigraju na ovaj način.
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The situation could play out similarly to 10th gen Comet Lake vs AMD Zen 2 where the former was competitive with AMD’s offerings only to be trounced by the Zen 3 CPUs shortly after. The same source also shared that AMD Zen 5 will release before Arrow Lake (ARL-S) which is scheduled for H2 2024. In other words, if ARL-S is indeed H2 2024 and RPL-R is scheduled for Q3/Q4 2023, Intel may only be competitive with AMD for a few months before the launch of Zen 5. As a refresher, the AMD Zen 5 is rumored to enjoy up to a 30% IPC uplift in addition to other architectural improvements.
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Staro 22.03.2023., 22:12   #5822
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Digital Linear Voltage Regulator (DLVR) is an Intel technology that reportedly has the potential to reduce power consumption by up to 25%. Although the technology was present on pre-release Raptor Lake CPUs, Intel disabled it on retail hardware. Per MLID, if DLVR makes its way into RPL-R, it could give Intel some much-needed power headroom to push performance even further

25% manja potrošnja ne znači 25% viši takt,ćemo vidjet,mislim da 13900k/s neće moć iznad 6,5 ghz jer da bude 25% porat performansi na 6 ghz bi značilo 7,5 ghz takt.
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Da, DLVR je nastavak FIVR-a koji je implementiran u Haswell eri, ali ga do Skylakea više nije bilo, tak da lako moguće da Intel opet implementira takvo rješenje. 10nm desktop Ice Lake je trebal vratiti FIVR, a znamo kak je to završilo.
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Intel's Fully Integrated Voltage Regulator (FIVR) was not without it's problems though, as it increased to CPUs temperature, limiting overclockability and reduced the impact that a high end motherboard could have on overclocking, as users were stuck using Intel's power delivery system.
Mada, IMHO to i dalje ne mijenja činjenicu da Intel opet mora dodatno pogurati postojeću arhitekturu, dok ne pripreme novu, koja će po svemu sudeći kasniti za Zen 5 konkurencijom.
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Intel confirms delay in its acquisition of Tower Semiconductor
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Intel's planned purchase of Tower Semiconductor Ltd. has been pushed back by another quarter, as a regulatory decision has not been made by China's State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR). Intel announced the $5.4 billion deal in mid-February 2022, and set an estimated 12-month window for its completion. It is now one month overdue, with the first quarter of the financial year set to end next week. Intel is hopeful that it will get full regulatory approval by June 2023. In light of SAMR not budging since the suspending of its review of the Intel-Tower merger, Intel Israel has issued a response this week: ""While we continue to work to close the Tower transaction within the first quarter of 2023, the transaction may close in the first half of 2023, subject to certain regulatory approvals and customary closing conditions." Intel appointed Stuart Pann as senior vice president and general manager of Intel Foundry Services (IPS) earlier this week. It has been speculated that company's original plan would have been to place a Tower Semiconductor executive in the that leadership role, but the prospect of a delayed merger caused a change of course and Intel decided to promote from within their own ranks.
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Staro 29.03.2023., 18:20   #5824
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Novi planovi koji će se bez ikakve dvojbe obestiniti uz minimalne odgode i potencijalna otkazivanja kompletnih proizvodnih linija, jer Intel sve ovo zapravo već ima spremno.
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Intel updates Data Center roadmap: Xeons on track - Emerald in Q4'23, Sierra Forest in H1'24
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The high-level message Intel is looking to project is that the company is finally turning a corner in their critical data center business segment after some notable stumbles in 2021/2022. In the CPU space, despite the repeated Sapphire Rapids delays, Intel’s successive CPU projects remain on track, including their first all E-core Xeon processor. Meanwhile Intel’s FPGA and dedicated AI silicon (Gaudi) are similarly coming along, with new products hitting the market this year while others are taping-in. Intel is keen to show investors that they’re shipping the superior silicon, especially as AMD has the advantage in terms of core counts. So expect Intel to focus on things like their AI accelerator blocks, as well as comparisons that pitch an equal number of Sapphire Rapids (Golden Cove) and Geona (Zen 4) CPU cores against each other.

According to Intel, Emerald Rapids chips are already sampling to customers. At the same time, volume validation is already underway as well. As Emerald Rapids is a relatively straightforward successor to Sapphire Rapids, Intel is looking to avoid the long validation period that Sapphire Rapids required, which will be critical for making up for lost time and getting the next Xeon parts out by the end of this year. Customers will be able to swap out Sapphire for Emerald in their existing designs, allowing for easy upgrades of already-deployed systems, or in the case of OEMs, quickly bringing Emerald Rapids systems to the market.

