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SRV 02.08.2009. 11:16

E to je vec procesor zbog kojeg bi "imalo" smisla ic na i7. :)

Jerry 08.08.2009. 11:19

Pentium E6500K
 
http://www.techpowerup.com/101136/In...um_E6500K.html

90$ i otkljucan mnozitelj!
Konkurencija stvarno cuda radi. :D
Istina da bi bilo bolje daje E8xxx serija ali no i ovo nije lose.

Mali test s guru3d:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=300731

4.2GHz na defoult voltazi s air hadjenjem.
4.5GHz s +0.2V.

Sve u svemu lijep cpu iako svi ovi serije E5xxx i E6xxx imaju vec visoke mnozitelje.

Gilbert5 08.08.2009. 11:36

Citiraj:

Autor Jerry (Post 1401785)
http://www.techpowerup.com/101136/In...um_E6500K.html

90$ i otkljucan mnozitelj!
Konkurencija stvarno cuda radi. :D
Istina da bi bilo bolje daje E8xxx serija ali no i ovo nije lose.

Mali test s guru3d:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=300731

4.2GHz na defoult voltazi s air hadjenjem.
4.5GHz s +0.2V.

Sve u svemu lijep cpu iako svi ovi serije E5xxx i E6xxx imaju vec visoke mnozitelje.


Auuu, odlična vijest. :)

Sada mi je drago što nisam prodao pot. :D ... Mislim da bum uzel ovoga, da vidim kako diše. :D

A jeste, puno bi bilo zanimljivije da su nekom E8*00 otključali multi, ili nedajbože kakvom kvadu. :D

Bara-st 08.08.2009. 18:41

Jel se može možda predpostavit kakav će bit Core i7 860 u odnosu na Core i7 920?

McG 08.08.2009. 23:10

Core i7-800 serija bude bolja ili (u najgorem slučaju) podjednaka s Core i7-920 i to bez pretpostavljanja:).
Imaš testova po netu kolko te volja pa provjeri. Evo samo jedan od mnogobrojnih.

Bara-st 09.08.2009. 11:17

Citiraj:

Autor McG (Post 1402158)
Core i7-800 serija bude bolja ili (u najgorem slučaju) podjednaka s Core i7-920 i to bez pretpostavljanja:).
Imaš testova po netu kolko te volja pa provjeri. Evo samo jedan od mnogobrojnih.

Baš si naša test sa kolko vidim malo clockanim 870, a on i bez toga triba bit jednak Core i7 940 i 950 kako cijenom tako i performansama. U svakom slučaju hvala na linku. Samo se nadam da će ploče za LGA 1156 biti jeftinije od onih za LGA 1366.

McG 09.08.2009. 14:10

Uzalud se nadaš jer je već potvrđeno od strane Intela da budu cijene novih LGA1156 ploča u rangu sadašnjih LGA1366. Znači oko 200 dolara za neke solidne modele i više za bolje i opremljenije modele.

JuiceBox 09.08.2009. 14:29

Pa onda bolje kupit 1366 plocu i usparat si mal vise love za jaci i7.

McG 09.08.2009. 14:37

Samo je problem kaj budu malo jači LGA1366 Core i7 procesori ko 960 koštali isto ko i novi Core i7-870, a LGA1156 ploče ipak podržavaju nadolazeće dvojezgrene (Core i3) i četverojezgrene (core i5) 32nm Clarkdale procesore. Dok LGA1366 ploče podržavaju nove i užasno skupe (debelo iznad 1.000$) šesterojezgrene Core i9 procesore. Kak god okreneš LGA1366 platforma nije bez razloga vrh Intelove ponude, pa je samim tim i malo skuplja po pitanju nadogradnje:)

Bara_st 09.08.2009. 21:17

Kolko je meni poznato najslabiji Core i7 LGA1366 procesor na tržištu onaj 920 je jači od bilo kojeg Phenom II ili Core 2 procesora tako i da je on već jako brz. Ako se ne varam Core i7 920 je jači od Core i7 870 ali uz uvjet da se koristi DDR3 na 1333MHz, a na 1600Mhz ta razlika još više raste u korist 920-ke.

