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Sn4k3 12.08.2009. 02:54

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Autor Dizel (Post 1404284)
Za mene je taj MSI uvijek bila kirvajska firma za sabane koji padaju na farbice i reklamice sa bombarderima i raketlinima na kutijama :)


:D mozda i jesu malo kicave kutije, ali bez obzira MSI je zna izbaciti kvalitetne a cijenom pristupacne ploce.. Za bombardere i circu-pipe nemam sto reci :beer:

Ovaj Lucid Hydra chip stvarno izgleda zanimljivo.. Sam koncept pruza krajnjim korisnicima vise slobode u odabiru komponenti (citaj grafulja)..

Edit: Btw, svidja mi se ovaj Core i7-870 :D

McG 17.08.2009. 16:14

nVidia nForce MCP99 za LGA-1156 procesore
 
Fresh reports suggest that nVidia indeed has a chipset product lineup planned for Q1 2010, that supports socket LGA-1156 processors, codenamed MCP99. In addition to this, nVidia will also serve up two new LGA-775 chipsets, codenamed MCP85 and MCP89. What's common to all these chipsets is that they embed an integrated graphics processor (IGP). Some of these chipsets feature a 64-bit wide memory channel dedicated to the IGP's memory needs, apart from the 128-bit wide (dual-channel) system memory controller, on the LGA-775 platform. The dedicated memory channel allows the IGP to match entry-level graphics cards in terms of performance, without eating into the system memory. We predict this will be implemented in the same way AMD 780G, 785G and 790GX does, with dedicated memory chips present onboard. The LGA-775 compatible ones will further feature dual-channel DDR3-1333 standard supportive memory controllers for system memory. The MGPU will be named inside the GeForce 200M series.

Izvor: techPowerUp

bluefluid 19.08.2009. 00:30

ASRock P55 Deluxe Bundles SATA III Addon-Card

http://www.pohrani.com/f/3p/gt/35LNB6Tr/95b.jpg

'upcoming P55 Deluxe advertises SATA III support, and packs a tiny, half-height card that uses PCI-Express (2.0?) x1 interface. At the heart of it is a Marvell 88SE9123 SATA III controller'

Izvor:techpowerup;OCWorkbench




ASUS Prepares First LGA-1156 Workstation Motherboard

http://www.pohrani.com/f/2o/X4/2l0L3pgY/p7p55.jpg

'The ASUS P7P55 WS SuperComputer builds on the features of its socket LGA-1366 cousins, by offering as many as five PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots, a massive 16+3 phase CPU VRM, support for DDR3-2133 by overclocking, and the latest multi-GPU standards support.'

Izvor: techpowerup;XFastest

JuiceBox 19.08.2009. 01:43

Isprika sto nisam u toku al jel nije trebalo bit da su samo i5 1156 socket.Koliko vidim ovaj i7-860 je i7 a scoket 1156 ? kak to?
jel moze netko objasnit su klasifikaciju ?

McG 19.08.2009. 02:46

Pa imaš sve objašnjeno na prethodnim stranicama i linkovima koji su postani. Osim toga i diljem neta je stvarno brdo meterijala o Intelovoj novoj shemi:) imenovanja.

bluefluid 19.08.2009. 10:48

http://www.pohrani.com/t/9/XF/sfIkd52/tab.jpg

:chears:

JuiceBox 19.08.2009. 15:18

thx skuzio sam sad. Al su sjeb*** sto su ova dva i7 modela ubacili na 1156 socket pa je malo zbunjujuce.

McG 19.08.2009. 22:22

Thorough Review of Intel Core i5-750:)

aski 19.08.2009. 23:08

Socket 1156 heatsinks have taken the middle ground with a spacing of 75mm, while Socket 1366 heatsinks use a 80×80mm hole spacing, and 775 mounting is 72mm apart. :D


Ajde nek vise i to cudo krene :)

hammer_of_thor 19.08.2009. 23:35

O bože, pa ja ne vjerujem.

