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stef 03.06.2009. 08:54

ATI 5xxx serija
 
AMD/ATI danas na Computexu navodno ima preview prvog DX11 čipa :)
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/03/a...irectx-11-gpu/

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by Charlie Demerjian
File under Microprocessors and Graphics and Rumors

June 2, 2009

JUST BEFORE NOON Taipei time on Wendesday, ATI is going to to drop a bombshell on the graphics world, showing off working 40nm DX11 silicon. Nvidia has yet to tape out a DX11 part or put a 40nm chip on the market.

The cards that will be showed off are Evergreen/Cypress, what is commonly referred to as R870. That code name however is not used internally, so if you ever see any leaked specs or charts with R870 on them, they are flat out faked. There have been several of these bandied around, but they are all laughably off.

AMD promised that they would have DX11 cards out on the market by the Windows 7 launch, and barring a massive and as of yet undetected problem, it looks like they will make that with ease. In the mean time, at the company's Computex press conferences, Nvidia distinctly avoided any mention of DX11 or parts that run it..

Mid-day tomorrow, the winners and losers for the next 2-3 quarters will become very very clear.
AMD demonstrates tessellation on the worlds first DirectX 11 graphics processor

DraŽ 03.06.2009. 10:17

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14026/1/


http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...n_die_shot.jpg

stef 03.06.2009. 10:44

Kratak osvrt na Anandu, uz procjenu površine jezgre i broja tranzistora:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3573

Gjurovski 04.06.2009. 10:26

Mali info:
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-339149.aspx

Igor_Zg 04.06.2009. 13:02

a kad cca dolazi taj novi GPU? :fiju::D

Lihto 04.06.2009. 13:30

tamo 10,11mj. pošto su rekli zajedno sa Win 7,a možda i prije jer "AMD promised that they would have DX11 cards out on the market by the Windows 7 launch" znači do izlaska bi već trebalo bit tržište puno :)

Melani 04.06.2009. 15:07

A kaj s novim tridečmarkom ?
kad bu to,ima kakvih ss već ?
makar lažnih?

greg SE 04.06.2009. 19:24

Bemti nisu ni proizvedene a ti bi ih vec benchao?
Btw, nije ni za dx10 cmark odmah izasao

Majo 04.06.2009. 20:57

Vantage?

greg SE 04.06.2009. 21:04

a da, kasnio je vise od godinu dana za vistom.

Melani 04.06.2009. 21:15

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Autor greg SE (Post 1354782)
Bemti nisu ni proizvedene a ti bi ih vec benchao?
Btw, nije ni za dx10 cmark odmah izasao

Kaj bi drugo s tim grafama?
Pa vantage je osim još 2-3 igre jedino i mogao pošteno iskoristiti dx10. :D:chears:

DraŽ 04.06.2009. 21:24

Sada će skoro sve igrice dolaziti u dx10, dx10.1 verzijama i onda kada dođe windows 7 i dx11 grafičke ( za par mjeseci) onda prelazimo na dx11 igrice, a realno gledajući koliko uopće ima dx10(.1) igrica vrijednih spomena.

Crysis se u to neubraja, jer i na dx9 se može pokrenut vhigh.

Ja bi samo spomenuo assassins creed,HAWX, farcry 2 i možda još jednu, makar i kod njih nema neke razlike između dx9 i dx10(.1)...

Nadam se da će DX11 donesti vidljive razlike.

Mephsto 04.06.2009. 21:34

Razlike tipa da kad ustrijeliš nekog aliena kiselina ti doslovce špricne po rukama i tastaturi, te ih sprži!:suicide:

Mogli bi se proizvođači softwarea i hardwarea malo više družiti... team building i to....

