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Staro 06.06.2024., 22:48   #3271
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Ne znam što ste se toliko za log uhvatili, pa dao sam par desetaka linija. Htio sam da se vidi malo šire što se dešava. Miopija često šteti.

Evo ti ovo za sada.

Code:
root@fedora:~# resolvectl 
Global
         Protocols: LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported 
  resolv.conf mode: stub 

Link 2 (enp6s0)
    Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 
         Protocols: +DefaultRoute LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported 
Current DNS Server: 192.168.1.1 
       DNS Servers: 192.168.1.1 
        DNS Domain: home 

Link 3 (enp42s0)
    Current Scopes: none 
         Protocols: -DefaultRoute LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported
Na enp6s0 sam spojen. Nisam ništa dodatno konfigurirao. Jedino je IPv6 isključen u network manageru, i to se ne čini da čini razliku.

Prebacio sam se sada na enp42s0. Nisam o ovome vodio računa, moguće da sam se i nehotice prebacio s jednog na drugi kada sam zadnji put ubacivao lan u drugi uređaj.

Code:
root@fedora:~# rpm -qa |grep firmware 
alsa-sof-firmware-2024.03-2.fc40.noarch 
linux-firmware-whence-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
amd-gpu-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
amd-ucode-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
atheros-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
brcmfmac-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
cirrus-audio-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
intel-audio-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
intel-gpu-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
mt7xxx-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
nvidia-gpu-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
nxpwireless-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
realtek-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
tiwilink-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
linux-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
iwlegacy-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
iwlwifi-dvm-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
 iwlwifi-mvm-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch 
libertas-firmware-20240513-1.fc40.noarch
Code:
              *-pci:2 
                      description: PCI bridge 
                   product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 
                   vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 
                   physical id: 7 
                   bus info: pci@0000:03:07.0 
                   version: 00 
                   width: 32 bits 
                   clock: 33MHz 
                   capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list 
                   configuration: driver=pcieport 
                   resources: irq:38 ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:fc300000-fc3fffff 
                 *-network 
                      description: Ethernet interface 
                      product: RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller 
                      vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
                      physical id: 0 
                      bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0 
                      logical name: enp6s0 
                      version: 15 
                      serial: 2c:f0:5d:5d:72:7d 
                      capacity: 1Gbit/s 
                      width: 64 bits 
                      clock: 33MHz 
                      capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiatio
n 
                      configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=6.8.11-300.fc40.x86_64 firmware=rtl8168h-2_0.0.2 02/26/15 l
atency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair 
                      resources: irq:37 ioport:e000(size=256) memory:fc304000-fc304fff memory:fc300000-fc303fff 
              *-pci:3 
                   description: PCI bridge 
                   product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 
                   vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 
                   physical id: 9 
                   bus info: pci@0000:03:09.0 
                   version: 00 
                   width: 32 bits 
                   clock: 33MHz 
                   capabilities: pci msi pm pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list 
                   configuration: driver=pcieport 
                   resources: irq:40 ioport:d000(size=4096) memory:fc200000-fc2fffff 
                 *-network 
                      description: Ethernet interface 
                      product: RTL8125 2.5GbE Controller 
                      vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
                      physical id: 0 
                      bus info: pci@0000:2a:00.0 
                      logical name: enp42s0 
                      version: 04 
                      serial: 2c:f0:5d:5d:72:7c 
                      size: 1Gbit/s 
                      capacity: 2500Mbit/s 
                      width: 64 bits 
                      clock: 33MHz 
                      capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd 2500bt-fd 
autonegotiation 
                      configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=6.8.11-300.fc40.x86_64 duplex=full firmware=rtl8125b-2_0.0.
2 07/13/20 ip=192.168.1.111 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=1Gbit/s 
                      resources: irq:39 ioport:d000(size=256) memory:fc200000-fc20ffff memory:fc210000-fc213fff
enp42s0 je 2.5GB. I to je taj na kojeg sam sada spojen.

