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Staro 08.06.2025., 08:13   #151
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Velik dio je open source, ali onaj najbitniji nije, međutim, možda se i to promijeni...



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Nisam shvatio što si točno mislio na linku. Koliko se sjećam razvoj je na privatnom gitu, ali se kod na kraju objavljuje.
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Staro 08.06.2025., 09:50   #152
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Nisam shvatio što si točno mislio na linku. Koliko se sjećam razvoj je na privatnom gitu, ali se kod na kraju objavljuje.
Nije mislio nista, nego je poslao click bait naslov koji nema veze ni sa cime.
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For years now, Android has been developed in a way that allowed the public to look in on Google’s work, but that’s now changing as Google has just confirmed that it will start to develop the operating system entirely in its internal branch.
The Android Open Source Project (AOSP) has left most of Google’s work in developing Android as an operating system visible to the public eye. But, starting next week, Google is moving that work behind closed doors.
Google confirmed to Android Authority that “all Android development will occur within Google’s internal branches,” the publication says. This is a shift from how Android has been developed for a very long time, but also aligns with more recent moves Google has been making. For a while now, Google has been developing most parts of Android behind closed doors in its “internal branches,” with the “AOSP branch” only having certain other aspects of Android’s framework (including Bluetooth, kernel, and some other core components). As such, it’s been quite a while since the current state of AOSP is at the same level as Google’s internal builds, leaving developers and others to wait on Google to make a public release to get all of the new changes.
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Ali to nema veze sa AOSP projektom u smislu da bi Android postao "Closed Source".
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Staro 08.06.2025., 11:04   #154
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> 9to5google


Ali to nema veze sa AOSP projektom u smislu da bi Android postao "Closed Source".
Upravo to, sve više i više toga postaje closed source i zaključano. Google forsira svoja smeća od aplikacija kao što to radi Microsoft u Windowsima. Android kao takav je open source, ali što nam to vrijedi kad je bootloader closed source, modem firmware i drugi firmwarei također, hrpa Google aplikacija bez kojih većina radi komocije ne može ili ne zna staviti zamjenu (GMS, Play Store), zatim forsiranje permissiona od strane Googlea čime su mnogim open source aplikacijama ograničili funkcije itd. Danas kupiš moderan mobitel pa si s njim kao podstanar, imaš sve, a ne smiješ ništa i nikad ne znaš što "gazda" gleda i što može napraviti. A tek entertainment u autima, tj. sad je već puno više i gore od entertainmenta, bolje da ne idemo dalje.
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Upravo to, sve više i više toga postaje closed source i zaključano. Google forsira svoja smeća od aplikacija kao što to radi Microsoft u Windowsima. Android kao takav je open source, ali što nam to vrijedi kad je bootloader closed source, modem firmware i drugi firmwarei također, hrpa Google aplikacija bez kojih većina radi komocije ne može ili ne zna staviti zamjenu (GMS, Play Store), zatim forsiranje permissiona od strane Googlea čime su mnogim open source aplikacijama ograničili funkcije itd. Danas kupiš moderan mobitel pa si s njim kao podstanar, imaš sve, a ne smiješ ništa i nikad ne znaš što "gazda" gleda i što može napraviti. A tek entertainment u autima, tj. sad je već puno više i gore od entertainmenta, bolje da ne idemo dalje.

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This does not mean that Google is making Android a closed-source platform, but rather that the open-source aspect will only be released when a new branch is released to AOSP with those changes, including when new full versions or maintenance releases are finished.
In the end, users of Android almost certainly won’t see any changes from this new structure. App developers will also likely be unaffected. The biggest impact may be on the tidbits caught from AOSP that make their way into the public eye, such as the recent appearance of “Pixel 10” in an AOSP commit. That may be for the best, as those small tidbits can often be misconstrued or overhyped, leading to confusion later on.
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Možda nije closed source ali je svakako sve više i više zaključano. Zbog sigurnosti, jelte. Razni "obavezni" servisi isprepleteni kao pipci hobotnice koja je upala u veš mašinu.
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Staro 08.06.2025., 15:01   #158
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Poanta je da nije closed source, nego više raja nema live uvid u razvoj. I dalje tko želi može forkati ako želi i koristiti kod.
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Ima jedna dosta zeznuta činjenica a to je da Android i iOS mogu čitati i analizirati sadržaj ekrana. Taj “feature” već neko vrijeme postoji na svakom Android TVu “u svrhu boljeg profiliranja kod oglašavanja”….

