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Staro 09.07.2025., 18:56   #7621
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Pogledaš na Keepa i vidiš da su umjetno napumpane cijene prije sniženja, ništa novo. Tu i tamo se nađe nešto vrijedno pažnje, ali sve manje.
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Staro 09.07.2025., 19:36   #7622
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oćete reć da i oni napuhnu cijene prije i onda stave neki "veći" popust da ispadne "yeben deal ( kak ovdje vole "znalci" reć)
Taj laptop nije za 1500 išao nikada.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 09.07.2025., 21:49   #7623
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Jos jedan prime u nizu kad nisam nista ustedio naspram bilo koje random akcije na amazonu. Stvaraju taj psiholoski pritisak s ogranicenim trajanjem akcije, a cijene iste kao random akcija koja bude svakih mjesec dana.
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Staro 09.07.2025., 23:22   #7624
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Ja sam uzeo Ecovacs Deebot T80 omni za 650 eura, po meni odlicna cijena, trazim neki bezicni mis sad
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Staro 10.07.2025., 10:18   #7625
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https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Bluetooth...ef=sr_1_3?th=1

npr. ovo, ali mislim da imaš i raznih drugih modela na popustu.
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Staro 10.07.2025., 11:07   #7626
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Jel ovo ok cijena za earbudse?

Tražim neke da imaju active noise cancelling. Pretragom sam došao do ovih Ankerovih. Kao najbolji bang for buck

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/produc...JL0BBLHLX&th=1
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Staro 10.07.2025., 16:02   #7627
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https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Bluetooth...ef=sr_1_3?th=1

npr. ovo, ali mislim da imaš i raznih drugih modela na popustu.
Mislim da cu 3s, je skuplji al ono
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Staro 10.07.2025., 18:13   #7628
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Nemoj kupovat MX Master 3s ako boga znaš. Smeće samo takvo, nemoj, vjeruj mi. Ako baš inzistiraš, mogu ti ja poslati dva switcha pa ih odmah zamijeni unutar garantnog roka
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Staro 11.07.2025., 02:18   #7629
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Zašto smeće? Korostom ga par godina i zadovoljan sam, nema nikakvih problema.
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Staro 11.07.2025., 07:41   #7630
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Nemoj kupovat MX Master 3s ako boga znaš. Smeće samo takvo, nemoj, vjeruj mi. Ako baš inzistiraš, mogu ti ja poslati dva switcha pa ih odmah zamijeni unutar garantnog roka
Kolegi dali novi miš, nisu mu switch mjenjali, ali los proizvod. Vidi te probleme na internetu oko tog.

Poslano sa mog RMO-NX1 koristeći Tapatalk
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Staro 11.07.2025., 09:20   #7631
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Damn, vidio ovo tek sad, nakon sta sam narucio ofc Jel moguce da je toliko los haha!

Ima sam sharkoon fireglidera jedno 15tak god, prosa je torturu dote sa 140 apm, i eno jos je ziv malo kabel popuca al je dobar, a od onda minjam svake 2 godine taman kad garancija istenkne crkne....

Evo otkaza sam narudzbu, nezz oce li proc kazu da ne znaju al ajde sta bude bitce
Zadnje izmijenjeno od: OuttaControl. 11.07.2025. u 09:42.
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Staro 11.07.2025., 09:52   #7632
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Zašto smeće? Korostom ga par godina i zadovoljan sam, nema nikakvih problema.
Same here.
Dio ureda na 22, dio na 3s, nitko se nije žalio, niti je iti jedan krepao.
Svi nabavljani preko amazona jer su kod nas cijene bile previsoke.
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Staro 11.07.2025., 10:18   #7633
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Nemoj kupovat MX Master 3s ako boga znaš. Smeće samo takvo, nemoj, vjeruj mi. Ako baš inzistiraš, mogu ti ja poslati dva switcha pa ih odmah zamijeni unutar garantnog roka
Istina, meni je bio savršen za koristit ali nije prošlo ni godinu dana krenili problemi s double clickom.
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Staro 11.07.2025., 10:20   #7634
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Sve je dobro ako nije svijetlosivi 3s, taj ce se gotovo sigurno poceti ljustiti Kolega je imao dva komada, oba isti problem. Prvog je u garanciji uspio zamijeniti

https://www.google.com/search?sca_es...h=782&dpr=2.63


Taj 3s je toliko problematican da ga je najsigurnije izbjeci. Jos uvijek se nisam rijesio prvog Mastera, to bi mogao biti i moj zadnji mis pa dok traje traje (presao sam na trackball, ali jedan mis je uvijek na stolu).
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Staro 11.07.2025., 10:50   #7635
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Damn, vidio ovo tek sad, nakon sta sam narucio ofc Jel moguce da je toliko los haha!

Ima sam sharkoon fireglidera jedno 15tak god, prosa je torturu dote sa 140 apm, i eno jos je ziv malo kabel popuca al je dobar, a od onda minjam svake 2 godine taman kad garancija istenkne crkne....

Evo otkaza sam narudzbu, nezz oce li proc kazu da ne znaju al ajde sta bude bitce
i ja ga koristio 10 godina ali preskače kotačić. da sam našao novi takav odma bi ga kupio
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Staro 11.07.2025., 18:59   #7636
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Da je isti samo wireless....