Heatsinkovi sa i7-ice neće moći bez dodatnih mounting kitova na i5? :care:

Fail


Foxconn je na Bloodrageu napravio odličan posao, ima rupe i za 775 i za i7
Ploča je srednja žalost ali ajde bar nešto :D

JuiceBox 20.08.2009. 00:35

Jos jedno glupo pitanje al me zanima : zasto novi nehalemi imaju "pinove" i s druge strane procesore , ove uz rub ? btw ovaj i5 je super stvarcica samo da ne bude preskup

McG 20.08.2009. 01:19

32nm Clarkdale i Havendale Preview - prijevod je koma, ali sve se skuži.:)

McG 20.08.2009. 15:07

Asus Maximus III Gene LGA-1156 ploča
 
The newest entry into ASUS' already huge lineup of socket LGA-1156 motherboards based on the Intel P55 chipset, is the new Republic of Gamers Maximus III Gene. Unlike the Maximus III Formula, this one is based on the micro-ATX form-factor, with four expansion slots in all, to spare. The LGA-1156 socket is powered by a high-grade 10-phase digital PWM circuit. It is wired to four DDR3 DIMM slots for dual-channel memory. With two PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots (electically dual x8 when both populated) wired to the CPU, the board utilizes the feature-set of the P55 PCH completely. An open-ended PCI-E x4 is located between the two x16 slots, and a legacy PCI slot below. Connectivity includes gigabit Ethernet, Firewire, USB, eSATA, and 8-channel ASUS SupremeFX X-Fi, implemented in the same way as on Rampage II Gene and Maximus II Gene. The ASUS Maximus III Gene motherboard is expected to start selling by the end of this month, its pricing is yet to be known.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/K/mT/3cavfO...siiigene00.jpg
Izvor: techPowerUp

McG 21.08.2009. 14:57

Asus TUF Series Sabertooth i55
 
Here's our Asus LGA-1156, Intel P55 motherboard for the day: TUF Series Sabertooth i55. As a short history lesson, Asus' TUF series motherboards was touted as a parallel to its Republic of Gamers (ROG) series, and was unveiled back in March as the "Marine cool" design, although no products made it to the market. The selling points of TUF series is unparalleled durability and next-generation motherboard components, including "breakthrough innovations in materials--ceramic and metal--for exceptional Cooling". Here's hoping this one does. The Sabertooth i55 comes across as fairly mid-range within the P55 motherboard lineup, as far as features go, but banks heavily on design innovations.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/38/13X/KCbFt4r/asus.jpg
For starters, the CPU is powered by a 12+2 phase VRM, while the four DDR3 DIMM slots rely on a 2-phase VRM. For the greater part of its features, the Intel P55 chipset pitches in. Additional storage controllers provide extra SATA ports, supporting Asus DriveXpert technology. Expansion slots include two PCI-E 2.0 x16 (arrange as x8, x8 in SLi and CrossFireX), two PCI-E x1, and two PCI. Here's where the unique features start: metal heatsinks with ceramic coating that boosts surface area by 50% for better heat dissipation. On the components front, it features durable "TUF-branded" MOSFETs, and capacitors. The DDR3 DIMM slots lack retention clips on one end, a feature implemented by Asus with several recent motherboards, that makes sure the clips don't interfere with installed graphics cards. Although there's adequate clearance on this board, it is utilised by providing a placeholder for a fan dedicated to memory cooling. In a short presentation, Asus describes its innovations. There's no word on its availability and pricing.

Izvor: techPowerUp

Dizel 21.08.2009. 15:17

Ajme kako stancaju modele ne bi li nas nabrijali na superarhitekturu... :D

Keramika, metal, jos samo fali da je oblozena kamenom vunom iz Rockwoola ne bi li se nasjelo da je to nesto najfinije i rucni rad :)

Pantera-N 21.08.2009. 16:58

mene cijena zanima.. a ne keramika :)

Sn4k3 21.08.2009. 17:14

Normalno cijena igra veliku ulogu, ali neka tih "keramika" i ostalih inovacija..

McG 21.08.2009. 22:29

How Much Does it Cost to Build a P55 Motherboard?
 