McG 04.06.2009. 21:56

There is a DX11 gaming system lurking deep in Computex but we managed to hunt it down as usual. We can't provide you a close up right now but judging from the looks of it, the card is about 8.5" long, dual slot and requires a 6-pin power. This card probably belongs to the mainstream segment (RV840), part of the AMD's DX11 Evergreen family. The silicon is at A10 revision right now and we can expect another spin before it enters mass production. Targeted launch of the first DX11 part is in September before the Windows 7 hits the market on October 22nd. Some benchmarks later...
http://www.pohrani.com/t/2d/kK/1fFFtpaf/image.jpg
Izvor: VR-Zone

DraŽ 04.06.2009. 22:52

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Autor Mephsto (Post 1354855)
Razlike tipa da kad ustrijeliš nekog aliena kiselina ti doslovce špricne po rukama i tastaturi, te ih sprži!:suicide:

Mogli bi se proizvođači softwarea i hardwarea malo više družiti... team building i to....

To je već previše...

Sn4k3 04.06.2009. 23:00

hehe :roller:
preduhitrio si me draž

JC Denton 05.06.2009. 09:43

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Autor Mephsto (Post 1354855)
Mogli bi se proizvođači softwarea i hardwarea malo više družiti... team building i to....

:roller::care:

viper 05.06.2009. 12:33

ide serija 5 XD nadam se da se malo imena izmjneit jer su vec dosadni s tim x850 x870 x890 za par godina ce bit 10870x2 haha :D

DraŽ 05.06.2009. 15:43

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Autor V1p3r (Post 1355075)
ide serija 5 XD nadam se da se malo imena izmjneit jer su vec dosadni s tim x850 x870 x890 za par godina ce bit 10870x2 haha :D

A šta ti tu smeta?

Uvijek kada trebaju izbacit 10000 seriju oni krenu s brojevima ispočetka.

nvidia -> 8800, 9800 -> 200 -> 300 ...
ati -> 9800 -> x800 -> x1800 -> hd2-> hd3 ->hd4 ...

i vjerovatno će opet ispočetka krenut.

Shvaćam da bi bilo previše brojeva onda:D, ati je to malo bolje riješio, stavio je rimsko 10 tj. X ispred pa dobijemo u biti 10800... Ali onda x1800 nema logike tj. bila bi 101 800???
Ma glavno da oni štancaju isplative grafičke.

tocka 05.06.2009. 16:05

kaj se mene tice moze se zvati i "govno revolution zx" sam nek tera sve kak' treba i nek je jeftina

DraŽ 24.07.2009. 00:11

ATi lansira DX11 grafičke za 7 tjedana?

Pisao Theo Valić, a koliko čujem na forumu, njemu se netreba vjerovat?


Slike grafičkih čipova sa kodnim imenima :D

Metamphetamine 24.07.2009. 21:21

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Ja bi jednog Cypress-a :kafa:

DraŽ 27.07.2009. 21:33

"We’ve confirmed something that we’ve heard a long time ago, but we could not second it. Now we know that RV770 design concepts are the guidelines for the design of ATI's upcoming chip that well all keep calling RV870. This Evergreen generation chip has the same design concepts but you can expect faster speeds and more shader units.

The shader units are changed in order to accommodate DirectX 11 needs as this is the big focus of the chip. The chip is still scheduled for late Q3 2009 introduction, most likely Septemberish time and it will undoubtedly be the first Direct X 11 chip on the market.

Nvidia’s GT300, a next generation chip that also carries another codename but all keeps calling it GT300, is as far as we know the new architecture, something better than GT200 and you should expect some radical design changes."

Fudzilla

We can confirm that today at an AMD place in Sunnyvale we had a chance to see DirectX 11 card, up and running. We had one in our hands on one of the cards and we’ve seen one running a few DirectX 11 technology demos. So DirectX 11 hardware from ATI is real and not a Power Point presentation.

The card is a prototype and it will probably launch later this year. So far, everyone keeps calling the card Evergreen. However, we insist in calling the card RV870 and we can tell you that this should be a performance card, not a cheap one.