A ja sam uzeo 3s izgleda, nije uspio amazon otkazat, za 2.5 godine se čujemo kad prodje garancija i crkne
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Staro 11.07.2025., 19:29   #7637
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Imaš dosta vremena da kupiš lemilicu i switcheve
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Staro 11.07.2025., 20:24   #7638
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I naucim lemit najbitnije

Inace bas gledam hyperx pulsfire dart sam uzeo prije 2 godine i 9 miseci
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Staro 11.07.2025., 21:18   #7639
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Zašto smeće? Korostom ga par godina i zadovoljan sam, nema nikakvih problema.
Zato šta masivno rikavaju switchevi dva dana van garancije, zato.
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Staro 13.07.2025., 11:45   #7640
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Imao sam ja double click problem sa starijim modelima ali to je bilo lako za riješiti. U switch bi ušla masnoća ili prašina pa ga je bilo potrebno pošpricati kontakt sprejem ili alkoholom i pričekati da se osuši. Nakon toga kao novi. Slično i s kotačem - unutar okvira kotača bi se nakupilo puno prašine i masnoće.
Ako cijeli ured koristi te miševe i nijedan nema problem, vjerojatno je ured dobro klimatiziran i čist
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Staro 13.07.2025., 13:49   #7641
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Koristim MX Anywhere od prve verzije, znači cca 15 godina. Imao sam ih sve i svi su imali problem kad tad, a najčešće sam imao po 2 komada (jedan doma, drugi na poslu).
Evo 3s se još drže, ali tek je nešto više od godinu dana prošlo.

1,2,2s su imali double click problem, na 3 mi je crkavao wheel click.
2 puta sam reklamirao unutar jamstva, jedinicu su mi zamijenili za dvojku, a 2s za 2s.
U početku sam mijenjao switcheve ali mi se više ne da pa imam punu ladicu problematičnih glodavaca.
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Staro 13.07.2025., 14:26   #7642
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Meni je desni klik počeo krepavat malo nakon isteka garancije. Nije bio u pitanju dvoklik nego tipka nije dugo držala pritisnuto stanje i ne bi svaki put prihvatilo pritiskanje.

Pročitao sam o špricanju tipki, ali mi je bilo logičnije, kada već otvaram miša, da zamijenim obje tipke s nečim kvalitetnim. Pošto je logitech išao štedjeti tih 3 centa ili koliko.

Također sam mislio da mi je scroller otišao, ali na kraju se ispostavilo da je do bilo samo zbog prljavštine, kako je već ranije navedeno.

Koliko sam ja vidio, unutra nije bilo niti prljavo niti prašnjavo, izuzev scrollera koji je povukao od prstiju/ruku/ćevapa. Za to ne kažem, jasno je da od korištenja bude svašta nešto unutra.

Ono što me raspizdilo je što u ladici imam MX518 koji radi bez problema. Pojma nemam kada sam ga kupio (možda cca 2010?), koštao je vjerojatno ekvivalent današnjih 100€. Počeo je nakon 5-6 godina malo trokirati desni klik pa sam napravio izvrstan potez i kupio G502 (cca 2016), koji je bio teško skvičavo sranje i kojeg sam koristio nešto godina, dok mi skvičanje nije skroz dopizdilo pa sam uzeo 3s prije cca 3 godine.

U međuvremenu je MX518 odradio 3-4 godine u raznim uredima, taj desni klik za kojeg se činilo da je spreman failat nije failo nego se čak i sam od sebe popravio. Vjerojatno je to bilo nešto prljavštine unutra koja je prošla kroz. Nastavio je čamiti u ladici i svaki put kada mi treba izvadim ga vanka i radi. Nikad niti jednu lošu riječ o MX518 ne mogu kazati nikako.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Najbolje od svega je da je 518 imao pet godina garancije.
Uspio ga dva puta reklamirati u pokojnom Ve-Mil-u.
Treći je crko izvan garancije.
Nije ni čudo da su počeli ugrađivati falične komponente, nemreš profit ostvarit proizvodeći kvalitetne proizvode.
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> nemreš profit ostvarit proizvodeći kvalitetne proizvode.

Istina.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Microsoft 365 Family - godinu dana za 54€:
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B0CNFPQKNW

M365 Family daje za 6 korisnika 1TB OneDrive-a svakom useru (dakle ukupno 6TB), te Office 365 aplikacije za Windows i Mac.

Ispada da za 9€ godišnje po useru dobijete Office aplikacije i 1TB Onedrive.

EDIT: Ne kužim baš foru, kao pretplata je prek Amazona? Uglavnom, ak kupite preporučujem da odmah ugasite pretplatu da za godinu dana Amazon ne mazne 135€
Kako doći do ovoga? Uporno mi nudi 114€ per year?
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Staro 13.07.2025., 18:41   #7646
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Ako i uspiješ doći do te cijene, pročitaj komentare prije kupovine - ove od 1*.


Tri puta sam kupovao 12+3 mjeseca + Norton za 50ak €. I sve je bio OK. Normalna MS licenca.


Od nedavno, promijenili su pravila i toga više nema - ovo je nekakava Amazon pretplata kojom ne možeš produžiti eventualnu licencu koju imaš (gubiš preostale mjesece), nego predaješ račun Amazonu na upravljanje. Što to sve donosi sa sobom ne želim niti zamišljati.
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Jeste narucivali s ovog shopa https://www.hophop.hr/ , sve legit?
Pušem i na hladno.
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Jeste narucivali s ovog shopa https://www.hophop.hr/ , sve legit?
Pušem i na hladno.
A nisi pogledao O nama? Jbte to prvo pogledam kad naletim na neki novi shop.

Sjedište tvrtke:

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Telefon: 040/321-570

E-mail: support@hophop.hr

a na ronis.hr piše:

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jel valja ovaj disk sa malla za 50 eura
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