Nadolazeći AMD socketi, ploče i procesori

[DiRT]

Da, skužio sam i opet ne znam zašto skoro svaki put zeza kad s njihove stranice stavim.

[McG]

A list of new Phenom II series processors were tabled in a company road map. The road map confirms AMD's naming scheme for the Phenom II X6 brand, and also sheds light on a new line of quad-core processors. In the second quarter of this year, AMD will introduce Phenom II X6 six-core models 1075T, 1055T, and 1035T. While the 1075T has a TDP of 125W, the 1055T comes in 125W and 95W variants (likely one following the other), and 1035T is the slowest model with 95W TDP. All Phenom II X6 models are based on the Thuban core (a desktop, socket AM3 implementation of the Istanbul die). Each of the six cores has 128 KB of L1, 512 KB L2 caches, and a 6 MB L3 cache is shared between all cores. The HyperTransport 3.0 interconnect operates at 4.8 GT/s.

The new line of quad-core processors here, is the Phenom II X4 900T series. The first member in this series is the Phenom II X4 960T. These processors are created using Thuban dies by disabling two cores. It helps AMD salvage its foundry produce with minor defects, and also target lower price points. The resulting die is codenamed "Zosma". Zosma in X4 960T has a TDP of 95W. Probably it has a lower clock speed than the "Deneb" Phenom II X4 965, but is placed in the same league, in terms of performance. One of its biggest "unintentional" unique selling points is that since it's based on a die that has six physical cores, some customers could get lucky by unlocking them to a six-core processor, at a much lower price-point. Even as several motherboard manufacturers have innovated ways to unlock disabled cores, and are advertising their unlocking features, it is not guaranteed that a Zosma would unlock into Thuban, just as Callisto/Heka to Deneb unlocking doesn't always work out. Going by AMD's road map, these processors will be released some time in May.

Izvor: techPowerUp

[Milentije]

Autor Sn4k3

Bas me zanima oce li te nove 890GX/FX ploce moci otkljucavati Phenome? Ili ce ko i do sad samo Gigabyte davati tu opciju. Vidim test MSI 890GXM G65 ploce ali niko ne spominje nista u vezi toga...

McG i ekipa već spomenuše jumpere, ali ova ploča to radi na dugmić.

[Gx25]

Ovako vidim da ce Phenom II X4 900T imati podrsku za am2+/am3 maticne pa me zanima da li ce se moci normalno otkljucavati na starijim maticnima s sb710 i sb750 ili ce to biti rezervirano za 890GX/FX ploce?

[Sn4k3]

@Milentije

Heh, dosta prakticno..

[McG]

Autor Gx25

Ovako vidim da ce Phenom II X4 900T imati podrsku za am2+/am3 maticne pa me zanima da li ce se moci normalno otkljucavati na starijim maticnima s sb710 i sb750 ili ce to biti rezervirano za 890GX/FX ploce?

Ako se bude uopće dalo kaj otključati, onda bude to moguće na svim pločama koje nude ACC, UCC ili jumpere i prekidače za iste funkcije u BIOS-u.

[McG]

Just over a month from now AMD will introduce its own desktop-oriented hexa-core processors (codename) Thuban, the first release wave being set to include four chips - the Phenom II X6 1035T, 1055T (in 95W and 125W TDP versions), and the 1075T. The upcoming CPUs have been pretty much confirmed to have 9MB of L3 cache and an integrated DDR3 memory controller, and to be manufactured on 45nm technology but their frequencies have not been revealed, until today.

Courtesy of a couple BIOS updates released by Gigabyte (and leaked CPU support lists), we now know that the X6 1035T will have its six cores set to 2.6 GHz, while the X6 1055T will be set at 2.8 GHz. Expanding on the info available it's clear that the highest-end hexa-core prepped by AMD for next month, the Phenom II X6 1075T will be clocked at 3.0 GHz, 333 MHz under Intel's own Core i7 980X EE. Don't expect AMD's chips to take on Intel's EE models but they should give the LGA 1156 Core i7s a run for their money. Now all we need is the prices.