Sada me zanima kolko je bitan QPI(ovo LGA 1156 procesori nemaju) i trokanalni rad DDR-a?

McG 09.08.2009. 21:26

Ne znam kak si zaključil da je Core i7-920 bolji i jači od Core i7-870, kad su na svim mogućim testiranjima na koja sam naišel, ta dva procesora (ugrubo rečeno) podjednaka.
Sve u svemu Core i7-870 bez QPI i triple-channel podrške uspijeva bez problema parirati Core i7-920 procesoru.:) U biti evo, pa provjeri sam za sebe.

Ili još konkretnije i sa slabijim Lynnfield modelima - The Lynnfield Preview: Rumblings of Revenge.

Bara_st 09.08.2009. 21:57

Ono šta sam ja naša je da brzina LGA1366 jako ovisi o brtini DDR3 memorije dok ona kod LGA1156 procesora baš i nije bitna. To je sve šta imam za reć.

antrax 09.08.2009. 22:22

zapravo s1366 procesori manje pate od brzine memorije posto imaju jedan kanal vise za baratanje, tj efektivno 50% veci bandwidth od s1156 procesora. Kako ce se tocno ponasat novi procesori i jel im toliko rezanje bandwidtha bitno utjece na performanse cemo vidjet kad se digne nda s njih, ali ja ne vjerujem da ce se ista bitno promjenit. Drugim rijecima ako je 9x0 zavisan o brzini memorije, 8x0 ce trebati jos vise i brze memorije, no to nije bas tako.

sto se tice osjetnog povecanja performansi kad se koristi turbo skupa i brza memorija, jednako je kao i ranije, on ne postoji, evo ti i test s anandtecha koji jasno prikazuje u raznoraznim uvjetima razliku u brzini memorije i ukupnih performansi te pokazuje da je razlika izmedu 1333 i 1866 ddr3 memorije dosta mala, pogotovo kad uzmemo u obzir da valjda svi keksi na trzistu mogu na 1600 radit bez vecih problema i/li napona

Halos 09.08.2009. 23:38

Citiraj:

Autor Gilbert5 (Post 1401794)
Auuu, odlična vijest. :)

A jeste, puno bi bilo zanimljivije da su nekom E8*00 otključali multi, ili nedajbože kakvom kvadu. :D

Pa moraju dečki malo raspodijelit, da dulje muzu pare...:D

bluefluid 10.08.2009. 11:59

ASUS P7P55D Deluxe
byGuru3d

http://www.pohrani.com/f/a/oF/32CqbdPl/1111111.jpg

'ASUS makes use of an astounding 16-phase power system. The capacitors to the left I find to be positioned rather close to the socket. This might hinder the extreme cooling solutions out there. We spot solid capacitors and ferrite core chokes, that's nice.'

'...two PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, two PCI slots, and three PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (x16/x4 or x8/x8/x4). The board is SLI and Crossfire compatible but as you can see the PCIe lanes divide up towards two x8...'

McG 12.08.2009. 01:20

MSI 'Big Bang' P55 ploča s Lucid Hydra tehnologijom
 
This prototype motherboard by MSI packs a LucidLogix Hydra technology, which clearly on paper, is the next big thing as far as multi-GPU systems go. MSI P55 Big Bang looks similar to the P55-GD80, except for that under the top chipset heatsink (which, by the way, is purely cosmetic on the GD80), is a Lucid Hydra chip. The chip connects to all three (or four) PCI-Express x16 slots (lane configuration not known), and allows Lucid's multi-GPU technology that lets you make practically any combination of graphics cards (for example, pair a Radeon HD 4890 with a GeForce GTX 285), for performance scaling.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/1n/Zq/3bBTFt6G/73a.jpg http://www.pohrani.com/t/20/7S/EiqY53k/73b.jpg http://www.pohrani.com/t/g/Tn/1ImqMWvZ/73c.jpg
The member cards needn't have parity on their performance, as the Hydra chip does all the load-balancing by itself. Products based on Hydra are slowly, but surely showing up in small numbers for now, including enterprise-grade rack-mount graphics rendering boxes like this one, conceived a long time ago. A lot of details are yet to emerge, especially around if there are more motherboard manufacturers eying Hydra, about when a Hydra-based product actually makes it to shelves, and more importantly, when does MSI plan to sell this.

