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The Exiled 20.08.2022. 13:15

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Intel 13th Gen Raptor Lake Specs Leaked: Non-K Core i5s and Core i3 Based on 12th Gen Alder Lake:kafa:
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The next-gen Core lineup consists of 14 SKUs, including the lower-end non-K chips. Interestingly, while the higher-end parts are based on newer dies, the lower-end non-K offerings will be repurposed Alder Lake dies. The latter consists of the Core i3-13400, i5-13400, i5-13400, i5-13500, and the i5-13600. This means that the budget Raptor Lake offerings may feature just 1.25MB of L2 cache per P-core with the rest packing up to 2MB. The L3 cache should be scaled up across the board as the E-core count has increased throughout (excluding the i3-13100). The single-core performance will put a dampener on the show as Raptor Cove is roughly identical to Raptor Cove. Regardless, boost clock increments alongside fatter cache reserves should result in nifty gains in many lightly threaded workloads such as gaming and photo-editing. Intel plans to reveal its 13th Gen lineup on the 27th of September, followed by the retail launch roughly 15-20 days later.
https://i.postimg.cc/kgHyQ89d/Intel-Raptor-Lake.png
Izvor: Hardware Times
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Autor The Exiled (Post 3613176)
Obični (non-K) Raptor Lake Core i5 i Core i3 modeli koji stižu u proljeće 2023. budu vrlo vjerojatno opet ponudili najbolji omjer uloženog i dobivenog u kombinaciji s B660 DDR4 pločama.

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Intel's Raptor Lake Reportedly Has 350W Turbo Mode, But Only on New Motherboards:fiju:
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Intel's 13th-Generation Raptor Lake processors will have a secret sauce to offer unbeatable performance in demanding applications: A new 350W power limit that you can trigger with a new turbo mode that will increase CPU clocks. There is a catch, though — the 350W mode will only work on select motherboards with Intel's 700-series chipsets. The new 350W MTP mode will allow Intel's next-generation Core i9 processors to gain about 15% higher performance, albeit for a limited amount of time. The mode will also require extremely capable cooling systems, so we would guess that the vast majority of next-gen Core i9 owners will have to use either an advanced liquid cooling system or a monstrous air cooler.
Izvor: Tom's Hardware

Mladenxy 20.08.2022. 17:49

Znači u ovoj "novoj" seriji nema ni jedan gamerski i5 bez malih jezgri? Kaj nema i5 13400f sa "samo" velikim jezgrama? Kaj nema čak ni F procesora kod jeftinijih modela nego moraš platiti integriranu grafu koju nikada nebuš ni upalio?
Ili nestalo "škarta" ili se povampirili pa nema više dobar cpu za sirotinju.

Dr. Strange 20.08.2022. 18:04

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Autor Mladenxy (Post 3618331)
Znači u ovoj "novoj" seriji nema ni jedan gamerski i5 bez malih jezgri? Kaj nema i5 13400f sa "samo" velikim jezgrama? Kaj nema čak ni F procesora kod jeftinijih modela nego moraš platiti integriranu grafu koju nikada nebuš ni upalio?
Ili nestalo "škarta" ili se povampirili pa nema više dobar cpu za sirotinju.

Potpisao bih odmah 12 P jezgri, odlično za gaming i MT workload.

MegaSkot 20.08.2022. 20:41

1 privitaka
Adler lake jezgra pod novim imenom.

Igre za retardirane. :roller:

stitrek 20.08.2022. 21:04

13th gen je refresh a hi end ce biti nafrizirana grijalica da smanje razliku naspram Zen 4 koji bi trebao biti puno bolja platforma.
Tek sa 14th gen Meteor Lake mozemo nesto novo ocekivati, a to je i novi socket od Intela.

The Exiled 20.08.2022. 21:32

U sljedećih nekoliko generacija namjeravaju tjerati hibridni big.LITTLE pristup, tako da osam većih jačih jezgri ostaje, dok se povećavaju manje šparne jezgre.:)

Sn4k3 21.08.2022. 12:36

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3618366)
U sljedećih nekoliko generacija namjeravaju tjerati hibridni big.LITTLE pristup, tako da osam većih jačih jezgri ostaje, dok se povećavaju manje šparne jezgre.:)

...dok ne dostignu nivo proizvodnog procesa kojeg danas jedan TSMC ima, nebi se čudio da nakon toga "male" jezgre kao takve nestanu s lica zemlje :D

The Exiled 21.08.2022. 12:43

Točno to, isto kak je chiplet dizajn bil ismijavan, a sad sa Sapphire Rapids modelima rade istu stvar kakvu je AMD imal s orginalnim Threadripperima.:)

Jedino kaj je stvarno žalosno da taj hibridni big.LITTLE dizajn ne drži vodu za mobilna rješenja u kojima bi bil idealan, pa se opet ide na što veću potrošnju, uz što viši takt.

