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Staro 10.12.2024., 08:04   #6151
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Tko visoko leti, nisko pada. Arogancija je došla na naplatu i to u tolikoj mjeri da ću se stvarno čuditi ako se cijela kompanija ne raspadne na manje segmente i pokuša preživjeti. Svejedno mi nije jasno kako su uspjeli zeznuti sami sebe jer sam već napisao da su imali dobru bazu za razvoj, a onda ih jedan Apple pretekne s M serijom procesora koja će uskoro izaći kao 5. generacija. Qualcomm koji je razvijao procesore za smartphone i tablete odjednom isporučuje procesore za prijenosna računala s Windows on ARM OS-om. A kad se Intel probudi, ispada da kasni i to debelo:
https://www.techtarget.com/searchdat...-to-combat-Arm

Za one koji se čude zašto stalno spominjem ARM, ispada da je puno kompanija/korisnika postalo svjesno da je u pitanju dobra platforma za gotovo svu moguću upotrebu, od servera, superračunala, do prijenosnih računala:
https://www.business-standard.com/te...3101481_1.html

Da se Nvidia dokopala ARM Holdinga, mislim da bi Intel komotno mogao staviti ključ u bravu. Sjetite se da je Nvidia imala vlastiti Tegra CPU i mislim da su u Nvidiji prepoznali u kom smjeru će ići IT industrija - itekako u smjeru štednje i rezanja troškova pa će kupci debelo voditi računa o cijeni uređaja i troškovima el. energije.
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Staro 10.12.2024., 09:28   #6152
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Da, nVidia je svoj ARM teren lagano već pripremila, mada im nije uspjela akvizicija, ali lako za to, kad već u serverskom dijelu kroz Grace Hopper provjereno nude ono kaj sad planiraju za ostatak tržišta. Intel je nažalost žrtva samog sebe potpomognut odlukama, odnosno kontinuiranim zajebima Uprave i menandžmenta i mogu biti sretni da ih država uopće spašava i održava na životu.
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Staro 10.12.2024., 19:35   #6154
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Arrow Lake im je još i najmanja briga, jer kak je krenulo za koji dan bude vijest da ARC Battlemage B580 tri godine kasnije i na boljem TSMC 5nm proizvodnom procesu (opet) nudi performanse u rangu RTX 3060 Ti, a Tom Petersen (1 - 2) nakon odrađene turneje, više nije u Intelu. Teško ga je slušati dok se izmotava na direktna pitanja oko high-end Battlemage modela i budućnosti ARC GPU divizije, jer po njemu i dalje sve ide dobro zacrtanim planom i programom. Ryan Shrout, Raja Koduri i Pat Gelsinger su Toma Petersena ostavili na cjedilu po pitanju prodavanja ARC magle, pa čovjek sad ide od YouTube kanala do YouTube kanala s aktivnom "technical marketing engineer" LARPing iskaznicom.
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Možda je kontrola štete i očajnički potez, ali Tom Petersenova izlaganja su par koraka iznad kožne jakne i drvene Lise. Slušam ga na HUB i baš je ugodan intervju. Heavy metal Steve ima ego koji ne može sakriti, Tim to radi puno bolje.

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Tom Petersen dan-danas ima isti pristup ko i kad je radil za nVidiju pa kroz PC Perspective s Ryanom Shroutom plaćene recenzije slagal kao tehničke osvrte.

I ove Intel ARC priče su mu iste od samog početka, tak da sad samo nastavlja, jedino kaj je ostal skroz sam u tome. OK, ima Roberta Hallocka za društvo.

Čisti PR i marketing, jedan i drugi, a onda svaki na svoj način idu okolo od firme do firme i ponavljaju šprance.
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Intel co-CEOs discuss splitting product and manufacturing businesses
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Intel's co-CEOs discussed splitting the firm's manufacturing and products businesses Thursday. A separation could address Intel's poor financial performance. It also has political implications. Intel Foundry is forming a separate operational board in the meantime, executives said. Intel's new co-CEOs said the company is creating more separation between its manufacturing and products businesses and the possibility of a formal split is still in play.

