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Manuel Calavera 09.11.2017. 09:13

Da, vjerojatno će kasnije (s godinama) ako se ova suradnja nastavi i ove integrirane unutar procesora (jer pretpostavljam da neće ići na "paket" sa svim proizvodima) biti radeonke

The Exiled 09.11.2017. 09:30

Raja je sad i službeno u Intelu, kao glavni arhitekt za diskretne high-end grafičke čipove. AMD dogovor može lako ispasti kao privremeno rješenje, dok Intel ne krene s proizvodnjom kartica.

Kaj se tiče Intelovih iGPU rješenja, ona bi i s novim procesorima trebala biti prisutna (za nezahtjevno korištenje: multimedija, surfanje, itd.), a AMD-ov dodatak bi se koristil za sve ostalo.

Gigi1 09.11.2017. 09:54

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3124076)
Raja je sad i službeno u Intelu, kao glavni arhitekt za diskretne high-end grafičke čipove. AMD dogovor može lako ispasti kao privremeno rješenje, dok Intel ne krene s proizvodnjom kartica.

zar intelu ne fale licence za grafiku? vjerojatno su to sad s amd-om dogovorili samo pitanje na koliko dugo

The Exiled 09.11.2017. 09:56

Izgleda da budu to u dogovoru s AMD-om sklepali, pošto ih je nVidia fino pozdravila.:)

ShebY 09.11.2017. 10:52

Pa da al zato to nemože biti privremeno.
Može intel uzeti još 5 arhitekta kad RTG ima većinu licenci, uz nvidiu naravno.

The Exiled 09.11.2017. 11:07

Prema ovom dogovoru, AMD neće Intelu licencirati korištenje svojih GPU rješenja, već će Intel direktno od AMD-a kupovati gotove čipove.

I to može biti privremeno, dok se dalje ne dogovore oko licenciranja potrebnih tehnologija za proizvodnju Intelovih high-end grafičkih kartica.
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The agreement between AMD and Intel is that Intel is buying chips from AMD, and AMD is providing a driver support package like they do with consoles.

tole_ 09.11.2017. 13:14

Zgodno.

https://i.imgur.com/gaEZoaf.jpg

Gigi1 09.11.2017. 13:47

to za intel nuc?

Dottore 09.11.2017. 14:51

Ili Intel Atom?

Sent from my SM-950U

Mladenxy 10.11.2017. 07:54

Konzola.

Disco 10.11.2017. 07:57

Ajde barem ce se moc posteno hladit jer nema heatspreader-a :)

EDIT: A i ako nije fejk, izgleda da ce ovo biti opaka mala zvjercica:

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-1791995-1-1.html

EDIT2: Netko je i gugl translejtao tekst s ovog foruma :D :D :

Intel announced the cooperation with AMD this morning and will work together to create an integrated processor in the future, which will be based on Intel's eighth-generation Core Duo processor and AMD's Vega GPU. It is reported that full blood version Vega GPU has 24 processing units, 1536 stream processors, the highest frequency of 1100MHz, using a 4GB HBM2 memory.



In this morning's 3DMark 11 ran exposure points, P points only 4000 points, which is obviously not normal, and later found that its operating frequency is only 300MHz. Now pcper has exposed a new integrated processor 3DMark 11 Performance run points, it seems that 1100MHz run full of blood.



According to Pcper's latest table data, Intel / AMD integrated processor 3DMark 11 P-mode graphics points can reach 14127 points, has exceeded 31% of the GTX 1050 Ti, while the GTX 1060 scores 16235 points, that is to say This core shows the performance of GTX 1060 87% of the performance. Running points in "Singing ashes" also reached 3300 points.

Of course, other foreign media said the Intel / AMD integrated processor has multiple versions of the core display, low-end performance and the GTX 950 is almost high-end fight Radeon R9 380.



Of course, due to the high cost of HBM2 memory costs, it is expected that high-end notebooks such as the Apple MacBook will be equipped with this seemingly very violent processor, and Intel's own NUC will also be available. Of course, this CPU is still in the engineering state of the sample, the future what performance is not easy to say.

Manuel Calavera 10.11.2017. 10:42

Jel se sjećate onih izvještaja iz prošle godine kako postoji masu 4gb hbm2 a nismo znali u što to sve može ići (a nisu sigurno bez veze naštancali)? Znači ide u ovo i vjerojatno u mainstream vege dgpu (vega 11?), eventualno ryzen APU (ako uopće budu stavljali hbm što visi dosta)

Gigi1 10.11.2017. 10:47

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Autor Manuel Calavera (Post 3124493)
Jel se sjećate onih izvještaja iz prošle godine kako postoji masu 4gb hbm2 a nismo znali u što to sve može ići (a nisu sigurno bez veze naštancali)? Znači ide u ovo i vjerojatno u mainstream vege dgpu (vega 11?), eventualno ryzen APU (ako uopće budu stavljali hbm što visi dosta)

bome bit ce da je tako.
u principu kad sad malo zbroje "rumori" iz prošlih god/god i pol dosta ih je bilo tocnih/preciznih.

prvih 35 min o intel/amd+raja


Manuel Calavera 15.11.2017. 21:53

Intel’s Z390 Motherboards Start Showing Up – Will Support Coffee Lake-S (Up To 8 Core) Processors, Arrival Due in 1H 2018

lobo64 16.11.2017. 23:28

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Autor tole_ (Post 3124148)

Ak me oko ne vara, napajanja ove ploče se nebi posramile ni odrasle x299 sestre.
Nije valjda da za hlađenje treba 2 kile Cu blok i chiller na kotačima...

shar 16.11.2017. 23:39

Uzmi u obzir da se radi o cpu, gpu i hbm vrm-u.

