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Staro 07.03.2025., 08:29   #841
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A kaj je sa automobilom? Mislim lako se vidi imaš li automobil....i za to si dužan platiti.
Ne mogu, osim provjerom uz nalog u MUP-u, znati čiji je to automobil odnosno na koga glasi. Možda je leasing, možda je rentani, možda je od babe koja živi na drugoj adresi i plaća pretplatu.
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Staro 07.03.2025., 10:02   #842
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Na prijedlog za ovrhu se obavezno piše žalba u roku, mislim da je tjedan dana. Onda ide sudac za prekršaje gdje tužitelj mora dokazati posjedovanje nekog prijemnika (ne dolaziti na sud sa mobitelom), s obzirom da to ne mogu dokazati gube spor. Nisi čitao sve što piše u papirima koje si dobio, nisi se raspitao.
raspitao sam se. i rijesio sve.
ne placam nista i odjavio sam
ne sjecam se tocno redoslijeda ali sam odjavio tv kod hrta i s tim isao ovrsiteljima. ne sjecam se odvjetnickog drustva koje je bilo. oni su odustali od svojih troskova. jer sam bio fer i pristao platiti prvih 6 mjeseci. i nakon toga odjavio tv.
nisam htio ulaziti u detaljer jer su svi ovdje vec objasnili par puta kako odjaviti. ja sam ga odjavio jos dok je bilo malo jednostanije i nisu trazili silne potvrde od prodaje, kvara itd itd.

samo sam htio komentirat kak nije pozeljno bas ignorirati uplatnice jer ce onda doci ovrha.

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U potpunosti. Samo sam htio čuti daljnje mišljenje na tu temu.





A kaj je sa automobilom? Mislim lako se vidi imaš li automobil....i za to si dužan platiti.
kad smo kupili stan tad je bivsi vlasnik sve odjavio sa sebe i prijavio mene, voda, struja, smece i izmedu ostalog i hrt.
na kraju sam i njega odjavio i ne otvaram nikome vrata. mozda nitko ni ne dolazi. tko zna.
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Staro 07.03.2025., 12:17   #843
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maxonja, odjavi uređaj koji je inicijalno i prijavljen (jamačno TV), od kontakata nemoj stavljati ništa. To što ti gurnu obrazac pod nos, ne znači da moraš sve popuniti. To je njihova forma i oni ju stalno mijenjaju. Da traže broj tvoje kartice, datum isteka i onaj kurac od šifre, da li biš im dao to? U HRTa je 99% svega APP.

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Na prijedlog za ovrhu se obavezno piše žalba u roku, mislim da je tjedan dana. Onda ide sudac za prekršaje gdje tužitelj mora dokazati posjedovanje nekog prijemnika (ne dolaziti na sud sa mobitelom), s obzirom da to ne mogu dokazati gube spor. Nisi čitao sve što piše u papirima koje si dobio, nisi se raspitao.
Roy, širiš dezinformacije, iako očito imaš dobru namjeru.

Na ovrhu se daje prigovor, ne žalba. Ovrhu se napada prigovorom ili zbog toga što nešto nije u redu sa samom ovrhom kakvu je napravio javni bilježnik, ili zbog toga što nešto nije u redu sa prijedlogom za ovrhu. Pretpostavljam da 99% prigovora ide s ovim drugim razlogom.

Kada taj predmet konačno dođe na sud (nakon više koraka; plaćaš sud, pa tužitelj šalje svoj podnesak pa ti odgovaraš na to njihovo i šalješ svoje dokaze), onda to pravilu bude spor male vrijednosti (10k KN je mensečini bio limit; u sporu male vrijednosti svi dokazi moraju biti poslani prije pripremnog/glavnog ročišta! samo je jedno ročište, ali zakon je tu nejasan!) i kao takav ide po skraćenom/jefinijem postupku. Problem je što ti predmeti suca vidjeti neće vjerojatno nikad nego se njima bave sudski pomoćnici koji su, prema mojem iskustvu, ekstra neobrazovani i nezainteresirani. Gluposti koje sam čuo, ja kao laik, od tih ljudi su nevjerojatne.

Zato kažem da su to sve uglavnom prepisivači i u takvom sistemu rezultat ima tendenciju biti relativno nausmičan, ali ipak snažno priklonjen podržavanju sistema.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 07.03.2025., 13:36   #844
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Ok, znači samo TV onda
Prvo, pod prijamnik koji posjedujem - TV - zaokružiti DA ili NE (u smislu, DA imao sam ga dosad, ali ga odjavljujem ili NE, više ga nemam)?
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Staro 07.03.2025., 16:18   #845
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Online je i stari obrazac
https://api.hrt.hr/media/e6/ce/nepos...0421122133.pdf

Za ovaj novi ne znam što bih ti rekao. Ja bih zaokružio prvo "da" ostalo "ne" u obje tablice.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 07.03.2025., 17:48   #846
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Ignoriranje će prije ili kasnije vjerojatno voditi na ovrhu. Mislim da je henrijev savjet neupućen.

