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Staro 28.05.2025., 18:33   #61
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EU planira uvođenje naknade od 2 eura po paketu za male pakete iz Kine
Sad sam ja kriv što si se našao prozvanim u mojem tekstu :nodrug:

Anyways, naravno da će auti kod nas biti skupi. Pa da su jeftini kao u Kini svaki član obitelji bi valjda imao dva auta! Ne mogu ih oni proizvest koliko nama treba. Jbt ne bi mogao izaći s parkinga koliko bi auta bilo na cesti.

I sa ovim all-time-high cijenama kupujemo više auta nego prije korone (+15% više registracija godišnje umjesto prijašnjih +10% godišnje).

A di tek neće ljudi masovno kupovati paketiće od par ojra.
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Staro 28.05.2025., 20:01   #62
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A di tek neće ljudi masovno kupovati paketiće od par ojra.

Heh, da su samo paketići u igri.
Ova vijest baca novo svijetlo na cijelu kontroverzu o (pre)visokim cijenama u hrvatistanu a bogami i na tradicionalno kukanje tu na forumu kak je BF ponovno zakurac.
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Staro 29.05.2025., 17:35   #63
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Heh, da su samo paketići u igri.
Ova vijest baca novo svijetlo na cijelu kontroverzu o (pre)visokim cijenama u hrvatistanu a bogami i na tradicionalno kukanje tu na forumu kak je BF ponovno zakurac.

Pravi si partibrejker.
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Staro 29.05.2025., 22:39   #64
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To je tako, nego ne primjećujemo. Osvanuli mi euri na računu nego ih ja ne primjećujem. /bad
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Staro 30.05.2025., 00:49   #65
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Ako zelis eure na racunu moras ih tamo i staviti. Preko foruma vjerojatno ne ide.
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Staro 30.05.2025., 21:14   #66
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Mogu ih staviti tamo sam a mogu mi ih i uplatiti, ipak standard ide vrtoglavo gore.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 30.05.2025., 22:21   #67
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https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/...ti_najnovije_d
EU se bas trudi svim silama oderati nam kozu. 2027. ide i namet na gorivo. Nema kraja poskupljenjima.
A zanimljivo da najvise paketa per capita ima non EU zemlja, Velika Britanija. Mi smo debelo ispod prosjeka.
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EU se bas trudi svim silama oderati nam kozu. 2027. ide i namet na gorivo. Nema kraja poskupljenjima.
A zanimljivo da najvise paketa per capita ima non EU zemlja, Velika Britanija. Mi smo debelo ispod prosjeka.
A gle... koliko samo kosta Ukrajina.
Netko to mora platiti. A to nece biti 'oni'.
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A gle... koliko samo kosta Ukrajina.
Netko to mora platiti. A to nece biti 'oni'.
Na stranu Ukrajina i teorije na sto se trose novci, pretpostavljam da ti ne smeta kolko smo mi para posisali iz EU proracuna? "Oni" su to morali platiti, tkogod da to bio
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rendula, a da li tebi smeta koliko je EU proracun posisao od nas?
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rendula, a da li tebi smeta koliko je EU proracun posisao od nas?
Puno manje nego mi iz njega (ako se ne varam, dosad smo dobili otprilike 4x koliko smo uplatili).
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Ako se ja ne varam, uplatili smo puno više nego smo izvukli van. Pojma nemam šta je istina, ali tu su informaciju u nekoliko navrata čupali iz novinara koji bi onda priznali da je tome tako ali bi na kraju optužili "one" da nisu bili sposobni sredstva povući iz tih velebnih fondova.

U svakom slučaju, ako imaš x članica neke organizacije i jednog sa strane koji nije član, onda trošenje zajedničkih sredstava (prikupljenih od strane članica + ogromna zaduženja na ime idućih generacija) na tog jednog nije ista kategorija kao trošenja sredstava na bilo kojeg od x članova.

To bi trebalo biti očito, ali očito da nije pa eto napominjem.

