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Staro 16.11.2024., 08:54   #31171
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Gledah Gladijatora 2
7.1/10 na imdb? Prije 1.7/10. Film je teži woke fantasy proljev, s povijesnom točnošću u rangu Bridgetona. Nije ni malo zabavan već samo naporan. Ima dio gdje je arena napunjena vodom u kojoj plivaju velike bijele psine, toliko o realnosti
I taj Ridley se potpiše na svako go*no
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Staro 16.11.2024., 09:02   #31172
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The Colosseum was also used as a giant pool for water battles. Yes, a pool! The naumachiaewere a staging of mock naval battles, which were largely documented by Ancient Roman writers. The poet Martial says that the amphitheater could change from dry land to the sea very quickly. Indeed, it is known that it took nearly 7 hours to fill the entire arena with water. The water flowed through a very complex system of inner wells and pipes located under the seatings.
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Mislim da je mogao biti vrhunski film da se malo vise fokusiralo na narativ, a moglo se sve objasnit jer ima voice over narration, a mrvu manje na abstract art.
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Staro 16.11.2024., 15:34   #31173
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Gledah Gladijatora 2
7.1/10 na imdb? Prije 1.7/10. Film je teži woke fantasy proljev, s povijesnom točnošću u rangu Bridgetona. Nije ni malo zabavan već samo naporan. Ima dio gdje je arena napunjena vodom u kojoj plivaju velike bijele psine, toliko o realnosti
I taj Ridley se potpiše na svako go*no
https://www.historyskills.com/classr...naval-battles/

Plus ljudi sigurno idu gledati igrane filmove zbog povijesne točnosti.... Koja sama po sebi jedva da postoji

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Staro 16.11.2024., 18:42   #31174
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Opet je tu određeni kontrast između mornaričkih "bitki" i borbe s morskim psima. Što kaže kolega udarnik, puno filmova s realnosti nema nikakve veze, ali ako film graniči s parodijom, ja ću radije onda neku parodiju pogledati.
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Staro 16.11.2024., 18:53   #31175
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Staro 16.11.2024., 19:26   #31176
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Hm, moguće, jedino što glumi Connie Nielsen umjesto Leslie.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 16.11.2024., 22:43   #31177
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Kad smo kod Leslie Nielsena, u nedostatku dobrih komedija, nabavio sam si u videoteci Police Squad / Naked Gun epizode (25 min svaka) koje su prethodile filmu. Preporučam tko nije gledao
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Staro 17.11.2024., 08:08   #31178
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Evo šta kažu lokalni kritičari na G2
https://ravnododna.com/gladiator-ii-...esku-koloseja/
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Staro 17.11.2024., 10:08   #31179
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osvrtnik pohvalio, nije da je on mjerilo neko ali obično nam se slažu ''ocjene'' filmova



ovdje se daju jedinice, neko drugi hvali, jebo internet
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Staro 17.11.2024., 11:12   #31180
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Film je loša kopija orginala i to je to, a i ne bi me čudilo da netko složi side-by-side usporedbu kad su većinu scena i kadrova iskopirali do te isforsirane mjere.

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Staro 17.11.2024., 11:30   #31181
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A bilo je glupo za očekivati da nastwvak može biti bolji od ovoga

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I25Wp6...VzIG1lcmlkaXVz

Inače, Crow je bio bijesan na redatelja jer je ubio Maximusa, rekao je u jednom intervju da su mogli komodno snimiti još par filmova.

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Staro 17.11.2024., 15:45   #31182
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Pokušao gledati, ali ne ide....a gotovo nikad ne odustanem od filma. Ovo je žalosno....
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Staro 17.11.2024., 21:06   #31183
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Pogledao Twister 2. Meni neloš film. Taman da svoje misli pošaljem u tornado
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Staro 19.11.2024., 09:20   #31185
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https://www.historyskills.com/classr...naval-battles/

Plus ljudi sigurno idu gledati igrane filmove zbog povijesne točnosti.... Koja sama po sebi jedva da postoji
da, znam da su se održavale pomorske bitke u koloseumu, poanta je u je*enim morskim psima. Mogli su dodati i polarne medvjede i pirane unutra kad su već krenuli s tom parodijom tako da mi nije jasno zbog čega onda daješ link na povijesno točne činjenice o pomorskim bitkama u koloseumu kad ti nije bitno jel to uistinu bilo tako ili nije


no da, glup ja jer sam očekivao da film baziran na povjesnom periodu ima u sebi povijesne točnosti. U svakom slučaju film je teža woke banana
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Nakon prvog Gladijatora teško je očekivati da će itko biti oduševljen sa bilo kakvim pokušajem nastavka. Pogotovo ako će gurat neke woke gluposti ili morske pse i slične stvari koje nemaju smisla
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Staro 19.11.2024., 09:29   #31187
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Ja da budem iskren, sutra idem gledati, ja sam puuuuno očekivao jer je Denzel u filmu.

Ali da, razinu prvog filma, teško će postići, s obizorm da zadnjih 10-tak godina nije izašlo ništa na toj razini.

