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Staro 23.02.2025., 10:44   #4471
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danas kompletiro sve i isprobo na par letvi i super ide
dal možda znaš dal ima za kupit malo duži mač i lanac bez onog štitnika naprijed?



možda vodilica od modela FORTEXXA 18/30
Ne znam nisam istraživao.
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Staro 23.02.2025., 11:07   #4472
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Uzmi ovo sad kad bude u Kauflandu.
Imam je i odlična je, u setu dobiješ još i nekoliko SDS svrdala, dlijeta i zateznu glavu za klasična svrdla te imas sve za početak.
Dobavljač je OWIM pa je i najkvalitetnije od Parksidea.
Imam takvu, zdimila dva puta, udarci nisu ni blizu ovoj iskrinoj
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Staro 23.02.2025., 13:21   #4473
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Moja preporuka ti je gledati dobavljača Parkside proizvoda iako to nije 100 posto sigurno ali po mom iskustvu OWIM je daleko najkvalitetniji i najbolji alat. Nakon njega Kompernass pa onda Grizzy Tools koji ima najviše fušeraja.

Ja sam si ovo ljeto dok sam čekao reklamaciju aku čekića uzeo 1050W žični model koji je super, dizajn je kao Bosch (inline) i onda prodao taj aku i na kraju nedavno uzeo novi aku model od 6j koji je odličan. Za te jače alate bi radije uzimao strujni ili Performance aku iako imam par super zelenih alata.
Jednaki su, trenutno imam više toga krepano od Owima nego Grizzlya. Nedavno sam kupio Owimov cirkular, nije radio minutu i krepao je. Novi čekam debelo preko mjesec dana, dođe mi da kupim novi jer imam posla. Imam dojam da su ove nove smart serije alata puno lošije od starih s mehaničkim prekidačima.
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Staro 23.02.2025., 13:42   #4474
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Ne znam, meni je Owim slao stvari unutar tjedan-dva max.
Uranjajuća radi odlično, nekoliko puta sam je koristio ali sam čuo da je ljudima krepala ili odmah ili da radi.

Ovu stemalicu iz Kauflanda sam ljetos uzeo u Lidla samo je došla bez zatezne glave i koštala je 55e. Radi mi bez greške ali vjerojatno je ta Iskra jača no za bušenje ti ne teba velika snaga nego kvalitetni borer i Iskra je vjerojatno teža dosta pa nije tako zgodna za rukovanje.

BTW, prekjučer u Bribiru sam susjedi bušio rupu za dimnjak u staroj kući. Fi15 s ovim novim Parkside Perf 6j čekić bušilicom na baterije.
Zid debljine >30cm iz kašuna (većinom kamen + malo betona) i bio sam te nesreće da naletim na kamenčinu koja je sačinjavala taj dio zida koji sam bušio tako da je u biti bilo bušenje kroz živi kamen.

Bušilica je odradila dobro samo sam morao koristi svrdla od 70cm jer su mi standardna prekratka i onda još štemati. Puklo je jedno dlijeto (na spoju sds prihvata) ali na kraju uspješno određeno. Je da je potrošila jednu ipo bateriju od 8ah ali nije lagan posao bio niti malo.
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Staro 23.02.2025., 14:36   #4475
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Imam takvu, zdimila dva puta, udarci nisu ni blizu ovoj iskrinoj
Imam takvu parkside, stara između 8 i 9 godina. Čuda je odradila, odštemala betona, staza oko kuće, izbušila mali milion rupa. Nije jaka ko ove prave čekić ali meni dostatna i isplatila se odavno. Jednom mijenjane četkice. Radi bez greške.
Boreri i dlijeta koja dođu s njom su relativno loša.
Plaćena oko 400kn ako se dobro sjećam.

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Staro 24.02.2025., 04:33   #4476
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Ima ko kakavu preporuku za štemalicu, ono da bez problema ruši starinske betonske blokove i malo jači beton ?
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Staro 24.02.2025., 07:16   #4477
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Za kvalitetno rasturanje svega je ovo najbolje

https://www.bauhaus.hr/udarne-busili...500/p/28360593

Za malo više muke, uzmeš one udarne čekiće po 80eu
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Staro 24.02.2025., 09:51   #4478
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https://www.lidl.de/p/parkside-abbru...ung/p100365394

Ovo se pokazalo odlično kad sam radio vikendicu, štemao sam ogromne količine betona i kamena.
Prijatelju sam je posudio i on je sebi podrum štemao jer ide u dubinu i neda se đubre već nekoliko godina. Sebi je uzeo još jednu i obadvije su korištene u teškim uvjetima i rade bez greške.

Ima jačih i težih ali stvar je u tome što je i ova na granici gabarita pa se može i koristiti ne samo na podu ako baš treba ali ne bih moga zamisliti korištenje teže na zidovima.

