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Staro 08.01.2009., 09:45   #511
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Phenom II X4 službene cijene i guru3d review

AMD Phenom™ II X4 Processor pricing (direct AMD customers in 1000-unit tray quantities):

Phenom II X4 940 'Black Edition' = $275
Phenom II X4 920 = $235



Phenom II X4 review (guru3d)
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See, when you place things in perspective, the $278 Phenom II X4 940 is here and there getting in close vicinity of that Core i7 920 processor. But let's compare to the Core 2 series for a moment. One thing we can definitely state is that Phenom II's performance is now comparable to the mid- to more high-end Core 2 Quad performance levels.
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... let me wrap thing up: with the release of the Phenom II processor AMD took a good step forward. It's not everyday that a processor is smacked down on the table and brings 25-30% more performance while remaining very affordable. Soon we'll see Socket AM3 with DDR3 support, and rough estimates lead us to believe that we'll again see 5% to 10% more performance making the Phenom II series even more competitive to it's competition. it's not an Core i7 competitor, but will likely be fighting Core i5 (or whatever Intel's mid-range chip going to be called).
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Staro 13.01.2009., 15:18   #512
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Gigabyteova nova serija AM3 ploča

Gigabyte has announced three models of AM3 motherboards supporting DDR3: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P, GA-MA790XT-UD4P and GA-MA770T-UD3P. As AMD doesn’t have plan yet to offer new chipset for motherboard which is compatible with AM3 processor, the above Gigabyte motherboards are all based on AMD 7 Series chipset. The image of GA-MA790FXT-UD5P featuring AMD 790FX+SB750 has already been unveiled. Designed for ultra durable life expectancy, Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P supports AMD Over Driver overclocking. Besides, it supports Phenom II processor with maximum TDP of 140W, and features 4 memory slots which means 16GB DDR3 can be connected. Featuring 3 PCIe X1 and 2 PCI slots, it also supports Crossfire with 2 PCIe X16 slots. Equipped with 10 SATA connectors, 6 of which offered by SB750 chip to support SATA RAID 0/1/0+1/5/JBOD, and the remaining 4 offered by Gigabyte SATA2 chip to support SATA RAID 0/1/JBOD. The availabity and pricing of this lineup are unknown yet.
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Staro 19.01.2009., 15:07   #513
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AM3 Phenomi stižu 08.02.'09. i najavljen Phenom II 950 X4

According to our usual sources of information from Europe, AM3 processors will go on sale on Feb 8. The AM3 processor which contains two memory controllers for DDR2 and DDR3 will have 938 pins and will work on existing AM2+ boards with DDR2 and future DDR3 boards. Currently, There are a few models and they are 925 915, 820,810, 720 and 710. 9 series has a L2 of 8MB while the 8 series has lesser L3 cache of 6MB and it is also quad core. The 7 series is a tri core processor. Current Phenom II 920 and 940 will not run on AM3+ DDR3 board as DDR3 support is not available on it.
AMD Phenom II X4 925 is 2.8GHz, 8MB Cache
AMD Phenom II X4 910 is 2.6GHz, 8MB Cache
AMD Phenom II X4 810 is 2.6GHz, 6MB Cache
AMD Phenom II X4 805 is 2.5GHz, 6MB Cache
AMD Phenom II X3 720 is 2.8GHz, 7.5MB Cache
AMD Phenom II X3 710 is 2.6GHz, 7.5MB Cache
All the above processors are 938 pins and are rated at 95W and support DDR3-1333 or DDR2-1066 which will run on both current DDR2 and future DDR3 boards.
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Interestingly AMD is planning to launch a new model together with the already known Phenom II X4 945. The latter is a direct reply to today's flagship, with the same clock frequencies and new DDR3 support. But at the same time it will announce a new top model in the form of Phenom II X4 950 operating at 3.1GHz, 100MHz higher than the 945-model, which may not be all that overwhelming. If AMD will stick to these plans remains to be seen, but we would not complain if AMD managed to raise the bar even further and perhaps even hit 3.2GHz.
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Staro 21.01.2009., 21:46   #514
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meni se jako cini da je jedan od ovih moj sljedeci proc ,i fino ide na moju maticnu uz jednostavan flahs biosa,osim ako nisam nesto zesce skurio

