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Dečki opet ste počeli sa sranjima po temi gdje politika i teorije zavjere nemaju što tražiti. Tema je predviđena za aktualne vijesti i činjenjenice vezane uz AI, bez obzira jeli one bile pozitivne ili negativne a vi vec o Platonu i porobljavanju drustva. Nek vam admini/modovi otvore posebnu temu samo za fiktivne stvari.

P.S. - ja da sam na vašem mjestu bih se zabrinuo zašto je školski sustav tako loš zadnjih godina kao što je i zašto inteligencija (dakle sposobnost shvaćanja i riješavanja problema na temelju poznatih činjenica) djece zadnjih godina pada u odnosu na razinu recimo bivše Jugoslavije i zašto AI dolazi kao jedno od mogućih riješenja tog problema. Mogli bismo i odrasle tu uključiti možda pogotovo ako uzmemo u obzir da neke firme forsiraju upotrebu AI riješenja unatoč činjenicama i dokazima o kontraproduktivnosti, ali onda već idemo u teški offtopic kojem niti na ovoj temi niti na ovom forumu nije mjesto. Ne treba nam AI da zatruje ljudski mozak krivim ili lažnim informacijama, za to imamo već postojeće medijske platforme, digitalne i papirnate.

P.S. veliki dio razloga zašto djeca danas imaju pojačane kognitivne probleme je 3-4 godine pandemijskog izdrkavanja, zaključavanja, izolacije i sl. Koliko god škole bile loše, ono što od edukacije djeca dobivaju doma je nula. Roditeljima je sve tlaka i ponašaju se kao da im je djecu roda donijela, a bez da su išta tražili.

Naravno da su ultimativni krivci roditelji, kojima je lakše djetetu dati u ruke mobitel nego se pozabaviti s njima i njihovim potrebama, a kasnije prebaciti odgovornost na školu i društvo općenito. Nekada se u osnovnu školu išlo već dobrano pismen, danas dolaze u srednju funkcionalno nepismeni.

Glavni pojedinačni faktori koji uništavaju djecu su konstantan tijek distrakcija koji dolazi iz džepnog uređaja, razni sadržaj kratkog formata, dopaminska povratna veza (lajkanje, pornjava, igre), pretjerana stimulacija, upravljanje raspoloženjem kroz socijalne mreže...

AI tu može samo dodatno napraviti štete ali pitanje je koliko je još ostalo mjesta. Mislim da AI bude ubrzao poglupljivanje odraslih tako da čim prije dođu na razinu novih generacija i to mu je preliminarna svrha.

Amerikancima je nedavno počelo dolaziti do mozga da netko ipak bude morao platiti za potrebne masivne investicije u energetsku infrastrukturu kako bi se omogućio sav taj famozni AI. Ipak je Eric Schmidt zavapio da im treba 100 nuklearki u narednih 5 godina.

https://www.index.hr/mobile/vijesti/...ca_najnovije_m

vidi ovo.. takvu narrow upotrebu nekog pametnog modela podrzavam..

bilo sta drugo opsirnije, ne

ako AI model nije zaključan sa svojim koeficijentima, to će jako brzo ići kvragu. :D

Uostalom, tu ti ne treba AI model, već obična računica. Ali ajd.

Javni natječaj je prevara po definiciji. Nema tu AI što tražiti.

Na granici između AI i privatnosti, odlučio sam staviti ovamo.

https://mk.com.au/from-copyright-dis...e-ai-strategy/

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On 13 May 2025, U.S. Magistrate Judge Ona T. Wang issued a sweeping preservation order requiring OpenAI to “preserve and segregate all output log data that would otherwise be deleted”. This includes:

deleted user conversations
Temporary chats
API-generated outputs

Most importantly, this order applies to all ChatGPT users whether they opted out of data retention or actively deleted their chats and includes enterprise API users. The only users excluded are those who are party to a Zero Data Retention Agreement or ChatGPT Enterprise and Edu plans.

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Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman told The Verge today that the company plans to transform Edge into an "agentic browser" where Copilot controls tabs, navigates websites and completes tasks while users watch. Unlike The Browser Company's new Dia browser, Microsoft will integrate these capabilities directly into Edge.

Suleyman described Copilot opening tabs, reading multiple pages simultaneously and performing research transparently in real-time. The AI visits websites directly, preserving publisher traffic. Current Copilot features include tab navigation, page scrolling and content highlighting. Users will have the option to disable AI features entirely. Suleyman predicted that within years, AI companions will handle most browsing tasks while users provide oversight and feedback.

