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Staro 03.03.2025., 13:29   #691
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Da, Nvidiotima je dovoljno a je sveta kompanija rekla 4%, a Stevea odavno ne gledaju. Ali stvarno im se nakupilo problema ovu generaciju. Mora da stvarno stavljaju pripravnike da lansiraju kartice, nema aspekta koji nije imao nekakvu grešku.
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Staro 03.03.2025., 13:34   #692
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Kažem da je cijeli taj razgovor trebalo jasno otkantati i prokazati kao besmislenu priču, a ne se uvlačiti u njega. Ovako se opet dozvoljava nVidiji da stvara narativ. Druga stvar je što su čak i unutar tog narativa lažovi. To se moglo ukratko spomenuti, ali na načelnoj razini otkantati cijeli taj narativ.
Da nije nVidia-i dano da stvori svoj narativ, isti bi složili ljubitelji branda na svoju štetu. Nije da to nije bilo viđeno ranije. Neki dan smo imali ovdje diskusiju kako se naveo primjer da se nedostatak 0,5GB VRAM-a uz pomoć nVidia pomoći u vidu driver fix-a nije osjetio. Smatram da se nVidia nije oglasila oko ovoga, korisnici i ljubitelji branda bi sami složili priču kako je to u redu i što sad jr je DLSS 4 toliko nadmoćan i odličan da će performanse ostati netaknute a ako nekoga baš jako smeta uvijek može reklamirati grafičku karticu. Win-win situacija za sve prisutne osim za nas koji promatramo sa strane i čudimo se svepristunoj idiokraciji.
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Staro 03.03.2025., 14:13   #693
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Pa DLSS4 i je najbolji dio novih kartica, vjerojatno zato što i nije dio (samo) novih kartica
Da sam eventualni kupac serije 5xxx, kao netko tko voli igrati starije igre, puno puno bi me više smetala apsolutna svinjarija koju su izveli sa physx-om, nego ti ropovi. Ropove reklamiram i dobijem novi grafu, ali ovo smeće ne mogu promijeniti. Mogu igrati igru u 20 fpsa na rtx 5090
I to nigdje nisu ni spominjali nego su ljudi sami skužili kad im je pao framerate na razinu PS1 tamo gdje je GPU trebao izračunati fiziku, meni je to osobno možda i najgori dio općenitog 5xxx fijaska.
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Staro 03.03.2025., 14:19   #694
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Sjebali su sve kaj se moglo sjebati s tim karticama, a RMA za ROP-ove je samo još jedna u nizu tragikomedija, jer kartica nema, pa ide višemjesečno čekanje za sljedeći poluproizvod iz te bajne serije. DLSS 4 su kak smo i komentirali lako mogli izbaciti kao zaseban dio, kad ionak radi i na svemu prije Blackwell modela. Ili su mogli pričekati pola godine da slože RTX 5000 kak spada ili se ne zamarati kad im je AI prioritet.
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DLSS 4 je software-ski dio cijele priče. Kontekst u kojem sam spomenuo navedenu tehnologiju je da će se njezino postojanje i primjena koristiti u svrhe opravdavanja nedostajećih ROP-ova tojest ne da će se koristiti nego se već dobrano koristi po raznim forumima i komentarima članaka diljem interneta od strane maloumnih štovatelja branda. Isto je naveo i gospodin Steve Burke u svom video uratku od prije dan dva doslovno istim riječima što sam i sam rekao prije nekoliko dana u ovoj temi.
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Da, nema druge riječi, nego da takvi ljudi sad u DLSS-u 4 pronalaze utjehu za prijevaru/obmanu, a nVidia se smije sa "evo vam ga sad" stavom.
Dakle, i dalje sve po planu.
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A zaliha nema, prodaju oni to puno puno skuplje, ali ne gejmerima.
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Da, ali sad iz ovih RTX 5000 dogodovština imamo prilike vidjeti da cijela Blackwell familija nije bez razloga popraćena problemima.

I takvih novosti je bilo cijelo ovo vrijeme, samo se nitko nije obaziral previše, dok nije udarilo na gaming frontu.

