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Staro 16.06.2024., 08:34   #3301
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Samo da priupitam, hw akceleracija u chrome based browserima u youtubeu je i dalje hit or miss? Vidim FF lipo radi, CPU ne ide preko 20% ali Vivaldi je banana i ide do 50-80% ovisno o videu. Vent vristi, jasno. Jucer sam cijelu vecer nesto pokusavao i borio se sa flagovima itd... Vainfo uredno reporta koje codece podrzava (ciljam na VP9 u mom slucaju). Fedora wayland.

Imate neki ok link za skuziti kako rade ti desktop fajlovi, to ne mogu bas nikako skuziti i tesko mi je to prihvatiti jer izgleda kao nesto ful banalno.

Vodio sam se po ovom tomekovom postu kod inicijalnog setupa, makar rucno sam to sve odradio jer ne koristim ansible
http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?p=3741933
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Staro 16.06.2024., 08:55   #3302
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Samo da priupitam, hw akceleracija u chrome based browserima u youtubeu je i dalje hit or miss? Vidim FF lipo radi, CPU ne ide preko 20% ali Vivaldi je banana i ide do 50-80% ovisno o videu. Vent vristi, jasno. Jucer sam cijelu vecer nesto pokusavao i borio se sa flagovima itd... Vainfo uredno reporta koje codece podrzava (ciljam na VP9 u mom slucaju). Fedora wayland.

Imate neki ok link za skuziti kako rade ti desktop fajlovi, to ne mogu bas nikako skuziti i tesko mi je to prihvatiti jer izgleda kao nesto ful banalno.

Vodio sam se po ovom tomekovom postu kod inicijalnog setupa, makar rucno sam to sve odradio jer ne koristim ansible
http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?p=3741933
Cini se da nisi jedini s tim problemom nazalost...

https://www.reddit.com/r/vivaldibrow...eo_on_youtube/

Zadnjih par godina koristim iskljucivo FF tak da sam tu out nazalost....
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Staro 16.06.2024., 09:03   #3303
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Dosta slicnih slucajeva sam procitao, ovaj konkretan topic nisam (budem svakako).

Neki su cak sa flagovima uspjeli rijesiti problem, ali kao sto rekoh, zapeo sam s tim desktop fileom, nemam bas jasnu sliku sto trebam tu napraviti (vidi zadnji, prilicno friski post!): https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/9285...on-on-intel/14
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Staro 16.06.2024., 09:34   #3304
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jesi probao tu liniju roknuti u terminal ?

ako ti radi, mozes editirati desktop file
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Staro 16.06.2024., 09:36   #3305
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Dosta slicnih slucajeva sam procitao, ovaj konkretan topic nisam (budem svakako).

Neki su cak sa flagovima uspjeli rijesiti problem, ali kao sto rekoh, zapeo sam s tim desktop fileom, nemam bas jasnu sliku sto trebam tu napraviti (vidi zadnji, prilicno friski post!): https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/9285...on-on-intel/14

To je relativno lagano. Brijem da si samo RPM instalirao ili? Ovu komandu inace mozes direktno u terminalu izvesti i testirat dali ce ti to pomoci. Ako da - onda tek editiras desktop fajl (imaj na umu da ce ga svaki update Vivaldija po defaultu prepisat). Kad potvrdis da rijesava tvoj problem moras kao root slijedeci fajl editirat:


Code:
/usr/share/applications/vivaldi-stable.desktop
I editirat ovaj redak:


Code:
Exec=/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable %U
Da bude:
Code:
Exec=/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --enable-features=VaapiVideoDecodeLinuxGL --use-gl=angle --use-angle=gl %U
Vidi jel ti to pomaze...ako da napravit cemo workaround jos za prepisivanje .desktop fajla kod Upgrade-a.