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Staro 22.01.2009., 16:29   #515
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MSI 790FX i 790GX AM3 ploče

MSI today unveils its AMD AM3 motherboard 790FX-GD70 and 790GX-G65. MSI AM3 motherboard fully supports AMD latest 45nm Phenom II processor and DDR3 memory. Gaming series motherboard even comes with OC Dial and MAX FSB advanced overclocking technologies, as well as M-Flash BIOS update mechanism protection. OC Dial and MAX FSB overclocking enable users to overclock easily and become an expert in a short period of time; M-Flash enables user to load the BIOS files from USB drive to boot up. For better display performance, 790GX-G65 is equipped with 1Gbit DDR3 1333MHz SidePort memory. Users can buy another independent MSI R3400 series graphics card; they simply need to open the Hybrid CrossFireX synergy function to enjoy improved display performance.


MSI 790FX-GD70

  • AMD 790FX/SB750 Chipset
  • Supports AMD Socket AM3 (941-pin) Phenom™ II / Athlon™ processor
  • 4 x PCI-E x16 slots support ATI CrossFireX™ Technology
  • Supports four dual-channel DDR3 1333 memory slots up to 16GB
  • Utilizes DrMOS chipset
  • APS(Active Phase Switching)
  • Dual 10/100/1000 Mb/s LAN Ports
  • High-quality 7.1-channel audio
  • 8 SATAII and 1 eSATA hard disk interface, support RAID 0/1/0+1/5
  • 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI slots
  • 12 x USB 2.0, 1 x IEEE1394a



MSI 790GX-G65

  • AMD 790GX/SB750 Chipset
  • Supports AMD Socket AM3 (941-pin) Phenom™ II / Athlon™ processor
  • 2 x PCI-E x16 slots support ATI CrossFireX™ / Hybrid CrossFireX™ Technology
  • Supports four dual-channel DDR3 1333 memory slots up to 16GB
  • APS(Active Phase Switching)
  • 10/100/1000 Mb/s LAN Port
  • High-quality 7.1-channel audio
  • 5 SATAII and 1 eSATA hard disk interface, support RAID 0/1/0+1/5
  • 2 PCI-E x1, 2 PCI slots
  • 12 x USB 2.0, 1 x IEEE1394a (optional)
  • Built-in 1Gbit IGP display dedicated memory
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Staro 27.01.2009., 02:50   #516
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Jetway MA3-79GDG Combo mATX AM2+ ploča s podrškom za DDR2 i DDR3 module

MA3-79GDG COMBO supports a hybrid design, supporting both DDR2 or DDR3 for upcoming AM3 processors.
It also comes with 2 PCIex16 gen 2 slots for CrossFire X and Hybrid CrossFire with embedded 790GX north bridge.
It also uses a heatpipe heatsink and has eSATA, RAID, and DDR3 SidePort.
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Staro 31.01.2009., 13:30   #517
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Znao sam da mi je nesto bilo sumnjivo kada su startali s 2.8GHz i oznakom X4 920
http://www.techpowerup.com/83608/AMD...ew_Models.html

Dalek je put do 990 (995)!

BTW, one price od prije koji mjesec o FX modelu koji radi na 4.0GHz na defoultu sada i nisu tako nerealne. S obzirom na potraznju za procevima od 1000$ i jedan takav po waferu ako se izvadi bio bi dovoljan!
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Staro 05.02.2009., 12:37   #518
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MSI 790FX-GD70 + AM3 X3 ES + DDR3

Test nije bas velik ali za pocetak je sasvim OK.
BTW, izgleda da ce Propos jezgra bez L3 cachea biti pun pogodak! 3.6GHz na defoult voltazi!

