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Staro 17.01.2025., 16:44   #211
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"Lazne" frameove se zapravo puno lakse i bolje radi kad nisi ogranicen problemima real-time-a a to je input lag.
Svaki drugi frame "lazan" skracuje vrijeme renderinga upola. Za neke preview rendere bi se dalo i dosta vise.

Nego zasto su se svi uzkokodakali zbog tehnologija koje su opcionalne i koristit ce ih onaj tko zeli?
Kad to zanemaris imamo 20-30% vise performanse za istu cijenu sta je super znajuci da nvidija nema konkurenciju i da je u usporedbi sa CPU svijetom to jako dobar uplift...

Zato jer ih nV promovira na veliko i sav marketing polažu u FG.

I da, game devovi se sve više oslanjaju na tu tehnologiju.
Lakše im je ne optimizirati igre.
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Staro 17.01.2025., 17:07   #212
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Zato jer ih nV promovira na veliko i sav marketing polažu u FG.

I da, game devovi se sve više oslanjaju na tu tehnologiju.
Lakše im je ne optimizirati igre.
A nego sta bi trebali ne promovirat nove feature?

Ako stoji ovo drugo sta kazes, zar je lijenost devova nvidijin problem pa bi trebali prestat ubacivat nove feature da ovi ne bi bili lijeni?

O korisnosti FG-a se ne moze generalno sudit jer dok u odredjenim zanrovima nema puno smisla (bilo kakve brze competitive igre), u drugima dodje ko naruceno - razne strategije, flight simulatori, city builderi, avanture itd. gdje brzina inputa nije presudna.
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Staro 17.01.2025., 18:06   #213
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20% je mizeran skok za dvije u pol godine povijesno gledajući, a stvari ne izgledaju kao da će MSRP biti cijena u dućanu.

Ulaganje u softverske gluposti umjesto hardverskih pomaka je razočaravajuće zato što em nisu univerzalno rješenje, prvenstveno frame gen, em rade samo na novom hardveru koji je beznačajno jači od starog, ali su mu funkcije umjetno zaključane da te natjeraju da nadogradiš.

Svaku, i najmanju priliku koju je Nvidia imala da joj prođe neka odluka za svoj profit je iskoristila, i zato je potrošen goodwill.

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Staro 17.01.2025., 20:11   #214
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Ove upscaling i fake frame gluposti, zajedno sa cijenama grafičkih koje mi ne pada na pamet plaćati (čak ni za to koliko mid-range kartice koštaju) i sprdanjem kupaca na način da su xx70 kartice sada zapravo xx60, a xx60 šrot zadnji, u kombinaciji sa AAA igrama gdje se godišnje pojavi mooožda jedna igra koja me koliko-toliko zanima, su me totalno ohladile od igranja. Ionako jedino što i zavrtim zadnjih par godina praktički su prastare igre ili indie igre. Jedino što već neko vrijeme imam na radaru od novih AAA igara su From soft igre i BG3. Gaming danas je totalni trash. Velika lova upropastila cijelu priču. Već odavno je tako, ali zadnjih par godina je došlo do nepodnošljivosti.
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Staro 17.01.2025., 20:37   #215
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ato što em nisu univerzalno rješenje, prvenstveno frame gen, em rade samo na novom hardveru koji je beznačajno jači od starog, ali su mu funkcije umjetno zaključane da te natjeraju da nadogradiš.
Ovo je, mensečini, sažetak problematike.

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Staro 17.01.2025., 20:45   #216
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Nemam niš protiv dlssa tj "pumpanju" frejmova, al nvidia i gejming će imat sve manje veze i veze jedno s drugim; taj AI će se gurat i to će se marketinški agresivno promovirat, naravno, cijena će obavezno pratit "napredak" jel, ipak je AI u pitanju..

Ak možeš dobit 40tak fps-a više a da ne pati kvaliteta grafike-slike, zakaj ne, većinu zanimaju sirove performanse grafe. Igre su sve više neoptimizirane, tak da ni hajend grafe ne spašavaju stvar ako pričamo o igranju na ultra postavkama 2k-4k al bez ovih "dodanih" fps-a.. Sad se sve bazira na softveru, pojačaju hardver da mogu vrtit AI gluposti.

Nego, kaj ne postoje grafe za posao i za gejming. Uskoro ćemo si postavljat pitanja, koja je svrha grafičkih kartica a da ne služe obavljanju posla koji donosi novce. Alternativa postoji i daleko je jeftinija i služi isključivo za gejming, al opet ekipa želi imat (da su mirni neki određeni vremenski period) grafu za pc koja će moć odigrat igre kak spada pa i nafrljit postavke do daske, e to je ono kaj fali tj moglo bi falit uskoro, iz fokusa će se izgubit koje je zapravo značenje grafičke kartice.