P.S.- testirao upravo kod sebe - CPU je imao spike na 40% al se 90% vremena drzi oko 5% na 1080p videu. No upada mi nekaj drugo u oko:


Code:
/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --enable-features=VaapiVideoDecodeLinuxGL --use-gl=angle --use-angle=gl
[33237:33237:0616/093757.184405:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(260)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 1 times!
[33237:33237:0616/093757.185619:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(260)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 2 times!
[33193:33193:0616/093803.540844:ERROR:CONSOLE(242)] "<webview>: Script cannot be injected into content until the page has loaded.", source: extensions::webView (242)
Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file: No such file: (null)
[33193:33193:0616/093804.600970:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "Unchecked runtime.lastError: Cannot access contents of url "https://www.youtube.com/". Extension manifest must request permission to access this host.", source: chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/window.html (0)
[33193:33193:0616/093804.601009:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "Unchecked runtime.lastError: Cannot access contents of url "https://www.youtube.com/". Extension manifest must request permission to access this host.", source: chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/window.html (0)
[33193:33193:0616/093815.242488:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "Unchecked runtime.lastError: Cannot access contents of url "https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gran+turismo+7+". Extension manifest must request permission to access this host.", source: chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/window.html (0)
[33193:33193:0616/093817.684256:ERROR:extension_host.cc(416)] Received EventAck for extension jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah for an unknown event.
[33193:33193:0616/093817.695002:ERROR:extension_host.cc(416)] Received EventAck for extension jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah for an unknown event.
[33237:33729:0616/093817.755470:ERROR:vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1235)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool
[33193:33193:0616/093818.203502:ERROR:extension_host.cc(416)] Received EventAck for extension jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah for an unknown event.
[33193:33193:0616/093818.213630:ERROR:extension_host.cc(416)] Received EventAck for extension jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah for an unknown event.
[33237:33745:0616/093818.252381:ERROR:vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1235)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool
[33193:33193:0616/093818.560632:ERROR:extension_host.cc(416)] Received EventAck for extension jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah for an unknown event.
[33193:33193:0616/093818.565394:ERROR:extension_host.cc(416)] Received EventAck for extension jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah for an unknown event.
[33237:33768:0616/093818.622785:ERROR:vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1235)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool
[33237:34080:0616/093848.833283:ERROR:vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1235)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool
[33237:34352:0616/093919.074317:ERROR:vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1235)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool
[33237:34477:0616/093932.879955:ERROR:vaapi_video_decoder.cc(1235)] failed Initialize()ing the frame pool
[33237:33237:0616/094032.973096:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(260)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed for 3 times!

Ovo mi bas ne izgleda kao ispeglan komad softwera....

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: tomek@vz. 16.06.2024. u 09:43.
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Staro 16.06.2024., 13:34   #3306
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A ok, moja instalacija je bila kroz flathub jer druge opcije nije bilo kroz software center, znaci tu je bio "problem" zasto komanda ne radi u terminalu. Ili sam upisivao krivi path za app.

Ukratko, instalirao rucno Vivaldi-stable RPM, pokrenuo Vivaldi kroz terminal i stvar radi

Code:
/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --gtk-version=4 --enable-features=VaapiVideoDecodeLinuxGL --use-gl=angle --use-angle=gl %U
CPU je na oko 15-20% za 4k sadrzaj uz tu i tamo spajk na 40% (valjda kod bufferanja), vent je miran, temp je ok. Isto se ponasa kao FF i to je rekao bih ok!

Nemam toliko errora kao ti, svega par komada za gl_surface_presentation_helper... Vjerojatno nebitno.

Vidim i kroz vivaldi://gpu da je hw decoding upaljen i napokon mi na dnu ispisuje Video Acceleration Information za decoding (to je prije bila prazna rubrika). Sve je tamo, H264, VP9, HEVC.

Probao sam zamijeniti exec kako si gore napisao, sejvao, ali nista se ne dogadja. Pokrenem browser klik na ikonu i HWA ne radi, ponasa se kao defaultna instalacija.
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Staro 16.06.2024., 14:49   #3307
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A ok, moja instalacija je bila kroz flathub jer druge opcije nije bilo kroz software center, znaci tu je bio "problem" zasto komanda ne radi u terminalu. Ili sam upisivao krivi path za app.