Dr. Strange 21.08.2022. 14:40

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3618469)
Točno to, isto kak je chiplet dizajn bil ismijavan, a sad sa Sapphire Rapids modelima rade istu stvar kakvu je AMD imal s orginalnim Threadripperima.:)

Jedino kaj je stvarno žalosno da taj hibridni big.LITTLE dizajn ne drži vodu za mobilna rješenja u kojima bi bil idealan, pa se opet ide na što veću potrošnju, uz što viši takt.

Big/little dizajn je super stvar na smartphonima, no na desktopu baš i ne, desktop workload je dosta kompleksniji pa je samim time i puno teže napravit algoritam koji će automatski prebacivati radnju na velike i male jezgre, kako će scheduler znati kad je najbolje prebaciti na malu jezgru i uštediti bateriju? Npr radim u photoshopu, po defaultu se pokreće u P jezgrama, i otvorim neki dodatak za kojeg scheduler zaključi da je bolje pokretat u e jezgri, no meni baš trebaju max performanse, postoji tisuće kombinacija gdje scheduler može krivo procijeniti, pogotovo kod nekih malo manje poznatih programa i zato se nadam da AMD neće krenuti tim putem nego se držati samo velikih jezgri.

The Exiled 21.08.2022. 15:04

Da, AMD već sad ima arhitekturu koja im omogućava da preslože svoje LEGO kockice kak god ih volja, dok Intel mora koristiti hibridni dizajn i još k tome sve pojačati na 11, da budu konkurentni ili bolji.
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TSMC (Not Intel) Makes the Vast Majority of Logic Tiles on Intel "Meteor Lake" MCM:kafa:
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Japanese tech publication PC Watch has annotated the "Meteor Lake" SoC, and points out that the vast majority of the chip's tiles and logic die-area is manufactured on TSMC nodes. The MCM consists of four logic tiles—the CPU tile, the Graphics tile, the SoC tile, and the I/O tile. The four sit on a base tile that facilitates extreme-density microscopic wiring interconnecting the logic tiles. The base tile is built on the 22 nm HKMG silicon fabrication node. This tile lacks any logic, and only serves to interconnect the tiles. Intel has an active 22 nm node, and decided it has the right density for the job. The CPU tile is the only logic tile built on an Intel node, which in this case is the Intel 4 node. The company considers this process to be on-par or better than TSMC's N5, and it probably wanted the crown jewels of its IP—CPU cores—to be built on a native fab. The CPU tile contains the CPU cores, a last-level cache, and Foveros interfaces.

The Graphics tile is the second-most important logic tile, and contains an iGPU based on the Xe-LPG graphics architecture. An evolution of Xe-LP, the LPG features real-time ray tracing capabilities. Intel decided to use the TSMC N5 (5 nm EUV) node for this tile. Not all of the iGPU is based on this tile, some of it, such as the Display Engine, could be located on the I/O tile. The SoC tile is the largest in terms of area, and is built on the TSMC N6 (6 nm) node. This contains the memory controllers, PCIe root-complex, and the controllers and SerDes (serializer-deserializer) of the various on-package devices. The I/O die is the smallest die, and is essentially an extension of the SoC die. It's built on the same TSMC N6 node, and features the PHY (physical layer) components of the various I/O.

Intel confirmed that Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake are launching in 2023 and 2024 respectively. The series will launch for desktop and mobile platforms.
Izvor: TechPowerUp i Tom's Hardware
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Intel Introduces First-of-its-Kind Semiconductor Co-Investment Program:fiju:
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Intel Corporation today announced a first-of-its-kind Semiconductor Co-Investment Program (SCIP) that introduces a new funding model to the capital-intensive semiconductor industry. As part of its program, Intel has signed a definitive agreement with the infrastructure affiliate of Brookfield Asset Management, one of the largest global alternative asset managers, which will provide Intel with a new, expanded pool of capital for manufacturing build-outs. SCIP is a key element of Intel's Smart Capital approach, which aims to provide innovative ways to fund growth while creating further financial flexibility to accelerate the company's IDM 2.0 strategy. Intel's partnership with Brookfield is expected to enhance the company's strong balance sheet by allowing Intel to tap into a new pool of capital below its cost of equity while protecting its cash and debt capacity for future investments and continuing to fund a healthy and growing dividend. Over the next several years, the structure is expected to provide a $15 billion cumulative benefit to Intel's adjusted free cash flow and is expected to be accretive to Intel's earnings per share during the construction and ramp phase. SCIP provides Intel the ability to replicate the co-investment model with other partners for other build-outs globally.
Izvor: TechPowerUp