Granite Rapids remains on track for its previously announced 2024 launch. The part is expected to launch “closely following” Sierra Forest, Intel’s first E-core Xeon processor, which is due in H1’24. Despite being at least a year out, Granite Forest is already to the point where the first stepping is up and running, and it’s already sampling to some Intel customers. As noted in previous disclosures, Granite Rapids is a tile-based architecture, with separate compute and I/O tiles – an evolution from Sapphire Rapids, which even in its tiled form is essentially a complete SoC in each tile. Granite Rapids’ compute tiles are being built on the Intel 3 process, Intel’s second-generation EUV node, having been pulled in from Intel 4 in its earliest incarnation. Meanwhile we still don’t have significant official information on the I/O tiles.

Sierra Forest is another previous Intel disclosure that the company is updating investors on, and is perhaps the most important of them. The use of E cores in a Xeon processor will significantly boost the number of CPU cores Intel can offer in a single CPU socket, which the company believes will be extremely important for the market going forward. Not only will the E core design improve overall compute efficiency per socket (for massively threaded workloads, at least), but it will afford cloud service providers the ability to consolidate even more virtual machine instances on to a single physical system. Like Granite Rapids, Sierra Forest is already up and running at Intel.
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Staro 29.03.2023., 18:22   #5825
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Takvim Intelovim najavama u zadnje vrijeme vjerujem koliko i proročanstvima Vidovitog Milana.
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Staro 29.03.2023., 18:23   #5827
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Takvim Intelovim najavama u zadnje vrijeme vjerujem koliko i proročanstvima Vidovitog Milana.
I to kaj veliš, s tim da kod Milana barem znaš kaj očekivati, dok je situacija kod Intela malo zajebanija, ali lako za to i zajebanciju na stranu, ukoliko išta od ovoga uspiju sprovesti u djelo - dobro bude.
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Sierra Forest will use only E-cores to achieve higher core counts in order to compete with AMD's Epyc server processors codenamed Bergamo which features up to 128 smaller Zen 4c cores.

AMD's Zen 4c cores feature simultaneous multithreading (SMT) while the Gracemont E-cores featured in Sierra Forest processors only contain one thread for each core.
Ovo bude zanimljivo, obzirom da je Zen 4c zapravo punokrvni Zen 4, samo kaj su smanjili L3 cache za Zen 4c s 32MB na 16MB, tako da na kraju lakše imaju 16-core CCD/CCX za 128C/256T EPYC Bergamo CPU.
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Staro 12.04.2023., 21:56   #5828
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Intel exiting the server business selling to MiTAC
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Intel has been cutting a number of non-core data center businesses over the past year or so. Examples of these have been things like the Intel Optane $559M Impairment with Q2 2022 Wind-Down or the Intel Q4 2022 Barefoot switching business. Rumors on the street are the next business it could be looking to exit is its server business. We have heard the rumor a few times over the past weeks, and selling its server business makes a lot of sense. We reached out to Intel, and it confirmed that it is exiting the business and selling it to MiTAC (parent of Tyan.)
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In line with Intel’s continued efforts to prioritize investments in its IDM 2.0 strategy, we have made the difficult decision to exit our Data Center Solutions Group (DSG). As part of this plan, MiTAC, an edge-to-cloud IT solutions provider and longstanding ODM partner of DSG, will have the right to manufacture and sell products based on our designs. We are focused on ensuring the DSG team and its stakeholders are supported during this transition.
Selling servers is not Intel’s core business. Its core business is a components or subsystems business, much like AMD or the nVidia DGX/HGX business we featured yesterday. Intel’s servers are great, they often have very forward-looking features and served us well. At the same time, designing and building server chips is hard with perhaps the number of players being counted on one hand. Making a motherboard is one where there are a few dozen players. Cables are largely standardized in the industry and there are dozens of chassis manufacturers. Intel’s core, high-margin business here is selling silicon, not sheet metal. This business has had less marketing push behind it than the Barefoot business. Judging by the lack of activity and rumors on the street we felt like this was going to happen. Now we have confirmation directly from Intel.
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Na serverskom polju i dalje sve ide po planu i programu, dok se za desktop možda čak i posloži slabiji Meteor Lake CPU, tak da im baš ne propadnu sve jezgre inicijalno namijenjene isključivo mobilnom izdanju.
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Intel Sapphire Rapids sales forcasted to slow down, Microsoft cuts orders
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Intel's major Cloud Service Provider (CSP) client, Microsoft, has notified the supply chain that the company is cutting orders of Sapphire Rapids Xeons by 50-70% in the second half of 2023. Interestingly, Intel's supply chain has notified the company to cut chip orders by around 50% amidst weak server demand. This comes straight after Intel's plans to start shipping Sapphire Rapids processors in the second quarter of 2023 and deliver the highly anticipated lineup to customers.
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Intel's Meteor Lake CPUs for desktops incoming, but there's a catch
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Intel is on track to release its codenamed Meteor Lake-S processors for desktops in the coming quarters, but there's a catch. The company will only address entry-level and mainstream systems with these CPUs, whereas performance-demanding PCs will have to use Raptor Lake Refresh or Arrow Lake-S processors. It looks as though Intel's Meteor Lake-S processors will only exist in Core i3 and Core i5 models rated for 35W and 65W, which is good enough for compact and standard entry-level and mid-range desktops. Meteor Lake-S will share Intel's Socket V1 (for LGA1851 CPUs) and Intel's 800-series chipset platform with Intel's Arrow Lake-S processors. Meanwhile, motherboards aimed at Arrow Lake-S, which will exist in Core i7 and Core i9 variants for gamers and enthusiasts, will feature considerably more advanced voltage regulating modules to offer maximum performance. You can expect it will be priced accordingly.
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https://wccftech.com/intel-posts-its...-sinking-ship/