3DMark 06 CPU score
X3 8750 : 2945
Ath X3 2.8 : 3383
Ath X3 3.6 : 4219
C2D E8500 (3.16) : 2978

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Staro 09.02.2009., 09:08   #519
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AMD Phenom II X4 810 and X3 720BE review (AM3) by Guru3d



ASUS M4A79 Deluxe by Guru3d



linkovi na sluzbene stranice dva nova modela mbo:
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Staro 09.02.2009., 09:22   #520
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Ovaj X3 720BE je pravi mali zvrk od procesora .
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Staro 09.02.2009., 10:08   #521
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Dobar je taj X3

Malo me čudi loš overclock rezultat s X4 810. Zaključani X4 920 ganjaju bez problema na puno više frekve (redovito preko 3.4 GHz uz dobru matičnu što ova Asusica koju su koristili je).

Ne kužim gdje je ovdje zapelo, trebalo bi biti slično?

Treba vidjeti što donose Propusi:
  • Athlon X4 615 - > 2.7 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, Propus, Socket AM3, April 2009;
  • Athlon X4 605 - > 2.5 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, Propus, Socket AM3, April 2009
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Na Anandtechu su dobili 3.7 GHz s X4 810
Anandtech Phenom II X4 810 & X3 720 review
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Staro 09.02.2009., 12:53   #522
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Dobro izgleda M4A79 Deluxe iako reviewi za sada nisu na nivou, zadnjih 10ak dana ju želim kupit i nema teorije da dođe tako skoro u HR, bar tako kažu u M Sanu a vani ju normalno kupuju, pa sam se ipak odlučio na DFI LP DK 790FXB-M2RSH i naručio ju...


720 se čini ok proc, mogao bi se fino prodavati iako se slažem s dijelom teksta gdje kažu da im je čudno imat 3 jezgre, i meni je draže 4, a jako me čudi kako ne mogu clockati preko 3 ghz x4 810
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Zbilja čudno, ali kaže da je puno teže klokati proc bez otključanog množitelja zbog toga jer treba uskladiti sve one faktore itd... uglavnom, ne znam jel se to meni samo čini ili je lik dignuo FSB na 230 i tu naišao na zid jer nije smanjio NB, HT množitelje i te RAM djelitelje...

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We start off with the AMD Phenom II X4 810. This is a the regular version, not a BE (Black edition). Immediately we get restricted as the clock multiplier and voltages are now locked. The minute you will startup AMD Overdrive, you'll stumble into these limitation
A ni ovaj dio koji tvrdi da su voltaže zaključane mi nije jasan... Ako i jesu u OverDriveu, u BIOS-u sigurno nisu...
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To i mene čudi jer sam ja na Asrocku prešao 250 a da nisam ništa smanjio, kad sam išao smanjivat sam prešao 280...

a ljudi su definitivno postali gotovani, više im se ni u bios ne da ulazit, sve bi gospoda iz windowsa u dva tri klika htjela...

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Biostar TA790GX A3+ AM3 ploča