Drugim riječima i da se potpuno izoliraš od ne znam čega operativni sustav zna što gledaš i slušaš. Dolaskom i proširivanjem AI funkcija na samim uređajima znat će bolje i preciznije a Apple već zna pratiti i u koji dio ekrana gledaš.

Među ostalim i iz tog razloga ne spajam nikad smart TV direktno na internet, nego HDMIjem na neki mali PC (Tiny, NUC, whatever) i onda na tom PCu vrtim Debian ili Mint za gledanje web sadržaja, streaminga i medijskih datoteka. Smart TVovi su postali jako invazivni, a postavka "please sell all my data" je postala default.
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Poanta je da nije closed source, nego više raja nema live uvid u razvoj. I dalje tko želi može forkati ako želi i koristiti kod.

Yep - i upravo to je snaga Open Source-a (barem po GPL-u). Kome se ne sviđa može forkat kod iz postojećeg branch-a i skalupit svoju AOSP verziju - u teoriji barem. Nekaj tipa Red Hat i Rocky Linux/Alma Linux na primjer. To što isto zahtjeva malo više znanja i vremena je drugi par rukava.
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Hehe, da. Već neko vrijeme i njihovi daljinci imaju uši

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Yep - i upravo to je snaga Open Source-a (barem po GPL-u). Kome se ne sviđa može forkat kod iz postojećeg branch-a i skalupit svoju AOSP verziju - u teoriji barem. Nekaj tipa Red Hat i Rocky Linux/Alma Linux na primjer. To što isto zahtjeva malo više znanja i vremena je drugi par rukava.
To je kao da imaš svu dokumentaciju, nacrte i radne strojeve za graditi zgradu i netko ti kaže: “evo, možeš si sam sve napraviti”.

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Hehe, da. Već neko vrijeme i njihovi daljinci imaju uši


To je kao da imaš svu dokumentaciju, nacrte i radne strojeve za graditi zgradu i netko ti kaže: “evo, možeš si sam sve napraviti”.

Right…

Yep. Pa ne radiš zgradu. Sve se svodi na obujam softwera i kapacitete individue/teama koji želi to preuzeti u svoje ruke. Alternativa je naravno gunđanje na forumu ili prihvaćanje situacije kakva je.
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https://firewalla.com/products/firew..._wzROc_L1watxa


Djeluje zanimljivo za sad, osvrnem se malo više nakon testiranja.
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Yep. Pa ne radiš zgradu. Sve se svodi na obujam softwera i kapacitete individue/teama koji želi to preuzeti u svoje ruke. Alternativa je naravno gunđanje na forumu ili prihvaćanje situacije kakva je.

Nije to alternativa nego jedini izbor za 90% korisnika. Customfw,opensource,bootloader, root access i slicno su pojmovi koja je poznata u 1% korisnika. Svi ostali nemaju izbora. Ili jesi u digi svijetu i na taj nacin svjesno/nesvjesno dijelis info, ili nisi. Sredine nema.

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: spawn. 09.06.2025. u 14:45.
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Krivo si shvatio.
Nije shvatio trivijalan tekst, ali "Kako su krojači novog svjetskog poretka uspjeli u tako kratko vrijeme slomiti intelektualne sposobnosti društva, uništiti kritičku svijest i ljudima nametnuti izvrnutu logiku?"...