Ouch, to je rezultat svih tih promašaja od proizvoda, odgoda, puno obečanja i pričanja, malo dela itd.
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IMHO sve je to samo manji dio unaprijed pomno zacrtanog, ali itekako većeg procesa kodnog naziva P.L.A.N._i_P.R.O.G.R.A.M., pa iako se čini da je firma u krugovima stručLJaka poznata po rekordnim zaradama u nekoj vrsti financijske nedaće - ne treba vjerovati ovim zajedljivim bombastičnim naslovima diljem Interneta, jer Intel samo čeka pravi trenutak da se iz sjene kao narodCki heroj vrate kak i priliči, te obrišu pod sa svom zapravo nebitnom konkurencijom. Možda se čini da je Intel kao firma lagano izgubila kompas, ali to je zapravo njihova strategija iskovana još tamo davne 2017., a prvi plodovi se upravo naziru, jer neprijatelj nikad ne spava i uvijek treba očekivati neočekivano. I onda kad se najmanje nadamo, Intel će kad za to stigne pravi trenutak, svima pokazati i dokazati tko je najboljiJi ikad u povijesti, samo treba imati strpljenja, jer gdje ima volje ima i načina.
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  • As CEO Patrick Gelsinger enters his third year at the helm of the company that put “silicon” in “Silicon Valley,” investors are wondering if Intel has bottomed out.