Biostar today announced the TA790GX A3+, the first AMD “Dragon Platform” qualified motherboard with next generation AMD AM3 Phenom II processors support. The Phenom AM3 processors are able to support up to DDR3 1600MHz memory speed equipped with AMD 790FX North Bridge, the TA790GX A3+ offers Dual x16 PCI-E 2.0 graphics interfaces to deliver up the latest ATI CrossFireX support for the ultimate gaming platform. The TA790GX A3+ brings the AM3 CPU performance into full play - providing users with the perfect choice for the AM3 processors usage.
  • Supported Socket AM3 processors AMD Phenom II X4 processor / AMD Phenom II X3 processor
  • AMD 140W processor support
  • AMD 790GX Chipset with ATi Radeon HD 3300 Graphics
  • Dual-Channel DDR3-1333/1066/800
  • On Board 128MB DDR2 Side-Port memory
  • ATi Hybrid Graphics Support
  • Superior scaling with ATi CrossFireX technology
  • Integrated HDMI/DVI interface with HDCP Support 1080P HD Video Experience
  • AMD OverDrive Utility Support
  • Biostar G.P.U (Green Power Utility ) Technology
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Zbilja čudno, ali kaže da je puno teže klokati proc bez otključanog množitelja zbog toga jer treba uskladiti sve one faktore itd... uglavnom, ne znam jel se to meni samo čini ili je lik dignuo FSB na 230 i tu naišao na zid jer nije smanjio NB, HT množitelje i te RAM djelitelje...

A ni ovaj dio koji tvrdi da su voltaže zaključane mi nije jasan... Ako i jesu u OverDriveu, u BIOS-u sigurno nisu...
Vjerojatno je u tome stvar.

Vidi gore, dao sam link na Anandtech, oni su ga pošteno kloknuli, ide skoro kao i BE
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AMD puts on the ritz with six-core Opteron demo

Izgleda da ce ovi Opteroni biti glavni konkurenti novim Xeonima baziranim na Nehalem arhitekturi u 2P i 4P segmentu. Drop-In su kompatibilni s postojecim socket F plocama tako da oko upgradea postojecih sustava nema problema.
Na kraju ostaje da vidimo sto ce prevagnuti - 6 stvarnih jezgri ili 4 stvarne i 4 SMT.
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/16448

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The 16-core Shanghai system produced throughput numbers in the range of 25,000 MB/s. The 24-core Istanbul box, by contrast, hit about 42,000 MB/s.
Vidi se lijep napredak u odnosu na 4 core Opterone!
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Phenom II 955 X4, te 550 i 545 X2 AM3 procesori

The first of the three new chips will be the Phenom II X4 955 processor with a clock frequency of 3.2GHz. Certainly, 3.2GHz is nothing to scoff at -- with the release of this new Phenom II X4, the Intel/AMD quad core price-war is going to be elevated yet another little step. The socket AM3 Phenom II X4 955 will have 8MB cache, and will support DDR3-1333. The next parts are dual-core Phenom IIs. AMD is prepping 3.0GHz Phenom II X2 545 and 3.1GHz Phenom II X2 550 processors for launch in mid-May. Both chips will be based on Callisto, which is supposedly the quad-core Deneb die with two cores disabled. So while they are 'only' dual cores, they will benefit from having a good 6MB shared L3 cache, and 512KB of L2 cache for each core. You can expect that these two new dual-core Phenom IIs will be very reasonably priced, as Intel has a slew of high-performing, budget dual-core Core 2 Duo parts on the market. Maybe, with a great deal of luck, some of the cores on these dual-core X2 parts might be able to be unlocked with the right motherboard, like some of the recent X3 chips.
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Ak se budu stvarno ta X2 čuda dala uspješno otključati u X4, onda je stvarno vrijeme za upgrade
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ASRock ploča s 780G + SB710 čipsetom i ECS 880G ploča