Taproot7 03.09.2022. 23:40

lose kod ovog rata intela i amd je to sto su oboje otpustili kocnice u potrosnji i zagrijavanju. potrosnja nije neka stavka ali toplina je. kako smo dosli do toga da je 80 stupnjeva celzijevih normalna radna temperatura procesora a 90 i vise stupnjeva celzijevih normalna radna temperatura naponske regulacije na maticnim plocama.

Mladenxy 03.09.2022. 23:45

Ne nužno, ima super procesora koji malo griju i ne naprežu matičnu. i5 12400 i prst u uho.

ansha 03.09.2022. 23:47

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Autor Taproot7 (Post 3621267)
lose kod ovog rata intela i amd je to sto su oboje otpustili kocnice u potrosnji i zagrijavanju. potrosnja nije neka stavka ali toplina je. kako smo dosli do toga da je 80 stupnjeva celzijevih normalna radna temperatura procesora a 90 i vise stupnjeva celzijevih normalna radna temperatura naponske regulacije na maticnim plocama.

Ako su to temperature za koje proizvodjac kaze da su ok i posto imas 3 godine garancije, u cemu je problem?
Sta se vrm-a tice, tu si potpuno promasio posto vecina novih ploca koje nisu najnizi rang ima predimenzioniran vrm...

Taproot7 03.09.2022. 23:49

o njima se slabo pise i malo ljudi se sa njima zadovolji. mora biti i9k ili r9x. meni se svida i5 12400 ali mi se ne svida sto nema dobro pogodena budget ploca za njega. na lga1200 je bolji izbor ali to nije do intela.

The Exiled 08.09.2022. 09:49

Intel Expects More Market Share Loss Throughout 2023, Will Likely Exit More Businesses:kafa:
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Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger spoke at the Evercore ISI TMT conference yesterday, saying that the company expects to continue losing data center market share throughout at least 2023 and will only begin regaining in 2025 and 2026. Gelsinger also said that the company would likely exit other businesses, much like it recently began exiting Optane memory, as it continues to narrow its focus to its core competencies. Intel's recently delayed its Sapphire Rapids launch again, with the chips now slated to arrive in 2023. Gelsinger remarked that while the new chips are 'better than the AMD alternatives" in power and performance and will win in some benchmarks, the advantages aren't dramatic enough to slow AMD's advance. As a result, Intel's data center business won't grow at the same rate as the market, meaning the company will continue to lose market share.

"Competition just has too much momentum, and we haven't executed well enough. So we expect that bottoming. The business will be growing, but we do expect that there continues to be some share losses. We're not keeping up with the overall TAM growth until we get later into '25 and '26 when we start regaining share, material share gains," Gelsinger added. Notably, the statement isn't definitive about the company's performance in 2024 — Gelsinger specifically stated that the company wouldn't begin regaining market share until 2025.

"Now, obviously, in 2024, we think we're competitive. 2025, we think we're back to unquestioned leadership with our transistors and process technology," Gelsinger said. AMD has already taken data center market share from Intel for 13 consecutive quarters, reaching 20.2% of the market, and Gelsinger's comments point to at least five more quarters of share losses — and perhaps more. Gelsinger pointed to the company's Sierra Forest processors as a key innovation that will help the company address the other chip architecture steadily siphoning off market share — Arm. The Sierra Forest Xeon processors have efficiency cores optimized to provide the utmost power efficiency and performance density, so they'll have higher core counts.. Intel's Sierra Forest processors, which the company designed at the behest of its largest customers, look promising. However, Sierra Forest isn't scheduled to arrive until 2024. Meanwhile, AMD's 5nm Bergamo chips, which employ 128 simplified 'Zen 4C' cores in a similar density-improving arrangement to address the same market segments, arrive a year earlier in 2023. While it's clear that Intel has several tough years ahead as it works to rebuild, Gelsinger did point to leadership changes that will help accelerate the turnaround.
Izvor: Pat Gelsinger

robee 09.09.2022. 10:40

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Autor Taproot7 (Post 3621271)
o njima se slabo pise i malo ljudi se sa njima zadovolji. mora biti i9k ili r9x. meni se svida i5 12400 ali mi se ne svida sto nema dobro pogodena budget ploca za njega. na lga1200 je bolji izbor ali to nije do intela.

