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Staro 31.05.2025., 11:59   #2881
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Pozdrav!
Ima li bonbon e Sim i moze li se kupiti ista online?
Treba prijatelju neki neograniceni internet u EU na prepaidu.
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Neograničen Internet u cijeloj EU ne s jednim operaterom ne postoji.
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Staro 05.06.2025., 15:42   #2882
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renutno sam na t-mobileu i mreža, internet i govorne usluge, su ok.

Međutim najskuplja je u odnosu na A1 i Telemach.

Kakva je kvaliteta te druge dvije mreže? Telemach je dosta ulagao zadnjih godina, ranije mu je pokrivenost bila loša ... jel se što popravilo? Navodno još nemaju VoLTE.

Čitam da A1 u nekim dijelovima zemlje ima lošu pokrivenost (uz obalu) ( s druge trane fiksne usluge si im sasvim u redu, vjerojatno najbolje od ova tri providera)

Što mislite ...
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Staro 05.06.2025., 18:24   #2883
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Paket i cijena, Bonbon pretplata. (zeleno su prenesene jedinice od mjeseca ranije).


Iskombiniraj takvo nesto, T mobile i A1 u originalu previse naplacuju.


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Staro 05.06.2025., 18:46   #2884
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A1 ima ovu akciju 50% za nove korisnike 12 mjeseci, na ove manje tarife. Mislim da nema bolje cijene od toga.
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Staro 05.06.2025., 20:17   #2885
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Najbolja opcija je A1 Savršena +, platiti jedan račun, podnese se zahtjev za prijenos broja u neku drugu mrežu i onda nazovu.
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Staro 06.06.2025., 00:35   #2886
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Paket i cijena, Bonbon pretplata. (zeleno su prenesene jedinice od mjeseca ranije).


Iskombiniraj takvo nesto, T mobile i A1 u originalu previse naplacuju.


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ti imas neku opaku kombinaciju, jer normalna tarifa 16,50e
ili ova niža 13,50

duplanje više nema, prošla akcija
a ako ides na duplanje, popust maknu
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Staro 06.06.2025., 11:02   #2887
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Najbolja opcija je A1 Savršena +, platiti jedan račun, podnese se zahtjev za prijenos broja u neku drugu mrežu i onda nazovu.
I što su ti ponudili? Koju cijenu za Savršenu?
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Staro 06.06.2025., 11:53   #2888
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renutno sam na t-mobileu i mreža, internet i govorne usluge, su ok.

Međutim najskuplja je u odnosu na A1 i Telemach.

Kakva je kvaliteta te druge dvije mreže? Telemach je dosta ulagao zadnjih godina, ranije mu je pokrivenost bila loša ... jel se što popravilo? Navodno još nemaju VoLTE.

Čitam da A1 u nekim dijelovima zemlje ima lošu pokrivenost (uz obalu) ( s druge trane fiksne usluge si im sasvim u redu, vjerojatno najbolje od ova tri providera)

Što mislite ...
Koristim Bonbon (HT infrastruktura) u prvom SIMu i A1 i Telemach izmjenično u drugom SIMu. Bonbon i A1 odlična pokrivenost, malo bolja ipak Bonbon. Telemach definitivno lošija pokrivenost nego ova dva operatera. Signal testian na Kvarneru i par puta mjesečno odem za Slavoniju.
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Staro 06.06.2025., 12:55   #2889
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I što su ti ponudili? Koju cijenu za Savršenu?
Kad sam prvi put to napravio, spustili su mi sa 195 na 115kn i mobitel 100€ jeftinije nego webshop. Sada ju plaćam na novom ugovoru gdje nisam pravio zahtjev za prijenos broja 23,5. To su mi u startu ponudili.
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Staro 06.06.2025., 15:14   #2890
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To imaš samo taj jedan broj/uslugu? E rođo moj, dok je ovaca biti će i vune
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Staro 09.06.2025., 13:10   #2891
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Kad sam prvi put to napravio, spustili su mi sa 195 na 115kn i mobitel 100€ jeftinije nego webshop. Sada ju plaćam na novom ugovoru gdje nisam pravio zahtjev za prijenos broja 23,5. To su mi u startu ponudili.
23,50€ po broju? Pa i nije neki popust...
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Staro 30.06.2025., 18:30   #2892
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Podrzava li A1 na pretplati VoWIFI, VoLTE i RCS?

