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Staro 27.05.2015., 10:24   #5131
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Bojim se da ćeš ih morat trpit još 2 godine...
A mater će mi trpit i plaćat, ja srićom nisam na smeću...Al koja je to prevara, kako mogu produžit ugovor, ako mi je telefon na oca a ne na mater..njihovoj ljigavosti nema kraja
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Staro 27.05.2015., 10:37   #5132
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Pisi ti hakomu svejedno, nemas sta izgubit. Jer po zakonskoj osnovi ugovor se ne moze sklopiti telefonski, ali se iz nekog razloga tim govnarima zmiri na jedno oko.
Kao prvo gdje je tu dokaz da osoba prihvaca produljiti ugovor pod odredenim uvjetima
Drugo, gdje je dokaz da je ta osoba vlasnik linije
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Staro 27.05.2015., 13:17   #5133
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Zvalo mi jučer oca da mi šalju "novi router" kao da se iskupe šta optika koju si mu obećali još prošlo ljeto JOŠ nije dostupna Naravno otac nema pojma o čemu se radi, ali meni smrdi na VDSL
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Staro 28.05.2015., 11:59   #5134
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Evo da i ja javim da sam dobio VDSL (Turbo 20) u Požegi (Sajmište).
17.5 narucio router, dosao mi jucer. Sve ja to pospajam i nazovem ih i kazem da mi aktiviraju VDSL, prvo se javila neka zena i kaze oke sad cu vam ja to restartati, pricekajte 10 minuta i dobit ce te VDSL. Ja pricekam kad ono opet pise ADSL modul, i ista brzina. Zovem ja opet i javlja se neki decko i kaze da oni moraju svojoj administraciji poslati da mi je stigao router pa ce to biti aktivirano sutra.
Eto tako je i bilo, probudim se danas oko 11 sati kad ono ceka me punih 20/2Mbps.

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Staro 05.06.2015., 09:29   #5135
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Od 8.6 nove vdsl brzine:
Turbo 40: 40/6
Turbo 50: 50/10

A dodatna adsl brzina do 10 je sada turbo 10.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 09:32   #5136
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A cijene?
Ne kužim ADSL 4 je 20/2, 10Mbps je 30/5 a koje bi bile naknade za ove pakete?
(prije je 40mbps bio za poslovne)
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Staro 05.06.2015., 10:04   #5137
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Nezz za cijene ako se mijenjaju za turbo, ali nema više ovisnosti da li imaš 4 ili 10 jer je sad svaka veca brzina kao turbo opcija na 4.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 11:06   #5138
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A cijene?
Ne kužim ADSL 4 je 20/2, 10Mbps je 30/5 a koje bi bile naknade za ove pakete?
(prije je 40mbps bio za poslovne)
Nadoplata za Turbo 40 ili 50 je 30kn.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 11:18   #5139
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Znači ako netko ima ADSL 5/512 za 30kn mjesečno može imati Turbo 40 ili Turbo 50?

(isto plaća i ADSL 10mbps)?

Ako sam dobro shvatio, znači ako korisnik uzme MAX2S (215kn/mj) dobiva ADSL 10 odnosno po novom Turbo 50?
To je povoljnije nego kod iskona gdje 50/10 paket košta 220kn mj.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 12:18   #5140
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Znači ako netko ima ADSL 5/512 za 30kn mjesečno može imati Turbo 40 ili Turbo 50?
Rekli su mi da je nadolpata sa Turbo 20 ili 30 na 40 ili 50, 30kn.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 13:59   #5141
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Nadoplata za Turbo 40 ili 50 je 30kn.
meni su pustili turbo 40 bez nadoplate.
poslovni korisnik.

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Staro 05.06.2015., 14:54   #5142
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Jel se moze vidjeti koliko bi meni max brzina išla?