Polaris je efikasan i može radit na prilično niskom naponu ako se ne pretjeruje sa taktovima. Dodaš na sve hbm koji troši jako malo i 35W(?) proc i nemaš potrebe za ogromnim hlađenjem.

Manuel Calavera 17.11.2017. 00:44

Zar nije rečeno da je to vega

Eladio 17.11.2017. 02:16

Koliko sam čuo nije, nego Polaris , koji isto ima hbm kontroler rjesen..

Brijem, nije da AMD ne može staviti vrhu, nego idu ovako da malo vise izmuzu

Manuel Calavera 17.11.2017. 08:40

Intel announces it will use Vega for notebooks

zvonac 19.11.2017. 17:21

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/..._8350K/12.html

Jel ovaj i3 stvarno tak dobar ili?
Kolko gledam u gejmingu se dobro nosi sa jačom ekipom..

domina 19.11.2017. 17:36

Zašto ne, to je ko dosadašnji i5 na visokom taktu.
Mene više brine što u nižem segmentu nema proca sa HT-om. Znači da bi po potrebi mogli ubacit i3 sa 8 thredova.
Btw pentiumi nisu izašli još 8th gen?

Manuel Calavera 19.11.2017. 22:09

Nisam ih vidio

Inače samo će rebrandirati postojeće pentiume

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11922...o-pentium-gold

The Exiled 22.11.2017. 19:56

15W TDP mobile Intel Core i5-8250U (4C/8T) vs. 15W TDP mobile AMD Ryzen 5 2500U (4C/8T)
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Watt for watt, the Core i5-8250U thoroughly outclasses its Kaby Lake predecessor in every test we can throw at it. The i5-8250U delivers a whopping 59% mean performance improvement over its predecessor when I take all of my tests into account. Heavy multithreaded workloads, and especially heavy AVX workloads, will drive the Core i5-8250U to its base clock faster than you can say "SIMD," but even with its low 1.6-GHz base speed, Kaby Lake-R offers a major boost in performance over the i5-7200U in those tasks. By themselves, eighth-generation Core CPUs don't do much to move the integrated-graphics bar. If you want more graphics horsepower from an eighth-gen ultrabook, though, you can get one with a GeForce MX150 graphics chip and 2GB of dedicated GDDR5 RAM inside for not much more money than models without. If gaming performance matters, the Nvidia chip offers solid enough frame rates and frame times in some of today's most popular games, sometimes even at 1920x1080 with some eye candy on.

AMD Ryzen 5 2500U quad-core mobile processor we tested generally offered competitive performance to Intel's latest 8th Gen quad-core Kaby Lake-R offering in various, highly-refined and optimized machines like the Dell XPS 13 and the HP Spectre x360. Presumably, a Ryzen 7 2700U would look even better in a similar match-up, with a bit more top-end clock speed. Looking at Ryzen Mobile's graphics prowess, as we hoped, the platform offers significantly better performance with its Vega 8 IGP in comparison to Intel's latest UHD 620 IGP in the 8th Gen Core series line-up. In some tests it offered 60 - 70 percent faster frame rates and was able to make unplayable titles playable at 1080p. The early indicators for AMD's Ryzen Mobile platform are strong, both on the CPU and GPU side of the equation. With respect to battery life, however, the picture for us is still pretty murky and we're going to reserve judgement for now.
Izvor: The Tech Report i HotHardware

Dottore 23.11.2017. 22:45

Zanimljivo, s druge strane mobilni Ryzeni baš ne rasturaju u autonomiji.

Sent from my SM-950U

Glavas_ZG 27.11.2017. 12:33

Intel 8th generation and 9th generation CPU list leaked, includes Core i9 mobile processor

https://www.techspot.com/news/72034-...st-leaked.html

ShebY 14.12.2017. 16:00




Jako zakon stvari!

mamutarka 03.01.2018. 14:26

nije moj i5 još uvijek za baciti :D


Brko 15.01.2018. 11:45

Dečki, rasprava o Meltdownu i Spectreu prebačena u temu za to, pa da ostavimo ovu temu ipak za nadolazeće sockete i procesore od Intela.

http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=290321

Manuel Calavera 15.01.2018. 15:19

Intel Preps Their Own Discrete GPUs For Gen 12 and 13 Codenamed Arctic Sound and Jupiter Sound – Will Be Featured in Post-Cannonlake Chips Replacing AMD’s dGPU Solutions