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Microsoft is reportedly discussing with select US publishers a pilot program for its so-called Publisher Content Marketplace, a system that pays publishers for their content when it gets used by AI products, starting with its own Copilot assistant. The PCM will launch with a limited number of partners before Microsoft hopes to expand the program over time. The company pitched the idea to publishing executives at an invite-only Partner Summit in Monaco last week. Microsoft was allegedly courting them with the message: "You deserve to be paid on the quality of your IP." No concrete launch date for the pilot was shared.

As Axios notes, Microsoft is the first major company to try to build a proper AI marketplace for publishers. Other AI labs like OpenAI have mostly focused on securing one-off licensing deals instead of building a platform for ongoing transactions. Companies like Cloudflare are also working on a more technical, network-level solution to this problem.

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Large language models excel at producing grammatically correct sentences but often stumble on accuracy and clarity. Without human review, their outputs create more confusion than progress. This workslop shifts effort downstream, bogging down the very workplace processes AI is supposed to make faster and more efficient.
Modern workplaces are increasingly adopting artificial intelligence, promising speed, efficiency, and innovation. However, the reality is often messier in practice. Many companies feel pressured to adopt AI quickly, worried that failing to do so will leave them behind competitors. Yet work produced by AI can create more correction and confusion than it saves, a phenomenon Harvard Business Review (HBR) has termed "workslop."

> Techspot

LoLz :lol2:

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Minutes after vandalizing 17 cars in a Missouri college parking lot, a 19-year-old sophomore had a lengthy ChatGPT conversation during which he confessed to the crime, asked about the possibility of getting caught, and wondered, "is there any way they could know it was me," according to a police probable cause statement. Ryan Schaefer was arrested yesterday and charged with felony property damage for a rampage early Sunday at a Missouri State University parking lot. Investigators allege that Schaefer shattered car windows, ripped off side mirrors, dented hoods, and broke windshield wipers during the 3 AM spree.

When confronted with surveillance footage and other evidence, Schaefer said that he could see the resemblance between the suspect and himself. At that point, Schaefer reportedly consented to a search of his iPhone. A subsequent review of the device revealed location data placing Schaefer "at or near the scene of the crime," as well as a "troubling dialogue exchange this defendant seems to have had with artificial intelligence software installed on his phone," prosecutors reported.
The incriminating ChatGPT conversation can be found here.

Ovaj 3i Atlas treba skrenuti prema Zemlji, sve poravnati i da trava samo raste

Nema šta, ovo baš zvuči kao vrlo uvjerljivo opravdanje sveopćeg praćenja. Nisi uništio 17 auta? Nema veze, bitno da znamo gdje si i šta si. Nikad se ne zna što možemo naći naknadno.

"Testiram" ponekad AI sa ovako trivijalnim pitanjima, i nije mi jasno zasto grijesi.
https://i.ibb.co/TxY7cQ97/image.png

Veliko je pitanje što "AI" "zna" o tekućim događajima a što samo generira da bi tebi bilo ljepše (dok ne provjeriš točnost odgovora).

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The book Life 3.0 remembers a 2017 conversation where Alphabet CEO Larry Page "made a 'passionate' argument for the idea that 'digital life is the natural and desirable next step' in 'cosmic evolution'," remembers an essay in the Wall Street Journal. "Restraining the rise of digital minds would be wrong, Page contended. Leave them off the leash and let the best minds win..."

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"As it turns out, Larry Page isn't the only top industry figure untroubled by the possibility that AIs might eventually push humanity aside. It is a niche position in the AI world but includes influential believers. Call them the Cheerful Apocalyptics... "
I first encountered such views a couple of years ago through my X feed, when I saw a retweet of a post from Richard Sutton. He's an eminent AI researcher at the University of Alberta who in March received the Turing Award, the highest award in computer science... [Sutton had said if AI becomes smarter than people — and then can be more powerful — why shouldn't it be?] Sutton told me AIs are different from other human inventions in that they're analogous to children. "When you have a child," Sutton said, "would you want a button that if they do the wrong thing, you can turn them off? That's much of the discussion about AI. It's just assumed we want to be able to control them." But suppose a time came when they didn't like having humans around? If the AIs decided to wipe out humanity, would he be at peace with that? "I don't think there's anything sacred about human DNA," Sutton said. "There are many species — most of them go extinct eventually. We are the most interesting part of the universe right now. But might there come a time when we're no longer the most interesting part? I can imagine that.... If it was really true that we were holding the universe back from being the best universe that it could, I think it would be OK..."