Bili išli T40 ili 50?n (sad imam T30)

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Staro 05.06.2015., 15:03   #5143
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Piše ti sve,

Išao bi ti 50/10mbps paket. Doduše još mi nije jasna nadoplata. Jer 20/5 imaš ako koristiš ADSL 5Mbps odnosno nema nadoplate.
A 30/5 dobiješ ako plaćaš ADSL 10Mbps i nadoplaćuješ +30kn tu brzinu. (ili besplatno u Max2S uz ugovor)
I bome nadplata od +30kn će prije ići ako imaš VDSL 30/5 (kojeg već plaćaš +30kn) pa bi bilo 30+30kn ako imaš samo 20mbps.
Zovite pa pitajte, ja sam na Iskonu i HT ne uključuje vdsl na mojoj adresi.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 15:51   #5144
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Ni kod mene nista jos. Dakle ja sad imam adsl2+ 5-10 ali nisam u nijednom Max paketu... znaci li to da bi trebao po defaultu imati Turbo 40 (kad bi bio drugi DSLAM), ili uz nadoplatu od 30 kn?
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meni su pustili turbo 40 bez nadoplate.
poslovni korisnik.

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Za poslovne korisnike je i bio Turbo 40 umjesto 30. 30 nisu ni nudili.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 16:37   #5146
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Piše ti sve,
[IMG*]http://i.imgur.com/srtR0Uo.jpg[/IMG]
Išao bi ti 50/10mbps paket. Doduše još mi nije jasna nadoplata. Jer 20/5 imaš ako koristiš ADSL 5Mbps odnosno nema nadoplate.
A 30/5 dobiješ ako plaćaš ADSL 10Mbps i nadoplaćuješ +30kn tu brzinu. (ili besplatno u Max2S uz ugovor)
I bome nadplata od +30kn će prije ići ako imaš VDSL 30/5 (kojeg već plaćaš +30kn) pa bi bilo 30+30kn ako imaš samo 20mbps.
Zovite pa pitajte, ja sam na Iskonu i HT ne uključuje vdsl na mojoj adresi.
Thxm budem ih pitao 8.6 kad krene pa javim ovdje ishod!
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Staro 05.06.2015., 17:47   #5147
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http://forum.pcekspert.com/showpost....postcount=1431

Sorry ako spamam, ali imam jedno pitanjce pa da linkam sa MAXtv teme, možda bi bilo bolje da sam odmah tu stavio jer se više tiče VDSL-a nego MAXtv-a.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 18:24   #5148
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Ma mogu oni ponuditi i 100/100, svejedno mi je jer nemam mogucnost prijelaza na VDSL.
Stvarno su ustogljeni i mislim da cu imati mogucnost prijelaza na VDSL tamo negdje 2027.
Tj. ako u meduvremenu slucajno nekako ne uspijem nagovoriti svoje doma da se prebacimo na Iskon, koji nude 50/10.
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Staro 05.06.2015., 18:58   #5149
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Je li postoje nekakvi izvori službeni ili nešto za ova povećanja Turbo brzina (30 u 40, 40 na 50) ?
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Je li postoje nekakvi izvori službeni ili nešto za ova povećanja Turbo brzina (30 u 40, 40 na 50) ?
Mogućnost povećanja će biti, a meni su u SZK rekli da će se plaćati 30kn. 08.06. kreće.
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Staro 06.06.2015., 11:30   #5151
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Ajoj, danas bio u T-centru i jedino sto je bilo stvarno dobro je usluznost tipa koji radi tamo, stvarno se potrudio raspetljati taj gordijski čvor.

Dakle, ADSL imamo već više od 5 godina, MAXTV peko godinu dana, na VDSL2 10mbit sam prešao pred pola godine. Stvarno prezadovoljan, bez pucanja radi.

Htjeo sam aktivirati jos neke usluge, medju njima Turbo brzine, kada ono - sustav mu ne dopusta bilo kakve promjene jer moja linija NEMA mogućnost za ADSL!!!

Gleda tip u T-centru, gleda njegov kolega, vrte se po izbornicima, ali sustav im stalno izbacuje - nema tehničke mogućnosti za ADSL???

Zovem SZK nakon toga, agentica me pita - a kako to da imam ADSL, kada njoj pise da nemam tehnickih mogucnosti za ADSL? I kaze da mi nikako ne moze pomoći osim da napišem mail tehničkoj podršci.