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Od danas vidim aktivan VoWifi na mobitelu. VoLTE i RCS su već bili podržani kad sam se prebacivao na A1 u travnju.
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Staro 30.06.2025., 22:22   #2893
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23,50€ po broju? Pa i nije neki popust...
Gdje ima jeftiniji flat?
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Staro 01.07.2025., 01:12   #2894
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Update:
Od danas vidim aktivan VoWifi na mobitelu. VoLTE i RCS su već bili podržani kad sam se prebacivao na A1 u travnju.
VoWifi je već duže aktivan negdje pred proljeće, od prošle godine. Slučajno zaboravio ugasiti ikonu nakon zamjene mobitela.
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Staro 02.07.2025., 10:21   #2895
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VoWifi je već duže aktivan negdje pred proljeće, od prošle godine. Slučajno zaboravio ugasiti ikonu nakon zamjene mobitela.
Iz prakse vidim da nije bio aktivan. Prije par mjesecu su mi iz A1 korisnicke sluzbe potvrdili da VoWifi nije dostupan za obicne korisnike nego samo za poslovne. Od nedjelje vidim VoWifi ikonicu i da mi pozivi idu preko wifia.
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Staro 21.08.2025., 15:24   #2896
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Ističe mi 8,19€za Veliku kombinaciju u Bonbonu, dobio SMS

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Imas jos 7 dana fore da iskoristis pogodnost povoljnijih bonbon kombinacija gdje su ti cijene bile manje za 5,31?. 24 mjeseca pogodnosti proletjelo je u trenu Ako ovaj mjesec vec nisi, aktiviraj kombinaciju po zelji u ovih 7 dana, a nakon toga za tebe smo pripremili novu promo gdje ces nastaviti koristiti povoljnije kombinacije s 2,65? manjom cijenom. Vise na www.bonbon.hr Tvoj bonbon
Što je sada najjeftinije i najbolje za uzeti, ili da se prebacim na neku drugu mrežu?
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Staro 21.08.2025., 19:28   #2897
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I meni to doslo.... Brzo prosle 2 godine, kaj cemo sada? Placao sam 8.19€ Veliku kombinaciju.

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Staro 21.08.2025., 19:33   #2898
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Staro 22.08.2025., 20:42   #2899
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Istice mi na a1 ugovor za mob i za fixnu liniju. Nisam dobio neku ponudu od njih sa popustom, mislio sam vidjet u telemahu sta nude. Imaju optiku kod mene provucenu pa mi interesantno. A1 je optika do zgrade pa koaksial po stanovima.

Ostao bi mozda na a1 ako bi dali neku ok ponudu, al nije mi tesko ni prec. Ima neka caka za iskamcit nesto jeftiniju ponudu? Neki "tajni" broj? 😁
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Staro 22.08.2025., 20:53   #2900
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Iniciraj prelazak na Telemach ili nekog drugog operatera pa čekaj da te A1 kontaktira s novom ponudom.
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Staro 25.08.2025., 11:17   #2901
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Jel još negdje ima neograničeni internet za 17€? Navodno je tako nešto kompare nudio...
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Staro 31.08.2025., 18:34   #2902
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istekla mi ona promocija na bonbonu sa popustom te me xl izasao oko 13€
od iduceg mjeseca mi ide na 16.5€
naravno da ovi ne nude nikakav popust vise
sto uzeti sada,imam 6 brojeva u obitelji kod njih pa se mjesecno skupi skoro 20€ vise
nabaso sam na tomato 57000jedinica za 10,10€ na pretplatu,bez ugovora
12mjeseci mi ta cijena,dali ima kakvih caka tu ili prebacujem se slobodno?
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Staro 31.08.2025., 20:35   #2903
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Izgleda da nema, ja sam dosada placao 8, xy€ za veliku kombinaciju, od sutra poskupljuje.