Izvor: TechConnect Magazine

[dh41400]

Koliko cujem suska se sa brojkom od 300$ za X6 1035T ...

Treba samo docekati prve usporedne testove ... ukoliko budu u rangu soc 1156 i7 proceva, buducnost Thubana i pogotovo Zosme je vrlo svijetla (zbog skrivenog 6-core potencijala).

Jako lijepo =)

[Gx25]

Gigabyte polako izdaje BIOS-e za AM3 i AM2(+) ploče, koji donose podršku za Phenom II X6 procesore.
Danas su izbacili beta BIOS za moju 770 UD3 koji joj donosi podršku za X6 pa slobodno pogledajte za svoje ploče da li postoji takav BIOS.

[Overhaul]

Lijepe vijesti, nadam se da će i DFI sa ovom mojom LAN PARTY DK 790FXB-M2RSH nešto poduzet.
Iako nemam neke nade - zadnji BIOS im je od lani u 8. mjesecu, nadam se da neću morat sad opet prodavat i fakin matičnu i procesor i memoriju.

[Mr.Ex.President]

Ma DFI je posta gadljiv, od firme koja je korisnicima ugađala do neba, do danas, kad su 3 mjeseca prije svih ukinuli ACC pa su se njihovi korisnici morali jebavat sa modanim i beta biosima. AMD ih navodno pritisnuo, ma zamisli, a druge firme kao nije?! Kao Links su jebate, dok su bili mala firmica borili su se za svakog kupca, a danas se ponašaju kao Vemil nekad. Doduše meni ni iz džepa ni u džep, ove 4 jezgre su mi i više nego dovoljne, a za godinu, dvije kad budem mjenjao platformu, ova AM2+ će već bit toliko stara da mi bios za X6 ionako neće ništa značit

[Matth€w]

Hehe, neznam da li ste vidjeli, ali objavljenje su cijene za dva (inače četiri) šestojezgrena procesora od AMD-a, a među njima je i T1090 BE koji ide po cijeni za i7-930. Bit će ovo interesanta "bitka".

TechReport.com

[Jackson]

Autor Mr.Ex.President

Doduše meni ni iz džepa ni u džep, ove 4 jezgre su mi i više nego dovoljne, a za godinu, dvije kad budem mjenjao platformu, ova AM2+ će već bit toliko stara da mi bios za X6 ionako neće ništa značit

A gledaj, ako ne gubiš na performansama, a ploča radi, zašto je ne ostaviti? Meni je baš iznimno drago što je Gigabyte izdao BIOS za ovu moju posranu ploču na kojoj Phenomi II rade jednako brzo kao i na najskupljoj, najnovijoj 890GX ploči. Lijepo je imati najnovije i najsjajnije, ali baš poštujem AMD više nego Intel zato što mi je omogućeno da ovako jeftino (stvarno, za par stotina kuna) nadogradim i dobijem gro performansi zahvaljujući kompatibilnosti tehnologije.

[bluefluid]

AMD Working on Black Edition Phenom II X6 Part

AMD's lineup of six-core desktop processors under the Phenom II X6 banner indeed includes a high-end part. A Bahrain-based etailer disclosed prices of some of the models, which includes a Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition. This chip operates at 3.20 GHz, with a TDP of 125W. Being a Black Edition part, it sports an unlocked BClk multipler that helps overclocking. AMD plans to sell this chip at US $295. The Phenom II X6 1055T is the other part with a price-tag. This 2.80 GHz chip also has its TDP at 125W, although we've lead to believe that AMD will release a 95W variant, too. The 1055T goes for US $199. Both chips are based on the "Thuban" core, which feature six cores on a monolithic die, with 9 MB of total chip cache (512 KB L2 per core, and 6 MB L3 shared).