I wondered, how common is this idea among AI people? I caught up with Jaron Lanier, a polymathic musician, computer scientist and pioneer of virtual reality. In an essay in the New Yorker in March, he mentioned in passing that he had been hearing a "crazy" idea at AI conferences: that people who have children become excessively committed to the human species. He told me that in his experience, such sentiments were staples of conversation among AI researchers at dinners, parties and anyplace else they might get together. (Lanier is a senior interdisciplinary researcher at Microsoft but does not speak for the company.)"There's a feeling that people can't be trusted on this topic because they are infested with a reprehensible mind virus, which causes them to favor people over AI when clearly what we should do is get out of the way." We should get out of the way, that is, because it's unjust to favor humans — and because consciousness in the universe will be superior if AIs supplant us. "The number of people who hold that belief is small," Lanier said, "but they happen to be positioned in stations of great influence. So it's not something one can ignore...."

You may be thinking to yourself: If killing someone is bad, and if mass murder is very bad, then the extinction of humanity must be very, very bad — right? What this fails to understand, according to the Cheerful Apocalyptics, is that when it comes to consciousness, silicon and biology are merely different substrates. Biological consciousness is of no greater worth than the future digital variety, their theory goes... While the Cheerful Apocalyptics sometimes write and talk in purely descriptive terms about humankind's future doom, two value judgments in their doctrines are unmissable.The first is a distaste, at least in the abstract, for the human body. Rather than seeing its workings as awesome, in the original sense of inspiring awe, they view it as a slow, fragile vessel, ripe for obsolescence... The Cheerful Apocalyptics' larger judgment is a version of the age-old maxim that "might makes right"...

Nisam bio siguran dal bih postao ili ne ali reportaza je jednostavno predobra da bih ovo ignorirao. Original je dostupan samo na njemackom i francuskom jeziku.

TLDR: "AI" Trening nije samo ono sto mislimo da je. Radnike na Madagaskaru placaju 1 Euro za 3 sata ucenja AI alata. Neznam kolko su ove informacije poznate al eto ja nisam imao pojma o ovoj vrsti treniranja AI alata.

Pa ja sam iskreno mislio da je to općepoznato u ovim krugovima. Nisam znao za radnike na Madagaskaru konkretno, ali znam da plaćaju jeftinu radnu snagu po svijetu da im dovede AI slop koliko toliko u red s gradacijom kvalitete odgovara. Eksploatacija jeftine radne snage + brutalno licemjerje vezano za to gdje su dobili podatke za obradu, AI in a nutshell.

Pa meni je prijatelj, tj zena mu, kao side hustle na porodiljnom neke slike za ai ima vise od 3 godine. Nije bilo tako lose placeno ali bilo je par eura sat, i cisto koliko odradis, mozes sat mozes 8.

nije smiješno, Neo.
Pitaj Sheldona, reći će ti da je ovaj humor ispod tebe.

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Autor Ivo_Strojnica (Post 3824638)

nije smiješno, Neo.
Pitaj Sheldona, reći će ti da je ovaj humor ispod tebe.

Da sam ja Neo i čujem to, vjerojatno bih odgovorio hladno i kratko, u svom stilu 😅, nešto tipa:

„Ako je humor ispod mene, možda je i tvoj svijet samo još jedna iluzija.“

ili „Sheldon živi u sitcomu, ja u Matriksu. Odaberi kojem svijetu vjeruješ.“

ili minimalistički, baš „neoovski“: „Tada ću promijeniti pravila.“

Hoćeš da probam sastaviti najbolji comeback baš kao da je scena u Matrixu, sa Sheldonom ubačenim u Matrix svijet?

čekaj da pitam svog prijatelja. :D

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Autor tomek@vz (Post 3823787)

LoLz :lol2:

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Minutes after vandalizing 17 cars in a Missouri college parking lot, a 19-year-old sophomore had a lengthy ChatGPT conversation...

Umjetna inteligencija i prirodna neinteligencija.

Preporučujem svima da pogledaju film Idiocracy.

Sjajna satira o budućnosti bez pameti. :goood:

Chatanje s aplikacijama. Kod nas u EU sve naravno kasni.

https://youtu.be/2C4Cs6503gw

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Autor Neo-ST (Post 3824630)

:roller:

Morao sam ovo prosljediti, ovo je next level!:dobar:

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Autor Piksa (Post 3824668)

Chatanje s aplikacijama. Kod nas u EU sve naravno kasni.

https://youtu.be/2C4Cs6503gw

brutalica bome.

Logično objašnjenje zašto nešto što je tako nije tako. Doublethink za čistu peticu.

ma to su stari dečki.
Moj je pametniji :)

Moj je blago retardiran.
ChatGPT 5.