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Staro 15.05.2025., 09:27   #361
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Imam par pitanja oko ove serije 9070 vs 9070xt ako mi možete savjetovati. Razmišljam u SFF kučište staviti jednu od te dvije...pokušavam vidjeti pluseve i minuse.

1. da li je xt verzija samo nabrijana 9070 ili je razlika i u samoj arhitekturi?
2. Ima li netko info da li 9070 xt ima kvalitetnije (tiše) ventilatore u odnosu na 9070 ili je to jedna te ista stvar? (otvoren sam i za kombinaciju undervoltanja jače kartice ako se potrošnjom može spustiti u rang 9070 a performansama još biti iznad obične)
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XT model je samo jača verzija, dok su po pitanju RDNA 4 arhitekture obje kartice identične, jer koriste istu stvar, ali je obična RX 9070 "razvodnjena" verzija čipa. Kaj se hlađenja u SFF režimu tiče, provjeri dual-slot modele, jer većina proizvođača ima solidno složene coolere, samo je za SFF namjenu bitna dimenzija kartice, tak da kasnije ne moraš voditi brigu oko toga.
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The Navi 48 silicon physically has 64 CU spread across 4 shader engines. With each CU containing 64 stream processors, the chip has a total of 4,096 stream processors. All 64 CU are enabled on the RX 9070 XT, while the RX 9070 has 56 out of 64 of them enabled. The maxed-out Navi 48 contains 4,096 stream processors, 128 AI accelerators, 64 RT accelerators, 256 TMUs, and 128 ROPs. The chip also features 64 MB of 3rd Gen Infinity Cache, and a 256-bit wide GDDR6 memory interface, driving 16 GB of 20 Gbps memory on both the RX 9070 XT and RX 9070. With 56 CU enabled on the RX 9070, it has 3,584 stream processors, 112 AI accelerators, 56 RT accelerators, 224 TMUs, and an untouched ROP count of 128, besides the exact same memory configuration as the RX 9070 XT.
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Staro 15.05.2025., 11:01   #363
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XT model je samo jača verzija, dok su po pitanju RDNA 4 arhitekture obje kartice identične, jer koriste istu stvar, ali je obična RX 9070 "razvodnjena" verzija čipa. Kaj se hlađenja u SFF režimu tiče, provjeri dual-slot modele, jer većina proizvođača ima solidno složene coolere, samo je za SFF namjenu bitna dimenzija kartice, tak da kasnije ne moraš voditi brigu oko toga.
Ok, hvala ti, ima smisla.
Dakle referentni dizajn je na xt verziji, obicna jednostavno ne koristi sve mogucnosti. Hvala
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Staro 15.05.2025., 12:35   #364
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Stock ide do 1400 rpm na 305w i do 55c
Undervolt, 220w na 1300rpm je 46c, na 1200rpm je 49c
Na 335w ide do 1600rpm- 44% 56c
Prije ću krepati nego shvatiti, što znači ovih 44%?
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Staro 15.05.2025., 12:53   #365
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Staro 15.05.2025., 13:09   #366
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1600rpm=44%
tipa kad se upali afterburner i gleda na njega
Na 100% biče ide 2300rpm ?
To ki u mene normalno boeing polijeće kad renda nešto