Ugl. kome se da čitati iskustva ljudi sa suda

https://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=164186
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Staro 07.03.2025., 22:48   #847
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samo sam htio komentirat kak nije pozeljno bas ignorirati uplatnice jer ce onda doci ovrha.
Prvo ide prijedlog za ovrhu koja postaje pravomoćna ako se po slučaju ne žališ, ako si uložio žalbu na ovrhu onda slučaj ide na sud a tužitelj mora dokazati posjedovanje prijemnika.
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Staro 07.03.2025., 22:51   #848
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...Roy, širiš dezinformacije, iako očito imaš dobru namjeru.
Lapsus calami, očito je što sam htio reći.
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Staro 07.03.2025., 23:20   #849
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A sta ako je osoba na koju dolaze uplatnice dan danas, umrla 2018 godine?
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Staro 07.03.2025., 23:53   #850
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Pa nije valjda netko to plaćao 7 godina? Logično da je trebalo odjaviti prijemnik zbog smrti vlasnika i priložiti smrtovnicu.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 08.03.2025., 02:10   #851
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Prvo ide prijedlog za ovrhu koja postaje pravomoćna ako se po slučaju ne žališ, ako si uložio žalbu na ovrhu onda slučaj ide na sud a tužitelj mora dokazati posjedovanje prijemnika.
Da znam. To sam i napisao..i sve je riješeno. Al ti si pretpostavio da ja ne citam sitna slova...

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Staro 08.03.2025., 10:33   #852
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SPLiFF možeš dobiti taj novac natrag ako dobiješ spor i tražiš povrat troškova. Tu ti još minimalno pripada i dnevnica i putni troškovi. Naravno, dobivanje spora na OS je teško, ako ne i nemoguće. Barem u nekim gradovima, to su generacije prepisivača i beskičemnjaka.
To bi bila zdravorazumna pretpostavka, međutim meni su na sudu rekli da ne postoji način za povrat tog iznosa. Zapravo se ne radi o sporu, ali evo nisam siguran, možda se javi netko tko je uspio dobiti povrat.
Što se samog ročišta tiče, ovrhovoditelj se nije ni pojavio (jer nisu ni imali osnovu za ovrhu) tako je da sudska savjetnica odbacila prijedlog za ovrhu.


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A kaj je sa automobilom? Mislim lako se vidi imaš li automobil....i za to si dužan platiti.
Koliko znam, samo ako je u autu radio prijamnik. A tko će to dokazati...?



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kad smo kupili stan tad je bivsi vlasnik sve odjavio sa sebe i prijavio mene, voda, struja, smece i izmedu ostalog i hrt.
na kraju sam i njega odjavio i ne otvaram nikome vrata. mozda nitko ni ne dolazi. tko zna.
Ček ček, ovo mi zvuči naopako. Ne može bivši vlasnik nekretnine prijaviti novog vlasnika za bilo što. Na novom vlasniku je da dokaže vlasništvo nad nekretninom i sklopi ugovore za režije.
Zapravo, vjerojatno bi jedino HRT prihvatio i da random cigo prijavi tvoj TV prijamnik
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To bi bila zdravorazumna pretpostavka, međutim meni su na sudu rekli da ne postoji način za povrat tog iznosa. Zapravo se ne radi o sporu, ali evo nisam siguran, možda se javi netko tko je uspio dobiti povrat.

Što se samog ročišta tiče, ovrhovoditelj se nije ni pojavio (jer nisu ni imali osnovu za ovrhu) tako je da sudska savjetnica odbacila prijedlog za ovrhu.









Koliko znam, samo ako je u autu radio prijamnik. A tko će to dokazati...?











Ček ček, ovo mi zvuči naopako. Ne može bivši vlasnik nekretnine prijaviti novog vlasnika za bilo što. Na novom vlasniku je da dokaže vlasništvo nad nekretninom i sklopi ugovore za režije.

Zapravo, vjerojatno bi jedino HRT prihvatio i da random cigo prijavi tvoj TV prijamnik
Ha izgleda da se moze. Al ne samo hrt. Svima. Uz naravno dokaz o prodaji stana.
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To bi bila zdravorazumna pretpostavka, međutim meni su na sudu rekli da ne postoji način za povrat tog iznosa. Zapravo se ne radi o sporu, ali evo nisam siguran, možda se javi netko tko je uspio dobiti povrat.
Strana koja je izgubila treba strani koja je dobila nadoknaditi sve troškove. Kako sam napisao prije, problem je što su ti ljudi na sudu ekstremno needucirani.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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FYI...
Poslao ovo. Dobio nazad odgovor da je obrazac nevažeći, i skupa sa tim odgovorom poslali važeći obrazac, tj. onaj u kojem treba zaokružiti zašto otkazuješ pretplatu, i dostaviti dokaz ako ti je TV crka/prodan/nepopravljiv, itd.