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Možda nije closed source ali je svakako sve više i više zaključano. Zbog sigurnosti, jelte. Razni "obavezni" servisi isprepleteni kao pipci hobotnice koja je upala u veš mašinu.
Baziras ovaj ekspertni komentar na dugogodisnjem iskustvu buildanja Androida ili si ga poslovicno izvukao... iz sesira?

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Nije to alternativa nego jedini izbor za 90% korisnika. Customfw,opensource,bootloader, root access i slicno su pojmovi koja je poznata u 1% korisnika. Svi ostali nemaju izbora. Ili jesi u digi svijetu i na taj nacin svjesno/nesvjesno dijelis info, ili nisi. Sredine nema.
99% korisnika nije culo za ovo sto spominjes, a od ovih 1%, vjerojatno opet 99% nema znanja/volje/zelje/mogucnosti baviti se time.

Kao sto sam toliko puta rekao - niti jedna od tih usluga nije obvezna ili zivotno kriticna, tako da je kuknjava kao i obicno - besplodna.
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Baziras ovaj ekspertni komentar na dugogodisnjem iskustvu buildanja Androida ili si ga poslovicno izvukao... iz sesira?
Naravno da ne pišem u buildanju. Slobodno odjaši u suton.
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Naravno da ne pišem u buildanju.
Ja zaista obozavam vas forumske troglodite. Dozvoli:

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Možda nije closed source ali je svakako sve više i više zaključano.
Mozes nam objasniti sto znaci da nesto nije closed source ali je sve vise i vise zakljucano? Sto znaci "biti zakljucan"?

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Zbog sigurnosti, jelte. Razni "obavezni" servisi isprepleteni kao pipci hobotnice koja je upala u veš mašinu.
Mozes nam objasniti koji su to "obavezni" (i sto ih cini "obaveznim" naspram, jel... obaveznih) servisi koji su isprepleteni kao... ok, ovo mi se neda niti prepisivati. Sto znam, nabroji nam 7... 5... ma i 3 "obavezna" sigurnosna servisa koji ti svojom isprepletenoscu kvare san. Ne moras nam cak niti objasnjavati sto rade, ja svakako nisam na razini da to shvatim, ali sam siguran da postoji interesna skupina mladih entuzijasata koja bi rade volje saznala nesto vise o tome od tebe.

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Nije shvatio trivijalan tekst, ali "Kako su krojači novog svjetskog poretka uspjeli u tako kratko vrijeme slomiti intelektualne sposobnosti društva, uništiti kritičku svijest i ljudima nametnuti izvrnutu logiku?"...
Da, nećemo vam sada pokazati source code, ali hoćemo kasnije, časna pionirska, kad pokradu i prodaju sve moguće podatke. To mi dođe kao otkrivanje tajnih dokumenata za spasonosni pripravak, prvo bilo 70 ili koliko već godina, sad su smanjili, ali i dalje predugo za nešto toliko značajno, skupo, poželjno,...
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ja sam builda Android nebrojeno puta, štoviše, vrlo vjerojatno ste i instalirali moj rom na Samsung S2, LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, pitajte što vas zanima.

Da li su google servisi neophodni? - Nisu.

Da li se mora buildati sa prekompiled enkripted datotekama? - Ne mora.

Da li će raditi i bez toga? Hoće, ali ima par slučajeva. GPS možete koristiti kroz gugletov api, pa samo dajete driver, a koristi se njihov API ili možete napisati svoj API.
Mobile network - možete koristiti kroz gugletov api, vi samo provideati driver ili, napišete svoj api, koji mora zadovoljiti dokumentaciju da bi se moglo kompajlirati.

bilo je tako par slučajeva, googletovo možete koristiti radi jednostavnosti, ali ništa te apsolutno ne sprječava da napišeš svoj API za sve, što sam više puta i radija, jer svaki driver ima svoje mušice, pogotovo Tegra jebena od nVidie. Još imam PTSP od nje.
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Što bi bubica bio bez svoje publike i dupelizaca Ja nisam ništa komentirao vezano za kompajliranje androida jer o tome pojma nemam, nego bubimir mora odraditi supstituciju argumenata da ponekad i pobijedi (u svojim očima) u upravo infantilnim raspravama koje često potiče.