Ukratko, instalirao rucno Vivaldi-stable RPM, pokrenuo Vivaldi kroz terminal i stvar radi

Code:
/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --gtk-version=4 --enable-features=VaapiVideoDecodeLinuxGL --use-gl=angle --use-angle=gl %U
CPU je na oko 15-20% za 4k sadrzaj uz tu i tamo spajk na 40% (valjda kod bufferanja), vent je miran, temp je ok. Isto se ponasa kao FF i to je rekao bih ok!

Nemam toliko errora kao ti, svega par komada za gl_surface_presentation_helper... Vjerojatno nebitno.

Vidim i kroz vivaldi://gpu da je hw decoding upaljen i napokon mi na dnu ispisuje Video Acceleration Information za decoding (to je prije bila prazna rubrika). Sve je tamo, H264, VP9, HEVC.

Probao sam zamijeniti exec kako si gore napisao, sejvao, ali nista se ne dogadja. Pokrenem browser klik na ikonu i HWA ne radi, ponasa se kao defaultna instalacija.

Uvijek preferiraj nativnu instalaciju ako je dostupna, kroz sluzbene repoziitorije ili direktno od developera (respektabilnih barem). Flatpak je zadnja opcija jer sam cesto primjetio da aplikacije najcesce ne iskoristavaju puni potencijal koje mogu na toj distri.
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Staro 23.06.2024., 06:49   #3308
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Mislim da je vrijeme da se systemd malo limitira u kontroliranju Linux OS-a.



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"A good portion of my home directory got deleted," complained a bug report for systemd filed last week. It requested an update to a flag for the systemd-tmpfiles tool which cleans up files and directories: "a huge warning next to --purge. This option is dangerous, so it should be made clear that it's dangerous."

The Register explains: As long as five years ago, systemd-tmpfiles had moved on past managing only temporary files — as its name might suggest to the unwary. Now it manages all sorts of files created on the fly ... such as things like users' home directories. If you invoke the systemd-tmpfiles --purge command without specifying that very important config file which tells it which files to handle, version 256 will merrily purge your entire home directory.
The bug report first drew a cool response from systemd developer Luca Boccassi of Microsoft: So an option that is literally documented as saying "all files and directories created by a tmpfiles.d/ entry will be deleted", that you knew nothing about, sounded like a "good idea"? Did you even go and look what tmpfiles.d entries you had beforehand? Maybe don't just run random commands that you know nothing about, while ignoring what the documentation tells you? Just a thought eh
But the report then triggered "much discussion," reports Phoronix. Some excerpts:
  • Lennart Poettering: "I think we should fail --purge if no config file is specified on the command line. I see no world where an invocation without one would make sense, and it would have caught the problem here."
  • Red Hat open source developer Zbigniew JÄ(TM)drzejewski-Szmek: "We need to rethink how --purge works. The principle of not ever destroying user data is paramount. There can be commands which do remove user data, but they need to be minimized and guarded."
  • Systemd contributor Betonhaus: "Having a function that declares irreplaceable files — such as the contents of a home directory — to be temporary files that can be easily purged, is at best poor user interfacing design and at worst a severe design flaw."
But in the end, Phoronix writes, systemd-tmpfiles behavior "is now improved upon."

"Merged Wednesday was this patch that now makes systemd-tmpfiles accept a configuration file when running purge. That way the user must knowingly supply the configuration file(s) to which files they would ultimately like removed. The documentation has also been improved upon to make the behavior more clear."
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Nije programiranje za svakoga
Uvijek se nađe neki developer koji brani svoju uvrnutu logiku razmišljanja i ne kuži da to kako si je on zamislio da nešto treba raditi ne odgovara svima.
Ovdje me više brine nedostatak analitičkog razmišljanja prije nego je to isprogramirano, a i testiranje koje očito nije provedeno u dovoljnom opsegu.
Ali da, zabrinjavajuće je kako se gura systemd sve dublje u OS.
Kao init sustav systemd koncept uopće nije loš, dapače, ali development pati od megalomanije za preuzimanjem svih funkcija OSa.
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Više nije GNU/Linux nego Systemd/Linux.
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Staro 23.06.2024., 09:07   #3311
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Više nije GNU/Linux nego Systemd/Linux.