Phenom II X6 Six-core Product Line-up

AMD's most high-end (and upcoming) six-core Thuban based processor will sell roughly 300 USD. AMD will launch an entire family of chips, including a pair of lower-clock versions, as well as a high-end model with frequencies to match the Gulftown. More recent rumors suggest that AMD's high-end offer, which will also have a great overclocking potential, will be the Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition. This specific model will get a core clock of 3.2GHz and a Thermal Design Power (TDP) of 125W. Lastly, the chip's cache memory will be of 9MB in total, 3MB L2 cache and the remaining 6MB making up the L3 cache memory. Since AMD wants the good media coverage they have pushed forward the 1090T and pushed back the 1075T to Q3 this tear. We compiled all data in a nice and easy to understand table go check it out:

Izvor: Guru3D i techPowerUp

[MadBoY]

AMD napada ostro sa cijenama, za cijenu i5 750 ce se moc dobiti SixCore AMD. Jos ako izbace SixCore Athlona.

[BSA<AK-47>]

Znači taman se za rođendan počastim jednim X6 i novom pločom. Gledam, pa i nema baš nešto ploča sa novim chipsetom kod nas, cca. 2 modela.
Kada se očekuje navala novih ploča, nakon izlaska procesora?

[Jerry Drake]

Gledam ovaj Thuban sa 6 jezgri ispod 200$, bit će to dobra kupnja. Jedino se postavlja pitanje kome sve to treba kad se još ni četverojezgraši ne iskoriste kak spada?

A vidim da poput Nehalema stavljaju C-state turbo mode.

The great return of the turbo button

[McG]

AMD’s Phenom II X6 processors will be launched on Apr 26th/27th (depending on your location). On hand, we have some information of one of the processor, Phenom II X6 1035T. The Phenom II X6 1035T processor is based on the Thuban 45nm core. It has a core voltage of 1.2v. From the CPU-Z screen shot, we can see that it supports 6 x 64 KB of L1 Data, 6 x 64 KB of L1 Instruction, 6 x 512K L2 cache and 6MB of L3 cache. It clocks at 200MHz with multiplier of 13x, processor is clocked at 2.6GHz. It scores 11962 in Cinebench10 in multi core scores, almost 1.46x faster than a Phenom II X3 710 processor (Cinebench score is 8184) clocked at 200×13.

Izvor: OCWorkbench

[McG]

Gigabyte is looking to share some of its latest innovations in motherboard design with its AMD platform lineup, with a new enthusiast-grade motherboard in the works that rivals up with some of the company's highest-end products from its Intel platform lineup. The GA-890FXA-UD7 is the newest in the league. The model stays above the recently revealed GA-890FXA-UD5. It is a socket AM3 motherboard geared up for AMD's newest six-core processors, based on AMD 890FX + SB850 chipset. It has six PCI-Express slots (electrical: x16/x8, x4, x8, x4, x16/x8, x8), and supports 4-way ATI CrossFireX. The CPU is powered by a 10-phase VRM, with 2-phase memory VRM.

For the first time on the AMD platform, Gigabyte uses its Hybrid Silent-Pipe cooler. The cooler connects the CPU VRM, 890FX northbridge, and SB850 southbridge using a heatpipe, and the heatsink over the northbridge has provision for a water-block (included), or a large and complex aluminum heatsink that fits into the top expansion slot. The SB850 natively supports six SATA 6 Gb/s ports complete with RAID 0,1,5,10 support. An additional GSATA2 controller gives out two SATA 3 Gb/s ports and the IDE connector. Connectivity includes 8+2 channel HD audio with optical and coaxial SPDIF connectors, two gigabit Ethernet controllers, two USB 3.0 ports, a number of USB 2.0 ports, and FireWire. It is expected to be out in a month.

Izvor: bit-tech i techPowerUp

[zwer54]

čini mi se da ću opet nazad na amd... samo da izbace ovo u ducane i nebum puno trebao razmisljati...