Code:
journalctl -xe | grep setroubleshoot


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Staro 06.06.2024., 22:52   #3272
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> - vidi da li ostali uređaji doma rade (mobač, laptop,...) - tu odma vidiš jel problem na gedora kompu ili generalno

Više puta sam napisao kako svi ostali uređaji rade uredno kada se ovo dogodi. Torrent na predmetnom računalu također radi normalno kada se ovo dogodi. Log sam da malo više toga zbog konteksta, mislim da se ne može kazati kako sam stavio "cijeli journal".

Dule, to što si linkao se dobro uklapa u ovo što viđam kod sebe. Zanimljivo da je bug otvoren od 2019te. Budem pogledao narednih dana detaljnije što ljudi tamo sugeriraju, ali ne izgleda kako se bude to tako skoro riješilo. Još nisam uočio što bi kod mene bio okidač, mislim da sam koristio browser svaki puta kada je iskočilo iz paštete,

> Imam i ja na mintu toga "Using degraded feature set" koliko hoćeš u logu, ali sve uredno radi.

Ovo je zanimljiva informacija.

Odustajem. Ti si baš ne daš pomoći... ko s malom djecom...
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Staro 06.06.2024., 22:59   #3273
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shadow, ne čitaš što čovjek koji traži pomoć piše. Što očekuješ? I nije ti prvi puta da se tako ponašaš. Hvala na vremenu.


Sada sam već napravio 22 edita, nema smisla. Tomek, ti cronjobovi pojma nemam što rade tamo. Možda neki update? Maknut ću te browsere pošto ih i tako ne koristim i kao pokušavam se skrasiti na librefox. Thorium je instaliran kao RPM, sada sam maknuo. A za vivaldi sam dodao repositorij, maknem i to.
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Da govno je al je standard hocemo ili necemo i mora s tim radit
A zašto točno mora? Znaš kako se kaže u dalmaciji, "ne moran ja ništa".

Linux desktop nije server i nemaš brige da će netko preuzeti tvoj nestandardizirani kaos, i u tom slučaju ne vidim razlog zašto bi se nešto moralo... ljepota Linux desktopa upravo i je u mogućnosti izbora i slobodi customiziranja.
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Znaci da je testirano.
U prijevodu, mora raditi.

To sta ces ti staviti, to je tvoj izbor, ali oni se drze standarda, a to je systemd.
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Sada sam već napravio 22 edita, nema smisla. Tomek, ti cronjobovi pojma nemam što rade tamo. Možda neki update? Maknut ću te browsere pošto ih i tako ne koristim i kao pokušavam se skrasiti na librefox. Thorium je instaliran kao RPM, sada sam maknuo. A za vivaldi sam dodao repositorij, maknem i to.

Ti cronjobovi nisu uzrok problema samo me zanimalo zasto. No da se vratimo tvom problemu. Ono sto me zanimalo koja mrezna zeza i puca veza. Dakle:


1. Puca na Gigabit LAN
2. Imas instaliran ispravan firmware


Mislim da saltanje mreznih nebu pomoglo. Mozes ostavit kao test sad na 2.5G cisto da iskljucimo mogucnost da je 1G kartica neispravna. Tvoj komp uvijek pita Router kao DNS server kad hoce van. Ono kaj bi trebao provjeriti ako budes u mogucnosti - kad se ponovi to sranje - jel mozes pingat router? Da nije da na Routeru nekaj sere pa je Fedora osjetljiva na to...mozda...valjda...testirat.


Suma sumarum - imas skoro identican setup kao i ja - jedina razlika je GUI. TO MORA RADIT DA GA HEBES.



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A zašto točno mora? Znaš kako se kaže u dalmaciji, "ne moran ja ništa".