Poslano sa mog SM-S918B koristeći Tapatalk
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Staro 15.05.2025., 14:09   #367
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To mi je palo na pamet, nego je onda 1600/0.44 malo bez veze brojka, ali bit će zaokruženo 3600 RPM onda.
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AMD announces FSR Redstone for RDNA 4: Neural Radiance Caching, ML Ray Regeneration and Frame Generation
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At Computex, AMD has presented an evolution of its FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) technology. FSR 4, which debuted alongside the Radeon RX 9070 series, was just a chapter, and AMD is now looking to leverage machine learning and other technologies to deliver an even better experience for gamers. The next step is FSR Redstone, a new version of super resolution and frame generation. This version will focus on three key features: Neural Radiance Caching, machine learning–accelerated Ray Regeneration, and machine learning–accelerated Frame Generation. Neural Radiance Caching is designed to predict where indirect lighting will bounce in a scene, reducing the need for full path tracing. Ray Regeneration is similar to what nVidia offers with DLSS 3.5—an AI algorithm that reduces the complexity required for ray-traced scenes. The scene is then upscaled using super resolution and followed by frame generation. FSR Redstone is officially scheduled to launch in the second half of this year. AMD has not provided specific dates, likely because the technology is still in development and they want to ensure it is as polished as possible.
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Meh, ovo je apsolutno bzvz grafa, totalna stagnacija. Dobro za nekog ko upgradea 2060 ili starije. A 9070 GRE je vidim cca 7900 GRE..vj bolji RT, ali -4gb VRAM.
Ima AMD puno nVidiae u sebi reklo bi se.
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Staro 05.06.2025., 16:48   #373
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A očito je da žele jahati na FSR4 "hajpu" koji bi trebao biti bonus a ne osnovna vrijednost.
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Staro 05.06.2025., 23:37   #375
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Bolje onda 7800XT. AMD je to malo krivo posložio, ako je upscale najbitnija stavka onda se neće uopće kupovat AMD nego ono drugo
Taj 9060XT mi nema smisla nikakvog, ni onaj sa 8GB ni onaj sa 16.
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Ima AMD puno nVidiae u sebi reklo bi se.
Itekak, a ovaj bedak Frank Azor je idealni kandidat za otkaz nakon svih njegovih sranja s medijima, bilo na raznim događanjima uživo, bilo putem društvenih mreža.
9060 XT 8GB = BAD! Watch before you buy
I da stvar bude bolja, RX 9070 XT neki dan za 639€, tak da RX 9060 XT cjenovno ispada još ljepša situacija.
RX 9060 XT 16GB - 40 GAMES at 1440P
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Bolje onda 7800XT. AMD je to malo krivo posložio, ako je upscale najbitnija stavka onda se neće uopće kupovat AMD nego ono drugo
Taj 9060XT mi nema smisla nikakvog, ni onaj sa 8GB ni onaj sa 16.
Da Intel ima vise smisla u tom slucaju

Past ce to i kod nas blizu 400 eura jako brzo..
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RX 9070 XT za 640 € bi si razmislio, čisto iz principa da se osjećam kao fer klijent a ne ovca za šišanje.
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vec su po 720e u svabiji, ide to dole pomalo

mislim da je 740e za top model kao red devil dobra kupnja, uvjek cu rado dati 100e vise za tihu i hladnu grafu, mada tih 640 bi bilo super za bilo koju verziju, ili 500ak za non xt verzije
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9070/XT su ti sve tihe i hladne. Jedini problem sa time je što se kod nekih tj skoro pa većine VRAM kuha. Nedavno je bila vjest da se na XT ugrađuje bolji VRAM koji se manje grije i za 10 stupnjeva, ali to je vj lutrija. Normalne temp VRAMa na 9070 serije su 80-90+ stupnjeva. I isto tako je normalno da je cca 30 stupnjeva razlika između hotspota i GPU temp.

Jave se ljudi na redditu koji sa modelom X imaju dobre temp za VRAM (70-80 stupnjeva), pa se onda jave i oni sa istim modelom i visokim temp....silikonska lutrija.
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3.5 slota debele grafe nemaju tolko vrucu memoriju i hot spot kao 2.5 modeli.

Kod mene je vram na 82, hot spot 75c, gpu 55,56...
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Kaj se memorije i temperature tiče, većina modela ima SK Hynix H56G42AS8DX-014 i prema specifikacijama ~85°C je čist normalna temperatura, ali ionak ovisi o proizvođaču i modelu kartice, odnosno implementiranom hlađenju. Po pitanju GPU temperature, većina (Sapphire, PowerColor, ASRock, XFX) tvornički koristi Honeywell PTM7950, tak da tu nema neke prevelike brige. Još samo da daju otkaz onom PR marketing Frank Azor guruu, pa da se donekle riješe sramote koju taj jedan nadobudni lik iz godine u godinu uspije staviti u pravi plan.
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Reklo bi se da je ovo OK cijena u susjedstvu...

Hellhound 9070 vulgaris za 614€.

Vidim počele su lagano ispod MSRP (kod nas naravno ni blizu MSRP)....ima ih previše...il su u šumi...?
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Sad kad sam vidio tu cijenu ne bi kupio skuplje taman mi bila životno potrebna
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Ne znam kaj je AMD-u trebala 8 gb vram kartica nakon što intrent nabija nvidiju dva metra ispod zemlje zbog 8 gb vrama
ovaj test pokazuje koliko je to epsko sranje od proizvoda...kao nekad 64 bitne sabirnice pored 128 ali povijest se stalno ponavlja...sad sam već i ljut
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Kad su budale i onda ovu zapravo RX 9050 karticu prepakiraju tak da se OEM društvo lakše namiri, pa sad imaju isti efeket ko i nVidia, dok ih se (jedne i druge) nemilosrdno ismijava.
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Je, ismijava ih se....dok njima lovica sjeda na račun.
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Staro 11.06.2025., 15:26   #389
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