The pressure is on the motherboard makers to deliver affordable P55 solutions. Without affordable motherboards, Lynnfield will fail - so Intel and end users are both expecting a healthy supply of ~$100 motherboards. As I’m about to show you, doing so is quite difficult. The socket itself costs a couple of dollars, but even that is significantly more than LGA-775. The bulk of the 1156 socket isn’t the cost of the device, but rather the licensing fee that has to be paid to Intel for each socket. I’ve heard numbers approaching $7 per socket, per board once you include the licensing fees. As volumes go up, the price per socket will go down, but for smaller manufacturers this is a tough pill to swallow. It’s far easier to build an expensive motherboard than it is to build a cheaper one.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/2q/KS/j4tNaS9/costs.jpg
If you start at $40 for the motherboard, you’ll need to add another $10 for a 6-layer PCB. A 6-layer PCB is necessary if you want to run SLi at this point, otherwise you can get by with a cheaper $5 4-layer PCB. Mentioning SLi also requires validation and support from nVidia. That’s $30 up front plus an average of $5 per motherboard. P55 motherboards will have a range of 4 to 24-phase power delivery circuitry. Each phase costs about $2 in components although the high end motherboards with high quality MOSFETs/chokes/capacitors will reach $3 per phase.

The power connectors, switches, LEDs, I/O back panel and other components on the motherboard cost anywhere between $8 and $15 depending on the type of motherboard. What about those fancy copper heatpipes and elaborate heatsinks? They start at $6 and go as high as $25 for the really high end motherboards. While we'll definitely see P55 motherboards hit the $100 price point, it's worth realizing how difficult that is to do. As P55 matures, these costs will fall (particularly the chipset) but initially it's going to be a tough race to the bottom.

Izvor: AnandTech

Pantera-N 21.08.2009. 23:27

kad uopče možemo očekivati P55 ploče i i5? Tenutno sam u postupku nabavljanja quada, pa me zanima jel mi se isplati čekat...ako cijena bude tu negdje

McG 21.08.2009. 23:36

Sljedeći mjesec stižu nove ploče i procesori.:)

Pantera-N 21.08.2009. 23:53

Possible Core i3, i5, i7 Prices Leaked

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Cor...ices,8448.html

al samo 4MB cache za i5?

McG 22.08.2009. 00:12

Ma Tom's je koma ko i obično. Quad-core Core i5 procesori imaju 8MB L3 cahea, a dual-core Core i3 i i5 imaju 4MB ili 3MB u slučaju novog Pentium G6950 modela.

Pantera-N 22.08.2009. 13:55

piše po netu da bude quad i5 oko $200, znači kod nas minimum 1500+ kn plus matična koja neče biti ispod 1000kn u početku predstavljanja. Ipak je novi socket. Nekako mi je neisplativo to. Mislim da ču ja sad na Q9400 :D

jedino pozitivno da budu sad cijene c2d i postoječih quada pale....nadam se...

McG 22.08.2009. 15:25

Neisplativost ovisi od čoveka do čoveka i o namjeni. Da kupujem novo, tj. da prelazim s ovog kaj sad imam na nekaj novo, kupil bi LGA-1156 mašinu prije nego LGA-1366 ili LGA-775. Em LGA-1156 podržava puno veći asortiman procesora nego LGA-1366, em performanse nisu tolko lošije u odnosu na punokrvne Nehalem modele, em se ovi noviji ipak malo manje griju i troše.:) Sve u svemu, LGA-1156 bude na ovaj ili onaj način našel svoje kupce.

Pantera-N 22.08.2009. 15:40

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Autor McG (Post 1413257)
Sve u svemu, LGA-1156 bude na ovaj ili onaj način našel svoje kupce.


pa niko nije rekao kontra, naravno da s vremenom bude prevladao LGA1156, isto kako je prije nekoliko godina prevladao 775. Tjek evolucije :)

ja sam samo komentirao da kako u početku, kao i uvijek, bude 1156 (i CPU i mbo) bude neisplativ, tj preskup. Trebat če dva do tri mjeseca da se sabiliziraju cijene i dok proizvođači izbace jeftinije verzije P55 čipseta (ili nekog drugog).