Naročito kada taj koji nije član ima određeni problem kojeg nije niti morao imati odnosno ima problem kojeg se odavno mirnim putem moglo privesti kraju. Ali očito da su "oni" imali neke druge planove. I stoga Nickov komentar stoji čvrsto k'o stijena na Braču.
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Sve je dobro, samo dok nitko ne povezuje friško naštampani covid i ostali "novac" koji smo "dobili" sa određenim nesretnim popratnim efektima poput inflacije. To je ionako zbog trgovačke pohlepe, nije monetarni fenomen
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Ako se ja ne varam, uplatili smo puno više nego smo izvukli van..
Varas se. Eto bilo je jednostavno izguglati, dosad smo uplatili manje od 6 milijardi, a povukli 22.
Izmedju svih ostalih natjecaja, eto pola Zagreba je obnovljeno sa EU novcima. Panika ce biti 2027. kad presusi najbolja pipa.
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Je li izvor te informacije faktograf Kako bilo, kao što sam i napisao, te dvije kategorije su odvojene i tvoj komentar gore je bio deplasiran. Ja sam možda prevelik cinik da bih vjerovao kako bi nam uplatiti plus 16 milijardi, eto, tako, iz dobrote dok ekipa puca po šavovima.

Što se tiče ovog šta Exy spominje, pa jasno je valjda i vrapcima na grani da je Putin uzrokovao inflaciju.
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Ako se ja ne varam, uplatili smo puno više.
Varaš se i to jako. Pusti svoje teorije zavjere.

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Naročito kada taj koji nije član ima određeni problem kojeg nije niti morao imati odnosno ima problem kojeg se odavno mirnim putem moglo privesti kraju.
Tako je govorio Slobodan Milošević...

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Dobili smo vise, ali to je sve potroseno na gluposti, a ne na razvoj. Kad se zavrne pipa biti ce veselo. A i ici ce porezi gore, jer se jos nije poceo otplacivati kredit za Covid, a da ne pricam o novim planovima za obranu, Ukrainu ili napuhanom proracunu.
Sve ce se to nadoknaditi jos visim porezima i nametima kao sto je ovaj od 10% carine.

Portugalci su tako digli ekonomiju, vjerojatno su isto kao mi trosili na gluposti, digli su se ekonomski i sad stoje na mjestu, nema vise rasta do iduce krize kad ce korekcija na dolje.
I naravno dok Njemacka ekonomija ne puknu, pa kazu Njemacka na prvom mjestu, zasto bi mi placali za ostale u EU.
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Udarniče, pa šta ti uspoređuješ raspad Jugoslavije sa situacijom gdje je rat između Rusije i Ukrajine, dvije odvojene države, mogao biti okončan primirjem pred nekoliko godina i prije bog te pita koliko desetaka ili stotina hiljada ubijenih? Eto, svaki dan moramo gluparije čitati na internetima.

Da i ne spominjem da to sranje u Ukrajini bez majdana ne bi niti postojalo. Vjerojatno su i za to krivi Milošević i Putin. I ono kada je debela Viktorija kazala "jebeš EU mi ćemo postaviti predsjednika", to je isto kriv Putin. Ili Milošević?

Pišeš gluposti, pamćenje te slabo služi, mani se ćorava posla. Jasno je kao dan dan je tim luđacima stalo do Ukrajine i Ukrajinaca koliko je crnog pod noktom. Sve im to služi isključivo i jedino za destabilizaciju Rusije. Dobro, ima nešto i rasturanju eurozone nepotrebno visokim cijenama energenata. A od Ukrajine što će ostati na kraju, koga boli kurac. Spaljena zemlja. Bitno da se borimo protiv Putina. Možda ne baš "mi", netko drugi.

Ja ne kažem da je Putin zlatan, govorim da su Ukrajinci i Rusi (u ovom slučaju) pijuni koje se u velikim brojevima šalje na stratište. Bilo je ranije više opcija za primirje ali džaba rata ako kratko traje. Kada od kovida umre hiljadu to je histerija, a kada u nepotrebnom ratu strada pola miliona, šta se može. Koliko ih stvarno stradalo, ne znam, plasirali su se svakakvi katastrofalni brojevi u medijskom prostoru.

Tih 16+ milijardi je došlo na ime čega i s kojim uvjetima? Koliko je milijardi natučeno za vrijeme kovida, kako reče gospodin guverner, ex nihilo? Biti će da je i to teorija zavjere. Kada krene iduća runda "austerity measures" bude opet neki novi rat pa će njih za to optužiti. Kao šta su Putina optužili za inflaciju.

Davno su ovo dečki složili, ali mnogi i dalje nisu skopčali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdQsw9T3kI
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