Ja na telefon s androidom gledam kao korisnik nivoa 3 od 5 koji sam uređaj ne odvaja od operativnog jer i tako oni dolaze skupa, a opcije stavljanja drugog operativnog (ali uvijek androida) su dosta limitirane, ponekad i nepostojeće.

1. ako uređaj ima zaključan bootloader, uređaj je zaključan u vidu mogućnosti izvođenja određenih promjena. Samo za bubimira prilažem link na školski rječnik, ipak je to dosta teška riječ za forumske trolove
https://rjecnik.hr/search.php?q=zaklju%C4%8Dati

U ovom kontekstu "zaključati" znači kako je vlasnik uređaja odvojen od punog pristupa uređaju kojeg je kupio, uglavnom zbog vlastite sigurnosti, odnosno kako bi bio zaštićen od samog sebe. To se doslovno tako zove, zaključan bootloader. Još jednom:https://rjecnik.hr/search.php?q=zaklju%C4%8Dati

Otključavanje bootloadera može i ne mora biti moguće; ponekad je trivijalno, druge pute gnjavaža i ovisi o proizvođaču. U pravilu otključavanje rezultira gubitkom garancije i neke aplikacije budu vjerojatno radile probleme oko toga. Fintech naročito.

Proizvođač u ROM također može dodati "obavezne" aplikacije prema vlastitom nahođenju, deinstalaciju kojih neće dopustiti vlasniku uređaja. Time je opet korisnik djelomično odvojen od mogućnosti upravljanja vlastitom imovinom. I opet zbog vlastite sigurnosti. Jasno mi je da deinstaliranje nekih aplikacija, ako se isto dopusti, može rezultirati lijepim sranjem, npr. jedina tipkovnica.

Rootanje će riješiti taj problem, ali to samo po sebi zahtjeva otključan bootloader i vodi prema nizu komplikacija, s Fintech aplikacijama naročito. Sve zbog sigurnosti, naravno. Rootanje je stvarno poprilična gnjavaža za nekoga tko želi koristi kupljeni telefon uz minimum komplikacija.

2. Google SafetyNet. Naravno, opet je to pitanje sigurnosti (sigurna mreža, jelte) i zaštite korisnika od samog sebe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/c...net_and_other/

Sve je ovo vjerojatno dovoljno dobro za 99% korisnika koji i tako koriste mobitel na jednako sofisticiran način na koji koriste daljinski od televizora ili klime. I naravno da te aplikacije koje zahtijevaju npr. SafetyNet a koje neće raditi na uređajima koji ne zadovoljavaju uvjete za isti su opcionalne. I posjedovanje uređaja je opcionalno.

Ali to ne znači kako je korištenje uređaja i operativnog sustava u paketu slobodno kao što bi vlasnik uređaja mogao očekivati. Vlasnik je platio uređaj i u posjedu je istog, ali je vlasnik odvojen od dijela funkcionalnosti uređaja zato jer je ista zaključana (vidi link gore). Pritom možda postoje neka zaobilazna rješenja, međutim aplikacija istih (u očima većine korisnika) traži neproporcionalan trud prema ostvarenom dobitku. Pogotovo što dobitak predstavlja ostvarivanje punog pristupa funkcionalnosti zaobilaženjem umjetno nanesenih ograničenja uz potrebu dodatne aplikacije rješenja kako bi se i dalje mogle koristiti one aplikacije koje su sposobne detektirati root, otključan bootloader, itd.

Ovo je moja špekulacija, ali za očekivati je da biometrija bude dodana kao obavezna u sigurnosnu mrežu, naravno zbog sigurnosti. I vjerojatno niti 1% od onih preostalih 1% korisnika ne bude s time imalo problem.