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Staro 31.08.2025., 20:46   #2904
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Vidim da su u tomatu malu digli na 4+4 i dodali 1€. Mislim da mi to bude naredna opcija, nakon što A1 istekne.
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Staro 01.09.2025., 11:29   #2905
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Izgleda da nema, ja sam dosada placao 8, xy€ za veliku kombinaciju, od sutra poskupljuje.

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Evo poskupilo na 10,85. Očekivao sam više, izgleda sasvim ok.

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Staro 01.09.2025., 16:41   #2906
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57000 jedinica na tomatu je 10.10€ na 12 mjeseci pretplatu. Nakon toga ide na 20.20€, ili što već bude tada, vjerojatno sve opet promjene. Tako da ako je ovo regularna cijena 10.85€, to je sasvim OK.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 01.09.2025., 19:42   #2907
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Evo poskupilo na 10,85. Očekivao sam više, izgleda sasvim ok.

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Ne ne, imao sam 24 mjeseca po 8,xy€ i sada je to prošlo. Poskupilo je na ovu cifru 10.85 što mi je sasvim prihvatljivo.

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sto uzeti sada,imam 6 brojeva u obitelji kod njih pa se mjesecno skupi skoro 20€ vise
probaj A1 nazvat i objasnit situaciju i kaj nude.
ubace te u mozaik i daju ti odličnu ponudu.
niš te ne košta.
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Staro 20.10.2025., 21:04   #2910
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Dakle, ovo što se događa je stvarno lakrdija. Naime šta, isteklo mi sinoš 2x po 6 mjeseci u A1, imao sam onu najmanju tarifu za manje od 4€ mjesečno.

Probam prebaciti broj online, međutim tomato site ima problem i izbacuje grešku nakon potvrde koda poslanog na SMS. Danas rekoh idem vidjeti u "tomato centar" (kojeg ovdje kod nas nema, već je to tisak media) ali sam došao na ideju da zovem i "tomato podršku" gdje mi gospodja/ica kaže da mogu to odraditi i u Pošti.

TLDR: nemoje to ići raditi u poštu

Dakle, poštarica je stvarno OK, potrudila se žena, popunila dva obrasca, zvala tomato/A1 dva puta, proces prebacivanja traje 4 dana ovo ono... i na kraju je ispalo da ako ćeš se prebacivati na A1 onda "moraš" odabrati neku od tarifa na pretplatu, dok, s obzirom da prelazim sa tomato oni to (tako su njoj rekli) ne priznaju kao prelaženje s neke druge mreže??

Zovnem i ja "tomato podršku" i sada neka druga gospodja/ica me uvjerava da trebam preći na A1 (na kojem jesam) te da, ako idem na pretplatu na bonove, mi se može dogoditi da mi račun ode na 200€ nakon što potrošim jedinice iz paketa.

Na stranu to što nisam totalni jebeni idiot pa da ne kužim koliko mi je ostalo jedinica.
Na stranu to što ti šalju poruke da te obavijeste kada si pri kraju.

Ja njoj govorim da kako ću dobiti račun na tarifi na bonove ako uplatim 6€ i uzmem tarifu za 5,90€. Ona kaže kako će oni to isključiti i da ću dobiti svejedno račun.

Prihvaćam da poštarica vjerojatno komunicira s nekim kompetentnijim u tomato/A1 nego što je ova kukavelj kojoj daju da odgovaraju plebejcima. Ali kako tako?
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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