Izvor: techPowerUp

hammer_of_thor 12.08.2009. 01:28

Citiraj:

Autor McG (Post 1404265)
This prototype motherboard by MSI packs a LucidLogix Hydra technology, which clearly on paper, is the next big thing as far as multi-GPU systems go. MSI P55 Big Bang looks similar to the P55-GD80, except for that under the top chipset heatsink (which, by the way, is purely cosmetic on the GD80), is a Lucid Hydra chip. The chip connects to all three (or four) PCI-Express x16 slots (lane configuration not known), and allows Lucid's multi-GPU technology that lets you make practically any combination of graphics cards (for example, pair a Radeon HD 4890 with a GeForce GTX 285), for performance scaling.

:eek:

Nevjerovatno... ako je istinito...

McG 12.08.2009. 01:30

Je, bilo je već prije riječi o tome i ako je čudo implementirano na ploču, teško da su lagali ili pretjerivali.:)
Samo da još procure i neki konkretni testovi, pa da se vidi kak to diše.:D

Dizel 12.08.2009. 02:08

Jos se valjam po podu od smijeha kad se sjetim njihovih debilnih OC cipova ili Cirku-pajpa :D

Za mene je taj MSI uvijek bila kirvajska firma za sabane koji padaju na farbice i reklamice sa bombarderima i raketlinima na kutijama :)

McG 12.08.2009. 02:42

Ma nije ni MSI tu tolko bitan, kolko sama tehnologija. MSI je samo prvi koji je odlučil staviti Hybrid-Lucid u pogon.:) Valjda budu i ostali slijedili, ako se pokaže da sam koncept ima smisla.

Sn4k3 12.08.2009. 02:54

Citiraj:

Autor Dizel (Post 1404284)
Za mene je taj MSI uvijek bila kirvajska firma za sabane koji padaju na farbice i reklamice sa bombarderima i raketlinima na kutijama :)


:D mozda i jesu malo kicave kutije, ali bez obzira MSI je zna izbaciti kvalitetne a cijenom pristupacne ploce.. Za bombardere i circu-pipe nemam sto reci :beer:

Ovaj Lucid Hydra chip stvarno izgleda zanimljivo.. Sam koncept pruza krajnjim korisnicima vise slobode u odabiru komponenti (citaj grafulja)..

Edit: Btw, svidja mi se ovaj Core i7-870 :D

McG 17.08.2009. 16:14

nVidia nForce MCP99 za LGA-1156 procesore
 
Fresh reports suggest that nVidia indeed has a chipset product lineup planned for Q1 2010, that supports socket LGA-1156 processors, codenamed MCP99. In addition to this, nVidia will also serve up two new LGA-775 chipsets, codenamed MCP85 and MCP89. What's common to all these chipsets is that they embed an integrated graphics processor (IGP). Some of these chipsets feature a 64-bit wide memory channel dedicated to the IGP's memory needs, apart from the 128-bit wide (dual-channel) system memory controller, on the LGA-775 platform. The dedicated memory channel allows the IGP to match entry-level graphics cards in terms of performance, without eating into the system memory. We predict this will be implemented in the same way AMD 780G, 785G and 790GX does, with dedicated memory chips present onboard. The LGA-775 compatible ones will further feature dual-channel DDR3-1333 standard supportive memory controllers for system memory. The MGPU will be named inside the GeForce 200M series.