Jos ako zelis itx kao ja :)

Ima li kakve sanse da se uskoro pojavi neki Intel cpu sa gpu a da je bolja od uhd 750? Treba mi integrirana gpu u rangu 1030 i meni dosta (ne igram igrice).

The Exiled 09.09.2022. 10:51

Sudeći prema službenim slajdovima, Raptor Lake i dalje zadržava UHD iGPU, odnosno samo malo poboljšanu varijaciju na temu.

robee 09.09.2022. 12:17

750 je usporedivo sa cime? To je bas bas osnovno ili? 770 isto ili ?

The Exiled 09.09.2022. 12:26

Baci pogled, ako ti išta od ovih testova pomaže, ali općenito je riječ o iGPU modelima koji tjeraju multimediju i daju sliku na ekranu.

BusMaster 11.09.2022. 18:25

ntel 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs & 700-Series Motherboard Prices To See Price Hike In Q4, Up To 20%

Link: https://wccftech.com/intel-price-hik...cent-increase/

The Exiled 12.09.2022. 12:44

Intel teases 6 GHz Raptor Lake at stock, 8 GHz overclocking World Record:kafa:
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We're here in Israel for Intel's Technology Tour 2022, where the company is sharing new information about its latest products, much of it under embargo until a later date. However, the company did share a slide touting that Raptor Lake is capable of operating at 6GHz at stock settings and that it has set a world overclocking record at 8GHz - obviously with liquid nitrogen. Intel also shared impressive performance projections for single- and multi-thread performance. Notably, the peak of 6GHz is 300 MHz faster than the 5.7GHz for AMD's Ryzen 7000 processors:):D, but Intel hasn't announced which product will hit that peak speed. We also aren't sure if a 6GHz chip will arrive with the first wave of chips or be a special edition 'KS' model. Intel also claimed that Raptor Lake will have a 15% gain in single-threaded performance and a 41% gain in multi-threaded, as measured by SPECintrate_2017 and compared to Alder Lake, and an overall '40% performance scaling.' The Israel Development Center (IDC) has been the design engine behind a long line of Intel products spanning back to the 8088 that started it all back in 1979. That lineup spans until today, encompassing well-known names like Pentium MXX, Banias, Sandy Bridge, and many others.
Izvor: Tom's Hardware

SlavoS 12.09.2022. 14:17

To če biti KS ili kW model ?

the_ghost 12.09.2022. 15:38

takozvani bar 5kW Chiller Edition

jucca 12.09.2022. 18:09

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Autor MegaSkot (Post 3618354)
Adler lake jezgra pod novim imenom.



Igre za retardirane. :roller:

https://www.pcgamer.com/intels-13th-...-architecture/


🙈🙈

Sent from my SM-S908B using Tapatalk

The Exiled 12.09.2022. 20:12

Intel confirms that Raptor Lake was not originally part of their CPU roadmap:kafa:
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At the company's Tech Tour press event, Intel confirmed that Raptor Lake was not originally part of the company's product roadmap, with its inception coming less than two years ago when Intel knew that there would be a long gap between Alder Lake and Meteor Lake. Intel's Meteor Lake processors will utilise more complex manufacturing techniques, being a multi-chiplet design that uses multiple lithography nodes and the company's Foveros Die Interconnect (FDI) technology. Originally, Intel planned to release Meteor Lake as a successor to Alder Lake, but when timelines for Meteor Lake stretched out, Intel decided to create Raptor Lake, a design that required minimal resources to create, but could deliver compelling performance gains over Alder Lake. Meteor Lake should have been Intel's 13th Generation series of Core processors, now 13th Gen is Raptor Lake.

