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Staro 25.07.2007., 08:50   #31
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Malo pitanjce 965 + quad? Kak to ide?
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Staro 25.07.2007., 14:02   #32
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Malo pitanjce 965 + quad? Kak to ide?
ide normalno. Malo(1-2%) su bolje performanse na P35 te se da više OCat ali inače
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Staro 25.07.2007., 14:31   #33
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Staro 25.07.2007., 15:11   #34
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Super, za godinu dana idem na quad
Da te obradujem, sve Asus P965 ploce podrzavaju i Penryn. Izasli su novi BIOS-i za to.
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Staro 25.07.2007., 21:38   #35
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Yep, cak i neke 975X ploce

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Staro 26.07.2007., 22:59   #36
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Mali OT. Malo sam zbunjen Negdje čitam da 680i ploče neće podržavati 45nm proceve (Penryne), a negdje kažu da će ići 100%. Može mi netko dati točnu informaciju? Hvala
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Bome nebih znao, ali nije valjda da imas 680i plocu?
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Staro 28.07.2007., 02:13   #38
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Evo iskopah točnu informaciju, da će biti podrške za Penryna

@SU - Nemam , zaš? To neš loše?

Šalu na stranu, imam neku mogućnost u vezi reklamacije (uz manju nadoplatu), pa sam si i to imao na umu
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Pa nis nuzno lose, ali nikad nisam vidio smisla u 680i plocama, osim ako je netko stvarno teski zagrizenjak za SLI i ima opako viska love. Uz standardne nVidijine iritantne musice i SLI, ne vidim nista extra sto nude u odnosu na ergelu sa Intel chipsetima
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Staro 28.07.2007., 02:22   #40
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Ma znam, kako rekoh imao sam to samo u vidu zbog minimalne nadoplate spram DS4. Naime, izbor je ograničen samo na Ve-Mil, tako da sam imao na izbor hrpetinu Gigabyte ploča (koja mi je već treći put riknula ). Na kraju mislim da ce biti P35 DS4 bez nadoplate, čini se.
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Pa sta radis ti tim jadnim plocama
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Pa niš, ja sam samo upalio i nije radilo
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(koja mi je već treći put riknula )
daj reci koja je to ploca 3 puta riknula kod tebe
da je znam zaobic u velikom luku
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daj reci koja je to ploca 3 puta riknula kod tebe
da je znam zaobic u velikom luku
Gigabyte GA-965P DS4

Najbolje je to što u servisu kažu da je to baš čudno jer je to jedina DS4 koja je imala toliko reklamacija, čak štoviše, čini se da GB-ice nisu česte na servisu
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A jesi siguran da nisu rikavale zbog nekih losih uvjeta rada?
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Staro 28.07.2007., 13:20   #46
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Nebih rekao, u kućištu ima dobrog propuha. A i sa komponentama postupam s oprezom, ako misliš na to.
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Malo OT ali koja je ploča bolja za quad, GB P35-DQ6 illi P5K deluxe?
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Staro 28.07.2007., 13:26   #48
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Nebih rekao, u kućištu ima dobrog propuha. A i sa komponentama postupam s oprezom, ako misliš na to.
Ma vise sam ciljao na mozda losije napajanje, los napon mreze opcenito u kuci, probijanje kakvog napona na kucistu i slicno...
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Staro 28.07.2007., 13:26   #49
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ma nema to veze,kod mene je ova placa od Asusa vec 4 puta riknula,3 puta mi je Pci slot ostiso a jednom zvucna i otkako sam dobio drugu seriju sve je ok!!
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@Filip - Nije OT, ova naša gore priča oko moje ploče je OT

U vezi pitanja - čuj između te dvije prije bih išao na Asusa, ali ne na skupu Dlx-icu već na P5K-E WiFi verziju ploče.

Ako bi išao na GB, onda ti je i DS4 i više nego dovoljna, a jeftinija je 300kn

@SU - a neznam, instalacije u kući su nove, napajanje je dosta dobro rekao bih (Tagan 430W). Al na to sam baš i bio pomišljao da bi moglo imati veze, jer su ostale komponente konstantno mijenjane, tako da sumnjam da je nešto drugo problem.
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evo, sve slozeno.. quad i ploca... ALI?
prema everestu u cpuz-u, procesor mijenja frekvencije.... da li je to uobicajeno ili sto? ili to samo ovaj procesor..
malo bude na 1,6 pa skoci na 2,4 i tako.. jeli to neki problem ili on stvarno tako radi? pozz
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Isključi EIST i C1E u biosu, dotični ti spuštaju množitelj i voltažu u idleu.

Ajde baci neke reze, si clockao to?
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To se zove Intel Speedstep, mijenja frekvenciju ovisno o opterecenju i stedi struju, ne znam zasto bi to htio ugasiti? Ako bas zelis, udji u BIOS i ugasi opcije EIST i C1E. Nego, daj procitaj revision iz CPU-Za.
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Evo ocitavnje iz everesta i cpu-z,malo su temp.visoke po mom sta vi mislite!
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Odlične reze i to na deafultu

Inače temperature ti baš i nisu sjajne, jel to sa box coolerom?
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Ne,sa Zalmanom 9500!!Probo sam ga i skidati i ponovo satavljati ali opet isto mislio sam da nije dobro nasjeo ali opet isto!!
Moguce je da senzor gadno laze jer sam stavljo ruku iza cpu i ide hladan zrak!!
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Stavi ruku na heatpipeove i bazu coolera, pa probaj, jesi probao sa box coolerom kakave su temp, čisto radi orijentacije?
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Hladan je i cooler i haetpipovy,nisam probo box cooler ai neda mi se sad to sve vaditi van!!Kolika je dozvoljena temp quda do koje smije ici!
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Općenito nije poželjno da temp prelazi 65C u loadu, a tebi je ~55C u idleu, što i nije baš bajno.

Evo, usporedbe radi, Daddy-u sa quadom i Big Typhoonom temp u idleu su ~40-45C (ovisno o jezgri).

Možda ti je HS ili baza coolera konkavna
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