From what we’ve seen, it can do tessellation and few other tricks from the DirectX 11 SDK kit. The general idea is that ATI is definitely ahead of introducing DirectX 11 hardware and this one is ought to be a 40nm chip. We don’t know about the general performance, it’s still too early for 3Dmark scores.

Fudzilla

d4rk_ch1ld 12.08.2009. 02:57

DX11
 
Nemaju vremena programeri napravit pošteni engine da podrzava sve funkcije DX11 i još da se vrti prihvatljivim framerateom na prvim karticama.

Gilbert5 15.08.2009. 21:29

AMD Demonstrates DirectX 11 Video Cards
 
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AMD invited Legit Reviews up to their private suite in the hotel that Quakecon 2009 is being hosted at for a first look at gaming on one of their upcoming DirectX 11 graphics cards. This graphics card has not been officially named yet, but it has the internal code name of 'Evergreen' and was first shown to the media back at Computex over in Taiwan earlier this year. Once we arrived in the AMD suite we were introduced to not one, but two systems running DX11 hardware! One system was setup running a bunch of DX11 SDKs and the other system was running the demo for the upcoming game title Wolfenstein. The Wolfenstein video game demo uses just DX9, so it really doesn't show off DirectX 11 performance or functionality, but it does show that the GPU is up and running.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1040/1/

bluefluid 19.08.2009. 00:46

AMD demonstrating DX11 hardware at QuakeCon 2009





bluefluid 22.08.2009. 15:26

Radeon HD 5850
 
Photo's ATI Juniper (Radeon HD 5850) surface
Izvor:guru3d

ATI's DX11 class Evergreen family will contain five products. Since the flagship X2 version is made up of two GPUs, there are four code-names assigned for the initial product lineup.
  • Cypress – dual-chip flagship graphics equipped with two RV870 chips;
  • Juniper – single-chip mainstream graphics solution(s) based on RV870 ;
  • Redwood – single chip mainstream graphics solution(s) based on RV830 ;
  • Cedar – single chip entry-level graphics solution(s) based on RV810 ;
  • Hemlock – unknown



ATI to launch DX11 cards in USA at USS Hornet carrier
Izvor:guru3d

bluefluid 24.08.2009. 13:32

Radeon HD 5800
 
ATI DX11 Cypress launched as Radeon HD 5800 series

ATI Cypress DirectX 11 GPUs will be launched as the Radeon HD 5800 series...

It seems Cypress XT is the Radeon HD 5870 model, while Cypress Pro will be the Radeon HD 5850. The launch is said to take place in September, with broad availability slated for October around the same time as the Windows 7 launch, which is October 22nd.

* 1GB GDDR5 memory
* ATI Eyefinity technology with support for up to three displays
* ATI Stream technology,
* Designed for DirectCompute 5.0 and OpenCL
* Accelerated Video Transcoding (AVT)
* Compliant with DirectX® 11 and earlier revisions
* Supports OpenGL 3.1
* ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU support for highly scalable performance6
* ATI Avivo™ HD video and display technology
* Dynamic power management with ATI PowerPlay™ technology
* DL-DVI, DL-DVI, DisplayPort, HDMI
* PCI Express® 2.0 support

Izvor:guru3d

-POP- 24.08.2009. 13:33

Samo dolari zanimaju?! Mislim da ću seriju 4 preskočiti.

JuiceBox 25.08.2009. 13:01

Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced
 
According to a fresh report by Donanim Haber, AMD's next performance graphics accelerator, the Radeonhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adT...lass_10x10.gif HD 5870, codenamed "Cypress" is expected to be aggressively priced, at US $299. At that price, it intends to be highly competitive against GeForce GTX 285 from NVIDIAhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adT...lass_10x10.gif. The secret-sauce behind the price could be the 40 nm fab process on which the GPU is being built, which allows upping transistor counts while maintaining significantly smaller die-sizes compared to 55 nm.