Uostalom za zidove od bloka je i prejaka i prolaziti će kroz blokove i tu ti je puno bolja kombinacija velika brusilica + manja štemalica + macola jer kad otvoriš jednu stranu zida za bušilicom i kreneš rušiti blokovi padaju lako.
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Staro 24.02.2025., 12:35   #4479
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A baš gledam taj Parkside, težina 12 kila. Triba to držati!


I ono najbolje nema ga nigdi u ponudi.




U iskrine proizvode odavno neman vire, a i i svi proizvodi od bušilica, brusilica, pila itd. su im u odnosu na ostale bučni za popizditi.
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Staro 24.02.2025., 13:15   #4480
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Ja imam manju parkside štemalicu od ove gore naveden koja je 50 KJ i 12 kg ova moja je mislim 5-6 kila i ima udarac 15 KJ i ta je zakon da se s njom sve, beton i armirani beton ide ali teže. ALi je lagana pa mozes s njom i zidove lagano.

https://www.lidl.de/p/parkside-abbru...iff/p100364851

Ja sam pola kuce s njom ostemao i posudivao je okolo i nije se pazilo na nju i jos radi. Morao bi malo masti dodati van toga peri deri.
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Vidiš meni su te 3 krepale zaredom uz minimalan rad.
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Staro 24.02.2025., 18:00   #4482
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Staro 24.02.2025., 19:55   #4483
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Evo sam počeo pisati šta sve imam od njihovog alata pa me mozak zabolio i odustao...
Ali alat kojeg moram spomenuti i koji me najviše oduševio je crna Aku kutna brusilica. Link
Nije savršena jer ima one glupaste membranske tipke ali čak i sa tom manom je odlična. Ito se dokazala u usporedbi sa Milwaukee M18 aku brusilicom u trajanju od sigurno dvadesetak radnih dana jedna pored druge.
Ravna glava i općenito balans u ruci su vrhunski odrađeni detalji na njoj.
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Ja imam onu sa niskoprofilnom glavom i moram priznati da je dobra. Također imam i 230mm 40v varijantu koju sam do sad koristio samo jednom za prepilati neki Ytong, obadvije su bile neka sića.
Lani sam imao prijašnju verziju sa mehaničkim prekidačem i to nije bila sreća jer ako brusiš ili pilaš kamen ili beton brzo uđe fina prašina i ode prekidač, meni su ovim membranski puno draže rješenje. Ta stara je imala i preagresivnu kočnicu pa je prilikom gašenja znala trznuti.

Nego, evo jedna preporuka:
Već ima neko vrijeme da sam uzeo ali nikako da isprobam
Glodala za pero utor za glodalicu na Temu
Danas kratko probao i daje odlične rezultate. Dušu dalo za spajanje dasaka od 18-19mm.

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Imam par stvari za napraviti po kuci od drveta pa gledam neku uranjajucu pilu sa vodilicom…

Na kraju opet zavrsio pregledavajuci Parkside, nekako imaju dobar omjer cijene/kvalitete.

Sto mislite? Ima li sto pametnije?

https://www.lidl.de/p/parkside-perfo...aet/p100382688


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Nema ništa ni blizu za tu cijenu, ako imaš baterije nemaš šta misliti. Ako nemaš prodam ti ja svoju kabelsku koja je skroz dobra sa makita listom jeftino jer mi ne treba dvije
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Staro 24.02.2025., 22:35   #4487
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Ajde da i lidl.de bude jednom skuplji od našeg...
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Nisu slomili u kratko vrijeme. Slamali su godinama, desetljećima pa i stoljećima. Svaka odgledana epizoda Big Brothera, svaki dečko koji ne zna niti promijeniti žarulju, a kamoli uzeti sjekiru i pocijepati drva, svaka cura koja misli da je briga za vlastitu obitelj robija, ali rad za par tisuća kuna u korporaciji 12 sati dnevno blagodat, svako promicanje terora političke korektnosti, svaka podrška promociji svih oblika poremećenosti… Sve to nas je dovelo do ovdje. Korona je samo zakucavanje lopte u gol nakon što je obrana već izigrana i golman odletio u prazno.




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Imam par stvari za napraviti po kuci od drveta pa gledam neku uranjajucu pilu sa vodilicom…

Na kraju opet zavrsio pregledavajuci Parkside, nekako imaju dobar omjer cijene/kvalitete.

Sto mislite? Ima li sto pametnije?

https://www.lidl.de/p/parkside-perfo...aet/p100382688


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Skuplja opcija, al po meni sigurnija i kvalitetnija ak može kabel: https://www.pevex.hr/kruzna-pila-ein...165-uranjajuca


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https://www.pevex.hr/vodilica-za-kru...-165-te-ps-165
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Danas konačno napravio lift rješenje za glodalicu na stolu jer mi je štelanje visine išlo na jetru.


