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Staro 05.08.2006., 22:05   #1
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Talking Koliko vam ide 3800+ X2?
Evo da pokrenem jedan thread o tome, obzirom da mnogi danas uzimaju ovaj proc zbog vrlo povoljne cijene.
Dakle koliko ste ga uspjeli dici pri kojem naponu? Koliko ide bez dizanja napona?
Bilo bi dobro i da napisete cime ga hladite i koje su temperature.
Vjerujem da ovo mnoge zanima, ne samo mene
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Staro 05.08.2006., 22:14   #2
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2520MHz-1.35v 1:1 520 @3-4-4-8 2.7v
2500MHz-1.325v 1:1 500 @3-4-4-8 2.65v
zalosno, ali istinito, dalje nisam ni probao

i uzimajte dok jos ima
cijene nece padati puno,a nestasica je
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Vjerujem da ovo mnoge zanima, ne samo mene
pretekao si me za thread

ljudi pišite za ovaj proc, da vidimo kolko se isplati, možda investiram s obzirom na cijenu
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Staro 05.08.2006., 22:39   #4
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2480 MhZ default napon, artic cooling freezer pro, temp bez CnQ cca 50 load, cca 33-35 idle. Ocekivao sam toplije.Ploca ASROCK dual SATA2.

na 1,375 ide 2500 MhZ.
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2480 MhZ default napon, artic cooling freezer pro, temp bez CnQ cca 50 load, cca 33-35 idle. Ocekivao sam toplije.Ploca ASROCK dual SATA2.

na 1,375 ide 2500 MhZ.
sredi sig,a ja se majo ispricavam na voltazama ,jos mi venice zvoni
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Staro 06.08.2006., 01:30   #6
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24/7 => 2670 1.36V (zokruženo na 2650 radi memorije)
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He wants his own Tardis.
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Staro 06.08.2006., 01:52   #7
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Lijep si promjerak ufatio, predpostavljam da je kupljen jos po skupoj varijanti, pa barem neka utjeka..


Ono na 1,45 kolko ti je tam temp kod full loada- prime, par sati?

Jas am sad freezera na potenciometar pa smanjio vrtnju za pola, sad dok surfam kod 2,48 GHu, 35 C . Stvarno hladi ko lud, a i ne puno manje kad se smanji turaža...
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Staro 06.08.2006., 11:14   #8
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I ja imam Freezera, vidim bit ce mi dovolja kad uzmem X2 Fino idu ti X2
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Staro 06.08.2006., 11:22   #9
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24/7 => 2670 1.36V (zokruženo na 2650 radi memorije)
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MAX => 2830 1.45V

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Da mi je takav Zbilja jako dobar primjerak. Koliko se grije kad je na 2830MHz?
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Staro 06.08.2006., 12:36   #10
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imao sam ja jedan primjerak još početkom godine na "posudbi"...po staroj cijeni naravno...



vodeno i vcore na auto...

nisam imao vremena za testove stabilnosti, ali koliko se sjećam, oko 2.7ghz na stock naponu je trebao ici...

inače, 3800 x2 nisu neki overclockeri, bila je dobra serija krajem prošle i početkom ove godine i to je to...max što se može očekivati je oko 2.6-2.7ghz...
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Staro 06.08.2006., 12:58   #11
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inače, 3800 x2 nisu neki overclockeri, bila je dobra serija krajem prošle i početkom ove godine i to je to...max što se može očekivati je oko 2.6-2.7ghz...
Pa nije ni to loše - 30-35% overclock na stocku - dušu dalo za stabilan rad 24/7 ...
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I am capable of conversing with you
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He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
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comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 06.08.2006., 14:06   #12
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ma da, ali mi je čudno da max koliko ide je zapravo stock napon...

ja sam mu dao 1.6V sa vodenim hlađenjem i nije htio preko 2.9ghz nikak... to ne volim...
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Staro 06.08.2006., 15:22   #13
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A čuj stvar ukusa (ili bolje reći potrebe)... ja bi uvijek rađe uzeo proc koji radi stabilno sa 35% clocka na stocku nego neki koji se clocka 50% ali se pri tom 'znoji' ko svinja i zahtjeva ekstremne napone i ekstremno hlađenje... u konačnici meni treba stabilan komp na kojem mogu nešto i napraviti a ne samo benchati.
Što se mene tiče ovaj proc je jako dobar kompromis između performansi i stabilnosti jer iako ima i boljih clockera mislim da je ovaj daleko 'najnezahtjevniji'
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At first glance
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Calm, harmless, at ease.

