upravo tako, na eng. se to kaze 'higher binned chips', a evo ti si to uspio pretocit na hrv. makar ja nisam znao, lol.
dakle razlike su GDDR3 i 4, odnosno 'kvaliteta' iste vrste chipa, citaj ovaj iz 3870 ce se najvjerojatnije bolje clockat od ovog iz 3850, pod uvjetom da rade na istom naponu, sto mislim (nisam siguran) da 3850 radi na malo manje voltaze, ne znam, meni je to itekako vrijedi tih para ;)

Inače samo da javim da s catalyst 7.11 3870 brža od 8800gt(s novim driverima) u craysisu a za osale igre nisam gledao

:stoopid:
To si ti benchao ili si vidio neki review???

Catalyst 7.11 beta
ATI has posted an update to the display driver that solves some issues when HD3800 / HD2000 is used to play CRYSIS.

It updates the following :

DirectX 10:
Fixes texture flickering in bushes, clouds, trees
Performance improvements

DirectX 9:
Fixes Anti-Aliasing corruption seen on the ATI Radeon 2900 Series
Anti-Aliasing performance enhancements
Crossfire performance improvements
Fixes random graphics corruption during game play

Download it from http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...asp?deptID=894
(xp/vista)


izvor : http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=423520


ATI Catalyst 7.11
Highly anticipated catalyst driver is here at last.
It Solved these issues and more.

Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System
This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows Vista. These include:

• Bioshock: Pulling the lever in the chamber no longer results in the game failing. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30493
• Bioshock, Lost Planet, and World In Conflict: Connecting certain dual link display devices to certain ATI Radeon™ 2x00 series of cards no longer results in limited display resolutions being available. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30090
• Call of Juarez: Enabling CrossFire™ no longer results in flickering being noticed when playing the DX10 version of the game. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29540
• Doom 3: Playing the game on a system containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 series of product and running the Windows Vista operating system no longer results in display corruption being noticed when using the console commands. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29978
• Fable: A black ring is no longer seen around the player character. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29939
• Hellgate, Lord of the Rings, PT Boat, and World in Conflict: Corruption is no longer noticed when AA is enabled. Further details can be found in topic number 737-30487
• Rainbow Six Vegas: Setting the display resolution to 1600x1200 and applying the in-game settings to high no longer results in corruption being noticed when using an HDMI display device. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28826
• Roxio Creator Premier v9: MyDVD: Attempting to burn a DVD no longer results in the burn process failing at the encoding preview. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29937
• Serious Sam: the Second Encounter Demo: Game play is no longer delayed when playing the game on a system running Windows XP and containing an ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-29933
• A blank screen is no longer displayed after unchecking all the Component Video formats except when the 480i30 custom mode is applied. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27620

Download from
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx


izvor : http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=69001

O čemu mi sad pričamo za Crysis?
O ovom hotfixu:
http://forum.pcekspert.com/showthread.php?t=87938

Ili o službenim 7.11?

Koliko sam ja shvatio o službenim 7.11

gore u prvom djelu je Catalyst 7.11 beta (to je mozda taj hotfix) a dolje je dio s pravim
ATI Catalyst 7.11

666 million transistors on 55nm fabrication process-Izgleda da je ati ovog puta odlučio okušat sreću sa tkz. vražijim brojem tranzistora. Meni stvarno nije jasno zašto ljudi nerjetko petljaju dotičnog tamo gdje mu nije mjesto..
Meni nema druge nego kupit nevidiju..

Koji su driveri izašli znam, samo mi nije bistro ovo sa 3870 i GT...mislio sam da netko ima link na test ili neki drugi info.

e pa to bi i mene zanimalo .....nadam se da nisam napravio za*** sta sam narucio 8800gt (ono ne trebam ja bog zna kakve performanse ali ipak ) iako sumnjam da daje 3870 bolje rezultate s tim driverima osim ako ih nisu sredili kako je i nvidia prvo sredila svoje :)

vidio sam jedan review e sad cu probat ga opet nac preko googla uglavnom u novim driverima za 8800gt gubi 8-10% u craysisu na performansama jer sad renda sve efekte, dok catalyst 7.11 donosi poboljšanje atijevim karticama. Gledao sam samo craysis a ostale igre nisam ***iga evo idem nac link pa ga postam...

Samo mala opaska: nije craysis nego crysis. :)

Iskreno, ne cudi me previse sto je 3870 brza od 8800GT u crysis-u. 320SP-a mora jednom pokazati snagu :D

Da barem Gainward radi ATI kartice pa da dobijemo jednu 3850 "Goes Like Hell" sa diskretnim natpisom GPU: 750+ Mhz / DDR4: 1000+ Mhz ;)

gdje je gt 1800 kn?

Evo vam brzi testić starih i novih drivera 1680x1050 sve na High bez AA.

Prvi test su stari driveri, drugi test su novi.