ASRock A780GMH/128M
If you are looking for a matx board that can support unlocking of 4 cores from Phenom II X3 710 or 720, this board is something to look for as it has the best cost/performance ratio.
This board uses the cheaper AMD 780G + SB710 south bridge which do away RAID 5. Similar to the SB750, it also supports ACC feature, thus chances of enabling the hidden 4th core is possible.
  • Support for Socket AM2+ / AM2 processors: AMD Phenom™ FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core / Athlon X2 Dual-Core / Athlon 64 / Sempron processor
  • Solid Capacitor for CPU power
  • Support for Socket AM3 processors: AMD Phenom™ II X4 / X3 and Athlon II X4 / X3 / X2 processors
  • Supports AMD OverDrive™ with ACC feature (Advanced Clock Calibration)
  • Supports Hyper-Transport 3.0 (HT 3.0) Technology
  • AMD 780G + SB710 Chipsets
  • FSB 2600 MHz (5.2 GT/s)
  • Supports Dual Channel DDR2 1066 with AM2+ CPU , and DDR2 800/667/533 with AM2 CPU, with 4 DIMM slots, maximum capacity up to 16GB
  • Integrated AMD Radeon HD 3200 graphics, DX10 class iGPU, Pixel Shader 4.0, Max. shared memory 512MB
  • Integrated 128MB side port memory for iGPU
  • Supports ATI™ Hybrid CrossFireX
  • 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (green @ x16 mode)
  • 6 x SATAII 3.0 Gb/s connectors, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 10 and JBOD), NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug functions
  • PCIE Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s
  • Three VGA Output options: D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI



ECS A880GM-M
ECS showcased the near final version of the upcoming Black series motherboard based on the new AMD 880G chipset, from which we still know very little. The board comes with a pair of beefy chipset and MOSFET coolers, being an AM3 board supporting DDR3-1333 memory instead of DDR2/AM2/AM2+. Release date is not know yet, since it will only be release by the time AMD delivers the 880G to the masses.

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DFI LanParty JR 790GX-M3H5

This neat little board is based on mATX form factor sporting a 4-layer black PCB. It uses 790GX chipset supporting 45nm AM3 Phenom II processors and DDR3 800/1066/1333 DIMMs. It has 4 DIMM slots up to 8GB of memories and has an additional 128MB DDR3 SidePort memory support. There are 2 x16 PCIe 2.0 slots (x8 bandwidth) for supporting Crossfire and Hybrid Crossfire. There is a PCie x1 and PCI slot as well. The board supports 6 SATA 3Gbps ports, 12 USB 2.0 ports, Realtek ALC885 for 8CH HD audio, Marvell 8056 1GbE LAN. The power department consists of 4-phase Vcore and 1 phase NB digital PWM. The BIOS allows the usual tweaking and tuning on Vdimm, Vnb, Vcore, Vsb, VHT, FSB, Multiplier etc.
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Da se nadovežem na tvoju ploču, šteta ju je ne spomenuti...

DFI finally added an AM3 motherboard based on the AMD 790FX chipset to its lineup. The LANParty Dark 790FXB-M3H5 makes it to the tier of motherboards that are based on the AMD 790FX + SB750 chipset, and support DDR3 memory. Looks and feature-wise, this board is near-identical to the LP DK 790FXB-M2RSH, except for the fact that it features the AM3 socket, supports the latest AMD AM3 CPUs out of the box, and supports DDR3 memory. DFI advertises this board to be "the best OC platform".

The board features a 4+1 phase CPU power circuit. It features two full-length electrically 16-lane PCI-Express 2.0 slots to support ATI CrossFireX. The third full-length slot is electrically x4. The board supports DDR3 800/1066/1333 MHz memory, and DDR3-1600 by overclocking. DFI uses the Marvell 8056 gigabit Ethernet controller, which is advertised to be 15% faster than competing models. Audio is care of Realtek ALC885 HD audio. LANParty ABS II on the fly overclocking feature, backed by DFI's iconic Genie BIOS, make for the rest of the feature-set.
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Triple i Quad-Core Athlon II serija, te detalji oko dvojezgrenih Phenom II modela

Advanced Micro Devices has decided to delay affordable quad-core and triple-core microprocessors made using 45nm process technology that it plans to sell under Athlon II brand and the chips will not be available before August-September. Still, the new breed of dual-core Athlon II X2 microprocessors is due in June timeframe during Computex trade-show. Earlier AMD planned to release its code-named Propus and Rana microprocessors in April, whereas the dual-core Regor was scheduled for June launch. However, the latest plans of Advanced Micro Devices seen by X-bit labs indicate that the world’s second largest maker of x86 microprocessors will only release Propus and Rana in August-September timeframe, more or less inline with the company’s new mainstream desktop platform code-named Pisces.