Izvor: techPowerUp

bluefluid 19.08.2009. 00:30

ASRock P55 Deluxe Bundles SATA III Addon-Card

http://www.pohrani.com/f/3p/gt/35LNB6Tr/95b.jpg

'upcoming P55 Deluxe advertises SATA III support, and packs a tiny, half-height card that uses PCI-Express (2.0?) x1 interface. At the heart of it is a Marvell 88SE9123 SATA III controller'

Izvor:techpowerup;OCWorkbench




ASUS Prepares First LGA-1156 Workstation Motherboard

http://www.pohrani.com/f/2o/X4/2l0L3pgY/p7p55.jpg

'The ASUS P7P55 WS SuperComputer builds on the features of its socket LGA-1366 cousins, by offering as many as five PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots, a massive 16+3 phase CPU VRM, support for DDR3-2133 by overclocking, and the latest multi-GPU standards support.'

Izvor: techpowerup;XFastest

JuiceBox 19.08.2009. 01:43

Isprika sto nisam u toku al jel nije trebalo bit da su samo i5 1156 socket.Koliko vidim ovaj i7-860 je i7 a scoket 1156 ? kak to?
jel moze netko objasnit su klasifikaciju ?

McG 19.08.2009. 02:46

Pa imaš sve objašnjeno na prethodnim stranicama i linkovima koji su postani. Osim toga i diljem neta je stvarno brdo meterijala o Intelovoj novoj shemi:) imenovanja.

bluefluid 19.08.2009. 10:48

http://www.pohrani.com/t/9/XF/sfIkd52/tab.jpg

:chears:

JuiceBox 19.08.2009. 15:18

thx skuzio sam sad. Al su sjeb*** sto su ova dva i7 modela ubacili na 1156 socket pa je malo zbunjujuce.

McG 19.08.2009. 22:22

Thorough Review of Intel Core i5-750:)

aski 19.08.2009. 23:08

Socket 1156 heatsinks have taken the middle ground with a spacing of 75mm, while Socket 1366 heatsinks use a 80×80mm hole spacing, and 775 mounting is 72mm apart. :D


Ajde nek vise i to cudo krene :)

hammer_of_thor 19.08.2009. 23:35

O bože, pa ja ne vjerujem.

Heatsinkovi sa i7-ice neće moći bez dodatnih mounting kitova na i5? :care:

Fail


Foxconn je na Bloodrageu napravio odličan posao, ima rupe i za 775 i za i7
Ploča je srednja žalost ali ajde bar nešto :D

JuiceBox 20.08.2009. 00:35

Jos jedno glupo pitanje al me zanima : zasto novi nehalemi imaju "pinove" i s druge strane procesore , ove uz rub ? btw ovaj i5 je super stvarcica samo da ne bude preskup

McG 20.08.2009. 01:19

32nm Clarkdale i Havendale Preview - prijevod je koma, ali sve se skuži.:)

McG 20.08.2009. 15:07

Asus Maximus III Gene LGA-1156 ploča
 
The newest entry into ASUS' already huge lineup of socket LGA-1156 motherboards based on the Intel P55 chipset, is the new Republic of Gamers Maximus III Gene. Unlike the Maximus III Formula, this one is based on the micro-ATX form-factor, with four expansion slots in all, to spare. The LGA-1156 socket is powered by a high-grade 10-phase digital PWM circuit. It is wired to four DDR3 DIMM slots for dual-channel memory. With two PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots (electically dual x8 when both populated) wired to the CPU, the board utilizes the feature-set of the P55 PCH completely. An open-ended PCI-E x4 is located between the two x16 slots, and a legacy PCI slot below. Connectivity includes gigabit Ethernet, Firewire, USB, eSATA, and 8-channel ASUS SupremeFX X-Fi, implemented in the same way as on Rampage II Gene and Maximus II Gene. The ASUS Maximus III Gene motherboard is expected to start selling by the end of this month, its pricing is yet to be known.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/K/mT/3cavfO...siiigene00.jpg
Izvor: techPowerUp