McG 22.08.2009. 15:45

No i ja sam se samo nadovezal na tvoj komentar neisplativosti, jer se to (za neisplativost) zna otkad su prvi put objavljene cijene novih ploča i procesora. Zato velim da sva ta neisplativost ovisi od čoveka do čoveka. Nekom je neisplativo, a neko jedva čeka da npr. Q6600 ili kaj slično zamijeni za novi Core i5-750.:) Bez obzira na neisplativnost, ne bude ni prvi ni zadnji put da se novi (i relativno skupi) procesori i ploče pokupuju čim stignu u dućane.
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Autor Pantera-N (Post 1413192)
Mislim da ću ja sad na Q9400 :D

Kaj ne bi ti bila bolja opcija da prodaš 5000+ X2 i kupiš Phenom II 810 ili novi Athlon II 620 (ili neki drugi iz 600 serije)?:)

De5tr0yer 22.08.2009. 15:50

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Autor McG (Post 1413265)
No i ja sam se samo nadovezal na tvoj komentar neisplativosti, jer se to (za neisplativost) zna otkad su prvi put objavljene cijene novih ploča i procesora. Zato velim da sva ta neisplativost ovisi od čoveka do čoveka. Nekom je neisplativo, a neko jedva čeka da npr. Q6600 ili kaj slično zamijeni za novi Core i5-750.:) Bez obzira na neisplativnost, ne bude ni prvi ni zadnji put da se novi (i relativno skupi) procesori i ploče pokupuju čim stignu u dućane.

Evo npr, meni ne pada napamet baš da zbog nekih 20% performasni prelazim na i5/7 derivate, nema mi smisla...

Kad sam kupovo procesor taman sam si reko da je to kao što su mnogi na ovom forumu spominjali zalog za budućnost, a sumnjam da je na 3.6GHz slabiji od i5 derivata na 2.6 npr... I ako je, neka je, ja ću imat quad i dalje :)

McG 22.08.2009. 15:54

Nisam ni rekel da ti ili neko drugi treba preći s C2Q na Core i5, tj. LGA-1156, ali kad je stigel Core i7 bilo je na ovom podforumu itekak ljudi koji su prešli s brutalnih C2Q mašina na novi Nehalem.
Isti slučaj bude i u ovoj ili onoj mjeri s LGA-1156.:) Odvrti si pokoju stariju temu, da vidiš s kakvih se sve konfiguracija prelazilo na Nehalem.

De5tr0yer 22.08.2009. 15:59

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Autor McG (Post 1413272)
Nisam ni rekel da ti ili neko drugi treba preći s C2Q na Core i5, tj. LGA-1156, ali kad je stigel Core i7 bilo je na ovom podforumu itekak ljudi koji su prešli s brutalnih C2Q mašina na novi Nehalem.
Isti slučaj bude i u ovoj ili onoj mjeri s LGA-1156.:) Odvrti si pokoju stariju temu, da vidiš s kakvih se sve konfiguracija prelazilo na Nehalem.

Ma to mi nikad neće bit jasno, taman da i zarađujem bijesne novce u ovo recesijsko vrijeme, radije bih si novce ostavio na računu nego mijenjao nešto što je odlično za nešto hiper dobro... Al oke, tak nekome nije isto jasno zašto imam vodeno hlađenje i zašto stalno rastavim komp. Iz gušta... i ne može mi nitko pomoć, može samo koja osoba ženskog spola bit ljubomorna :D

Pantera-N 22.08.2009. 16:21

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Autor McG (Post 1413265)
Kaj ne bi ti bila bolja opcija da prodaš 5000+ X2 i kupiš Phenom II 810 ili novi Athlon II 620 (ili neki drugi iz 600 serije)?:)

pa...ne!!! :D

Nisam baš previše zadovoljan sa ovim AMD-om, a pošto mislim tako i onako kupovat novu ploču, bolje da odmah prelazim na quada. To što je 775 na zalasku, ne muči me to. Nemam namjeru mjenjat nešto godinu / dvije kad kupim, a onda budu pak toplu vodu izmišljali.


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