When asked if separating the two units was a possibility and if the success of the company's crucial, new "18A" process could influence the decision, CFO David Zinsner and CEO of Intel Products Michelle Johnston Holthaus, now interim co-CEOs, said preliminary moves are in progress. Ousted CEO Pat Gelsinger prioritized keeping the fabs as part of Intel proper. The fabs hold important geopolitical significance to both Intel and the US. The manufacturing part of the business also weighs on the company's financial results.

Though the co-CEOs made it clear a final decision on a potential break-up has not been made, Zinsner outlined a series of moves already in progress that could make a split easier. In addition, the company is forming a separate operational board for Intel Foundry and separating the operations and inventory management software for the two sides of the business. Until a permanent CEO is appointed by the board, the co-CEOs will manage most areas of the company together, but Zinsner alone will manage the Foundry business. The foundry aims to build a contract manufacturing business for other chip designers. Due to the sensitive, competitive intellectual property coming from clients into that business, separation is key.
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Ispada da su stvarno u velikoj banani. Da su se u nekom segmentu nametnuli kao tehnološki nadmoćniji nad konkurencijom, ne bi danas kukali o neizvjesnoj budućnosti. Još bih im i ARC grafičke kartice priznao kao solidne za prijenosnike da imaju konkurentnu cijenu, ali i tu su fulali onak debelo.
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ARC kartice bi se super uklopile da su izašle u isto vrijeme kad je i konkurencija izbacila svoje RX 6000 i RTX 3000 modele, ali nažalost ARC ponuda je zakasnila, tak da sad i s ovim novim B580 primjercima love nešto kaj smo imali prije tri-četiri godine. I još ih je k tome TSMC 5nm sigurno fino koštal, a kad su ih već naštancali, Intel nema baš neki preveliki izbor, nego ih prodati kako god znaju i umiju. Kaj se općenito Intel situacije tiče, tu su stvari itekak krivo skrenule i sad i ovo dvoje novih privremenih generalnih direktora opet pretače iz šupljeg u prazno.
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Ma zato i kažem, oprostio bih im kašnjenje i lošije performanse od konkurencije da su barem te čipove postavili na matične ploče prijenosnih računala uz neku konkurentnu cijenu. Ne bi bilo loše imati grafičku karticu na nivou Nvidije 3060 u notebooku, a za recimo 20% nižu cijenu. Ovako će prodajni ciljevi ostati samo neostvareni brojevi na papiru...
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Intelova MDF sreCtva nisu uspjela natjerati OEM/ODM društvo da implementiraju ARC umjesto nVidia i Radeon izbora, pa im je i to ostala neiskorištena prilika, jedna od mnoštva.
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Former Intel chief Pat Gelsinger, who stepped down from his leadership post a week ago, is inviting people to join him in prayer and fasting for the struggling chipmaker's employees. "Every Thursday I do a 24 hour prayer and fasting day," Gelsinger wrote on X on Sunday morning. "This week I'd invite you to join me in praying and fasting for the 100K Intel employees as they navigate this difficult period. Intel and its team is of seminal importance to the future of the industry and US." The 63-year-old Gelsinger resigned from Intel and its subsidiary, Mobileye, on Dec. 1, after spending three decades of his career at the company, including the last four years as its CEO. The chipmaker has struggled amid the rise of rivals like nVidia and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., and Gelsinger's departure comes in the midst of a four-year turnaround plan aimed at bolstering Intel's chipmaking competitiveness.
Nisu nVidia, TSMC i ostatak konkurencije krivi za Intelovu situaciju koliko ovakvi ko direktor Pat koji sad diljem društvenih mreža ne prestaje s glupim izjavama
Evo jedna prikladna za bivšeg direktora.
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Super su mi te zen/molitva/post/suosjećanje američke gluposti koje upućuje netko s par milijuna dolara na bankovnom računu nekome kome prijeti otkaz.