AMD Athlon II X4 600-series (Propus) is a quad-core processor with dual-channel DDR2/DDR3 memory controller (depending on platform) and 2MB L2 cache (512KB per core), Athlon II X3 400-series (Rana) is a triple-core central processing unit with DDR2/DDR3 memory controller (depending on platform) and with 1.5MB L2 cache, whereas AMD Athlon II X2 200-series (Regor) is a dual-core processor with 1MB L2 cache per core and DDR2/DDR3 support, depending on the platform. It is interesting to note that besides dual-core Regor processor, AMD will also release dual-core Callisto chip in June. Apparently, Callisto will be the long-awaited dual-core AMD Phenom II X2 chip with shared L3 cache and also made using 45nm process technology.
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Detalji oko nadolazeće AMD K11 (Bulldozer, Fusion i Bobcat) arhitekture

It is never boring in the world of CPUs. Regardless of who's on top, plans for next generations tend to excite everybody in the eco-system… if you deliver, that is. The Ex-Alpha engineering teams lead by Dirk Meyer that created K7 and K8 architecture messed everything up with Barcelona/Agena and the infamous TLB-bug (Translation-Lookaside Buffer). Shanghai/Deneb cleaned a lot of things up and AMD is back being competitive again, but Intel is pushing hard: Intel is operating in tick-tock architectural mode, and so far - AMD isn't able to answer back. K10 and K10.5 were nothing else but improvements over the K8 architecture.


AMD's Kryptonite versus Intel's Tick-Tock or are things really as they seem?
Looking at public and leaked roadmaps, it looks like AMD's K11, or Bulldozer core is shaping up to be what Core architecture was for Intel. AMD went to the drawing board back in 2005, and started to work on "K11" architecture. Up to today, AMD only delivered three "ticks" and seven "tocks" architectures, with the latest one breaking the tradition: K5 was launched in 1996, K7 followed up three years later. K8 was an evolution planned to debut in late 2001, but numerous (manufacturing-related) delays postponed the part until April 2003. If the current schedule sticks to K8 and K11, we'll have to wait for eight years between the two. At the same time, even though Intel likes to ponder the "Tick-Tock" architecture, the reality is such that even the Nehalem architecture is remotely based on the Pentium Pro core, and if we look through the "P6" architecture, we see that Intel has delivered five genuinely new architectures as ticks, and a gazillion tocks.


M-SPACE or how Fusion came to be…
Bulldozer architecture is actually a consequence of the failed tie-up between AMD and nVidia. Back in 2005, AMD felt that it had Intel by that certain part of male body (direct quote from an unnamed exec) and wanted to merge with nVidia. That fell through because Jen-Hsun Huang wanted the CEO position, and the rest is history; AMD already borrowed money to buy nVidia and had no choice but to seal the deal with ATi Technologies. The key reason for the birth of the Bulldozer architecture is M-SPACE design (Modular-Scalable Portable Accessible Compatible Efficient), GPU-resembling a "LEGO block" architectural concept that became a mantra in AMD's halls. Under the M-SPACE design guidelines, Bulldozer (10-100W TDP) and Bobcat (1-10W) cores were supposed to address different market segments, but the way of creating a processor was exactly the same. The goal was to have Bobcat addressing the OLPC/netbook/MID market, then considered as a crazy vision by Nicholas Negroponte - can anyone today say "Nicholas was crazy"? Bulldozer was the "big daddy" core, going head to head against then Pentiums and Xeons. Unfortunately for AMD, Intel got there first (Core 2, Atom).