[McG]

Prvoaprilska šala u koju je uloženo dosta truda

"Članak" je povučen sa stranice tokom dana, a ovih nekolko redova nek ostane za predobro da bi bilo istinito primjer.

AMD has given us here at the AMDZone an unprecedented first look at the upcoming Bulldozer core, answering a lot of the miss information of there on the net today about the upcoming core. AMD was gracious enough to provide us with test boxes of the upcoming system, the chips are the Bulldozer A6 Stepping. One big feature, which improves performance a lot, is the ability to clock units at different clock frequencies (provided by flexible and efficient clock generators), to power off any idle subunit and to adapt sizes of caches, TLBs and some buffers and queues according to the needs of the executed code.

A power controller keeps track of load and power consumption of each of the many subunits and adapts clocks and units as needed. Further it increases throughput and power consumption of heavily loaded units as long as the processor doesn't exceed it's power consumption and temperature limits. If core 0 has not that many memory operations (less pressure on cache), the cache might be downsized to 8kB, 2-way by switching off 2 of the 4 ways it has. This way the power, the processor is allowed to use, will be directed to where it is needed and not to drive idle units. This is called Application Power Management as you might heard in some rumors on the net.

• L0 cache: 4 kB (8-way associative) trace cache for each thread (or core)
• L1 cache: 16 kB (4-way) data cache per core 1 cycle latency and 128 kB (4-way) instruction cache per module
• L2 cache: 2 MB (8-way) per module (shared between two cores), full-speed
• L3 cache: 8 MB shared between all cores, the L3 cache with a latency of 24 cycles will be able to serve up to 2 requests per (NB) clock cycle simultaneously and transfer data with 16B/clock to each of the reciepients.
• L4 cache: AMD has also announced that all Black Editions and Opterons models will come with 32/64MB L4 cache made possible through chip stacking.But now a bit more about the details. The instruction fetch unit (IFU) fetches code from the L1 instruction cache (at 32 Bytes/cycle)

One thing that has been confirmed is that the Bulldozer core has been shown to be incredibly resilient during early manufacturing samples, so much so that AMD has told us that it is experimenting using the 28nm bulk silicon process with only small changes to the die. Although AMD has not confirmed that they will use half stepping, they didn’t deny it either. One of the first things that AMD confirmed for us was that the upcoming AM3+ will be the last of the pin grid array (PGA) and that all upcoming processor would be land grid array (LGA) more on that later. The current AM3 Phenom II only use 938 pins, the upcoming Bulldozer and Bobcat cores will use all 941 pins. One of the benifiets of the AM3+ is that all AMD chips will be able to use DDR3 1866 (PC3 -15000) for staggering 60000MB/s as well as having advanced powersavings.

Going forward AMD’s will implement AMD’s Future socket or AMD’s Fusion socket, (Socket AF1) a massive Socket 1591 pins sock that will be the first of AMD’s next generation sock supporting DisplayPort 1.2, Full PCI Express 3.0 32 lane, and the addition of two more DDR channels allowing for quad channel memory. The Bulldozer design offers two levels to dynamical adjust the power and subsequently increase the power and frequency of the remaining active cores. The processors will automatically disable the second idle core in the module and. It is activated when the operating system requests the highest performance state of the processor. The technology is completely hardware-based, and will work transparently on any operating system.

As you have seen AMD if firing on all cylinders. Not only are they dominating the field if just about every benchmark. If this is just a preview release and the final silicone is yet to be case the future does indeed look much brighter for AMD. Unfortunately we were not able to procure Intel fancy new Core i7 980X. Maybe with a site name AMDZone, they are scared that we would give a biased review, who can blame them? However with the trouncing that the Bulldozer is giving the i7 975 two extra cores / four threads won’t make much of a difference.

Izvor: AMDZone

[BSA<AK-47>]

zvijeri od procesora i definitivno vrijedni čekanja! još da cijena ostane takva,oko 300$ iliti eura...