Prije GNU/SystemD/Linux. Gnu alati su fala Bogu jos uvijek netaknuti
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Systemd: The 2017 Pwnie Winner For Lamest Vendor Response
https://pwnies.com/systemd-bugs/

Where you are dereferencing null pointers, or writing out of bounds, or not supporting fully qualified domain names, or giving root privileges to any user whose name begins with a number, there’s no chance that the CVE number will referenced in either the change log or the commit message. But CVEs aren’t really our currency any more, and only the lamest of vendors gets a Pwnie!
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Systemd: The 2017 Pwnie Winner For Lamest Vendor Response
https://pwnies.com/systemd-bugs/

Where you are dereferencing null pointers, or writing out of bounds, or not supporting fully qualified domain names, or giving root privileges to any user whose name begins with a number, there’s no chance that the CVE number will referenced in either the change log or the commit message. But CVEs aren’t really our currency any more, and only the lamest of vendors gets a Pwnie!

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Uvijek se nađe neki developer koji brani svoju uvrnutu logiku razmišljanja i ne kuži da to kako si je on zamislio da nešto treba raditi ne odgovara svima.
Ovo je istina. Jedino bih promijenio "svima" u "gotovo nikome".
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The transition to Wayland is nearing completion for most desktop Linux users. The most popular desktop Linux distribution in the world, Ubuntu, has made the call and is switching its NVIDIA users over to Wayland by default in the upcoming release of Ubuntu 24.10.
The proprietary NVIDIA graphics driver has been the hold-out on Ubuntu in sticking to the GNOME X.Org session out-of-the-box rather than Wayland as has been the default for the past several releases when using other GPUs/drivers. But for Ubuntu 24.10, the plan is to cross that threshold for NVIDIA now that their official driver has much better Wayland support and has matured into great shape. Particularly with the upcoming NVIDIA R555 driver reaching stable very soon, the Wayland support is in great shape with features like explicit sync ready to use.
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This is great news for the Linux desktop, as having such a popular Linux distribution defaulting the users of the most popular graphics card brand to X.org created a major holdout. None of this obviously means that Wayland is perfect or that all use cases are covered – accessibility is an important use case where tooling simply hasn’t been optimised yet for Wayland, but work is underway – and for those of us who prefer X.org for a variety of reasons, there are still countless distributions offering it as a fallback or as the default option.

Nisam bas pro Ubuntu ali po ovome nvidia je konacno "Wayland ready".
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Što napraviti kad za neku distru ne postoji Linux headers paket u verziji kernela? Moram updateati firmware na 10 Gb mrežnim karticama i bez toga ne mogu instalirati niccli utility i sliff driver, a drugi bnxtnvm utility neće napraviti ni online i offline update, vjerojatno je Supermicro nešto promijenio u samom kodu. Server ima Broadcom BCM57416 NIC i nakon upgradea na Proxmox VE 8.2 ta kombinacija nikako ne radi stabilno.

EDIT: Ma uvalit ću Windows 11 gore samo da updateam taj firmware, previše vremena sam izgubio...
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Što napraviti kad za neku distru ne postoji Linux headers paket u verziji kernela? Moram updateati firmware na 10 Gb mrežnim karticama i bez toga ne mogu instalirati niccli utility i sliff driver, a drugi bnxtnvm utility neće napraviti ni online i offline update, vjerojatno je Supermicro nešto promijenio u samom kodu. Server ima Broadcom BCM57416 NIC i nakon upgradea na Proxmox VE 8.2 ta kombinacija nikako ne radi stabilno.

EDIT: Ma uvalit ću Windows 11 gore samo da updateam taj firmware, previše vremena sam izgubio...

Proxmox je malo mutav. Treba ti odgovarajuci pve-headers paket. Svaka normalna distra ima kernel headers ili kernel-source ili kernel-devel.