Manuel Calavera 17.01.2018. 21:12

Possible Intel 10nm Cannonlake and Coffee Lake Six Core Mobility Processors Leaked – Cannonlake Parts With Dual Core CPU, Gen 10 Graphics On Board

vedranzeman 05.03.2018. 14:04

Uz nešto (softverskog) modanja Coffee Lake procesori idu na starije LGA1151 matične ploče:

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Modders Get "Coffee Lake" Chips to Work Stable on Intel 100/200-series Chipsets

One of the greatest complaints enthusiasts had with Intel's 8th generation Core "Coffee Lake" processors and their companion 300-series chipsets is their lack of compatibility with older 200-series and 100-series chipset motherboards, despite sharing an identical LGA1151 socket. Tinfoil hatters attributed this to Intel's synthetic platform-gating to ensure people buy new motherboards every two CPU generations; while Intel itself maintained that "Coffee Lake" chips have special electrical requirements that come with the increased core-counts, without explaining how that shouldn't exempt quad-core SKUs such as the Core i3-8100 and the i3-8350K from functioning on older platforms.

It turns out that "Coffee Lake" is pin-compatible with older LGA1151 motherboards based on 200-series and 100-series chipsets after all, as modders got some of these chips to work on the older platforms. Intel is using software to prevent Coffee Lake from working on older motherboards. This software comes in the form of the CPU's microcode, the iGPU's UEFI GOP driver, and certain Management Engine bootstraps on the side of the motherboard BIOS that lets it recognize the new chips. With the safe transplanting of these pieces of software, Overclock.net modders rootuser123, LittleHill, dsanke, elisw, Mov AX, and 0xDEAD; succeeding in not only getting the chips to work on older platforms, but also found ways to iron out several stability and compatibility issues. They've published a guide at this page.
https://www.techpowerup.com/242073/m...eries-chipsets

mamutarka 16.03.2018. 16:45

Intel has announced that it has released microcode updates to mitigate the Spectre & Meltdown vulnerabilities for all of its CPUs released in the last five years, and is redesigning its future processors to protect against them. Microsoft is releasing these Intel microcode updates for manual installation via the Microsoft Update Catalog.


to ima za skinut ovdje https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...px?q=KB4090007

dal to treba skidat ili netreba? netko skinuo i stavio? dal to možda automatski povuče preko win update? pod installed updates ga nemam

demetrius 16.03.2018. 19:28

ako se i je instaliro preko win updejta ko da je rješilo pola problema jer sam prije imo oba yes.

https://s17.postimg.org/bf8dicj4b/Sc...._16_19.26.jpg

mogu probat pa javim ako imam oba 2 odgovora no,jučer je bio neki update meni.

mamutarka 16.03.2018. 19:48

meni se nije prek win update, bar ja ne vidim u programs and features da je instaliran

The Exiled 29.03.2018. 20:08

Intel NUC8i7HVK (Hades Canyon) Review: AnandTech, PC Perspective i HotHardware
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The NUC8i7HVK is a unique product in the market. Never has any vendor managed to cram in this amount of graphics and computing prowess in such a form factor. Intel has managed to do it, and it is mainly due to the out-of-box thinking that led to the creation of the Kaby Lake-G (KBL-G) family of products. Without KBL-G's capabilities, this product would have simply not been possible without some kind of compromise. While Hades Canyon has its strengths, it does fall a bit short of perfection due to its disappointing performance in our evaluation of it as a 4K HTPC. The Vega GPU can't decode VP9 Profile 2 - so no YouTube HDR support - and more importantly it doesn't support the Protected Audio Video Path technology required for UHD Blu-ray playback. The latter unfortunately came as a bit of a surprise to even some at Intel, as the company was claiming as recently as CES 2018 that the Hades Canyon platform would support UHD Blu-ray playback.

Dottore 29.03.2018. 21:27

Nuc ima dobre preformanse, ali cijena bode oči

Eladio 29.03.2018. 22:14

Načelno iz ovog zakljucujem također i ako ikad budemo vidjeli predstavljanje grafe tipa vega 24 ili slično, da bi trebala imat performanse oko rx 570

The Exiled 29.03.2018. 22:49

Jedino ne kužim kak su uspjeli "sfušati" da svi video izlazi idu prek dGPU Vega čipa kojem fali podrška za dosta vizualnih slatkiša u odnosu na Intel iGPU.

Gigi1 29.03.2018. 23:18

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3179018)
Jedino ne kužim kak su uspjeli "sfušati" da svi video izlazi idu prek dGPU Vega čipa kojem fali podrška za dosta vizualnih slatkiša u odnosu na Intel iGPU.

to niti meni nije jasno :stoopid:

inace zgodan strojcek

Eladio 29.03.2018. 23:24

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Autor Gigi1 (Post 3179026)
to niti meni nije jasno :stoopid:

inace zgodan strojcek

nešto treba ostaviti i za nasljednika :D


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