Sjetimo se izjave od godinu i par mjeseci:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/intel-ceo...rom-nvidia-amd

Ponekad se pitam kako može netko biti tako slijep pri zdravim očima?
A plan o 100 milijuna x86 AI-em potpomognutim mašinama u dvije godine, to ko da mu je Snoop Dogg pod utjecajem opijata prognozirao, a ne stručna ekipa oko njega.
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Točno to, tip je budala, a sad praktički podjebava ljude kojima je sredil otkaz i umjesto da šuti, jer ne vidim kakve veze više ima s Intelom - ne, on se javno nalazi prozvan za 18A proces, itd., pa ove religiozne pizdarije, jer to bude baš pomoglo. Kako da ne, posebice, nakon kaj je on osobno skoro četiri godine donosil odluke i daval izjave u rangu ove koju si linkal. Nema nitko jači od nas (Intel), cvate cveće u naše preduzeće, a Pat Gelsinger je novo ukazanje Isusa Krista koliko je bil sposoban pretvoriti Intelovu vodu u vino.
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  • Intel Kills Larrabee GPU, Will Not Bring a Discrete Graphics Product to Marke
  • Intel's Sandy Bridge Architecture Exposed
  • Intel Settles With NVIDIA: More Money, Fewer Problems, No x86
  • Updated: The License Agreement: Intel to Pay NVIDIA $1.5 Billion
  • The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested
  • Intel Announces first 22nm 3D Tri-Gate Transistors, Shipping in 2H 2011
  • Ivy Bridge GPU Performance: Up to 60% Faster than SNB & Better QuickSync
  • Intel's Unified Design: Core & Atom Now Under One Roof
  • Intel's Ivy Bridge Architecture Exposed
  • Intel's Performance Tuning Protection Plan: Warranty for Overclockers
  • The Ivy Bridge Preview: Core i7 3770K Tested
  • Intel's Haswell: 20x Lower Platform Idle Power than Sandy Bridge, 2x GPU Performance of Ivy Bridge
  • Intel: By 2020 The Size of Meaningful Compute Approaches Zero
  • Intel Q3 2012 Earnings: $3 Billion Net Income On Weakening Market; Intel To Idle Some Fab Capacity
  • Intel's Haswell Architecture Analyzed: Building a New PC and a New Intel
  • Intel's Quick Sync: Coming Soon to Your Favorite Open Source Transcoding Applications
  • The End of an Era: Intel's Desktop Motherboard Business to Ramp Down Over Next 3 Years
  • The Haswell Review: Intel Core i7-4770K & i5-4670K Tested
  • Intel Demos 14nm Broadwell: Up to 30% Lower Power than Haswell
  • Intel 14nm Progress Update: Broadwell & Airmont On Schedule
  • Intel’s 14nm Technology in Detail
  • The Intel Haswell-E CPU Review: Core i7-5960X, i7-5930K and i7-5820K Tested
  • Intel Reports Record Q4 And Full Year Revenue
  • Intel at ISSCC 2015: Reaping the Benefits of 14nm and Going Beyond 10nm
  • Intel to Acquire FPGA-Specialist Altera for $16.7 Billion
  • Intel & Cray Land Contract for 2 Dept. of Energy Supercomputers
  • Intel Announces Optane Storage Brand For 3D XPoint Products
  • The Intel 6th Gen Skylake Review: Core i7-6700K and i5-6600K Tested
  • Tick Tock On The Rocks: Intel Delays 10nm, Adds 3rd Gen 14nm Core Product "Kaby Lake"
  • Intel Announces FY 2015 Q3 Results: Strong Earnings Despite Client Computing Drop
  • Intel Reports Q4 FY 2015 Results: Record Revenue For Q4
  • Intel’s ‘Tick-Tock’ Seemingly Dead, Becomes ‘Process-Architecture-Optimization’
  • EUV Lithography Makes Good Progress, Still Not Ready for Prime Time
  • Intel's Changing Future: Smartphone SoCs Broxton & SoFIA Officially Cancelled
  • Intel Announces Major Workforce Restructuring: 11% of Workforce to Be Cut Over Next Year
  • Intel Announces Q3 FY 2016 Earnings: Record Quarterly Revenue
  • Intel Announces Record Quarterly Revenue And Full-Year Revenue For Q4'2016
  • Intel to Acquire Mobileye for $15 Billion
  • Intel Announces Q1 2017 Financial Results: Record Quarter
  • Intel Discontinues the Intel Developer Forum; IDF17 Cancelled
  • Intel Announces Q2 FY 2017 Earnings: Record Quarter
  • Intel Officially Reveals Post-8th Generation Core Architecture Code Name: Ice Lake, Built on 10nm+
  • Intel Displays 10nm Wafer, Commits to 10nm ‘Falcon Mesa’ FPGAs
  • Intel to Develop Discrete GPUs, Hires Raja Koduri as Chief Architect & Senior VP
  • Intel Forms Product Assurance and Security Group amid Meltdown and Spectre Fallout
  • Intel Delays Mass Production of 10 nm CPUs to 2019
  • Intel's CEO Brian Krzanich Resigns, CFO Robert Swan as Interim CEO
  • Intel 10nm Production Update: Systems on Shelves For Holiday 2019
  • Intel to Split Manufacturing Group into Three Segments
  • Intel: EUV-Enabled 7nm Process Tech is on Track