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Staro 06.06.2015., 11:34   #5152
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Ajoj, danas bio u T-centru i jedino sto je bilo stvarno dobro je usluznost tipa koji radi tamo, stvarno se potrudio raspetljati taj gordijski čvor.

Dakle, ADSL imamo već više od 5 godina, MAXTV peko godinu dana, na VDSL2 10mbit sam prešao pred pola godine. Stvarno prezadovoljan, bez pucanja radi.

Htjeo sam aktivirati jos neke usluge, medju njima Turbo brzine, kada ono - sustav mu ne dopusta bilo kakve promjene jer moja linija NEMA mogućnost za ADSL!!!

Gleda tip u T-centru, gleda njegov kolega, vrte se po izbornicima, ali sustav im stalno izbacuje - nema tehničke mogućnosti za ADSL???

Zovem SZK nakon toga, agentica me pita - a kako to da imam ADSL, kada njoj pise da nemam tehnickih mogucnosti za ADSL? I kaze da mi nikako ne moze pomoći osim da napišem mail tehničkoj podršci.

Sto napraviti dalje?
Pa napiši mail tehničkoj podršci.
Po mom iskustvu rješavaju/javljaju se za dan do dva.
Meni nije nitko mogao prebaciti sa Turbo30/3 na Turbo 30/5 dok njih nisam kontaktirao na mail.
Samo ostavi kontakt podatke kako treba, broj fiksne, mob i ime/prezime vlasnika linije.
I naravno dobro objasni problem.
Mene su samo obavijestili na mob da su riješili.
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Staro 06.06.2015., 13:27   #5153
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@ampeshi, stavi nam parametre parice ovdje (ss iz routera) da vidimo i komentiramo.
Možda ti je max 50/15Mbps i turbo bez problema može a možda imaš lošu paricu, max ti je 20/2mbps na vdsl-u, jako si udaljen pa shodno tome i njihov automatiziran sustav izbacuje nemogućnost uključenja/promjene paketa.
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Staro 06.06.2015., 13:54   #5155
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Na ovoj parici si na granici da nemaš tehničkih uvjeta za uključenje Turbo 30.
Maksimalno ti je oko 30/4mbps -uzimajući u obzir da je rezervirano oko 5mbps za maxtv ne bi ti mogli isporučiti 30mbps i sustav ne dozvoljava uključenje. (tako ja to vidim)
Kako plaćaš 10mbps ne mogu ti uključiti niži Turbo 20 (jer je to za one koji imaju/plaćaju 4mbps)
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Znači da prestanem plačati 10mbit, vratim se na 4 i onda zatražim turbo 20?
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Znači da prestanem plačati 10mbit, vratim se na 4 i onda zatražim turbo 20?
Upravo to...upali turbo 20 i mir...dok se nesrede tehničke stvari oko parice tj linije...
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Imam Max uslugu, telefone, tv i internet. Telefon uopce ne koristim, nemam ga kao uredjaj u stanu. I prvo mi racuni sa 360kn skocili na 420, sad je zadnji racun 500kn. Filmove ne kupujem i ne koristim tu uslugu, nikakve dodatne pakete nisam ukljucivao. WTF?

Sutra idem do t-centra radi ovoga, jer ne vidim po kojoj logici mi povecavaju racune. Samo me zanima im li bilo tko slicnih iskustava?
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Pa valjda ti na računu piše šta plaćaš i po kojoj cifri, stvarno te ne kužim...
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Racun ne dobivam, sve ide po nalogu, nikad nista od njih nisam dobio. Imam 4mb net, maxtv + njemacke kanale + sport. No nema veze, sutra cu vidjeti u cemu je tocno njihova fora za povecanje.

Jer nije vazno, da je 500kn, 500 je kn. No onda ne moze biti 502, niti 497kn. Vec 500. Jer nista dodatno ne trosim. A kod mene racuni variraju poprilicno, iako ponavljam - telefon uopce nemam niti koristim.
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