Linux desktop nije server i nemaš brige da će netko preuzeti tvoj nestandardizirani kaos, i u tom slučaju ne vidim razlog zašto bi se nešto moralo... ljepota Linux desktopa upravo i je u mogućnosti izbora i slobodi customiziranja.
Meni je draza ona da moram guzicu posjest na klupu cim ju vidim (dida mi je iz Rupa porijeklom). E moj Dule da pricamo o sigurnosti da se mene pita systemd bi letio sa server distri dok si reko keks. BSD pristup mi je na severima iskreno drazi....Ako nesto na serveru ne zelim je automatizacija koja pokusava biti pametnija od (sposobnijih) admina. Samim time je potencijal za ogromnu sigurnosnu rupu i iskreno privat su mi draze distre kao Alpine sve vise i vise. Al hebiga - badava ti odlican OS ak ono kaj trebas gore ne dela il ne dela kak spada. Za desktop Linux systemd je postala kicma za sve ostalo sto mora radit ko "magijom". Kad to iscupas - skrsis previse toga jednostavno na distrama kojima je systemd primani backbone. Systemd je jedna od stvari koju Linux ne treba al bez nje moderan Desktop Linux sustav jednostavno ne funkcionira kak Ivica i Marica ocekuju. Ako imas vremena i znanja - da naravno da mozes raditi sa non-systemd distrom. Ali iskreno - moram priznati da je meni osobno zivot s njim laksi, elegantniji i stvari 99,9% vremena - rade kako je zamisljeno. Kad ne - onda mu hebem mater i sve po spisku.
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> jel mozes pingat router?

Budem probao, ali prilično sam siguran da da, jer mogu sve što sam probao pingat sa IP adresom. Torrenti rade normalno, promet teče.

> TO MORA RADIT DA GA HEBES.

I bit će tako, samo da mu damo malo vremena i živaca

Gledao sam ovaj svoj ruter, nema custom DNS opciju. Koji bi bio najpametniji način za podesiti DNS na kompu? Prošlog puta kada sam to radio sam napravio 15 stvari, možda ipak bolje pitati nego poslije popravljati

Inače, jučer nisam imao nikakvih problema, ali nisam niti palio komp uopće, pa moguće zbog toga. Danas budemo vidjeli što je na meniju.
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A hebemu miša, fino postavi fiksne mrežne postavke za tu mrežnu preko je si spojen,
IP, Subnet, Gateway, DNS1, DNS2.

Većina operatera prilikom svoje idiot customizacije sklanja opciju custom definiranja DNS - ova jer forsiraju svoje.

Fino otvori taj svoj xyz router, ako već nije u DHCP Serveru oslobodi / ostavi si xy IP adresa slobodno za klijente sa fiksnim IP adresama.
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Gledao sam ovaj svoj ruter, nema custom DNS opciju. Koji bi bio najpametniji način za podesiti DNS na kompu? Prošlog puta kada sam to radio sam napravio 15 stvari, možda ipak bolje pitati nego poslije popravljati

U Network Manageru...fino klik klik Ak hoces u konzoli - nmtui (instaliras ak ti fali) ili nmcli.
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Probao sam network manager, izgleda kao logična opcija, međutim kada odem provjeriti na DNS checker onda mi kaže da i dalje koristim one HT DNS adrese.
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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Staro 09.06.2024., 13:04   #3282
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Probao sam network manager, izgleda kao logična opcija, međutim kada odem provjeriti na DNS checker onda mi kaže da i dalje koristim one HT DNS adrese.

Router. Ovako doznas koje DNS-ove ti Fedora koristi:

( nmcli dev list || nmcli dev show ) 2>/dev/null | grep DNS
IP4.DNS[1]: 1.1.1.2
IP4.DNS[2]: 1.0.0.2


Alternativno:
systemd-resolve --status | grep "DNS Servers"
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Opet izletilo.

Pinganje 192.168.1.1 radi bez problema. Ovo i dalje ništa ne vraća.