  • According to Intel, the company is on track to launch Meteor Lake in the second half of the year. And more specifically, at this point Meteor Lake is now in production and ramping alongside the new Intel 4 process.
Krf ti Isusovu, oni su u samo pet godina došli do ovakvog stanja, a imali su apsolutno nikakvu konkurenciju, koja bi ih na bilo koji način sputavala da postignu kaj god ih volja, ali ne - ajmo stajati na mjestu više od desetljeća.
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Možemo mi mrziti Jensena, no on je direktor svemira za ove mamlaze iz Intela.
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Da, nije uopće sporno, a kak je krenulo još bude Intel divizija unutar nVidije.
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The Beginning of the Bottom For Intel’s Datacenter Business
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"Notably missing from Intel's financial report was any mention of its Accelerated Computing Systems and Graphics (AXG) group. The division has suffered repeated setbacks over the past few months. Client and datacenter products from the company's former AXG business had been absorbed by the company's DCAI and CCG groups, likely inflating their revenues in the process. We have said that AXG was created solely to keep the heavy investments in GPU technology from hitting the operating income of the DC&AI and CCG groups, and now that AXG has been sliced up and jammed into them, you can see the effect on the operating income is not good. Considering how profitable Data Center Group was for so long, this is a bit of a shock to the Intel financial system and to its ego. It would have been better for Intel to have remembered that it needed to keep pace with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co with process nodes and with investments in its foundry. "
Jebeno, čak i kad stjuniraju brojke izgleda loše, a kamoli da stvari prikažu kak spada.
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Staro 28.04.2023., 14:56   #5835
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Možemo mi mrziti Jensena, no on je direktor svemira za ove mamlaze iz Intela.
Pa Jensen je THE direktor u ITu IMHO.
Možemo se zezati na jaknu i špatule, ali čovjek zna zarađivati lovu.
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Intel vode PR, marketing i ekonomisti, dok im se aktualni direktor sjeća kak je to bilo biti inženjer prije 30 godina. nVidia i AMD su pod palicom konkretnih tehnički potkovanih ljudi.
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Intel vode PR, marketing i ekonomisti, dok im se aktualni direktor sjeća kak je to bilo biti inženjer prije 30 godina. nVidia i AMD su pod palicom konkretnih tehnički potkovanih ljudi.
To se i vidi po rezultatima, Intelu je nekad moglo prolaziti oslanjanje na marketinški tim, blaćenje AMD-a itd, no s probuđenim AMD-om to više ne mogu, sada se moraju osloniti na inženjerski tim, a to nije lako, traži vremena kojeg nestaje jer AMD ne usporava.
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Nastavno na temu odličnog marketinga, Intel stručLJaci sve skupa pojačavaju na 11 i nema nikakve greške u tom naumu.
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Intel is planning a major change in its client processor brand extensions with its next-generation mobile processors codenamed "Meteor Lake." The company is working to introduce the new Core Ultra brand extensions, where "Ultra" replaces the "i" in extensions such as i3, i5, i7, and i9 in some processor models. An example of such a brand extension would be the Core Ultra 5 1003H. Imagine you're losing market share when you've been monopoly for decades, and your bright idea is to burn all brand recognition to the ground! That's Intel's plan by removing the 'i' in i7 i5 i3. All the decades brand recognition being lit on fire for no reason!
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Nastavno na temu odličnog marketinga, Intel stručLJaci sve skupa pojačavaju na 11 i nema nikakve greške u tom naumu.
Kakav je A380 u usporedbi s radeon 680m? MTL iGPU će kako god imati dobar boost u performansama, no i RDNA 2 je daleko ispred njihovog trenutnog rješenja, a kamoli RDNA 3.
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U najboljem slučaju Intel A380 i Radeon 680M iGPU su tu negdje, ali zajeb je u tome da A380 svakak treba ReBAR, makar kak god se okrene RDNA 3 780M iGPU je sasvim druga galaksija u odnosu na A380.
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U međuvremenu je dodatno potvrđeno. Ostaje za vidjeti kaj točno budu složili za Intel Core Ultra Turbo Mega Extra Pro Super Meteor Lake.
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Intel "Emerald Rapids" doubles down on on-die caches, divests on chiplets
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Finding itself embattled with AMD's EPYC "Genoa" processors, Intel is giving its 4th Gen Xeon Scalable "Sapphire Rapids" processor a rather quick succession in the form of the Xeon Scalable "Emerald Rapids," bound for Q4-2023 (about 8-10 months in). The new processor shares the same LGA4677 platform and infrastructure, and much of the same I/O, but brings about two key design changes that should help Intel shore up per-core performance, making it competitive to EPYC "Zen 4" processors with higher core-counts. Semi Analysis compiled a nice overview of the changes, the two broadest points of it being—1. Intel is peddling back on the chiplet approach to high core-count CPUs, and 2., that it wants to give the memory sub-system and inter-core performance a massive performance boost using larger on-die caches.

The "Emerald Rapids" processor has just two large dies in its extreme core-count (XCC) avatar, compared to "Sapphire Rapids," which can have up to four of these. There are just three EMIB dies interconnecting these two, compared to "Sapphire Rapids," which needs as many as 10 of these to ensure direct paths among the four dies. The CPU core count itself doesn't see a notable increase. Each of the two dies on "Emerald Rapids" physically features 33 CPU cores, so a total of 66 are physically present, although one core per die is left unused for harvesting. So the maximum core-count possible commercially is 32 cores per die, or 64 cores per socket. "Emerald Rapids" continues to be based on the Intel 7 process (10 nm Enhanced SuperFin), probably with a few architectural improvements for higher clock-speeds. As we noted earlier, the I/O is nearly identical between "Sapphire Rapids" and "Emerald Rapids." The processor puts out four 20 GT/s UPI links for inter-socket communication. Each of the two dies has a PCI-Express Gen 5 root-complex with 48 lanes, however only 40 of these are wired out. So the processor puts out a total of 80 PCIe Gen 5 lanes. This is an identical count to that of "Sapphire Rapids," which put out 32 lanes per chiplet, 128 in total, but only 20 lanes per die would be wired out. The memory interface is the same, with the processor featuring an 8-channel DDR5 interface, but the native memory speed sees an upgrade to DDR5-5600, up from the present DDR5-4800.