[McG]

Još možda ispadne da je ništ-više nego iznimno detaljna prvoaprilska šala, pošto su se diljem stranih foruma svi digli na zadnje noge.
Svejedno sam postal, pa ako ispadne zayebancija, lako se kad se pojave prave stvari vratimo i pogledamo kolko su nasrali, a kolko pogodili.

[D-I-A-B-L-O]

Ahahaha
Neznam samo kako im se dalo toliko crtati i pisati, ali svaka im čast na trudu
Još da im se te fantazije pretoče u stvarnost....

[McG]

Biostar today reveals its new AMD 8xx series chipset motherboard line up, including 890FX, 890GX, 880G, and 870X chipset family. Later this month, AMD will be releasing their most important product in 2010 – the enthusiast 890FX chipset and Phenom II X6 processor. AMD 890FX chipset, codenamed RD890 accompanied by HyperTransport 3.0 and South Bridge SB850, which provides native support for SATA 6.0 Gbps.

Biostar famous T-Series TA890FXE motherboard supports existing and upcoming socket AM3 processors, including Phenom II X6. TA890FXE is powered by a 6 phase PWM, supporting 140W processors, four PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots supporting ATu CrossFireX technology, apart from two legacy PCI slots. According to AMD official announcement earlier that SB850 does not support ACC function; but Biostar “BIO-unlocKING” technology breaks through the limitation and provides the flexibility to unlock extra core(s) achieving much greater performance with lower cost. “BIO-unlocKING” technology is available on every BIOSTAR 8xx series motherboard.

Izvor: OCWorkbench

[McG]

ASRock is slated to announce it’s AMD 880G+SB850 board – ASRock 880G Extreme3 soon. This new board features the AMD 880G Northbridge and AMD SB850 southbridge. It also comes with an integrated graphcis Radeon HD 4250. The ASRock 880G Extreme3 also supports the upcoming Phenom II X6 Six-Core CPU. ASRock is also first to introduce the UCC function on the AMD 880G board (was first introduced on 890GX).

For overclocking, it supports Turbo50 technology which improves system performance by choosing the option within the BIOS. As for graphics, the board comes with an integrated AMD Radeon HD 4250 graphics, DX10.1, Shader Model 4.1, Max. shared memory 512MB graphics. It also supports ATi Quad CrossFireX, 3-Way CrossFireX, CrossFireX and Hybrid CrossFireX. As for periperhal connectivity, it has 1 x eSATAIII Connector, 6 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s, connector, 2 x USB 3.0 Ports, 2 x IEEE1394 Ports.

Izvor: OCWorkbench

[Overhaul]

ASRock radi sve ozbiljnije i kvalitetnije kartice. No vjerujem da niti on vise nece u toj klasi biti jeftilenac.

[s3t hooligan]

Cekajte ljudi, po ovim testovima su novi AMD procesori zgazili Intela po cijenama i preformansama. Jel se zna kad ce ih se otprilike mocu nabaviti kod nas i kakve ce bit cijene, da li bi se sad u 6. mjesecu kad budem uzimao konfiguraciju trebalo ici na Core i7 ili radije ovo, nekako mi je rizicno odma na procesore koji su tek dosli na trziste?

[McG]

Ne treba se zavaravati i(li) fantazirati. AMD nije zgazil Intel po pitanju performansi i teško da se bude ta situacija dogodila u nekoj bližoj budućnosti. AMD ima procesore koji po sasvim prihvatljivoj cijeni nude i više nego vredu performanse, ali ako se u određenom cijenovnom rangu nađu AMD Athlon II i Phenom II, te Intelovi Core i3 ili Core i5, onda svaki prema svojim potrebama kupi ono kaj mu najbolje odgovara. Intel ima superiornu arhitekturu i AMD zasad nema ni jedan procesor koji bi se uspješno i u potpunosti nosil s Intelovim rješenjima.

[s3t hooligan]

Tako reci covjece, onda mozda ipak Intel, jos cu vidjet testove novih AMD-ova.