With Raptor Lake, Intel has avoided leaving a gap in their product roadmap that their competitors could exploit. Using multiple design enhancements, Raptor Lake can deliver higher clock speeds and increased IPC while retaining core designs that are very similar to their Alder Lake counterparts. With Raptor Lake, Intel is delivering more than a standard CPU refresh, but less than we would expect from a full core redesign. In a sense, Raptor Lake is a highly polished version of Alder Lake, offering users more L2/L3 cache, additional E-cores to boost multi-threading performance, and higher core clock speeds to boost single-threaded and multi-threaded performance. Fundamentally, Raptor Lake is simply a refined version of Alder Lake, but that has not stopped Intel from delivering significant performance gains.
Izvor: OC3D

sfc_PsychQ 14.09.2022. 12:04

Evo malo leakanih benchova mid range-a:
https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i5-1...s-price-range/

The Exiled 14.09.2022. 20:39

Između GoFundMeMyFAB epizoda i gašenja ili prodaje određenih divizija, situacija u Intelu IMHO sve više podsjeća na onu u AMD-u prije 15 godina, s tom razlikom da Intel nema šrot arhitekture i drže se svojih proizvodnih pogona.
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Intel stock drops to 5-year low, dips by 46% year-over-year as chipmaker decides to sell Mobileye:kafa:
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Intel’s stock price has dropped to a 5-year low of $29, following an extended period of unrest across Wall Street. The chipmaker’s share price has plummeted by as much as 46% through the course of the last 12 months, going from $55 back in October last year to just $29 at the time of writing. The Blue stocks have essentially halved in value. To keep earnings in balance, Intel plans to spin off its Mobileye division, hoping to fetch as much as $30 billion for the same, twice as much as the $15 billion it cost to acquire it back in 2017. Gelsinger hopes to fund the chipmaker’s future expansions using the proceeds from this sale. The CHIPS Act was passed a short while back. Aimed at reinforcing the American chipmaking industry, Intel is expected to be one of the primary benefactors of the bill. Regardless, its share has fallen by 22% since the passing of the act.
Izvor: Hardware Times

Antony 19.09.2022. 20:06

First review of retail Intel Core i9-13900K “Raptor Lake” CPU emerges


TLDR;

13900k compared to 12900k:

~12% higher ST / gaming performance
~ 42% higher MT performance at "unlimited mode"
Power usage have increased from 236w to 343w to reach performance numbers above (so 45% more power usage for 42% higher MT performance)
P-core IPC increase is basically nothing ~1-3%
E-core IPC increase is ~6%
Most of performance increase comes from higher clockspeeds

The Exiled 19.09.2022. 20:12

Ovisno o modelu sad imaju 75% do 100% više manjih šparnih E-jezgri uz više taktove, zagrijavanje i potrošnju, ali na kraju se sve svodi na porast od kakvih 40% MT performansi.

demetrius 19.09.2022. 20:49

jedan test sa oba na 5 ghz pa ćemo vidjet razliku mislim na 12900k i 13900k,i ostale.

hmhm,i ovu generaciju preskočit mislim na intel,uzet amd,čekat meteor lake,ako možda kupim rtx 3080 upogonit ću je sa i5 4670k.:goood:

The Exiled 19.09.2022. 20:56

IMHO takvi testovi budu samo dodatno potvrdili da je Raptor Lake osvježeni Alder Lake, te da konkrentog pomaka u arhitekturi nije bilo, pa su tu zato manje jezgre u duplo većem broju uz još više radne taktove, potrošnju i zagrijavanje.

E da, kaj su kupnje tiče, pa tebi je sad idealna prilika za neki Zen 3 ili Intel ekvivalent, da se ne patiš s Core i5-4670K + RTX 3080. Ne moraš uopće ovo novo gledati, jer i još aktualne generacije budu ti fini skok.

robee 20.09.2022. 13:33

Kakva je situacija 12500 vs 13500? Vidim da su i u njega natovarili hrpu jezgri? Radi li na taj nacin bolje sa win11? Ili ce i kod njega biti bolji samo mt?
Mbo b660 bi navodno trebale imati podrsku i za 13gen

The Exiled 20.09.2022. 13:53

Prepakirani Alder Lake tak da bude sigurno radilo s Windows 11 OS + B660 kombinacijom, a na temelju manjih jezgri budu i performanse išle gore gdje god je moguće.:)
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The lower-end non-K offerings will be repurposed Alder Lake dies. The latter consists of the Core i3-13400, i5-13400, i5-13400, i5-13500, and the i5-13600.

robee 20.09.2022. 14:10

Moguce i cijena bude isla malo na gore :)
I trebao bi imati malo bolju gpu?

The Exiled 20.09.2022. 17:50

I dalje bude to varijacija na Alder Lake UHD iGPU temu.

