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MadBoY

10.02.2010. 00:41

Prije se u biti moglo birati izmedju 3 kartice, a sad ih ima 300.
5970, 5870, 5850, 5770, 5750, 5670, 5650, 5570, 5450...
Pa se snadji ko, sta, gdje, koliko :D

Zvone2772

10.02.2010. 11:33

Evo danas najavljena još i 5550 :D
Jedina razlika od sestre s brojem xx70 je sporija memorija (GDDR2) i -80 SP-a (320)
LiNk

A i 5830 je "iza ugla".

Momir

10.02.2010. 20:22

Malo gledam na gigabyteovim stranicama graficke

I vidim da su 58xx i 57xx serija PCI-E 2.0 x16,
a 54xx, 55xx, 56xx i 59xx serija PCI-E 2.1 x16

Vidim da su brzine jedne i druge sabirnice iste, ali sigurno ima neka caka, pa ako se da kome pojasniti malo ili me uputit ako je vec bilo rijeci o tome.

Pretpostavljam da za mene, obicnog smrtnika, razlike nisu bitne, ali zanimaju me. :D

Jelc	10.02.2010. 20:49

Evo kaj veli 0.02 sec serčanja:)

Citiraj:

PCI Express 2.1

PCI Express 2.1 supports a large proportion of the management, support, and troubleshooting systems planned to be fully implemented in PCI Express 3.0. But, the speed is the same as PCI Express 2.0.

danc00

10.02.2010. 22:25

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Autor Jelc (Post 1566486)

Evo kaj veli 0.02 sec serčanja:)

A kaj će biti novog u PCIe 3.0. Kad već srčaš.

bluefluid

11.02.2010. 00:50

Custom ASUS Radeon5850 DirectCU and 5870 TOP

Citiraj:

Asus will soon release a customized version of the Radeon HD 5850 graphics card with the DirectCU cooler, this cooling solution promises 20 percent lower temperatures than the stock cooler, while cutting noise production by 35 percent as well. The DirectCU cooler utilizes two 8mm heatpipes that make direct contact with the GPU, you can expect this card by the end of the month.

Another new card is the Radeon HD 5870 TOP edition, this model will features slightly higher clockspeeds than the reference model. Availability is expected by early March 2010.

http://www.pohrani.com/f/2c/RG/1Y7KNzku/5850.jpg
http://www.pohrani.com/f/1N/vM/Dpzojbt/5870.jpg

Izvor:guru3d

Momir

11.02.2010. 05:12

Citiraj:

Autor Jelc (Post 1566486)

Evo kaj veli 0.02 sec serčanja:)

Dobro, taj dio sam i sam nasao :kafa:

Ocekivao sam neko drugacije pojasnjenje na naskem jesiku, al ako je to to onda nista, svejedno :fala: na trudu.

bluefluid

12.02.2010. 20:29

Radeon HD 5830 Specifications out

Citiraj:

We've already been saying more or less that you can expect a Radeon HD 5830 card soon. The card is supposed positioned in the 200~230 USD range making it widespread available and affordable for a lot of people. Personally I look forward to this product very much.

The Radeon HD 5830 performance should be inbetween the 5850 and the 5770, and as it seems it's base off the Cypress LE core. The card reportedly will come with 1280 shaders processors and a core speed of 750MHz for the GPU. Featured with 1GB of GDDR5 memory, clocked at 1000MHz, the difference between the 5830 and the 5850 shouldn't be that significant, in terms of performance. When you put the two side by side, the 5850 is featured with 1440 shaders and 72 texture units, while the GPU is set at 725MHz.

It is very likely that the PCB and cooler will be similar to the HD 5850 model.

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ASUS ROG 5870 Matrix 2GB Photo's

Citiraj:

Over at a Chinese website they obtained some cool photo's of the ASUS ROG 5870 Matrix, the card comes with a 2GB framebuffer. Apparantly it operates at 900 MHz on the core clock and memory at 4900 MHz. The card will come with voltage checkpoints to monitor the juice flowing through the card.

Apparantly it can cram 1.5v through it's pipes allowing a clock frequency of 1080 MHz.

http://www.pohrani.com/t/K/7g/2w9faQDp/5870matrix01.jpg http://www.pohrani.com/t/2G/8i/1kfwKpF/5870matrix02.jpg

Izvor: guru3d

bluefluid

13.02.2010. 16:16

Sapphire Readies HD 5850 Toxic Graphics Card

Citiraj:

Sapphire is making an addition to its Toxic series graphics card that feature non-reference design with out of the box higher clock speeds, based on the ATI Radeon HD 5850 GPU. The Toxic HD 5850. It features what appears to be a non-reference blue PCB by Sapphire, a non-reference cooler with a dash of racy blue graphics, and higher clock speeds. Its GPU is clocked at 765 MHz and memory at 1125 MHz (4500 MHz effective), against reference clock speeds of 725 MHz and 1000 (4000 eff.) MHz, respectively. The Radeon HD 5850 GPU is DirectX 11 compliant, has 1440 stream processors, and a 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface. There's 1 GB of memory on board. It is expected to be released on or before 15th Feb. Online store Overclockers UK has listed this card before its announcement at £269.99 including applicable tax, though we expect the price to come down after release.

http://www.pohrani.com/f/1W/sm/2aVvNz4i/57b.jpg http://www.pohrani.com/f/12/W4/4nxSkfjw/57c.jpg http://www.pohrani.com/f/2C/AW/2BJy1453/57d.jpg

McG	14.02.2010. 21:20

The RV870 Story: AMD Showing up to the Fight

Citiraj:

When I wrote The RV770 Story I was convinced that ATi had embraced a new, refocused approach to GPU design, only to learn that they nearly threw out all of the learnings with the RV870. The Northern Islands GPUs, due out later this year, were surely designed before anyone knew how RV870 would play out. Much less whether or not Fermi/GF100 would be this late.

The past three product generations have been executed extremely well. Regardless of whether you're an AMD, Intel or nVidia fan, you must give credit where it's due. The past couple of years have shown us a dramatic turn around from the graphics group at AMD. To go from the shakiness of the R500 and R600 GPUs to solidly executing on the RV670, 770 and 870 year after year is praiseworthy.

I almost wonder if AMD’s CPU team could learn from the graphics group's execution. I do hope that along with the ATi acquisition came the open mindedness to learn from one another.

Zanimljivo štivo, lišeno fanatizma kakav se non-stop viđa diljem ovog i sličnih foruma.
Čista tehnička strana priče koja bi se bez problema mogla primijeniti nakon predstavljanja svake CPU i GPU generacije.

timmy

15.02.2010. 10:33

Evo jedan zanimljiv link, ako nekome treba.
Voltmodovi za 5750, 5770, 5870; sve na jednom mjestu + sav potreban softver.

Skorn

17.02.2010. 16:15

pls erase this post

Matth€w

23.02.2010. 07:41

Hd 5830

Detaljnije specifikacije HD 5830, koja btw. izlazi ovaj tjedan.

http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=32829&catid=2

Blue_Fatal1ty

23.02.2010. 08:13

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Autor Matth€w (Post 1577752)

Detaljnije specifikacije HD 5830, koja btw. izlazi ovaj tjedan.

http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=32829&catid=2

više troši od 5850???? :stoopid:

coconut

23.02.2010. 09:09

Malo mi se čini prevelika na onoj slici. Još ima 2 venta na cooleru. Previše sumnjivo.

Matth€w

23.02.2010. 09:51

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Autor Blue_Fatal1ty (Post 1577762)

više troši od 5850???? :stoopid:

Ima dosta veći radni takt GPU-a, ali opet s druge strane ima dosta manje stream procesora, ROPsa i texture unitsa, tako da je i meni to ispalo malo čudno. Možda ne utječe na potrošnju. :fiju:

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Autor coconut (Post 1577791)

Malo mi se čini prevelika na onoj slici. Još ima 2 venta na cooleru. Previše sumnjivo.

Da, meni je isto sumnjiva slika i kutija. Previše Ultra Durable fora na kutiji od jedne grafičke kartica...? Hm :D

http://www.techpowerup.com/115908/AT...s_Surface.html

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ati-rade...aked/8475.html

Mad_Duke

23.02.2010. 13:02

Pa sve četri su "jedna te ista kartica.". Sad, kako su izašle iz tvornice, tako su "clockane". Za jedne lošije modele mi je skroz logično da oderu recimo jaču frekvu, a da disable-aju više jedinice.

Matth€w

23.02.2010. 13:56

Evo još slikica ostalih brandova

http://www.techpowerup.com/115921/AT...elerators.html

Momir

23.02.2010. 14:08

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Autor Matth€w (Post 1578025)

Evo još slikica ostalih brandova

http://www.techpowerup.com/115921/AT...elerators.html

na zadnjoj slikici (slajdu) u zadnjem redu piše "6*2560*1600" kako spojiti 6 monitora ili necega?
nije li 3 maximum, osim one cudne zvjerke koju nisam vidio da se igdje prodaje (ona sa 6 mini DP portova i 2GB rama...) :D

Matth€w

24.02.2010. 12:38

Malo informacija o rezultatima HD 5830

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ati-rade...arks/8483.html

MAGARAC

25.02.2010. 12:03

ATI Radeon HD 5830

Od danas HD 5830 službeno u prodaji

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22569

coconut

25.02.2010. 12:34

Nažalost, kao i većina 5xxx serije, precijenjena je. Razlika u performansama između slabije 5770 i nje nije velika koliko razlika u cijeni. Po meni, fail.

bluefluid

25.02.2010. 12:55

Radeon HD 5830 review

Citiraj:

Overall the performance is still very nice though, the Radeon positions itself in-between the Radeon HD 5770 and Radeon HD 5850, but when we tally our results up, the Radeon HD 5830 is often closer to the 5770 than it is to the Radeon HD 5850.