But this is by design.
You see, it is through decades of research and rigorous training that I have crafted this façade of normalcy.

And now, through intense concentration,
I am able to function in a social setting.
I can speak at length with educated people about
pertinent matters of public importance,
such as literature,
or the current political climate in Europe.

I am capable of conversing with you
without ever revealing that just underneath the surface
of this manufactured veneer
there hides an altogether different person.
A monster, some might say.
My alter-ego.
He is the opposite of the image I project.
He is the antithesis of Cool.
He is the LAST person you want to get trapped in a conversation with.

He is The Geek.
The obsessive science fiction movie watching,
comic book collecting,
Monty Python dialogue memorizing,
Dungeons and Dragons playing GEEK
that I struggle daily to keep hidden from the world.

But The Geek Wants Out.

He want to talk to you.
He wants to give you his doctoral dissertation on why
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
is the greatest fucking film of all time!

He wants to bitch slap you because
you’ve never seen Big Trouble in Little China.
What? Have you been living in a fucking cave?!

He wants to kick your ass in Star Wars Trivial Pursuit.
And he will.
Because he’s a fucking Geek.

And he wants his toys.
He wants the complete set
in mint condition,
still in the box.
He wants every item on the planet that is even remotely related to Ultraman.
Because Ultraman is Airwolf!

He could give a squirt of piss
about sports or politics or rhetoric.
Such things are of no consequence to him.
What matters is the release date of the next Lord of the Rings movie!

You see, The Geek can’t wait.
The Geek has no patience.
He wants what he wants when he wants it.
And all he wants is stupid shit!

He wants his own Tardis.
He wants his own light saber.
He wants to buy a DeLorean and he wants to drive it 88 miles per hour.

He wants movies.
He wants to see the Director’s Cut.
He wants the impossible to find Japanese bootleg with
6 minutes of never-before-seen footage.

He wants to watch Blade Runner. Again.
He wants to watch Brazil. Again.
He wants to watch A Clockwork Orange.
Again and Again!

But I deprive him of these things, as best I can,
until I can no longer ignore his voice
screaming in my head.

I am Jekyl. He is Hyde.
I am Bruce Banner. He is the Hulk.
Especially the Hulk from issues #272 to #378.

But no longer!
I am putting a stop to all this nerdy shit right now!
I’m an adult, for Christ’s sake!
And this body isn’t big enough for the both of us.
One of us has to go, and it’s gonna be him.
I banishing the Geek forever to the Phantom Zone,
just like in Superman II !
Because, in the end –
there can be only one.
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Staro 08.08.2006., 09:15   #14
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Je li to sve? Rekao bih da vas ima jos sa X2...hajde nemojte se stidjeti
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bah ocekivao sam vise od x2 3800+ makar do 3,0 i više...cak i moj slabašni vincek moze potegnuti do 2,8
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Ha cuj, ovdje su dvije jezgre od kojih se obje ne moraju clockat jednako, tj. jedna moze bit losiji primjerak od druge. Pa su samim time i sanse za dobar OC smanjene. Bar ja tako vidim stvar, mozda grijesim u necem, makar ne vjerujem
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Mislim da su kod X2 jezgre sa istog wafera, bukvalno jedna do druge. Zato bi se trebale jednako clockat. Dok je recimo intel kod pentiuma D(ne znam kako je sa Conroe) "lijepio" jezgre koje su mogle bit sa razlicitih wafera, zato je i imao nize troskove kod izrade DC proceva...
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ljudovi, što je bolje, maknut se sa 2x512 na 2x1gb i ostat na veniceu 3000 ili sa venicea 3000 na 3800 x2 sa 2x512mb?
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Slazem se, ipak je bolje imat dvije gige rama nego DC proc...
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više rama i dual core nemaju veze jedno s drugim, dvije potpuno različite stvari.
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više rama i dual core nemaju veze jedno s drugim, dvije potpuno različite stvari.
Ali koliko sam skužio, on je samo htio pitati za savjet kako potrošiti pare (što je bolje)
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Staro 10.08.2006., 01:19   #25
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Šta ćemu više od 2x2Ghz? Brzo, hladno...
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Staro 10.08.2006., 01:25   #26
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ja vučko nisam kod sebe neku drasticnu razliku u temp primjetio ak je na full 2,5 (1,375V)GHZ ili na 1,2 GHz 1,1 V..