Code:
root@fedora:~# journalctl -xe | grep setroubleshoot
root@fedora:~#
selinux stavljen na permissive.

Probao "sudo nmcli con reload enp42s0" ali to nije riješilo problem.
Probao "sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager" i to je riješilo problem.
Žao mi je da nisam pogledao što kaže "systemctl status systemd-resolved.service" dok problem traje, budem idući puta.

Stavio sam provizorno Open DNS.

Code:
[mkey@fedora ~]$ ( nmcli dev list || nmcli dev show ) 2>/dev/null | grep DNS
IP4.DNS[1]:                             208.67.222.222
IP4.DNS[2]:                             208.67.220.220
Code:
[mkey@fedora ~]$ systemd-resolve --status | grep "DNS Servers"
       DNS Servers: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
Izgleda da je to prihvatilo. I ovo kazuje isto. https://www.top10vpn.com/tools/what-is-my-dns-server/
Vjerojatno treba jedan restart network managera da prihvati?

nikky opet precjenujuje moje znanje mreža, fatalna greška.Ovo su moje DHCP postavke na ruteru. Ipak ima DNS pa sam ga i tu postavio.-> https://imgur.com/a/WjQuDGI

Ovo su network manager postavke. -> https://imgur.com/RK17NXb (SS pokazuje 110, postavio sam na 100 na kraju)

Meni je ovaj GUI bio toliko jasan da sam na kraju posegnuo za terminalom. Ako je GUI manje jasan od komandi u terminalu onda znaš da nešto nije u redu Mrzim to reći, ali ekvivalentne postavke u windowsima su ipak puno jasnije.

Code:
nmcli con mod "Wired connection 2" ipv4.addresses "192.168.1.100" ipv4.gateway "192.168.1.1" ipv4.dns "208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220" ipv4.dns-search "fedora" ipv4.method "manual"
Potvrdio sam fiksnu IP adresu i na ruteru, pa to bi valjda bilo OK. Ruter kaže 100. -> https://i.imgur.com/5jKHPDt.png

Nisam siguran zašto ifconfig kaže 111.

Code:
root@fedora:~# ifconfig
enp42s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
        inet 192.168.1.111  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.1.255
        ether 2c:f0:5d:5d:72:7c  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
        RX packets 13638411  bytes 2278532391 (2.1 GiB)
        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
        TX packets 29224194  bytes 16596583333 (15.4 GiB)
         TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
Prošao sam prethodne postove, mislim da nisam ništa preskočio.


EDIT: ifconfig pokazuje 100 nakon reboota.
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DHCP Server pool si stavio od 192.168.1.110 do 192.168.1.199,
znači da za klijente sa fiksnim mrežnim postavkama imaš na raspolaganju od 192.168.1.2 do 192.168.1.109 + još odr, br adresa "na kraju" do 192.168.1.254.
Dakle, za taj komp stavi recimo IP = 192.168.1.5, za svaki drugi ide različita IP adresa.

Vidim da si našao gdje se postavlja custom DNS u routeru i na kompu,
kad se već baviš svime tim, nije zgorega da sekundarni bude od drugog "davatelja usluge",
u prevodu za Primarni si stavio Open DNS, za secondary stavi recimo Google (8.8.8.8).

Inače bravo, sve si pohvatao
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I ne mora, jeli može CloudFlare (1.1.1.1) ?
Za žuntu DNS by ISP Sticky > http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=91801
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But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting f*cked by a system that threw them overboard 30 f*cking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this f*cking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich c*cksuckers who don’t give a f*ck about them. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don’t give a f*ck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
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If you are a laptop user, you may want to avoid driver version 550 because there is a megathread on the NVIDIA forum where users are reporting that this version is making their distributions randomly crash.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/0...e-on-a-laptop/
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Novi dan, novi problemi. Naime, primijetio sam da zadnjih par puta (sada već 3 od 3 ukupno, čini mi se prvi puta da je bio problem u subotu) kad napravim shutdown računalo zaglavi u nekoj fazi i ne mrda. Dobijem crni ekran s pointerom od miša. Ne reagira na podražaje osim TTY.