Pa fino red centraliziranih digitalnih valuta programabilnih svojstava (digitalne valute, za razliku od gotovine, ne prenose kovid, a zna se da ima puno vas idiota koji ste gaće napunili oko toga tako da će vam ovo biti jako privlačno), pa fino red cjepnog statusa (ako si se ti roknuo 4 puta, mora i susjed *ebo mu pas mater bakoubulačku), pa red dopuštenih i nedopuštenih geografskih lokacija, pa red socijalnog statusa... Samo špekulacije, naravno.

Hobotnica služi samo za salatu, ali vjerojatno ne ovom prascu. Isprike prascima.
https://odysee.com/@eternaljew:0/agustincarstens:9

I na kraju bude to sve ista priča kao i inače. Za vas s određenim stupnjem retardacije, slovkat ću jedan recentan primjer: "chemtrails".

Prva faza, u medijskom prostoru se sipa drvlje i kamenje po svakome tko spominje tu temu. U drugoj fazi se pomalo (čak i na indeksu) počinje pisati kako se to ipak radi ali kako to nije ono što tvrde ludi teoretičari, nego je to ipak nešto sasvim drugo.

U trećoj fazi izlazi kako se ipak nešto konkretno dodaje (mislim da je to bio srebrni jodid u ovom slučaju od lani?) i ne samo da se dodaje nego se to i mora činiti, prema kojim već EU direktivama. I ta informacija izađe u neteoretičarskim medijima iz usta meteorologa, dok se paralelno raspravlja o opasnosti nastanka devastirajuće tuče zbog primjene tog jodida, jelte.

Ali to nema veze, jer u ovom našem podneblju nije devastirajuće tuče bilo dobrih mjesec ili dva. I nije u pitanju devastirajuća tuča ako ne padaju komadi veličine lubenice.

Evo za kraj i rječnik s kontekstom. Bog neka vam je na ispomoći.
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Da, nećemo vam sada pokazati source code, ali hoćemo kasnije, časna pionirska,
Ovo vise nije niti smijesno.

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i prodaju sve moguće podatke.
Gdje se to moze kupiti, BTW?

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ja sam builda Android nebrojeno puta
Drzniče!

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Ja nisam ništa komentirao vezano za kompajliranje androida
Nitko niti nije, ali hej... Uvijek cemo rado saslusati tvoj audit ipak otvorenog koda.

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FTFY.

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nego bubimir mora odraditi supstituciju argumenata da ponekad i pobijedi (u svojim očima) u upravo infantilnim raspravama koje često potiče.
Doslovce sam citirao tvoj tekst, no dobro.

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Ja na telefon s androidom gledam kao korisnik nivoa 3 od 5
Gdje je 5 maksimalan IQ a ti si na 3? Ima smisla.

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1. ako uređaj ima zaključan bootloader, uređaj je zaključan
Aha, kuzim, vi na nivou IQ 3 niste spoznali da "zakljucani bootloader" nema veze s OS-om?

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Ovo je zapravo slatko - ti si kao LLM kada mu ponestane tokena. Haluciniras, ali je donekle simpaticno. <3

Nikada nisam, pa necu niti sada napraviti iznimku, no da ti osvjezim kontekst - i da, znam da je beskorisno, ali svejedno - bootloader != OS.

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Ali to ne znači kako je korištenje uređaja i operativnog sustava u paketu slobodno kao što bi vlasnik uređaja mogao očekivati.
Sto te sprijecava da napravis vlastiti uredjaj i operativni sustav u paketu i prodajes ga "oslobodjenim" kao sto bi "vlasnik uredjaja mogao ocekivati"?

Dobro, odgovor se namece kada covjek isprati do tri tvoja posta, ali jos jedan newsflash - brkas vlasnistvo s pravom na koristenje necijeg tudjeg (intelektualnog) vlasnistva (sto, ruku na srce, za kapacitet kojeg imamo na uvid, nije neocekivano); a dodatno, "vlasnik" uredjaja najcesce ocekuje da uredjaj radi kako je zamisljen i apsolutno mu puca kurac za ostale detalje.

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Pogotovo što dobitak predstavlja ostvarivanje punog pristupa funkcionalnosti
Prosvijetli nas, koja to "puna funkcionalnost" tebi nedostaje?