Vrijeme kvalitetne filmografije je prošlo ja mislim.
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Negdje sam pročitao recenziju da je G2 nekakav 'Best of' G1
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Nakon prvog Gladijatora teško je očekivati da će itko biti oduševljen sa bilo kakvim pokušajem nastavka. Pogotovo ako će gurat neke woke gluposti ili morske pse i slične stvari koje nemaju smisla
ma nije istina, nije G1 bio sad ne znam kakvo neponovljivo remek djelo, bio je samo dobar. Pa mnogi nastavci mnogih filmova su ispali bolji od prvog dijela. No ovo kako su unakazili G2 je isto što su učinili i s Matrix4 - dali nekom pacijentu da napiše scenario i platili zvučnom redatelju da se potpiše na to smeće samo kako bi valjda odradili kvotu studija za blockbustere za tu godinu

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Ja da budem iskren, sutra idem gledati, ja sam puuuuno očekivao jer je Denzel u filmu.
takvo wokresko sranje ne može spasiti ni Denzel, a pogotovo kad mu daju da glumi pederastog lika
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takvo wokresko sranje ne može spasiti ni Denzel, a pogotovo kad mu daju da glumi pederastog lika
Da ti budem iskren, nisam provjerio ni jedan jedini trailer, komentare ne želim ni čitati. Čak sam neki dan bio u kinu i kada je bio trailer G2, sam prežmirio.
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Bravo, samo hrabro!
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Bravo, samo hrabro!
Ma to je jedan od filmova koji sam čekao, ali eto, očito će biti ono što nisam očekivao.
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A tek kad vidiš razloge radi kojih se sve to počne odvijati, počet ćeš kolutati očima.
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A tek kad vidiš razloge radi kojih se sve to počne odvijati, počet ćeš kolutati očima.
Vjerujem.
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Gladiator II je IMHO loš film ponajviše radi toga, jer je loša kopija prvog i Denzel k tome opet glumi Alonza i to smo imali prilike vidjeti već u prvom, a kasnije i u drugom traileru (1 - 2). Nikakve woke pizdarije ovaj put nisu krive za loš film, već krivnja ide isključivo na činjenicu da ovo nitko nije tražil, a kamoli još jedan nastavak tak da ispadne trilogija. Primjera radi, odlična Rome serija također po takvome ima tzv. woke elemente, jer jebiga kroz cijelu njihovu povijest ih prati glas da vole isti spol, pa nikome nije palo na pamet da tu seriju prekriži radi tu i tamo kakve scene, kakvih samo u prolazu ima u ovom lošem Training Day Gladiator nastavku do te mjere da je čak i ova scena uspjela biti isforsirana.
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Ali da, razinu prvog filma, teško će postići, s obizorm da zadnjih 10-tak godina nije izašlo ništa na toj razini.
Filmovi koje sam gledao a kojih se mogu sjetiti da jesu na adekvatnoj razini (ja nisam baš neki fan gladijajatora, meni je npr. bolji bio centurion) i da su izašli tijekom proteklih 6-7 godina:

Late night with the devil (2024)
Red room (2023)
When evil lurks (2023)
Nefarious (2023)
Killers of the flower moon (2023)
John Wich: Chapter 4 (2023)
Dream Scenario (2023)
Reptile (2023)
The black phone (2022)
Moonfall (2022)
The pale blue eye (2022)
Nope (2022)
The matrix resurrection (2021)
Don't look up (2021)
The unforgivable (2021)
Ferry (2021)
The silencing (2020)
The father (2020)
Tenet (2020)
New order (2020)
Coma (2020)
Rogue city (2020)
Doctor sleep (2019)
John Wich; Chapter 3 - Parabellum (2019)
Parasite (2019)
The gangster, the cop, the devil (2019)
Captive state (2019)
The Mandela effect (2019)
Us (2019)
Knives out (2019)
Den of thieves (2018)
Terminal (2018)
Dragged across concrete (2018)
Unstoppable (2018)
The purity of vengeance (2018)
Bird box (2018)
Under the silver lake (2018)
Extinction (2018)
The snowman (2017)
Shot caller (2017)
John Wich: Chapter 2 (2017)
Logan lucky (2017)
The outlaws (2017)
Alien: covenant (2017)
Eteros ego (2017)
Get out (2017)

Sve je to naravno subjektivno, ali ovo su objektivno kvalitetno snimljeni filmovi. Ima filmova koji kiksaju u nečemu ali rasturaju negdje drugdje (JW, hint hint), drugi su bazirani na nekom gimmicku (extinction) do treći imaju dublju priču za ispričati, koja se pomalo razvija sa svakim idućim gledanjem (takvih je na listi možda i najviše; get out, us, nefarious, the mandela effect, when evil lurks...)

Ima hrpa objektivno dobrih filmova koje ja ne gledam jer me ne zanima žanr. Ima filmova na ovoj listi koji su mnogim ljudima loši, smiješni ili šta ti ja znam. Ali kazati da nema filmova na nivou gladijajatora po meni je deplasirano.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Film gdje Crowe kaže:
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My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the TRUE emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
i novi Matrix, Moonfall i John Wick 2 i 3 u istu rečenicu?

Kvalitetni filmovi zadnjih 10 godina za mene su:
Interstellar
Inception
Gone Girl
Blade Runner
Imitation Game
Dunkirk
Spotlight
Whiplash
Arrival
Hacksaw Ridge
Bridge of Spies
Sicario
Room
Fury
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Mislim, subjektivnost je jedno. Suludost je drugo.

Vidim da si zbunjen, pa da te vratim na pravi put:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12iorWj83P0
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Znači ima "kvalitetnih" filmova zadnjih deset godina? Toliko o zbunjenosti.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Znači ima "kvalitetnih" filmova zadnjih deset godina? Toliko o zbunjenosti.
Čitati s razumijevanjem.
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Ali da, razinu prvog filma, teško će postići, s obizorm da zadnjih 10-tak godina nije izašlo ništa na toj razini.
NIGDJE ne piše da nema kvalitetnih filmova, samo da nema na razini Gladiatora kvalitetnih.
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