Prerano je još reći da je nvidia odlepila Al postoje već neke naznake koje bi mogle vodit u tom smjeru. Naravno, nevidia je još samo jedna u nizu firmi, mogao bih povući paralelu sa proizvođačima smartfona, slična priča se i tam kotrlja al to traje već neko vrijeme.
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Staro 17.01.2025., 20:47   #217
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Kako je prerano reć' da su odlijepili, pa jesi li vidio kakvu je jaknu frajer nosio?
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Staro 17.01.2025., 20:58   #218
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I meni je to isto smješno.

+su mi smješni ti ćoravi kod kojih je "bolje od native".
Naporno mi je slušat to.
Nemaš para, il imaš pa ne želiš dat, sve 5, al nemoj trabunjat da je bolje od native.
Nije stvar u lovi nego što misliš pod "nativno". DLSS2 je AA metoda, to ljudi zaboravljaju. Uvijek ćeš imat nekakav AA preko "nativne" slike a situacija je jednostavno takva da je često AA implementacija gora od DLSS-a. To ne znači da je DLSS uvijek bolji od "nativnog", reć to bi bila glupost, ali sigurno postoji masa igara gdje je bolje uključit quality dlss nego probat igrat na 4k sa nekom jadnom implementacijom zamuljanog TAA.

DLDSR+DLAA > DLDSR+DLSS > DLAA > DLSS > TAA > MSAA > FXAA

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Nažalost, nadolazeće generacije budu se još više oslanjale na AI, a sudeći po ovome kaj trenutno kola po netu, izgleda da budu sljedeći tjedan dodatno potvrđeni svi naši komentari da novi hardver sada uveliko ovisi o softverskim rješenjima.
Moguće da je ovo zadnji gayming hardver od nvidie, u budućnosti ćemo kupovat nvidia frame gen softver koji će iz verzije u verziju nudit sve više i više ekstrapoliranih frejmova. Uvjet će bit da po "brute force" metodi igra može radit u bar 2 frejma a ovo sve između se bude ekstrapoliralo.

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Kako je Exiled rekao, treba vidjeti koliko će ovo čudovište biti bolje za lewisa jer ako sam dobro skužio kod njega nema lažnih ''frejmova'', samo njemu već sam VRAM igra veliku ulogu.
Je, mislim da mi koji u ovoj temi trkeljamo prvenstveno mislimo na gayming, to koliko će to bit bolje za ozbiljnije primjene nije moja briga
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Staro 17.01.2025., 21:12   #219
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Cijene i dostupnost (1 - 2) stvaraju dojam kao da nVidia svom snagom ne želi prodati najbolje gaming kartice u povijesti čovječanstva.
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Staro 17.01.2025., 21:28   #220
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Oče ih stevica iza#rat vec vidim,nego suma sumarum da se ode vecina slaže oko bar dila za gejmung..znači ako damo svoj ne lako zarađen novac tipa 1000 do 2k evra valjda ocekujem igrat nesto na high nativ 2k 4k bez vecih problema sa finim fps/om 60 plus ajde može dlss ali brate onaj lag fest zvan FSR i taj rejtrejcing ne triba nikome.


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Da, izgleda da bude većina kartica prvenstveno za američko tržište, tak da se lakše može pričati kak je RTX 5090 kroz DLSS 4 + MFG super izbor za samo 2.000$. I to kaj veliš, Heavy Metal Steve i australski mu imenjak, bi vrlo lako mogli napraviti zasebne dokumentarce o tome kak su im prošle receznije i kaj točno se tu sad provjerava, jer hardver je postal zadnja rupa na svirali.
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Kako je prerano reć' da su odlijepili, pa jesi li vidio kakvu je jaknu frajer nosio?
Nisam, osim ak nije opet kožnu nosil Svi znamo da uvijek može bit gore nego kaj je
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Speaking ahead of Computex, an annual technology exposition held in Taiwan, Huang said, "The more you buy, the more you save... That's called CEO math.
... dok je ove uključil i ray-tracing za jaknu.
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FPS usporedbe, sa 75% fake frameova, su skroz jadne.
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To je taj tzv. tehnički marketing, dok nVidia za 2.500€ prodaje PCI-E 5.0 set-top-box.
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Cijene i dostupnost (1 - 2) stvaraju dojam kao da nVidia svom snagom ne želi prodati najbolje gaming kartice u povijesti čovječanstva.
Tomek veli da 5080 čak nešto sitno i ima, ali da 5090 nema skoro pa niš.
Isto tako je pokazao neke zamuljane AMD interne benchove i ako ima istine u tome, 9070/XT će biti opaka konkurencija zelenima....ali nije prvi put da on priča bajke o performansama....a opet, ovo su navodno AMD interni slajdovi. Zapravo najbitnija stvar će biti cijena i dostupnost. A vidimo da se već Radeoni pojavljuju posvuda, slike po redditu i slično o grafama iz dućana/skladišta. Moguće i AMD gerila marketing u napadu na RTX jaknu.