Odinarius 23.09.2022. 09:53

Izgleda da je zagustilo s parama... https://www.anandtech.com/show/17541...ith-brookfield

sfc_PsychQ 26.09.2022. 07:59

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Izgleda da je zagustilo s parama... https://www.anandtech.com/show/17541...ith-brookfield

je, firmi koja radi 80 milijardi dolara godišnje je zagustilo :goood:

Evo malo rumora o ipc-u:https://hothardware.com/news/raptor-...s-ipc-compared

The Exiled 26.09.2022. 08:45

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Autor sfc_PsychQ (Post 3626335)
je, firmi koja radi 80 milijardi dolara godišnje je zagustilo :goood:

Naravno, zato im sad već treći po redu dirketor ne zna na koji način da užica subvencije, dok su istoveremeno izgubili ~30% sveukupnog tržišta, a sve najave su samo na papiru, jer kasne sa apsolutno svime.:)

Osim toga ova vijest je ne samo stara već mjesec dana, nego potvrđena od strane Intela, obzirom da su oni bili izvor za tu informaciju, tak da Intel itekak treba vanjske financije.

sfc_PsychQ 26.09.2022. 10:03

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Autor The Exiled (Post 3626340)
Naravno, zato im sad već treći po redu dirketor ne zna na koji način da užica subvencije, dok su istoveremeno izgubili ~30% sveukupnog tržišta, a sve najave su samo na papiru, jer kasne sa apsolutno svime.:)

Osim toga ova vijest je ne samo stara već mjesec dana, nego potvrđena od strane Intela, obzirom da su oni bili izvor za tu informaciju, tak da Intel itekak treba vanjske financije.

Svatko ko ulaže 20 milijardi dolara treba vanjske financije, nece refinvestirati dobit i narušiti cash flow.

Izgubio tržišnog udjela je, ali je još puno jači:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

O financijama da ne pričamo:
https://www.trefis.com/data/companies/AMD,.INTC/no-login-required/TfU13vlN/Intel-vs-AMD-How-Have-Revenues-Key-Operating-Metrics-Changed-Over-Recent-Years-#:~:text=Intel's%20revenues%20have%20grown%20from,by%20its%20computing%20%26%20graphics%20segment.

S time da:
Intel 2021 Revenue: $79 Billion
AMD 2021 Revenue: $16 Billion

Intel 2021 Profit: $19.9 Billion(samo od ove dobiti je mogao sam financirati novi fab ali bi narušio cash flow što nikome nije u interesu, posebno dok još uvijek možeš dobiti realtivno jeftino financiranje)
AMD 2021 Profit: $3.2 Billion

Intel Total Assets: $168 Billion
AMD Total Assets: $12 Billion

Intel x86 Desktop CPU Market Share: 84%
AMD x86 Desktop CPU Market Share: 16%

Intel x86 Laptop CPU Market Share: 78%
AMD x86 Laptop CPU Market Share: 22%

Intel x86 Server CPU Market Share: 89%
AMD x86 Server CPU Market Share: 11%

Intel has physical Fabs, AMD has none.


I onda uzmeš nvidiju i zbrojiš amd+intel i ona ih pojede par puta sama...

Ali ono nije topic o ekonomiji...

Sigurno komotnu situaciju koju je imao godinama iza jer je bio bez konkurencije neće imati, što je dobro za nas krajnje korisnike jer bi trebali imati bolji i brži hardver za manje love (vidimo da i to pada u vodu u vrijeme ovog divljanja).

The Exiled 26.09.2022. 10:12

Kaj stvarno, linkal si PassMark kao argument za Intelov tržišni udio? OK, ne moramo dalje ništa više pričati. Ne znam kaj se mora desiti da vas nekolicina BUG forum stručnjaka napokon skuži da u Intel preduzeće više ne cvate cveće.

Samo na prošloj stranici ima hrpa materijala da Intel iz kvartala u kvartal ide sve dublje i dublje, ali OK, lakše se pretvarati da je to sve dio jednog velikog plana, jer Intel ovo namjerno radi tak da dobe AMD i ostale na foru.:frend:

Prvo ismijavaš čovjeka, jer je linkal itekakvu činjenicu da Intel sve više ovisi o vanjskim financijama, a onda isto to potkrijepiš, "pa da svatko tko ulaže silne milijarde treba vanjske financije".

Znači Intel istovremeno ima toliko novaca da ne zna kud s njima, a opet žicaju uokolo pare, dok obećavaju brda i dolina, a kasne sa svim u svakom pogledu.


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