There is a great deal of uncertainty surrounding the specifications of the GPU, including what level of performance with existing application could it end up offering. Some sources, such as ChipHell, which are one of the first to leak pictures of components related to various Evergreen family products claim the Cypress GPU to have an almost 100% increase in stream processor counts compared to RV770, while others remain conservative expecting it to be around 50%. With this kind of a pricing, Cypress could trigger market-wide changes in GPU pricing, if it ends up with a good price/performance ratio at $299.

Cypress is expected to be launched on 22 September, close to two weeks after the company unveils the Evergreen family of DirectX 11 compliant GPUs on September 10. Market availability is expected in October. In related news from the same report, the enthusiast-grade accelerator that uses two of these GPUs, codenamed "Hemlock", is expected to be out in November.

Preuzeto sa : http://techpowerup.com/102342/Radeon...ed_Report.html

Ati freak 25.08.2009. 14:43

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Autor xulos (Post 1415499)
According to a fresh report by Donanim Haber, AMD's next performance graphics accelerator, the Radeonhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adT...lass_10x10.gif HD 5870, codenamed "Cypress" is expected to be aggressively priced, at US $299. At that price, it intends to be highly competitive against GeForce GTX 285 from NVIDIAhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adT...lass_10x10.gif. The secret-sauce behind the price could be the 40 nm fab process on which the GPU is being built, which allows upping transistor counts while maintaining significantly smaller die-sizes compared to 55 nm.

There is a great deal of uncertainty surrounding the specifications of the GPU, including what level of performance with existing application could it end up offering. Some sources, such as ChipHell, which are one of the first to leak pictures of components related to various Evergreen family products claim the Cypress GPU to have an almost 100% increase in stream processor counts compared to RV770, while others remain conservative expecting it to be around 50%. With this kind of a pricing, Cypress could trigger market-wide changes in GPU pricing, if it ends up with a good price/performance ratio at $299.

Cypress is expected to be launched on 22 September, close to two weeks after the company unveils the Evergreen family of DirectX 11 compliant GPUs on September 10. Market availability is expected in October. In related news from the same report, the enthusiast-grade accelerator that uses two of these GPUs, codenamed "Hemlock", is expected to be out in November.

Preuzeto sa : http://techpowerup.com/102342/Radeon...ed_Report.html

Ma to je sve velika halabuka a nakon svega bude velika banana....
Misli se natjecati s GTX 285... wow..... Za to im je trebalo skoro godina dana da nekaj naprave, i to je pitanje kakav bude to na kraju "proizvod"....

Ili opet puno vode, malo casa..... ( puno se toga veli, malo toga ostane istinito )

btw. Nemoj misliti da ni na koji nacin diskreditiram ovu temu...

No previse sam se ATI-evih "cuda" nagledao..... ;)

Al nek se decki trude :)

LP.

(Jesam ga namljeo ) :S

McG 25.08.2009. 14:46

Cijenom se misle pozicionirati u rang GTX 285 modela, a performansama su već (potvrđeno) bolji. Tak da si stvarno fino namljel.:)

Ati freak 25.08.2009. 14:51

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Autor McG (Post 1415620)
Cijenom se misle pozicionirati u rang GTX 285 modela, a performansama su već (potvrđeno) bolji. Tak da si stvarno fino namljel.:)

Potvrđeno? :)

Daj link :)

Da se i u to uvjerim :)

Ili bude sve ostalo na papiru :)

McG 25.08.2009. 14:57

Imaš toga po netu kolko te volja, ovaj put ja ne budem taj koji daje sve na srebrnom pladnju.
Em kartice stižu 22.09.'09., em su već poznate sve specifikacije, em čak (između ostalog) imaš i 3DMark rezultate.
Kartice su tak i tak već predstavljene na QuakeConu, a stvarno ne znam na koju foru bi ovo trebalo biti slabije do GTX 285.
  • 750-900 MHz core clock speed
  • 1GB of GDDR5 running at 1100 MHz (effectively 4400 MHz)
  • 1200-1600 shader processors (compared with 800 on the current HD 4870)
  • 32 ROPS (compared with 16 on the HD 4870)
  • 60-80 TMUs (compared with 40 on the HD 4870)
  • 2.1 TFlops of effective computational potential
  • over 300 mm² DIE (~256 mm² RV770/790)
  • DirectX 11 Support
Samo treba Google upogoniti.:)