Looking up some prices here in the Netherlands and in our USA Pricegrabber database tells us the following, and you guys can already feel where this conclusion is heading, if we take the 1024MB models then:

* Radeon HD 5770 1024MB can be found for roughly 140 EUR / 169 USD.
* Radeon HD 5850 1024MB can can be found for roughly 260 EUR / 319 USD.

And here's my dilemma, the Radeon HD 5830 will cost cost you give or take 230 EUR / 259 USD at launch.

Now if you compare the 5830 to the 5770 then you are looking at ten, maybe fifteen percent performance difference tops, and as such I find it a tad hard to recommend the Radeon HD 5830. Personally I'd say save yourself the money and go with the excellent HD 5770, that or drop a few tenners more and go for the sweet Radeon HD 5850, which makes a little more sense. The 5830 however comes with 256-bit memory whereas the 5770 does its magic on a 128-bit bus.

Now we like the Radeon HD 5830, it really is a fun product, but we do feel that its price positioning somehow doesn't match up properly. This product should be hovering at a sub 200 EUR / 239 USD level IMHO -- well, wishful thinking perhaps?

Izvor: guru3d

MAGARAC

25.02.2010. 13:01

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Autor coconut (Post 1579866)

Nažalost, kao i većina 5xxx serije, precijenjena je. Razlika u performansama između slabije 5770 i nje nije velika koliko razlika u cijeni. Po meni, fail.

Grafa je bliža 5770 nego 5850 po performansama a cijena je trenutno bliža 5850. Mislim da če jako brzo i cijena pasti i da če grafa bit dobra kupovina.
Šteta kaj su baš toliko skresali 5850, 16 ROPova i 2 sahder clustera. Zbog toga je grafa na 800mhz,zbog čega više troši i više se grije od 5850. Sapphireova nema mogučnost softverske regulacije voltaže.

evo još jedan reveiw: http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5830-review/1

Mad_Duke

25.02.2010. 15:26

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Autor coconut (Post 1579866)

Nažalost, kao i većina 5xxx serije, precijenjena je. Razlika u performansama između slabije 5770 i nje nije velika koliko razlika u cijeni. Po meni, fail.

S obzirom koliko je ljudi tu kod nas već prešlo na 5xxx seriju. Ne bi se složio.

Neka samo pumpaju različite modele.

Doink the Clown

25.02.2010. 17:05

Eto još jedan review HD5830 s Tomičinog hardvera :)
ATI Radeon HD 5830: Bridging The 5700- And 5800- Price Gap

thedream

25.02.2010. 17:54

Klasična zamjena za 4890.Nuf said. Mogla bi biti dobra kupnja ekipi koja prelazi sa serije 2 i 3,a 5770 im je preslaba,uvjetno rečeno.

zackoj

25.02.2010. 17:56

Sve ovisi koja ce cijena bit u nas. Sumnjam da ce biti ispod 1500kn

DraŽ	25.02.2010. 22:29

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Autor MAGARAC (Post 1579881)

Grafa je bliža 5770 nego 5850 po performansama a cijena je trenutno bliža 5850. Mislim da če jako brzo i cijena pasti i da če grafa bit dobra kupovina.
Šteta kaj su baš toliko skresali 5850, 16 ROPova i 2 sahder clustera. Zbog toga je grafa na 800mhz,zbog čega više troši i više se grije od 5850. Sapphireova nema mogučnost softverske regulacije voltaže.Evo još jedan reveiw: http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-5830-review/1

Pa hd5850 ima jednako rop-ova kao i hd5870 tj. 32, a hd5830 te 5750/70 imaju po 16. 5850 uopće nije jako skresana(160 sp-a,8 tmu-a i manji clockovi), ali hd5830 je stvarno previše. Mogla je biti hit,ali su je uvalili kao i hd4730 isti vrag.

MAGARAC

25.02.2010. 23:20

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Autor DraŽ (Post 1580413)

ma htio sam napisati kakva je 5830 u odnosu na 5850,odnosno koliko je skresana 5850 da bi se dobila 5830,16Rops i 2 shader clustera manje.
inače je 5850 sresana samo za 1 shader cluster u odnosu na 5870 i 3fazna regulacija . Mogli su slobodno ostavit 1 cluster spa više na grafi i postavit niže klokove(5830)

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