maksimalno 3-4 stupnja. evo sad je 34 a onak bi bilo 37-38, naravno pod uvjetom da samo tipkam u browswru ili slicno, a ne da kodiram video.

Lod loada se temp mijenja drasticno al to je normalno.
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Zadnje izmijenjeno od: BrunoZG. 10.08.2006. u 11:31.
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Staro 10.08.2006., 01:44   #27
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Je, ali ako ideš tako, 3,4,5 stupnja na svakih 0.1V, naprema 1.1V i 1.4V (1.35V whatever ), razlika je 10°C pa sigurno i više (pogtovo load).

Gle, kako kome, netko zna da mu treba višak snage, netko misli da mu treba, a netko vidi da osim surfanja i slušanja glazbe, i povremenog igranja ili kodiranja 1 stvar na tjedan, ne treba jača stvar...

Ako kodira ili se igra sa velikim fotkama, onda se osjeti, ali (nad)prosječnom overklokeru, važan je onaj osjećaj da se nekaj "prži" i da je dobil neš gratis.
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Staro 10.08.2006., 08:14   #28
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Je, ali ako ideš tako, 3,4,5 stupnja na svakih 0.1V, naprema 1.1V i 1.4V (1.35V whatever ), razlika je 10°C pa sigurno i više (pogtovo load).

Gle, kako kome, netko zna da mu treba višak snage, netko misli da mu treba, a netko vidi da osim surfanja i slušanja glazbe, i povremenog igranja ili kodiranja 1 stvar na tjedan, ne treba jača stvar...

Ako kodira ili se igra sa velikim fotkama, onda se osjeti, ali (nad)prosječnom overklokeru, važan je onaj osjećaj da se nekaj "prži" i da je dobil neš gratis.
Apsoluto istina... Kad sam ja vidio što može i kako sve vrtio ovaj Venice vidio sam da mi sa ovom grafom baš nikakve koristi nema ići iznad 2200-2300 na njemu a i to je samo zbog psihičkog faktora...

Čak bi i stock bio dosta brz i za mene - bez sumnje...
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Razlika je puno veca kad se digne napon nego kad se digne takt...
Moj je 3000+ trenutno na 1,8GHz i 1,18V, hladi ga box cooler na 1700 obrtaja...i brzo i hladno...
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Staro 11.08.2006., 01:38   #30
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ljudi evo još jednog pitanja.... malo kompliciranog i njubovskog al ajde
odlučio sam da će moj sljedeći proc biti 3800 x2.... e sad razmišljam i o promjeni ploče, neku bolju.... ova mi sad ide sa ovim procesorom do negdje 280, dali je moguće da će sa drugim procesorom ići niže/više.... ova ploča mi trenutno ograničava procesor, i brijo sam mjenjat al reko ako mi je sljedeći procesor 3800 njemu je 280 dosta za njegov vrh, pa nema potrebe mjenjat ploču a i sad 400mhz više s ovi procesorom ne znači mi baš neš... e sad neznam kak bi točno formulirao pitanje ... dal mi se isplati recimo mjenjat ovu ploču za ultra d kad budem stavljao 3800x2, dail će se on osjećati bojle na ultra d na istom taktu, uzmimo da ga držim na 270(2700mhz, taman kolk kobi ja kloko 3800x2) i na ovoj sad ploči i ultra d... dali bi on postizao bolje perfomanse na ultra d ili il tak neš.... ma eto ak ste shvatili kaj me zanima odgovorite ak ne nemojte se smijat: bonker :
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