While "Sapphire Rapids" uses enterprise variants of the "Golden Cove" CPU cores that have 2 MB of dedicated L2 caches, "Emerald Rapids" use the more modern "Raptor Cove" cores that also power Intel's 13th Gen Core client processors. Each of the 66 cores has 2 MB of dedicated L2 cache. What's new, however, is that each core has a large 5 MB segment of L3 cache, compared to "Golden Cove" enterprise, which only has a 1.875 MB segment, a massive 166% increase. The maximum amount of L3 cache possible on a 60-core "Sapphire Rapids" processor is 112.5 MB, whereas for the top 64-core "Emerald Rapids" SKU, this number is 320 MB, a 184% increase. Intel has also increased the cache snoop filter sizes per core. Semi Analysis also calculated that despite being based on the same Intel 7 process as "Sapphire Rapids," it would cost Intel less to make an "Emerald Rapids" processor with slightly higher core-count and much larger caches. Without scribe lines, the four dies making up "Sapphire Rapids" add up to 1,510 mm² of die-area, whereas the two dies making up "Emerald Rapids" only add up to 1,493 mm². Intel calculates that it can carve out all the relevant CPU core-count based SKUs by either giving the processor 1 or 2 dies, and doesn't need 4 of them for finer-grained SKU segmentation. AMD uses up to twelve 8-core "Zen 4" CCDs to achieve its 96-core count.
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Novi otkazi i rezanja u Intelu, ko zna možda bude der8auer za koji dan imal kakav "nekaj ne štima s AMD proizvodima" video.
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Intel comments on reports of new layoffs, budget cuts in Client CPU and Data Center Groups
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Intel responded to our queries about rumors that the company is embarking on a fresh wave of layoffs that come as a result of a new 10% budget cut to its client computing group (CCG), the division responsible for producing consumer CPUs, and its data center group (DCG). The reports come as Intel continues its company-wide belt-tightening as it grapples with the worst CPU market in 30 years. Intel's statement confirms it is reducing its workforce in specific areas but doesn't state the number of employees impacted, or in what areas of the company. It also doesn't define the magnitude of the budget reductions. The company says it will continue investing in its chip-manufacturing operations, a common refrain in many of its statements as it has exited several businesses yet remained focused on its IDM 2.0 objectives.
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AMD CPUs powered 13 supercomputers on the list in 2016 but now have reached 121 largely powered by its newer EPYC processors.

Meanwhile, Intel declined from 454 machines in 2016 to 360 today, with many of those powered by Xeon chips dating back nearly a decade.
Nažalost ništa pretjerano pozitivno, jer Intel i dalje odgađa unaprijed najavljene i praktični zagarantirane proizvode, dok istovremeno priznaju da nije baš lako iskombinirati CPU + GPU u istom pakiranju.

Za razliku od Intelovih CPU + GPU pokušaja, AMD MI300 i nVidia Grace Hopper su konkretno realizirani i idu u pogon tijekom druge polovice ove godine, tako da će Intel kad-tad morati nadoknaditi još veću razliku.

Čekamo der8aurea da ublaži udarac s nekim "tehničkim osvrtom".
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Intel je koma teska, ko muha bez glave su, treba im jedno jebeno restrukturiranje. Najpametnije bi im bilo dat koznatome 10 milijardi da im bude CEO....
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Da, koga god da nađu kao zamjenu za aktualno vodstvo, jer očito je da im ne ide, a oni i dalje samo pričaju u prazno. Sad više i ne pokušavaju skrivati da zaostaju u svim segmentima.
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Takvim Intelovim najavama u zadnje vrijeme vjerujem koliko i proročanstvima Vidovitog Milana.


Jel se to meni čini ili Intelu kola idu nizbrdo?
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