Uglavnom, sutra su recenzije za RTX 5070, nadasve odličnu karticu koja nudi performanse u rangu RTX 4090 za samo 549$.
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Nvidia je s serijom 5000 postupala kao da ih je Intel savjetovao, zabrljali su sve što se moglo zabrljati.
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Ko zna možda bude sljedeća (RTX 6000) generacija bazirana na Intel 18A procesu, a obzirom na sva dosadašnja veselja oko toga magičnog procesa - TSMC im se već sad smije.
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A ja sam uvjeren imaju više ROP-ova nego je deklarirano upravo zbog proizvodnih defekata. Ako se zalomi high-binned chip koji ima više funkcionalnih ROP-ova nego je deklarirano onda jednostavno disejblaju funkcionalne ROP-ove.
Pa odgovara li predmetni broj ROPova specifikaciji ili ne odgovara? Ako je trebalo spustii chip u neki niži segment onda su to Nvidia i partneri trebali napraviti.
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Ajmo još malo, nV se pobrinula da njihovim debilanama nema kraja!

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series Faces Compute Performance Issues Due to Dropped 32-bit Support



The benchmark developer also notes this change doesn't fully explain poor DirectX9 performance, suggesting additional architectural changes may affect legacy rendering pathways.

EDIT: Jedan od komentara ispod članka:

I can understand Nvidia dropping 32bit support. With chips designed for servers and AI, Nvidia doesn't really care that much for compatibility with old software. In any case the solution for anyone wanting to run DirectX 9 games at 4K with 500 fps or games supporting hardware PhysX, is getting a 3000/4000 series Nvidia GPU and adding it in a second PCIe x16 slot. Someone paying $200-$500 over MSRP, probably can pay a little more for 32bit support.

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Staro 04.03.2025., 09:08   #703
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Dobro, to je sad već fino trolanje ljudi koji su imali tu nesreću kupiti te interesantne grafičke
Izgleda da je nvidia odlučila dati AMD-u šansu kakvu dugo nije imao, nadam se iskreno da će ju iskoristiti.
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Iliti ubili za sve pare, RAZVALILI!

A kad su ih i ovi izdali....zna se koliko je sati...



Nadam se da je AMD sada stvarno spreman, jer mislim da će se teško ovo ponoviti.
Rebrand generacija. Po svemu, mislim da bi 9070 vulgaris trebala odigrat nogomet sa ovom skalamerijom, ali ne po 550 MSRP, a pogotovo ne ako se MSRP i kod AMDa pokaže lažna.
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Polako, možda joj fali 20% ROP-ova
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Ja vjerujem da je 5070 brža* ako upališ fake frame na max te zagasiš sve što možeš zagasiti na 4090.


* više fake FPSova.
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Za sutrašnje recenzije RX 9070 modela je dosta da ih ima na lageru po bilo kojoj cijeni i da daju sliku na ekran, jer već su s tim napravili više od ovih Blackwell pizdarija.
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Letvica za postizanje uspjeha je postavljena na nivo koji priliči idiokraciji.
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Nažalost tak je, ali Heavy Metal Steve je zato fino posložil svoje grafove, tak da se zna kaj očekivati kad je RDNA 4 u pitanju.
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Stvarno sam mislio da je Jensen mudriji od Intelovih šefova i da neće napraviti grešku koju je Intel napravio dok je imao monopol. No praktički gledamo reprizu, minimalan napredak u odnosu na prethodnu generaciju i veliku priliku za AMD da napravi nešto značajno. Jensen urinira po svojim fanovima kao Plenki po glasačima.
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Stvarno sam mislio da je Jensen mudriji od Intelovih šefova i da neće napraviti grešku koju je Intel napravio dok je imao monopol. No praktički gledamo reprizu, minimalan napredak u odnosu na prethodnu generaciju i veliku priliku za AMD da napravi nešto značajno. Jensen urinira po svojim fanovima kao Plenki po glasačima.
Jensen ima velike sreće zbog letargičnosti AMD-a.
Imam neki filing da AMD za godinu dana neće povratit ni 10% tržišnog udjela (sa trenutnih 10 na 20%).
Oni su tu trebali spucat jednostavno da ih tako nazovem glupe cijene koje je Stevo AU sugerirao da budu neodoljivi, ovako su za sada dok ne vidimo prave prodajne cijene i performasne, samo bolja opcija ali nisu no brainer, jer nemaju pedigre kao zeleni koji će se prodavat kakogod. Prodaju doslovno maglu, pošto zaliha očito nema...
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Staro 04.03.2025., 16:42   #712
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Za sutrašnje recenzije RX 9070 modela...
HWU Stevi "utekli" podaci o potrosnji dan ranije
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Opa, nije ni mala potrošnja, ako ima performanse 4080 u renderu, još uvijek troši 40W više. Nije katastrofalno, nije ni idealno.