D-I-A-B-L-O 25.08.2009. 15:10

Ovo prvi puta citam, kad dodjem doma moram prosurfat da vidim kaj to je.
Sve u svemu, raduje me izlazak nove serije zato sto bi po nekakvoj logiki trebao oznaciti pad HD48xx serije.
Veselim se cf-u sa u mojoj konfi :D

Ati freak 25.08.2009. 15:14

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Autor McG (Post 1415632)
Imaš toga po netu kolko te volja, ovaj put ja ne budem taj koji daje sve na srebrnom pladnju.
Em kartice stižu 22.09.'09., em su već poznate sve specifikacije, em čak (između ostalog) imaš i 3DMark rezultate.
Samo treba Google upogoniti.:)

Treba ;)

Nadao sam se da imas pri ruci linkove pa da turisticki razgledam :)

Ako je istina, ajde bar da nekaj naprave kak spada. :)

Našao neku sliku vidim da su fala Bogu malo cooler mjenjali :chears:

al bome i ima preko 30 cm duljine, pa to moram kucu kupiti za nju :D , a ne kuciste--

McG 25.08.2009. 15:17

Editiral sam post i ako se od QuakeCona po netu vuku te specifikacije, onda nije problem naći ni ostatak konkretnog materijala.
ATi je zayebal s R600 i HD 2900 serijom, nakon toga ni jedno lansiranje i predstavljanje im nije bilo "papirnato".
Teško da bude ovo, pogotovo kad već imaju spremne kartice.:)

Gilbert5 25.08.2009. 15:19

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Autor McG (Post 1415632)
  • 750-900 MHz core clock speed
  • 1GB of GDDR5 running at 1100 MHz (effectively 4400 MHz)
  • 1200-1600 shader processors (compared with 800 on the current HD 4870)
  • 32 ROPS (compared with 16 on the HD 4870)
  • 60-80 TMUs (compared with 40 on the HD 4870)
  • 2.1 TFlops of effective computational potential
  • over 300 mm² DIE (~256 mm² RV770/790)
  • DirectX 11 Support
Samo treba Google upogoniti.:)

Mislim da ce biti 1600 shadera, slična igra je igrana sa ovom generacijom kada su najavili 640 shadera, pa se na dan izlaska promjenila informacija sa specifikacijama na 800. :)

Navodno da ce sabirnica biti 512 bitna...nije loše. :)

bluefluid 25.08.2009. 16:28

bit ce boom perf-cijena kao i 48**, samo se ja opet pitam, dal i gdje ce mo mi moci iskoristiti svu tu snagu i moc il ce se vrtit folding home :kafa:

Mad_Duke 25.08.2009. 17:31

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Autor bluefluid (Post 1415703)
bit ce boom perf-cijena kao i 48**, samo se ja opet pitam, dal i gdje ce mo mi moci iskoristiti svu tu snagu i moc il ce se vrtit folding home :kafa:

Ma glavna da dodje, pa da jos srusi cijene danasnjih perjanica i svi sretni i zadovoljni. (i nevidija i aemde kupci).

A gdje ce se koristiti ta snaga. Meni pada na pamet Rage, a ako ID napravi isti ili bolji posao kao sa Doomom 3, onda ce to biti i Doom 4.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/te...software/23179
Ali to su sve stvari koje se ticu sljedece godine. Tako da, sto prije dodju, to ce prije pasti cijene :P

Jedino ono sto me zanima je neki naslov koji ce koristiti DX11. Bas da vidim to čudo, jer ce ID Tech 5 engine koji sam spomenuo ranije je OpenGL i DirectX 9-based.


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