In order to understand M-SPACE, we need to take a look into graphics chips; a GPU manufacturer will release a high-end part and then decrease the number of logic units depending on targeted die-size (cost). AMD saw M-SPACE as the way to leverage its biggest disadvantage: lack of available die space. A lot of things have changed since then, AMD spun off its foundry operations to GlobalFoundries and with ATI's upcoming 32nm GPUs coming from ex-Fab38 (Fab 1, Module 2) GlobalFoundries facility in Dresden. One of the key components for M-SPACE are the future CPU Sockets - Servers will get G34 as a part of the Maranello platform (LGA) - but consumer platforms won't stay on Socket AM3 either. AMD has plans to introduce G Sockets across the board, since they will be a necessity for a new memory controller, Display connectors, PCI Express 3.0 etc. Socket AM3 and its 940 pins just won't cut the mustard, but 2000+ lines on Landing Grid Array might do. This also means that pins are waving goodbye from mainstream consumer platforms - AMD will introduce LGA on desktops and start to push BGA (Ball Grid Array) on notebook platforms.


CPU becomes APU
The Bulldozer core will be implemented across the range: Server, Desktop, Notebook, launching as server first, followed by desktop and notebook. Server-wise, AMD plans to introduce three parts: single die quad-core & octal-core for the launch, with dual-die hex-core (16 Cores) to follow later. Quad-core and Octal-core are succeeding Sao Paolo (Istanbul on Socket G34), while Magny-Cours (12-core dual-die on Socket G34) will be succeeded by Montreal, a 16-core dual-die part. We heard about the "Montreal" codename back in 2006, so it might have changed by now. All of these parts sit on the Maranello platform, which will be introduced early next year.

When it comes to the world of desktops, Bulldozer arrives as two parts: Orochi and Llano. Orochi is the first M-SPACE design to feature both as Opteron and Phenom, featuring four Bulldozer cores and 8MB of cache. Llano is the new key processor for AMD's commercial desktop and notebook efforts. Dubbed Accelerated Processing Unit (APU), this combination of quad-core processor and ATi's DX11 core (both manufactured in 32nm - CPU die is SOI, GPU die is bulk). When looking at Ontario's specs, it is clear that this Falcon's dead-ringer (Kuma+ATI core) is all that Falcon was supposed to be: dual-core CPU packed with DirectX 11 based core using BGA packaging, targeting ultra-portable and netbook markets.

If we look at thr specs, it is beyond any doubt that this architecture is another "hammer", but is a hammer for Intel's line-up of today. Intel will launch 32nm Westmere in 2010, and have roughly 11 month advantage over AMD in terms of manufacturing process. To make the matters worse, Sandy Bridge is Intel's new architecture en route 2011, and there is a big question looming above heads at AMD: what will the state of the market be once that Bulldozer finally launches? 2011 is not too late for a Fusion "APU", though. Even though Intel will launch its 32nm Arandale processor in Q1'10, performance and compatibility of integrated graphics is a far cry from usability standpoint. Intel's integrated graphics currently does little more than output picture on the display, and DX11-compliant, OpenCL-compliant, decent low-res gaming performer will cause serious headaches for Intel. Once Intel integrates those features into Larrabee and Sandy Bridge, then we will be able to speak about problems for AMD. For us, it looks like AMD is on a path of innovation. But when AMD will stop being "late to the party"?

Izvor: Bright Side of News

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Jetway XBLUE-77A3 i XBLUE-78GA3 AM2(+)/AM3 combo ploče

Jetway has launched two new models for AMD's Phenom platform and it has stuck to two things, full backward compatibility and the color blue. Jetway XBLUE-77A3 and Jetway XBLUE-78GA3 both use blue colors throughout the design, which do make the board stand out. Another thing making Jetway's two AMD motherboards unique is that they support both Socket AM2/AM2+ and AM3 with both DDR2 and DDR3 memory slots.
Jetway has launched combo boards in the past and with a focus on the entry market these pose as potential upgrade alternatives for those who are looking to try out AMD's new platform without having to upgrade the entire system. The difference between the two XBlue motherboards is that XBLUE-78GA3 use the AMD 770 chipset and does not have an integrated graphics circuit, while XBLUE-77A3 and the AMD 780G chipset does. Both motherboards use the AMD SB700 southbridge and supports DDR2-1066 and DDR3-1333 memory, two memory slots each. Price and availability are yet to be announced.
Izvor: NordicHardware