Shutdown kreće odavde (oko 22:15)
Code:
lip 11 22:15:16 fedora systemd[1608]: Started dbus-:1.2-org.kde.LogoutPrompt@0.service.
Tri minute kasnije odustajem i idem ručno napraviti CTRL+ALT+F3, login, shutdown -h now:
Code:
lip 11 22:18:13 fedora login[20081]: LOGIN ON tty3 BY mkey
Linkao sam opširniji log, koji vidim da je krcat porukama od SDDM. Čini mi se kao da upadne u nekakvu petlju i pokušava unloadati input devices i onda krenu nekakvi "got pause". I tako vrti dok ja ne interveniram.

https://pastebin.com/AdgU5EqK

Jedino što mi pada na pamet je sitan povremen problem kojeg imam s MX Master 3S i njegom donglom. Svako toliko (možda jednom od deset puta) kod dizanja iz standby miš kao da nije prepoznat, pa onda izvadim dongle i vratim ga u isti USB port i onda proradi. Isti problem je bio prisutan i u manjaru. Neki dan se dogodilo da je isti miš ostao prazne baterije i prestao raditi. Onda sam ga spojio na punjač ali nakon toga ga OS više nije prepoznavao odnosno primao input. Prebacio sam se privremeno na starog žičanog MX518 i nešto kasnije master je opet radio.

Imao sam do jučer ugašen verbose boot, sada sam maknuo one dvije opcije iz /etc/default/grub i rebuildao grub.cfg, pa budem vidio kako će se dalje ponašati.

Također bi možda bilo pametno probati s waylandom i provjeriti da li se i tamo dešava.
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Novi dan, novi problemi. Naime, primijetio sam da zadnjih par puta (sada već 3 od 3 ukupno, čini mi se prvi puta da je bio problem u subotu) kad napravim shutdown računalo zaglavi u nekoj fazi i ne mrda. Dobijem crni ekran s pointerom od miša. Ne reagira na podražaje osim TTY.

Shutdown kreće odavde (oko 22:15)
Code:
lip 11 22:15:16 fedora systemd[1608]: Started dbus-:1.2-org.kde.LogoutPrompt@0.service.
Tri minute kasnije odustajem i idem ručno napraviti CTRL+ALT+F3, login, shutdown -h now:
Code:
lip 11 22:18:13 fedora login[20081]: LOGIN ON tty3 BY mkey
Linkao sam opširniji log, koji vidim da je krcat porukama od SDDM. Čini mi se kao da upadne u nekakvu petlju i pokušava unloadati input devices i onda krenu nekakvi "got pause". I tako vrti dok ja ne interveniram.

https://pastebin.com/AdgU5EqK

Jedino što mi pada na pamet je sitan povremen problem kojeg imam s MX Master 3S i njegom donglom. Svako toliko (možda jednom od deset puta) kod dizanja iz standby miš kao da nije prepoznat, pa onda izvadim dongle i vratim ga u isti USB port i onda proradi. Isti problem je bio prisutan i u manjaru. Neki dan se dogodilo da je isti miš ostao prazne baterije i prestao raditi. Onda sam ga spojio na punjač ali nakon toga ga OS više nije prepoznavao odnosno primao input. Prebacio sam se privremeno na starog žičanog MX518 i nešto kasnije master je opet radio.

Imao sam do jučer ugašen verbose boot, sada sam maknuo one dvije opcije iz /etc/default/grub i rebuildao grub.cfg, pa budem vidio kako će se dalje ponašati.

Također bi možda bilo pametno probati s waylandom i provjeriti da li se i tamo dešava.