P.S:- Proxmox 8.2.2:


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apt search linux-headers
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
linux-headers-6.1.0-15-amd64/stable 6.1.66-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-15-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-15-cloud-amd64/stable 6.1.66-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-15-cloud-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-15-common/stable 6.1.66-1 all
  Common header files for Linux 6.1.0-15

linux-headers-6.1.0-15-common-rt/stable 6.1.66-1 all
  Common header files for Linux 6.1.0-15-rt

linux-headers-6.1.0-15-rt-amd64/stable 6.1.66-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-15-rt-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-18-amd64/stable 6.1.76-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-18-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-18-cloud-amd64/stable 6.1.76-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-18-cloud-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-18-common/stable 6.1.76-1 all
  Common header files for Linux 6.1.0-18

linux-headers-6.1.0-18-common-rt/stable 6.1.76-1 all
  Common header files for Linux 6.1.0-18-rt

linux-headers-6.1.0-18-rt-amd64/stable 6.1.76-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-18-rt-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-21-amd64/stable-security 6.1.90-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-21-amd64

linux-headers-6.1.0-21-cloud-amd64/stable-security 6.1.90-1 amd64
  Header files for Linux 6.1.0-21-cloud-amd64



apt search pve-headers
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
pve-headers/stable 8.2.0 all
  Default Proxmox Kernel Headers (transitional package)

pve-headers-6.1/stable,now 7.3-4 all [installed,automatic]
  Latest Proxmox VE Kernel Headers

pve-headers-6.1.10-1-pve/stable,now 6.1.10-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
  Proxmox Kernel Headers

pve-headers-6.2/stable 8.0.5 all
  Proxmox Kernel Headers for 6.2 series (transitional package)

pve-headers-6.2.16-1-pve/stable 6.2.16-1 amd64
  Proxmox Kernel Headers

pve-headers-6.2.16-2-pve/stable 6.2.16-2 amd64
  Proxmox Kernel Headers

pve-headers-6.2.16-3-pve/stable 6.2.16-3 amd64
  Proxmox Kernel Headers

pve-headers-6.2.16-4-pve/stable 6.2.16-5 amd64
  Proxmox Kernel Headers

pve-headers-6.2.16-5-pve/stable 6.2.16-6 amd64
  Proxmox Kernel Headers
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Ne znam tko je mutaviji, Proxmox ili Supermicro. Nemam ništa pod headers niti pve-headers. U Windowsima također ništa od updatea firmwarea, ali barem niccli radi pa sam zasad isključio RDMA, nije potreban. Pratim situaciju pa ako opet bude problema, nema druge nego kontaktirati Supermicro za njihov custom firmware.

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/br...el-6-8.146185/
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jesi napravio apt update pa apt search ?
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Jesam, vraća samo linux-headers-6.1, a to ne odgovara.

Isključivanje RDMA zasad daje dobre rezultate, vidjet ću koliko dugo.
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Jesam, vraća samo linux-headers-6.1, a to ne odgovara.

Isključivanje RDMA zasad daje dobre rezultate, vidjet ću koliko dugo.

Koje repozitorije imas ukljucene? Nije da pve-headers koji trebas skrivaju iza enterprise repozitorija....
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Nisam bas pro Ubuntu ali po ovome nvidia je konacno "Wayland ready".
To bi značilo da se uskoro mogu probat vratit na wayland.
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Koje repozitorije imas ukljucene? Nije da pve-headers koji trebas skrivaju iza enterprise repozitorija....
Evo output...

Code:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list
#deb https://enterprise.proxmox.com/debian/ceph-quincy bookworm enterprise
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/ceph-quincy bookworm no-subscription

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pve-enterprise.list
#deb https://enterprise.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-enterprise
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-no-subscription
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Evo output...

Code:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list
#deb https://enterprise.proxmox.com/debian/ceph-quincy bookworm enterprise
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/ceph-quincy bookworm no-subscription

cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pve-enterprise.list
#deb https://enterprise.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-enterprise
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pve-no-subscription
A koji kernel vrtis? (uname -r)

E jesu ga zakomplicirali...to je ono kaj mrzim kod proxmoxa - izmisljaju toplu vodu.