Na dio kućišta predviđenog za montažu graničnika dubine koji se fiksira pomoću M6 vijka sam stavio duguljastu šesterokutnu M8 maticu na koju je navaren M6 vijak i onda to sve zavidano u prihvat.
Kroz maticu je uvidana navojna šipka i provučena kroz baznu ploču tako da se okretanjem matice podiže ili spušta glodalica.

Sad je samo pitanje trajnosti tog rješenja tj plastične ploče ali nju ionako planiram zamjeniti čeličnom čim prije.
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Sad je samo pitanje trajnosti tog rješenja tj plastične ploče ali nju ionako planiram zamjeniti čeličnom čim prije.

Možeš koristiti one PU kuhinjske ploče za rezanje - otporne na ogrebotine, a i lipo kližu.


Ili iz nekog starog LCD monitora izvadiš matricu ili već kako se zove.
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To misliš na onaj metalizirani sloj? To je otporno na ogrebotine?
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Ne, mislim na onaj prozirni dio - neman pojma čemu služi
Uglavnom u starijim monitorima je to debljine 5-7 mm, a u novijim 2-3 mm.


Evo slika nije baš naj naj (brzinski iz skladišta na šporkoj majci) od Dell 15 in debljina 7mm. Po sebi ima isprepletene bijele heksagone.






I da, poprilično je otporno na ogrebotine.
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Staro 26.02.2025., 21:02   #4493
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Ja to zovem "full prozirni i uniformni pleksiglas" Nisam znao za ovo za ogrebotine, budem testirao.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 26.02.2025., 21:59   #4494
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Zanimljivo, ali treba biti dovoljno krut da se ne uvija kad se okači glodalica od skoro 4kg.
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Kruta je ta ploča. Lik na youboob je objašnavao kako su razne komponente u monitoru ekstra komplicirane za napraviti pa kada biš ih nabavljao pojedinačno da bi to bilo jako skupo. A u obsolete monitorima i TVima ih ima koliko hoćeš. Konkretno je pričao o toj ploči te o sloju kroz koji prolazi svjetlost a koji je on strugao da dobije koje već spojeve. Kemičar
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 26.02.2025., 22:28   #4496
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Offtopic, ali, polomljeni LCD monitor je dobar i za napraviti dosta mekan izvor svjetla ili umjetni prozor. Ovdje lik dodaje svoje LEDiode, ali i inače se može samo skinuti LCD i polarizatorski sloj i dobiti prirodno izgledajući izvor svjetla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrqH2oOTK4
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Staro 27.02.2025., 10:35   #4497
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treba mi bušilica za "po kući" .. znači povremena, ne profesionalna upotreba (montaža lustera, zavjesa, ogledala) zidovi su cigla i beton.


Gledao sam ovo:
https://www.bigbang.hr/busilica-udar...gsb-13-re.html
https://www.bigbang.hr/udarna-busili...mpact-800.html


što mi je pametnije (imam diners)?
obje imaju elektroniku za kontrolu brzine i precizno podešavnje brzine (što bi dobro došlo kod bušenja pločica)
je li 600W dovoljno za ovakav tip posla (plava) ili da idem na jaču snagu (zelena)?


ili... da zanemarim sve i kupim ovaj sa SDSom:


https://www.bigbang.hr/cekic-busilic...h-2100-re.html

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Staro 27.02.2025., 12:37   #4498
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Za hobi po doma, ako ne radiš puno, po meni najbolje kombinacija jedna manja all-in-one baterijska (šarafljenje, bušenje, čekić). Ako imaš često neki beton, onda jedan takav jeftini čekić na žicu kao što je taj parkside.

Iz iskustva, Parkside je jako loš, pogotovo zadnjih godina. Imam doma takvu jednu štemericu sa SDS prihvatom, tvornički stezna glava felša, stavim svrdlo fi 6, rupa skoro za tiplu fi 8
Za baterijsku - mobilan si, prije ili poslije ćeš naletiti da ti treba negdje gdje je problem dovući struju.
Imam ovakvu kao što je sad na akciji u pevexu za 80€, to je jeftiniji model jer nije brushless, pokriva mi 95% potreba za po doma.
https://www.pevex.hr/aku-udarna-busi...-li-i-1x2-5-ah
Neki dan bušio 4 rupe cigla/beton u podrumu gdje bi mi trebalo 30m+ produžnog.

Radije nešto tako malo odnesem nego natezati kabele i vući veliki čekić.

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Staro 27.02.2025., 12:48   #4499
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Meni više ima smisla na kabel ako se koristi par puta godišnje baš zbog samih baterija koje u tom slučaju stoje i vjerojatno propadaju.
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Staro 27.02.2025., 14:11   #4500
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Nisam pobornik toga da sve bude na baterije, svakom nešto drugo paše, manja cijena svakako ide u prilog alata na kabel, a ergonomija ovih na baterije.
Npr. imam parkside bušilicu kupljenu 2018, baterija još uvijek kao nova. Jako malo se koristi, uvijek je u koferu, baterija nije spojena dok se ne koristi
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