  • Robert Swan Named CEO of Intel
  • Intel Details Manufacturing through 2023: 7nm, 7+, 7++, with Next Gen Packaging
  • Intel Process Technology Update: 10nm Server Products in 1H 2020, Accelerated 7nm in 2021
  • Intel Publishes Letter to Customers Apologizing for CPU Shipment Delays
  • Intel’s Manufacturing Roadmap from 2019 to 2029: Back Porting, 7nm, 5nm, 3nm, 2nm, and 1.4 nm
  • Intel 7nm Delayed By 6 Months; Company to Take “Pragmatic” Approach in Using Third-Party Fabs
  • Intel Reorganizes In Wake of 7nm Woes; Chief Engineering Officer Murthy Renduchintala To Depart
  • Intel Appoints Pat Gelsinger as New CEO, From Feb 15th
Citiraj:
  • Farewell to ATi, AMD to Retire the ATi Brand Later this Year
  • AMD Discloses Bobcat & Bulldozer Architectures at Hot Chips 2010
  • What a Day: AMD's CEO Dirk Meyer Resigns
  • AMD and GlobalFoundries, CES 2011
  • Details on AMD Bulldozer: Opterons to Feature Configurable TDP
  • AMD Confirms 32nm Yield Issues at Global Foundries
  • AMD Ships Bulldozer for Servers, Desktops to Follow in Q4
  • AMD Names Rory Read as New CEO
  • AMD Releases Opteron 4200 "Valencia" and 6200 "Interlagos" Series
  • AMD's Rory Read Outlines AMD's Future Strategy
  • AMD's Eric Demers is Leaving the Company
  • AMD's 2012 - 2013 Client CPU/GPU/APU Roadmap Revealed
  • The Bulldozer Aftermath: Delving Even Deeper
  • AMD Hires Ex-Intel Labs Architect, John Gustafson, As Chief Graphics Product Architecture
  • AMD's Steamroller Detailed: 3rd Generation Bulldozer Core
  • AMD Launches Opteron 6300 series with "Piledriver" cores
  • AMD Will Build 64-bit ARM based Opteron CPUs for Servers, Production in 2014
  • AMD Q3 2012 Earnings: $157M Loss; 15% of Workforce To Be Cut
  • AMD Evolving Fast to Survive in the Server Market Jungle
  • AMD’s Jaguar Architecture: The CPU Powering Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Kabini & Temash
  • AMD Demonstrates "FreeSync", Free G-Sync Alternative, at CES 2014
  • AMD Reorganizes Business Units; Names Dr. Lisa Su as COO
  • AMD Appoints Dr. Lisa Su as President & CEO, Rory Read Steps Down
  • AMD’s 2016-2017 Datacenter Roadmap: x86, ARM, and GPGPU
  • AMD’s 2016-2017 x86 Roadmap: Zen Is In, Skybridge Is Out
  • AMD Zen Microarchitecture: Dual Schedulers, Micro-Op Cache and Memory Hierarchy Revealed
  • AMD Zen Microarchiture Part 2: Extracting Instruction-Level Parallelism
  • AMD Set to Launch Ryzen Before March 3rd, Meeting Q1 Target
  • AMD Launches Ryzen: 52% More IPC, Eight Cores for Under $330, Pre-order Today, On Sale March 2nd
  • The AMD Zen and Ryzen 7 Review: A Deep Dive on 1800X, 1700X and 1700
  • The AMD Ryzen 5 1600X vs Core i5 Review: Twelve Threads vs Four at $250
  • Making AMD Tick: A Very Zen Interview with Dr. Lisa Su, CEO
  • AMD Unveils ‘Chiplet’ Design Approach: 7nm Zen 2 Cores Meet 14 nm I/O Die
  • AMD Previews EPYC ‘Rome’ Processor: Up to 64 Zen 2 Cores
  • The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X Raising The Bar
  • AMD Q4: 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core 3970X, Coming November 25th
  • AMD Q3 FY 2019 Earnings Report: Party Like It’s 2005
  • AMD’s 64-Core Threadripper 3990X, only $3990! Coming February 7th
Intel i AMD štorije u rasponu od kakvih deset godina, jer izgleda da u Intelu i dalje ne kuže (1 - 2) u kakvoj su situaciji.
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Sve bude OK, samo treba imati (po)vjere(nje) u Intelov menandžment.
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CPU king Intel faces rocky road to achieve GPU dreams + Intel – everyone’s favourite second source?
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Intel’s Falcon Shores GPU may (not) meet expectations; Gaudi chips are a weak AI entry product; Interim co-CEO is still learning the Xeon product line. These were some of the grim learnings from a data-center product roadmap update provided last week by Intel following Pat Gelsinger’s retirement. Intel’s interim co-CEOs Michelle Holthaus and Dave Zinsner believe that GPUs are the processors of the future, with AI still in its infancy. This view differs from Gelsinger’s position, which just a few months ago doubled down on CPUs. Intel has just three guaranteed products on its data center and AI roadmap, including two Xeon chips – Diamond Rapids and Clearwater Forest – and one GPU, Falcon Shores. Holthaus admitted that AMD is doing a better job of servicing customers. She said Intel would take its time to invest in technology to create products customers want.