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Ovo je moja špekulacija, ali za očekivati je da biometrija bude dodana kao obavezna u sigurnosnu mrežu, naravno zbog sigurnosti. I vjerojatno niti 1% od onih preostalih 1% korisnika ne bude s time imalo problem.
Kamo srece, onda necemo morati citati postove tebe i tebi slicnih kako vam je netko hakirao Fejzbuk stranicu "Ravnozemljasi diljem zemaljske kugle - ujedinite se".

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Bogati, vidim da slabo provjeravaju koga pustaju za vikend.

PS nemoj skociti s ruba Zemlje kada otkrijes da su tvoji "zakljucani" mobiteli blage rijeci Davida Ickea naspram toga na sto lice neki drugi ugradbeni uredjaji, a tek kada shvatis sto ti sve sprema tvoj najobicniji PC, uf uf uf...

PPS https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jad.12316

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The six included articles show that conspiracy theory beliefs are present from the start of adolescence, and stable from age 14 upwards, with correlations reported for mistrust and paranoid thinking. Negative relationships were reported for cognitive factors such as ontological confusion, cognitive ability, and actively open-minded thinking. Health-related beliefs correlated with adverse childhood experiences, peer problems, conduct, and sociodemographic factors. Right-wing authoritarianism and anxiety positively correlated with intergroup conspiracy theory beliefs.
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Yep. Pa ne radiš zgradu. Sve se svodi na obujam softwera i kapacitete individue/teama koji želi to preuzeti u svoje ruke. Alternativa je naravno gunđanje na forumu ili prihvaćanje situacije kakva je.

Da li si zakompajlirao svoj Android nakon što si ga privacy-customizirao i stavio ga na mobitel, tablet, PC…. I ako nisi, zašto nisi?
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Da li si zakompajlirao svoj Android nakon što si ga privacy-customizirao i stavio ga na mobitel, tablet, PC…. I ako nisi, zašto nisi?

Jer sam lijen za tak nekaj. Eto zašto. Zato što postoje drugi koji su to već napravili (Lineage OS i slični?). Eto zašto.
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Jer sam lijen za tak nekaj. Eto zašto. Zato što postoje drugi koji su to već napravili (Lineage OS i slični?). Eto zašto.

LinageOS je nastao iz CM koji imaju povijest špijuniranja i prikupljanja tuđih podataka kroz bugove u fwu. Naslijedio ga je Oneplus, UI. Tek kasnije se saznalo ali pojeo vuk magare. Ali sve više me hvata bmk .
Anyways, if you want the best signs buy at Tonys at LCSIGN

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Staro 10.06.2025., 22:36   #177
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A jeste vidili ovaj:
https://www.zeropartydata.es/p/local...ained-it-could

Tko je ovo smislija je genije, ali ovo je za zatvor.
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Staro 10.06.2025., 23:13   #178
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You’re not affected if (and only if)

-You access Facebook and Instagram via the web, without having the apps installed on your phone
-You browse on desktop computers or use iOS (iPhones)
-You always used the Brave browser or the DuckDuckGo search engine on mobile
Dignite ruke tko radi točno to i čekajte kad u dogledno vrijeme izađe njuz, web fejbuk,ios, brave and duck affected too
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Lako za to, ruke u zrak tko uopće nema sporne Meta, Facebook i Instagram profile i popratne mobilne aplikacije koji su nužni za pozadinski localhost tracking.
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Jer sam lijen za tak nekaj. Eto zašto. Zato što postoje drugi koji su to već napravili (Lineage OS i slični?). Eto zašto.

Ali kad bi ti se dalo onda bi to uspješno napravio, zar ne? Na kraju krajeva tko se malo potrudi umjesto da njurga po forumu mogao bi, right?

Kao da svatko može sebi customizirati i zakompajlirati Androida i staviti si na mobitel. Ne zaboravi da taj konkretan mobitel treba biti funkcionalan.
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