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Staro 14.05.2025., 06:04   #5911
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At the start of this year, Microsoft announced that, alongside the end of support for Windows 10, it would also end support for Office 365 (it’s called Microsoft 365 now but that makes no sense to me) on Windows 10 around the same time. The various Office applications would continue to work on Windows 10, of course, but would no longer receive bug fixes, security plugs, and so on. Well, it seems Microsoft experienced some pushback on this one, because it just extended this end-of-support deadline for Office 365 on Windows 10 by an additional three years.

To help maintain security while you transition to Windows 11, Microsoft will continue providing security updates for Microsoft 365 Apps on Windows 10 for three years after Windows 10 reaches end of support. These updates will be delivered through the standard update channels, ending on October 10, 2028.

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Staro 23.05.2025., 13:38   #5912
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Za Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 podrška je do 2029?
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Staro 23.05.2025., 14:55   #5913
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Staro 23.05.2025., 17:49   #5914
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Na T580 je 10-ka počela dr*ati... Prvo uporno hoće instalirati neki update, a ne vidim koji, napiše samo low disk space, a ima 30 GB slobodno. Čudno mi je i da sistemska particija ne pada ispod 100 GB iskorištenog prostora, a ništa od osobnih fileova nije na njoj. Ako oduzmem 30 GB za hibernation i page file, 70 GB je i dalje puno. Preko GP sam ubio upgrade na 11, ali i dalje ga stalno nudi. To izgleda namjerno sabotiraju kako bi se prešlo na 11-icu...
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Staro 23.05.2025., 19:25   #5915
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Je li to relativno friška instalacija? Svaki update hoće dosta napuhati system32 pošto dodaje razne verzije fajlova. Zagasi hibernaciju da to eliminiraš. Koja je windows alternativa ncdu
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Staro 23.05.2025., 19:53   #5916
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Na T580 je 10-ka počela dr*ati... Prvo uporno hoće instalirati neki update, a ne vidim koji, napiše samo low disk space, a ima 30 GB slobodno. Čudno mi je i da sistemska particija ne pada ispod 100 GB iskorištenog prostora, a ništa od osobnih fileova nije na njoj. Ako oduzmem 30 GB za hibernation i page file, 70 GB je i dalje puno. Preko GP sam ubio upgrade na 11, ali i dalje ga stalno nudi. To izgleda namjerno sabotiraju kako bi se prešlo na 11-icu...

Također provjeri dal ti je uključen reserved storage, možda je do toga.
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Staro 23.05.2025., 20:22   #5917
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Je li to relativno friška instalacija? Svaki update hoće dosta napuhati system32 pošto dodaje razne verzije fajlova. Zagasi hibernaciju da to eliminiraš. Koja je windows alternativa ncdu
Nije, instalirano prije koju godinu i do nedavno je sve bilo u redu, ništa novo nije dodavano, sad odjednom nema mjesta. Odradio full disk cleanup, sve one dism cleanupe, obrisao software distribution i opet ne pada ispod 100 GB. Treba hibernacija jer je laptop u pitanju.

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Također provjeri dal ti je uključen reserved storage, možda je do toga.
Uključen je, uzima 5,31 GB. Znači, ima 30 GB i još extra tih 5,31 GB i nije dovoljno za instalaciju nego svako malo baca ovaj pop-up...

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Staro 23.05.2025., 22:29   #5918
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nije dovoljno za instalaciju nego svako malo baca ovaj pop-up...
Kompletno resetiraj/ocisti windows update, imas tutorijala po netu gro.
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Staro 23.05.2025., 22:58   #5919
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Pa ajde pogledaj sa TreeSize na koji direktorij otpada većina. To što ti izbacuje tu grešku jamačno znači da mu je 30GB malo za to što želi napraviti
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Staro 23.05.2025., 23:13   #5920
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Govorilo se o nekom update koji traži (ako se dobro sjećam) 100 GB ali na onoj odvojenoj particiji a ne na sys particiji ... da bi mogao uvaliti boga pitaj šta ...
Opčenito, taj igrokaz sa forsiranim update + treba više prostora nego za čisti install os - a
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Staro 24.05.2025., 05:37   #5921
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Govorilo se o nekom update koji traži (ako se dobro sjećam) 100 GB ali na onoj odvojenoj particiji a ne na sys particiji ... da bi mogao uvaliti boga pitaj šta ...
Opčenito, taj igrokaz sa forsiranim update + treba više prostora nego za čisti install os - a

Ma to je bila epizoda sa EFI particijama koje su bile manje od 512MB a trebalo im je par stotina MB više ak je bio Bitlocker u igri, ovo meni izgleda ko da mu treba tih 30GB za skinut/instalirat W11.
A možda ga je već i skinuo
Izvrti WizTree/Treesize kao admin btw.

Anyway, očito došlo doba za upgrade/clean install LTSC za sve koji misle ostat na W10.
Zadnje izmijenjeno od: kopija. 24.05.2025. u 06:51.
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Staro 24.05.2025., 06:25   #5922
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Možda pokušava Upgrade na Win11. Nebi bilo ništ čudno...
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Staro 24.05.2025., 09:41   #5923
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Dajte me podsjetite što je točno problem kod W11 naspram W10?
Mislim godinama, otkad je bila samo Beta koristim w11, ofc kao i svaki OS imao je nekih bugova i downfalla ali to se fixalo davnih dana. Novi bugovi kao i kod svakog OS budu ali to su na razini mušica na staklu od auta pa mos reć da je prljav.

Vidiš da te kara w10, skini si w11 i probaj na zasebnoj particiju... (Barem meni nakon određenog vremena ako s sustavom i programima radiš karate i puno "drkas" nije ni čudno da krene OS divljati)

On topic: morat ćeš vidjeti s TreeSize kako kolega kaže, kako bi znao što je požderalo prostor.

Što ne isključiš update potpuno pa ručno staviš samo security patch updateove jednom u tipa 1-2-3 mjeseca?

Nisi dao puno info o problemu, kako izgleda task manager servisi, kako izgleda disk usage, TreeSize prozor, start up apps...
Možda imaš neko đubre što ti redovito gnoji disk, jesi prošao s Malwarebytes ili HitmanPro?

Jel problem odjednom ili te duže muči? Koliko je stara win instalacija?

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Staro 25.05.2025., 11:24   #5924
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Dajte me podsjetite što je točno problem kod W11 naspram W10?
Win10 je spyware i to pokušava sakriti.
Win11 je mega spyware i ne pokušava to sakriti.
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Staro 25.05.2025., 21:58   #5925
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Aha, oba su spyware i na oba to rijesavamo. Znaci riješeno.

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Staro 26.05.2025., 14:32   #5926
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Možda pokušava Upgrade na Win11. Nebi bilo ništ čudno...
Upravo to nam se desilo u firmi na kompovima. Nije me bilo par mjeseci u firmi, te se ovo desilo na produkcijskom kompu (održavaju talijani, strogo vezan uz jedan prototip "pisača" s kojim radimo). Nisu pazili i uspjeli su sve shebat - pošto nije naš komp, nek se kuhaju.
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