McG 21.08.2009. 14:57

Asus TUF Series Sabertooth i55
 
Here's our Asus LGA-1156, Intel P55 motherboard for the day: TUF Series Sabertooth i55. As a short history lesson, Asus' TUF series motherboards was touted as a parallel to its Republic of Gamers (ROG) series, and was unveiled back in March as the "Marine cool" design, although no products made it to the market. The selling points of TUF series is unparalleled durability and next-generation motherboard components, including "breakthrough innovations in materials--ceramic and metal--for exceptional Cooling". Here's hoping this one does. The Sabertooth i55 comes across as fairly mid-range within the P55 motherboard lineup, as far as features go, but banks heavily on design innovations.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/38/13X/KCbFt4r/asus.jpg
For starters, the CPU is powered by a 12+2 phase VRM, while the four DDR3 DIMM slots rely on a 2-phase VRM. For the greater part of its features, the Intel P55 chipset pitches in. Additional storage controllers provide extra SATA ports, supporting Asus DriveXpert technology. Expansion slots include two PCI-E 2.0 x16 (arrange as x8, x8 in SLi and CrossFireX), two PCI-E x1, and two PCI. Here's where the unique features start: metal heatsinks with ceramic coating that boosts surface area by 50% for better heat dissipation. On the components front, it features durable "TUF-branded" MOSFETs, and capacitors. The DDR3 DIMM slots lack retention clips on one end, a feature implemented by Asus with several recent motherboards, that makes sure the clips don't interfere with installed graphics cards. Although there's adequate clearance on this board, it is utilised by providing a placeholder for a fan dedicated to memory cooling. In a short presentation, Asus describes its innovations. There's no word on its availability and pricing.

Izvor: techPowerUp

Dizel 21.08.2009. 15:17

Ajme kako stancaju modele ne bi li nas nabrijali na superarhitekturu... :D

Keramika, metal, jos samo fali da je oblozena kamenom vunom iz Rockwoola ne bi li se nasjelo da je to nesto najfinije i rucni rad :)

Pantera-N 21.08.2009. 16:58

mene cijena zanima.. a ne keramika :)

Sn4k3 21.08.2009. 17:14

Normalno cijena igra veliku ulogu, ali neka tih "keramika" i ostalih inovacija..

McG 21.08.2009. 22:29

How Much Does it Cost to Build a P55 Motherboard?
 
The pressure is on the motherboard makers to deliver affordable P55 solutions. Without affordable motherboards, Lynnfield will fail - so Intel and end users are both expecting a healthy supply of ~$100 motherboards. As I’m about to show you, doing so is quite difficult. The socket itself costs a couple of dollars, but even that is significantly more than LGA-775. The bulk of the 1156 socket isn’t the cost of the device, but rather the licensing fee that has to be paid to Intel for each socket. I’ve heard numbers approaching $7 per socket, per board once you include the licensing fees. As volumes go up, the price per socket will go down, but for smaller manufacturers this is a tough pill to swallow. It’s far easier to build an expensive motherboard than it is to build a cheaper one.
http://www.pohrani.com/t/2q/KS/j4tNaS9/costs.jpg
If you start at $40 for the motherboard, you’ll need to add another $10 for a 6-layer PCB. A 6-layer PCB is necessary if you want to run SLi at this point, otherwise you can get by with a cheaper $5 4-layer PCB. Mentioning SLi also requires validation and support from nVidia. That’s $30 up front plus an average of $5 per motherboard. P55 motherboards will have a range of 4 to 24-phase power delivery circuitry. Each phase costs about $2 in components although the high end motherboards with high quality MOSFETs/chokes/capacitors will reach $3 per phase.

The power connectors, switches, LEDs, I/O back panel and other components on the motherboard cost anywhere between $8 and $15 depending on the type of motherboard. What about those fancy copper heatpipes and elaborate heatsinks? They start at $6 and go as high as $25 for the really high end motherboards. While we'll definitely see P55 motherboards hit the $100 price point, it's worth realizing how difficult that is to do. As P55 matures, these costs will fall (particularly the chipset) but initially it's going to be a tough race to the bottom.

Izvor: AnandTech

Pantera-N 21.08.2009. 23:27

kad uopče možemo očekivati P55 ploče i i5? Tenutno sam u postupku nabavljanja quada, pa me zanima jel mi se isplati čekat...ako cijena bude tu negdje

McG 21.08.2009. 23:36

Sljedeći mjesec stižu nove ploče i procesori.:)


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