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Znači neke od opcija koje oni "prihvaćaju" su:

1. Neupotrebljivost zbog kvara

a) Potvrda o odlaganju na otpadu

Obišao sam nekoliko el. otpada i nitko fizičkoj osobi ne želi dati potvrdu da sam odložio uređaj, samo pravnim osobama.
Pitao HRT emailom kako oni misle da ja dobijem tu potvrdu, odgovora nema.

b) Potvrda ovlaštenog servisa o neispravnosti uređaja

Šta je to ovlašteni servis za TV star 20 godina koji je crka ?
Ali ajmo reć da taj magični servis i nađemo, sad treba na otpadu naći crknuti TV, odnit ga u taj servis i onda moliti na koljenima da ti daju nekakvu potvrdu da je tvoj TV crka. Koliko god apsurdno ovo bilo, ovo je još najlakša opcija


2. Prodaja

Jedna od solucija je "prodaja prijamnika", gdje oni traže "Izjavu o prodaji ili drugi dokaz". Samo me zanima šta to oni smatraju izjavom o prodaji i kako oni misle da će fizička osoba, koja prodaje stari prijamnik preko npr. Njuškala, nabavit ikakvu potvrdu o toj transakciji ?


3. Darovanje

Ovdje traže "Izjavu o darovanju ili drugi dokaz".
Znači ako sam nekom darovao TV star 20 godina vrijednosti €0, sad vjerojatno oni traže da sa tom osobom idem u javnog bilježnika i ovjerim Ugovor o darovanju ?
I koji k. je "drugi dokaz" u ovim slučajima?


Ostale opcije nisu opcija (preseljenje, smrt, odlazak u dom, krađa, itd.).
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Staro 03.04.2025., 20:19   #856
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U staroj verziji obrasca si davao "izjavu" kako više nemaš prijemnik pod kaznenom odgovornosti blah blah preprodaja mikroskopa kenj kenj, i to je bilo. Da napišeš da si prodao TV nekom nepoznatom čovjeku s kojim si stupio u kontakt preko oglasnika i potpišeš, to bi po njihovim velebnim kriterijima trebalo biti dovoljno.

Pretpostavljam da će u budućim verzijama obrasca biti potrebno s kupcem otići kod bilježnika, pa onda obrazac skupa sa ovjerenim ugovorom u 5 kopija, te uzorkom urina i stolice dostaviti osobno na neku adresu ulica b.b. i to između 0:00 i 0:45 svake treće srijede u mjesecu.

Jedino što se mogu nadati je da ovo izdrkavanje indicira kako ljudi ipak odjavljuju to smeće.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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nemozes evo meni, dodjem na suzuki sa nokiom 3310
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Staro 05.05.2025., 17:03   #861
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3310 nema radio prijemnik?
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 05.05.2025., 17:13   #862
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10,62€ na sunce. I za 6 mjeseci unazad
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Staro 05.05.2025., 17:23   #863
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ja govorim o nokia 3310 iz 2000.godine, ovo novo iz 2017 mi je high tech
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nisam mislio da u ikad dozivjeti da netko ne zna za og nokiu 3310...
ostario sam
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hahahaha, baš to razmišljam.
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nisam mislio da u ikad dozivjeti da netko ne zna za og nokiu 3310...
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Imao je, ali nisam mislio da itko to još koristi. Valjda jedino za izbjegavanje HRT preplate
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to je spika i totalno legitimna ako se ti kokosari pojave ikad ...tv nemam,mob 3310,auto radio nemam na motoru...i sta mi mos nista..adio
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Ja sam nakon 3310 i nakon toga Siemens c35 ili tako nekako. Potonji je imao radio prijemnik i mogao si ostvariti prijem ako si ukopčao slušalice. Naravno da nisam to nikada koristio niti sam imao slušalice s tim blesavim konektorom.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 05.05.2025., 20:51   #869
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Imam jedno pitanje.
U slučaju preseljenja u novoizgrađenu kuću. Ujedino i prva i jedina nekretnina na moje ime. Nije još namještena.
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Pretpostavljam da će mi HRT pretplata doći "sama od sebe" na adresu? Ne vjerujem da se je itko ikada prijavio sam na HRT da plaća pristojbu?
Ono što zapravo želim pitati. Mogu kako unaprijed spriječiti sve ovo gore da se ne moram zahebavati kasnije?
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Staro 05.05.2025., 20:53   #870
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Ne bude ti ništa dolazilo samo od sebe. Uživaj.

https://o-nama.hrt.hr/pristojba/obra...tne-osobe-4422
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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