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CPU becomes APU
The Bulldozer core will be implemented across the range: Server, Desktop, Notebook, launching as server first, followed by desktop and notebook. Server-wise, AMD plans to introduce three parts: single die quad-core & octal-core for the launch, with dual-die hex-core (16 Cores) to follow later. Quad-core and Octal-core are succeeding Sao Paolo (Istanbul on Socket G34), while Magny-Cours (12-core dual-die on Socket G34) will be succeeded by Montreal, a 16-core dual-die part. We heard about the "Montreal" codename back in 2006, so it might have changed by now. All of these parts sit on the Maranello platform, which will be introduced early next year.

When it comes to the world of desktops, Bulldozer arrives as two parts: Orochi and Llano. Orochi is the first M-SPACE design to feature both as Opteron and Phenom, featuring four Bulldozer cores and 8MB of cache. Llano is the new key processor for AMD's commercial desktop and notebook efforts. Dubbed Accelerated Processing Unit (APU), this combination of quad-core processor and ATi's DX11 core (both manufactured in 32nm - CPU die is SOI, GPU die is bulk). When looking at Ontario's specs, it is clear that this Falcon's dead-ringer (Kuma+ATI core) is all that Falcon was supposed to be: dual-core CPU packed with DirectX 11 based core using BGA packaging, targeting ultra-portable and netbook markets.
If we look at thr specs, it is beyond any doubt that this architecture is another "hammer", but is a hammer for Intel's line-up of today. Intel will launch 32nm Westmere in 2010, and have roughly 11 month advantage over AMD in terms of manufacturing process. To make the matters worse, Sandy Bridge is Intel's new architecture en route 2011, and there is a big question looming above heads at AMD: what will the state of the market be once that Bulldozer finally launches? 2011 is not too late for a Fusion "APU", though. Even though Intel will launch its 32nm Arandale processor in Q1'10, performance and compatibility of integrated graphics is a far cry from usability standpoint. Intel's integrated graphics currently does little more than output picture on the display, and DX11-compliant, OpenCL-compliant, decent low-res gaming performer will cause serious headaches for Intel. Once Intel integrates those features into Larrabee and Sandy Bridge, then we will be able to speak about problems for AMD. For us, it looks like AMD is on a path of innovation. But when AMD will stop being "late to the party"?

Izvor: Bright Side of News

Je da je Theo Valich autor teksta, ali ako ništ drugo navel je sve na jednom mjestu.
Kaj bu s nvidiom po apu pitanju ?
Oni misle sve sami ili ?

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Ko bi ih znal. Oni bi svoj procesor (isto kak bi Intel na drugoj fronti svoju grafičku), a i ovo malo čipseta kaj izdaju za AMD, je tek-tolko da nekaj izdaju.
Prvo nek naprave taj procesor kojeg najavljuju, a onda se nek pozabave CPU + GPU kombinacijom.
Samo je pitanje di bude već AMD na tom područuju kad (i ako) se nVidia odluči na slično rješenje.
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AMD demonstrirao prvi 12-core Opteron procesor (Magny-Cours).

Riječ je o prvom "twin native 6-core" procesoru za novi G34 socket, a u planu su i "twin native 4-core" procesori. U biti se radi o MCM pakiranju, nečemu što Intel koristi već duže vrijeme (Pentium D, Core2 Quad, Dual core Atom). Procesori bi trebali biti predstavljeni u Q1 2010.

Prvi native 6-core Opteron (Istambul jezgra) bi trebao biti predstavljen u lipnju.
Više o novom G34 socketu:

Shema G34 socketa:

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