Holthaus admitted that Intel needed a general-purpose GPU for long-term competitiveness in the AI market, which was just getting started. Holthaus said computing had shifted from CPUs to GPUs, where Intel was absent. That’s another reason why Intel needed to release Falcon Shores, primarily to establish a presence in the GPU market. This shift represents a U-turn from Gelsinger’s recent emphasis on x86 CPUs, which could give Intel a place in the nVidia ecosystem. Holthaus disagrees with Gelsinger and believes GPUs are the future, and Intel should have a product in this space. Holthaus acknowledged weakness in the Xeon chip market as AMD was servicing customers better. She said her job was to win back customers. Her initial task will be to learn about Xeons, the market, and the pivots and changes the company needs to make.

Intel’s Granite Rapids was expected to change the company’s fortunes in servers but is now putting its faith in Diamond Rapids. Holthaus, also CEO of Intel Products, has a sales background, and Zinsner is the Chief Financial Officer. The call made one thing obvious: there’s a lack of engineering leadership at the top level. Previous CEOs, including Intel’s Paul Otellini, came from marketing, and Bob Swan was a financial executive. There’s no engineering focus. These conflicting statements may confuse customers looking for package deals of CPUs and GPUs to build AI installations. The CPU+GPU package has proven successful for AMD and nVidia.