5070 je stagnacija u midrangeu već drugu generaciju? Netko je rekao u nekom MLID podcastu nedavno da je Nvidia odlučila zabetonirati low i mid end na razinu konzola, PS5, i da se igra samo sa segmentima iznad, što ispada potpuna istina kad se vide ovi podaci i ove cijene.

Ne vjerujem da Nvidia živi u good enough balončiću kao Intel, ovo je sve kalkulirano s fokusom na AI, koji donosi koliko ono, 18X prihoda u odnosu na gaming? Sve jasno gdje su prioriteti. Maleni pomaci, ali i malena ulaganja, sve otišlo u AI. Kad bi barem konkurencija poremetila monopol...
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Kaj se potrošnje tiče, RTX 5070 u igrama troši kakvih 220W, dok s uključenim ray-tracingom ide na 250W. Na kraju ispada da HUB Steve ima ~100W veću potrošnju za sve kartice.
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OC3D has confirmed that multiple UK retailers have no RTX 5070 GPU stock ahead of the graphics card’s March 5th release. The UK’s supply of early RTX 5070 GPUs appears to be with distributors, and UK retailers will be lucky to get any of these graphics cards ahead of their official release. Will RTX 5070 GPU stock be higher in other regions? Maybe. All we know is that Nvidia’s RTX 5070’s day 1 supply is abysmal in the UK, practically non-existent. Like prior RTX 50 series GPU launches, available GPUs will sell out quickly, and pre-orders for future stock may also sell out fast.
To je taj nVidia pedigre, koji bude se nakon ovoga i zbog AI fokusa posetepno rastopil kao i svojevremeno Intelov plug'n'play. Cijela Europa možda dobi 10 RTX 5070 kartica na raspolaganje.
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NVIDIA has reportedly informed reviewers that the card, which has garnered 90% of today’s review coverage, will not be available for sale tomorrow. The GeForce RTX 5070 non-Ti card, slated for a March 5 launch, will be released through both NVIDIA’s Founders Edition and various custom models from board partners. However, just 2.5 hours before the launch, NVIDIA informed reviewers that the RTX 5070 Founder Edition will not hit the market until later this month. This delay affects the Founders Edition in both the German and US markets, as confirmed by Andreas Schilling, who first reported the news. Presumably this will impact all markets. This doesn’t mean the RTX 5070 won’t launch, there are still plenty of options from board partners. However, from what others are saying, stock won’t be overwhelmingly large this time either.
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Mozda su bili ipak dovoljno pametni pa su povukli nazad falicne 5070 ROP edition i sada se ceka posiljka non ROP edicije...moooozda....a mozda su u sumi.
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OK, kad se već tješimo, onda nek to bude kak spada.
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Potraznja je tolka da su rasprodane prije nego su dosle u ducane..

Bas je AMD glup sto nije spustio 9070 na 500$, to bi bio masakr..
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Jensen ima velike sreće zbog letargičnosti AMD-a.
Imam neki filing da AMD za godinu dana neće povratit ni 10% tržišnog udjela (sa trenutnih 10 na 20%).
Oni su tu trebali spucat jednostavno da ih tako nazovem glupe cijene koje je Stevo AU sugerirao da budu neodoljivi, ovako su za sada dok ne vidimo prave prodajne cijene i performasne, samo bolja opcija ali nisu no brainer, jer nemaju pedigre kao zeleni koji će se prodavat kakogod. Prodaju doslovno maglu, pošto zaliha očito nema...

Pa nije AMD crveni križ, da imam AMD dionice odma bi ih prodao da krenu izvodit pizdarije i prodavat kartice za ništa dok nema konkurencije. Kak to Stevo zamišlja, bit će jeftine i onda će hrpa ljudi to kupit, AMD će bit negdje oko nule i onda će slijedeću generaciju opet preć na nvidiu kad se Jensen malo skocka
Gledam sad MF, najjača nvidia u ponudi je 4060Ti
9070XT ako bude 700 EUR opet će se prodavat bolesno, cijena uopće nije problem, problem je dobavljivost i performanse u odnosu na konkurenciju. Nije poanta prodavat jeftino nego napravit nešto što valja i zaradit neku lovicu, ne kužim kako to Stevo ne kuži
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Stevica u zadnje vrijeme puno stvari ne kuzi, kao da zivi u nekom svom svijetu
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