Ili se neka apikacija ne zeli ugasiti ili te nekaj od HW hebe. Postavio si KDE da se uvijek sa clean seassionom starta nadam se a ne da uvijek vraca sve od prosli puta? Ako smatras da bi te Logi mogao zezat - probaj sa iskljucenim misem pa vidi jel se isto ponasa.


Cekiraj i ovo:

https://itsfoss.com/long-shutdown-li...dirty%20fix%5D


Pa javi rezultate.


P.S.: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=283539


Kod mene je GDM+Gnome....just saying :P
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također GDM+Gnome
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Staro 12.06.2024., 21:25   #3294
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Radije bih se na windows vratio nego da gnome koristim.

Nije niti do jedne aplikacije, na čistom startupu isti problem. Čisti session koristim, pogotovo pošto u 90+% slučajeva koristim standby.

Verbose kernel logging (kako li se to već zove) ne igra ulogu jer izgleda da x server niti ne izađe vanka nego pusti samo crni ekran s funkcionalnim pokazivačem miša. Zanimljiva situacija se dogodila tijekom testiranja gdje sam na desktopu samo konsole imao otvoren, napravim shutdown, crna pozadina, pointer i konsole ostao otvoren. Ukucam reboot, enter i ode dolje bez problema.

Dakle problem je isključivo s shutdown/restart preko GUI iz menija, ne sa reboot/shutdown naredbom koje rade kako spada.

Problem je izgleda riješen s prisilnom reinstalacijom/rebuildanjem nevidijinih sranja. Malo me prckao akmods i nije htio odraditi pa nakon nešto peripetija i bootanja u prethodni kernel ipak je odradio. Užasno je ovo njesra osjetljivo, i ako ne odradi do kraja ne znaš dok ne uletiš u probleme. Pustio sam ga 10 minuta i napravio reboot natrag u 11 kernel.

Code:
sudo dnf remove kmod-nvidia-6.8.11\*
sudo akmods --force --kernels 6.8.11-300.fc40.x86_64
Čini se kako je nevidija OK sada.

Code:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: nvidia v: 550.78 arch: Pascal pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
    active: none off: DP-3 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DVI-D-1, HDMI-A-1
     bus-ID: 2b:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1b81 class-ID: 0300
Napravio restart i shutdown (iz GUI) i odradilo je. Bumo vidjeli.


EDIT:
Što se tiče tih SDDM poruka, drugdje sam našao da se to može komotno ignorirati. Da ga dosta trkelja, i preporučuju ugasiti to logiranje.
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M...da ti nije bio kernel ili driver update? Rebuild nvidia drivera zna potrajat par minuta.


P.S. - znam da mnogi imaju averziju prema Gnome sucelju ali - isprobaj malo druga sucelja...najcesce su bolje ispolirani (barem po mom iskustvu) nego KDE iako nije KDE 6 los. Samo kaj sam uvijek na neke bugove naletio na koje sam popoizdio. Na gnome lupis par extenzija koje ti pasu i vozi misko. Kazem - sprobaj par dana, nemas kaj izgubiti, ak ti se nakon toga ne svidi - hebiga
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Ne znam kada je bio zadnji kernel update, nisam pratio. Moram o tome više voditi računa.

Probao sam tonu DE i KDE mi najviše odgovara, ima sve šta mi treba out of the box. A bugovi kao bugovi, nema gdje ih nema.
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Ima li tko iskustva sa Zorin OS ?
Onako laički, spada li u lakšu ili težu kategoriju (pogotovo za nekog ko je dugo na Winsima) ?
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lakša kategorija.
U suštini Ubuntu sa finim sučeljem.
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Ima li tko iskustva sa Zorin OS ?
Onako laički, spada li u lakšu ili težu kategoriju (pogotovo za nekog ko je dugo na Winsima) ?
Po meni je baš napravljen za brzi prelazak sa Winsa na Linux. Čak ima odmah ugrađeno da možeš instalirati .exe aplikacije. Jedino šta vrti stariju bazu Ubuntua ali nije to nešto loše, barem je stabilno.
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