Intel has gone back to being a PC- and manufacturing-first company, with data centers and AI somewhere in the background. Intel is more competitive in PCs, with good products ready to go. Previously, Gelsinger committed to producing data center chips in Intel’s factories. Clearwater Forest will be made on the 18A node. However, Intel is willing to use TSMC for data center chips. The interim co-CEOs said the data center focus is to build good products for customers. Intel repeats this message every time a new CEO arrives and predictably fails. The short-sighted approach has hurt Intel repeatedly.
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I tak, glorificirana prodavačica bude se sad kao privremena (nova) generalna direktorica Intel proizvoda malo upoznala sa Xeon linijom, a pajdaš računovođa bude joj valjda pomogel u okršaju sa 192C/384T EPYC Turin modelima, tako da joj svakodnevno proslijedi neki mail za mindfulness radionicu. I nakon toga daily-sync s Upravom za konkretne rasprave oko toga tko od njih ima više bodova na MultiPlus kartici u lokalnom Konzumu.
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Bojim se da će i teta Mihaela pakirati kofere kada Nvidia izbaci novi ARM CPU:
https://architosh.com/2024/11/nvidia...-end-arm-chip/

Ovo čudo od procesora ako izađe kako je najavljeno s RTX grafičkom karticom biti će noćna mora i Intelu i AMD-u. Zanimljivo da je i AMD uvidio da ARM arhitektura ima dosta prednosti.

Izgleda da će Microsoftova podrška za Windows on ARM dobiti veći zamah nego što su i sami mislili - bacite pogled na uvod u ARM topic, početak 2021. godine:
https://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=306559
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Da, kak smo komentirali, nVidia bude svoj dio sigurno sprovela u djelo, a bome i ostali se na ovaj ili onaj način nekak snalaze, jedino Intel ima skroz tužnu situaciju.

Sudeći po izjavama ovo dvoje (privremenih) direktora, u Intelu jednostavno nemaju nikakav odgovor na išta od ovoga kaj im konkurencija sprema za svih strana.
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Je, samo što RTX u kombinaciji s ARM procesorom baca skroz drugo svjetlo na nadolazeće stvari. To je ono na što skrećem pozornost jer se Intel stalno vadi na loše grafičke performanse ARM-a. Qualcommov CPU je sasvim pristojan po performansama, ali za gaming treba nešto jaču grafičku karticu s dobrim drajverima.
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Zato sam spomenul da nVidia već ima sve to posloženo u vidu serverskog Grace Hopper izdanja, a za običan puk onda ide provjerena verzija takvog rješenja, samo razvodnjeno za tzv. mainstream consumer publiku i to je to. Intel može do iznemoglosti pričati kaj god ih volja o ARM rješenjima, kad ionak nemaju uporište o ičemu, sve njihove prognoze, najave i objave vezano za ARM i ostatak konkurencije su bile totalno pogrešne. U Intelu trenutno ne mogu sa sigurnošću reći da li imaju dovoljno tonera i papira za printere po uredima, a kamoli bilo kakve konkretne tehničke pretpostavke i planove za sučeljavanja s nikad jačom i mnogobrojnijom konkurencijom, od čega je AMD samo jedan (manji) dio.
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Intel je posrao i AMD-ovu metodu povezivanja čipova, tzv. 'ljepilo', a sada su je i sami počeli koristiti. Što god Intel kritizira, uvijek završi kao uspješno.
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Je, s tim je počelo, a kasnije je direktor Pat imal toliko hitova, da komotno može izdati kompilaciju.
Pat Gelsinger Intel CEO 2021 - 2024:
  • Intel has its best days in front of us
  • Intel has shaped my entire career
  • Intel will provide the best products in every category
  • Intel will return to become unquestioned leader in process technology
  • Intel is a national asset
  • Intel can bounce back from hard times and become stronger
  • Key leaders are coming back to Intel
  • Intel boss Pat Gelsinger calls ARM's PC threat insignificant
  • Intel CEO says nVidia’s AI dominance is pure luck
  • Intel CEO argues inference is better for the industry, nVidia CUDA days are numbered
  • Intel CEO Gelsinger says AMD is in the rear-view mirror after Alder Lake

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Beleaguered chipmaker Intel has been sued yet again by shareholders over its foundry business, this time in a derivative lawsuit targeting executives and board members. A derivative lawsuit, such as a similar claim filed in June, is brought by investors on behalf of the company, which receives any damages awarded as a result of the litigation. In a shareholder class action lawsuit, such as the one filed in August, the shareholders stand to benefit if they prevail. The complaint [PDF], filed in federal court in San Jose, California, accuses two corporate officers – former CEO Pat Gelsinger and interim co-CEO/CFO David Zinsner – and various board members of violating securities law and their fiduciary duties, unjust enrichment and wasting corporate assets.