Zapravo ne kužim što AMD izvodi, po njima grafe idu u prodaju tek u ožujku šta ne? I sada svaki dan izlete slike grafa u dućanima...dakle sve je spremno, ali su se na CESu skenjali.
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Mislim da je kod AMD-a u pitanju ono kaj smo već komentirali, sve su imali spremno, kartice su već poslane u dućane, jedino su opet htjeli neku šašavu cijenu složiti.
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Mislim da AMD ne može konkurirati jakni. Nemaju šanse.
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nVidia je otišla predaleko i imaju presposobnu mašineriju, ali lako moguće da ove nove RDNA 4 kartice ispadnu sasvim solidne, posebice u usporedbi s RTX 5070 i Ti modelima.

Za razliku od Intela, nVidia ne bude napravila takvu grešku da cijelo desetljeće stoje na mjestu ili da na bilo koji način pruže AMD-u i najmanju šansu za preotimanje tržišta.
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Mene zanima što budu radili s idućim naraštajem kartica ako sada prodaju tu priču o framerateu od 250. Ajde pa ima i monitora koji to mogu prikazati (koliko god bilo fake), ali koji je idući cilj? 500? Hoćeš morati imati dva monitora pa da svaki prikazuje frameove naizmjenično?
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Jebiga, oni sad primarno prodaju AI hardver koji po komadu naplaćuju u desecima tisuća popularne valute, tak da su ove tzv. gaming kartice u ponudi samo reda-radi. Najrađe bi ljudima samo poslali sliku najdražeg im RTX modela s unaprijed dogovorenim obročnim plaćanjem po uzoru na pretplatničke streaming modele. Lako moguće da se desi ono kaj je Exy spomenul, tj. da je ovo zadnja generacija nVidia gaming kartica, jer njima taj dio sve manje i manje znači po pitanju konkretne zarade i profita. Ukoliko RTX 5000 serija ne bude dobro prošla na recenzijama, barem onim normalnim, jer plaćenih bude ionak napretek, nVidia se možda trgne, makar ih zapravo nije briga.
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Mene zanima što budu radili s idućim naraštajem kartica ako sada prodaju tu priču o framerateu od 250. Ajde pa ima i monitora koji to mogu prikazati (koliko god bilo fake), ali koji je idući cilj? 500? Hoćeš morati imati dva monitora pa da svaki prikazuje frameove naizmjenično?
Pa ima vec i 540Hz monitora

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Jebiga, oni sad primarno prodaju AI hardver koji po komadu naplaćuju u desecima tisuća popularne valute, tak da su ove tzv. gaming kartice u ponudi samo reda-radi. Najrađe bi ljudima samo poslali sliku najdražeg im RTX modela s unaprijed dogovorenim obročnim plaćanjem po uzoru na pretplatničke streaming modele. Lako moguće da se desi ono kaj je Exy spomenul, tj. da je ovo zadnja generacija nVidia gaming kartica, jer njima taj dio sve manje i manje znači po pitanju konkretne zarade i profita. Ukoliko RTX 5000 serija ne bude dobro prošla na recenzijama, barem onim normalnim, jer plaćenih bude ionak napretek, nVidia se možda trgne, makar ih zapravo nije briga.
Apsolutno se slazem, nVidia je sada AI kompanija i sve usmjeravaju u tom smjeru, tako da mi ovaj potez da skupo naplate nesto na sta smo mi "gameri" zagrizli je zapravo logican. Idu nas izmilkat dok jos mogu.
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ok, treba mi grafička za posao... kupio bi na firmu.

Ima netko neki savjet gdje mogu probati uloviti 5090FE i kupiti na firmu (sa prijenosom poreza)?
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Pa jos nigdje, nije jos krenula sluzbena prodaja.
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Ako se ne varam oko datuma, nakon 30.1. kad izadju u prodaju, vjerujem da bude Uzishop najbolja opcija. Ja cu se njemu javiti, kao i obicno.
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Ma mislio sam ako netko ima ranijih iskustva sa RTX30xx, RTX40xx... Koliko se sjećam sa nvidia DE stora nije išlo na firme.

Ako će se moći uzeti preko UZI-a, onda nemam problema
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IMHO ne bi bilo loše da se već sad raspitaš o raspoloživosti, jer recenzije su ovaj četvrtak, prodaja krajem mjeseca, a nVidia odlučuje limitirane količine za određena tržišta.
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Ma mislio sam ako netko ima ranijih iskustva sa RTX30xx, RTX40xx... Koliko se sjećam sa nvidia DE stora nije išlo na firme.

Ako će se moći uzeti preko UZI-a, onda nemam problema
Kako koji ducan, al dosta njih ti nudi netto invoiceove (alternate b2b, proshop, caseking, notebooksbiliger, amazon de, itd.), samo se meni ne da s tim zajebavat, a i draze mi je platit nasem coviku da zaradi nego da platim svabi.
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