24.11.2007 16:02:52 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1680x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 76.79s, Average FPS: 26.04
Min FPS: 18.84 at frame 154, Max FPS: 32.13 at frame 934
Average Tri/Sec: -25426880, Tri/Frame: -976309
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.94
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 69.72s, Average FPS: 28.68
Min FPS: 18.84 at frame 154, Max FPS: 32.58 at frame 977
Average Tri/Sec: -27686782, Tri/Frame: -965216
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 69.67s, Average FPS: 28.71
Min FPS: 18.84 at frame 154, Max FPS: 33.15 at frame 993
Average Tri/Sec: -27706424, Tri/Frame: -965129
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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24.11.2007 16:02:52 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 2869,5



24.11.2007 16:13:55 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1680x1050, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 77.59s, Average FPS: 25.78
Min FPS: 13.40 at frame 144, Max FPS: 32.84 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: -25200344, Tri/Frame: -977678
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.94
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 69.77s, Average FPS: 28.66
Min FPS: 13.40 at frame 144, Max FPS: 32.84 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: -27693826, Tri/Frame: -966146
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 69.68s, Average FPS: 28.70
Min FPS: 13.40 at frame 144, Max FPS: 32.84 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: -27704284, Tri/Frame: -965241
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -0.95
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

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24.11.2007 16:13:55 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1680x1050 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 2868

DaNiJ3L : bila je u ADM-u na pocetku 1850kn .....a poslje nisam nigdje vidio ispod 2000kn .....ali zato u varazdinu u ZIT-u xfx 8800gt 1900kn :)

lajchi : pa po ovome sta ja vidim i nema bas neke razlike s tim driverima ..ili ne kuzim ovo :D

Pa baš to, nema razlike.. :) Neznam ja ko tu koga hebe na tim online testovima i review-ovima :D

ma vec sam lud ....u ovih nekoliko dana procitao sam 10000 reviewa i na kraju sam zakljucio da sam sad jos vise zbunjen nego sta sam bio :D posto nisam neki zahtjevni gamer tj. sve sta igram je cod2 i cod4 tako da ce mi ova 8800gt biti sasvim dosta za jedno vrijeme i jos samo stavim gore accelero s1 i to je to....

Psycho, posto nisi neki zahtjevan gejmer ;P na tvom mjestu bi uzeo jednu 3850 s finim hladjenjem (Powercolorka sa zerothermom kakva je na testu pada na pamet, pa se netrebas zahebavati s dodatnim hladjenjem), ak ti sfali snage clockas ju na frekve 3870 i ustedis kakvih 700-800 Kn :) u onosu na 8800GT. Tak ti ja na to gledam ;P

ma vec je narucena 8800gt ...a i da nisam narucio tu onda bih uzeo barem 3870 :D

Problem je s tim PowerColor-kama što se vent vrti na 100%. Bezveze, jer bi hlađenje bilo odlično i da se vrti na 40%. Ak se u Rivi ili negdje da narihtat onda super.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/472/13/

sad po ovome je 8800GT osjetno jaca od 3870. mislio sam nabaviti 3870 ali me ovo razocaralo...:kafa:

"Osjetno" jača je manje od 1000 bodova u Marku06. No to uopće nije sporno jer svi znaju kak te 2 kartice stoje, bitno je što možeš nabaviti, po kojoj cijeni te što više preferiraš.

Evo još jednog usporednog testa: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...e-preview.html

Baš suprotno. Na toj kartici je vent stalno na 30%, i digne se za 10% u igrama. Ali za dobro hlađenje treba biti na 55-60%.

I kakva je situacija s bukom na 55-60%? Kakve su temp onda?

Pa buka na 55% je podnošljiva, a temperatura ide max nekih 60c +-5 s naklokanom karticom. Ako se kartica nebi klokala (što bi bilo šteta :D) čak bi i bilo dosta 30%, a na toj razini je vent nečujan, s tim da temp skoči do 70, 80c onda.

To je taman onda, nije ni potrebno mijenjat cooler :)

lajchi, nekako sam bia pod dojmom da imaš PowerColor sa stock hlađenjem, jer je stef mislia na PowerColor PCS kartice sa Zerotherm hlađenjem koje se stvarno vrti na 100% i ne može se zasad podesit koliko ja znam. Kod stock hlađenja temperature 80 C su prihvatljive jer ih lipo hladnjak puše van.
I još nešto, mislim da je 3850 dobra kartica koja je u rangu s 1950XTX (bar prema anandtechu) ali ako je 3870 skuplja samo 300 kn i ima duplo više memorije (gledam vemil) onda je stvarno bačena u drugi plan. Nego, kad dolazi 3870 u vemil jel itko zna?

Digi tech je stavio u cjenik GeCube hd 3870 X turbo edition, nesto neznatno oc, ali drugi cooler po slici, drugaciji vent i heatpipe, ali i postena cijena:

http://www.gecube.com/products-detai...&prod_id=69097

dobio sam odgovor od lost-a:

znaci, u ve-milu je cca 1329.00 + PDV, sto je 148kn jeftinije, koja razlika...