It seeks restitution and punitive damages from the individual defendants that, if awarded, would be paid to Intel, plus court costs for the attorneys representing the plaintiff, LR Trust. For that reason, the legal filing lists the recent compensation of the named defendants, such as the combined total of more than $207 million awarded to Gelsinger in 2021, 2022, and 2023. The derivatives claim focuses on Intel's floundering foundry business. Gelsinger announced in October 2022 that Intel would pursue "an internal foundry model," a reflection of the company's strategic shift toward making chips both for itself and external customers. In June 2023, the chip biz said Intel Foundry Services (IFS) would begin reporting its own profits and losses starting in Q1 2024. And on April 2, 2024, the chip maker revealed that IFS had an operating loss of $7 billion on sales of $18.9 billion in 2023.

Then in Q2 2024, the company reported an IFS operating loss of $2.83 billion, substantially worse than the foundry businesses' $1.87 billion operating loss in Q2 2023. The disappointing quarter was accompanied by layoffs and the suspension of Intel's dividend as of Q4. In December, Gelsinger resigned as CEO. The complaint points to inadequate risk disclosure in Intel's 2024 Proxy Statement as evidence that executives and board members failed to meet their obligations to shareholders and allowed the company to make false and misleading statements about its financial prospects.

It says, "[A]s later admitted by Intel, and in breach of the individual defendants’ fiduciary duties, the true status of Intel’s affairs at the time were that: (1) IFS’s growth was not indicative of revenue growth reportable under its segment; (2) IFS experienced substantial operating losses in 2023; (3) IFS experienced a decline in product profit driven by lower internal revenue; (4) due to the foregoing, IFS could not be a strong tailwind to Intel’s foundry strategy; and (5) the Company failed to maintain adequate internal controls." Intel, which also faces a lawsuit filed in November over chip voltage claims, declined to comment.
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Ak bu nvidijin ARM lupao guzice onda će AMD rezat cijene, bit će opet nešto za kupce od 3D modela
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nVidia bude sa svojim ARM rješenjima prvo svima uzela mobilno tržište, tj. Apple, Intel i Qualcomm su na popisu prioriteta.
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Teško da ce Apple kupovati čipove od njih. A ne vjerujem ni da ce Apple korisnici pohrliti sa iOS na Android zbo nVidionog čipa.
Qualcomm bi se mogao pokazati kao tvrd orah a Intelu se ionako nema što više preoteti. To što ima je legacy.
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Zanimljivo da će to biti idući battleground AMD-a i Nvidie, ARM čipovi. AMD naravno nema kapital koji Nvidia ima iza sebe da to bude poštena borba, ali ima i malo širi portfelj iz kojeg može vući tehnologije.

Imam osjećaj da će ovo pitanje biti ključno za 4-5 godina kad Windowsi postignu potpunu kompatibilnost, a do tada je samo priprema hardvera.
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Teško da ce Apple kupovati čipove od njih. A ne vjerujem ni da ce Apple korisnici pohrliti sa iOS na Android zbo nVidionog čipa.
nVidia želi taj dio tržišta, ne želi svoje prodavati konkurenciji, pa da ovi prepakiraju, želi sve kaj ovi sad imaju u prijenosnom tržišnom segmentu.

nVidia ARM CPU + RTX GPU + Linux OS i imali budu sve kaj sad nude npr. popularne handheld konzole, samo u puno jačem/ozbiljnijem mobilnom/laptop izdanju.
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Baš sam pročitao vijesti oko tužbe, ali na Tomi. I niže komentar phead128...


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You have an unlimited budget, and you are going to deliver five nodes in four years. We are going to get back to unquestioned process leadership.’
- Pat Gelsinger, Oct 4, 2022
If the qualifications to become Intel CEO is just giving "unlimited budgets" to engineers and promising ridiculous 5N4Y timelines, then maybe even I can become Intel CEO one day.


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