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/in...ailure.138509/
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HDD diskovi.

Sta god kopira sa ili na NAS, cilinl sustav postane unresponsive.
RAM je standardno uvik pun (ZFS), ssh radi, ali njegov gui je mrtav.
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A koji kernel vrtis? (uname -r)

E jesu ga zakomplicirali...to je ono kaj mrzim kod proxmoxa - izmisljaju toplu vodu.

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/in...ailure.138509/
6.8.8-2-pve

Ma nema veze, zasad mi veza radi stabilno. Migracija VM-ova će potrajati koji dan, ide s drugog kontinenta preko SSH i LTE routera pa je to dobar test.
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6.8.8-2-pve

Ma nema veze, zasad mi veza radi stabilno. Migracija VM-ova će potrajati koji dan, ide s drugog kontinenta preko SSH i LTE routera pa je to dobar test.

Optimalno Cekiram ti sutra na instanci koju imam na poslu pa ti javim just in case....


@Ivo > sto god da sam dosad testirao - LVM+EXT4 je jedina pametna kombinacija za Homelab. ZFS nije optimiran za performanse vec sigurnost podataka. Osobno imam posla samo sa 3 Debian ZFS stroja na kojem se vrti Docker Swarm i vec su 2 put se skrsilo nekoliko diskova (HP Gen5....staro ko biblija) - nikad nismo izgubili ni bita. Al da je brz - nije.
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6.8.8-2-pve

Ma nema veze, zasad mi veza radi stabilno. Migracija VM-ova će potrajati koji dan, ide s drugog kontinenta preko SSH i LTE routera pa je to dobar test.

Yep kreteni su usrali motku. Moras dodat pvetest repo:


Code:
deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm pvetest
I onda ide instalacija aktualnog proxmox-headers paketa (meta paket pve-headers isto sljaka jos zasad).



Code:
apt install pve-headers-$(uname -r)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve' instead of 'pve-headers-6.8.8-2-pve'
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 13.7 MB of archives.
After this operation, 97.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve bookworm/pve-no-subscription amd64 proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve amd64 6.8.8-2 [13.7 MB]
Fetched 13.7 MB in 0s (33.8 MB/s)
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
Selecting previously unselected package proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve.
(Reading database ... 135788 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve_6.8.8-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve (6.8.8-2) ...
Setting up proxmox-headers-6.8.8-2-pve (6.8.8-2) ...
Scanning processes...
Scanning processor microcode...
Scanning linux images...

Running kernel seems to be up-to-date.

The processor microcode seems to be up-to-date.

No services need to be restarted.

No containers need to be restarted.

No user sessions are running outdated binaries.

No VM guests are running outdated hypervisor (qemu) binaries on this host.
P.S.- pvetest nebi ostavljao aktivnim na prod instalaciji pa ga disejblaj nakon instalacije headera.

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: tomek@vz. 27.06.2024. u 08:46.
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TrueNas Scale mi je smeće na kompu.
Imam Z600 workstation:
Xeon 12 cores
12GB RAM
HDD diskovi.

Sta god kopira sa ili na NAS, cilinl sustav postane unresponsive.
RAM je standardno uvik pun (ZFS), ssh radi, ali njegov gui je mrtav.

Brijem da ga koristis za storage, virtualke i docker ili?


Razmisli alternativno o necem vise basic kaj se GUI tice al fleksibilnijem. I brzem....Mene za tu namjenu Fedora + KVM + docker/podman + samba + Cockpit vec godinama zadovoljavaju u potpunosti. Ispod je dosad bio uvijek LVM+EXT4 i nikad ni da stucne. Trenutno experimentiram sa BTRFS-om zadnjih godinu dana. Dosta zreliji FS nego je bio ali jos uvijek tu i tamo na neku glupu musicu naletim tak da ga i dalje nebih preporucio osim ak ti je experimentalni homelab.
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