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Staro 28.07.2022., 22:36   #5551
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Staro 29.07.2022., 11:35   #5552
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53 milijarde dolara poreznih obveznika:
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/...manufacturing/

Dobitnici ... Intel i GloFlo, većim dijelom Intel. U isto vrijeme, onu babuskaru Pelosi će na Taiwan pratiti cijela sedma flota:

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“She’s not going to go with an armada,” Pavel said.

They also said that a stepped-up U.S. military presence to safeguard Pelosi risked raising tensions.
No shit!

Rekao bih da ovaj deal Nvidiju i AMD stavlja u prilično glup položaj, a dugoročno mogu popušiti Taiwan zbog geopolitičkih razloga.

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Staro 29.07.2022., 11:58   #5553
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Međunarodni incident na pomolu, ali lako za to, glavno da je Intel startup dobil prijeko potrebne dinare. Izuzev nVidije i AMD-a, puno drugih (američkih) firmi bude pogođeno, ako ovi zakuhaju situaciju s Kinom i Tajvanom.

Opet s druge strane, ne kužim kak ne vide da silne milijarde koje idu Intelu nisu ama baš nikakva garancija za uspješnu domaću proizvodnju, kad se ta firma gubi u vlastitom voCtvu i planovima.

Konstantne izmjene kratkoročnih i dugoročnih najava i realizacija su sad već standardni dio paketa u koji je uključena obavezna promjena generalnog direktora svakih par godina.

Od 2006. do 2017. je bilo super i puna šaka brade, ali sad je i više, nego očito da konkretnog plana nije bilo. Išlo se za tim da AMD nestane, a oni nastave dalje ubirati po provjerenom quad-core receptu.
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Staro 29.07.2022., 15:15   #5554
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Intel, Micron i Analog Devices u „službi”
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Međunarodni incident na pomolu, ali lako za to, glavno da je Intel startup dobil prijeko potrebne dinare. Izuzev nVidije i AMD-a, puno drugih (američkih) firmi bude pogođeno, ako ovi zakuhaju situaciju s Kinom i Tajvanom.

Opet s druge strane, ne kužim kak ne vide da silne milijarde koje idu Intelu nisu ama baš nikakva garancija za uspješnu domaću proizvodnju, kad se ta firma gubi u vlastitom voCtvu i planovima.

Konstantne izmjene kratkoročnih i dugoročnih najava i realizacija su sad već standardni dio paketa u koji je uključena obavezna promjena generalnog direktora svakih par godina.

Od 2006. do 2017. je bilo super i puna šaka brade, ali sad je i više, nego očito da konkretnog plana nije bilo. Išlo se za tim da AMD nestane, a oni nastave dalje ubirati po provjerenom quad-core receptu.
Manje bitno u igri je geopolitika i nacionalni interes --> Intel, Micron i Analog Devices u „službi”
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Staro 29.07.2022., 15:28   #5555
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Igre samo takve, posebice nakon nekoliko desetljeća "domoće proizvodnje" na drugom kraju svijeta, pa hajde da se sad sve vrati kod nas.

Iskreno, kak je krenulo - Pat Gelsinger, Raja Koduri, Ryan Shrout i sl. društvo bi začas mogli dobiti zamjene. I onda opet nova garnitura najavljuje svoje.
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Intel let the chips fall where they might
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This day always comes. It is the nature of monopoly and hubris.

It came for IBM. It came for Microsoft, and it is coming for Facebook. It will come for Google and, even though it is hard to believe, it will come for Amazon. And it is most assuredly coming for Intel right now, and it is probably going to get worse. Maybe not as bad as IBM in the early 1990s – because nothing was worse than that self-inflicted and self-described “near-death experience,” where Big Blue had the biggest write-offs in corporate history and eventually had to lay off half of its 400,000 workforce – but most assuredly for Intel, bad nonetheless.

Intel’s problems are not intractable, but they are incredibly expensive to fix, which is why the company is panhandling for money in the halls of the US Congress and in the corridors of power in Brussels, and why it is reportedly considering hooking up with private equity and hedge fund firms to raise the money to revitalize its foundries and therefore, it is hoped, its central compute engine business that, quite frankly, Intel’s former top brass took for granted. But it is worse than that. The chip design part of Intel took the foundry business as a given and the foundry part of Intel took the chip design business as a given, and AMD, the Arm collective (including homegrown Arm chips from cloud builders), and Nvidia have been doing all of the real taking – mostly of market share in compute. Given the roadmaps Intel has laid out and the substantial competition Intel is facing, they are going to keep taking it out of Intel’s hide as they ramp up new chippery and spend money to buy more manufacturing capacity from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.
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Staro 30.07.2022., 11:13   #5556
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AMD passes Intel in market cap
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Staro 30.07.2022., 13:33   #5557
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AMD passes Intel in market cap
Isusati šta ćemo još doživjet.
Zato sto su se monopolom uquadirali (4 cores) i uljenili, a potrosaci nisu imali bolju opciju.

Amd kao underdog pred bankrotom je postao kreativan jer je vidio da nije vise šala, tehnologija i trgovina su utrke koje nemaju predaha i kraja.
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Staro 30.07.2022., 13:56   #5558
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Da nije tragikomično, možda bi mi bilo žao, ali onda se sjetim da je riječ o firmi koja je svojevremeno kvartalno plaćala stotine milijuna OEM ekipi samo da ne nude AMD opciju, općenito imaju stav najboljiJi smo, nema nitko jači, dok sve oko njh gori, a oni u rukama drže šibicu i kanister benzina. Otkad se AMD vratil s ruba propasti, u Intelu su odmah brže-bolje probali ići u ofenzivu dobrim starim provjernim metodama u kontekstu zalijepljenih procesora, ali nažalost nije prošlo, konkurencija ne samo da nije nestala preko noći, nego se još i namnožila u pogledu ARM, nVidia, Samsung i TSMC natjecatelja.

Unatrag pet godina prošli su kroz tri generalna direktora od kojih svaki priča veće šprancirane bedastoće od prethodnika, izgubili su kakvih 30% sveukupnog tržišta, a sad kad više ni rekordne zarade nisu zagarantirane, okreću se državnim poticajima i subvencijama, jer "domaća proizvodnja" im je bitnija od svega. ARC GPU je fijasko u realnom vremenu, kasne apsolutno sa svim mogućim najavama, dok istovremeno pričaju o nasljednicima nečega kaj nije, a vrlo vjerojatno i ne bude stiglo na tržište u obećanom obliku. U slučaju da stigne, opet kasne kakvih generaciju do dvije u odnosu na konkurenciju. Tak da, sami su si krivi za sve kaj ih je snašlo, jer nemreš 10 godina sjediti na rukama i onda kad voda dođe do grla, početi mahnito najavljivati hrpu toga kaj konkurencija već ima u ponudi i nadati se će se sve riješiti samo od sebe, jer u pitanju je Intel.

I za razliku od AMD-a, sumnjam da bude Intel u vrijeme kad je stvarno teško, krenul s uistinu inovativnim rješenjma, ali OK, možda se stvarno trgnu, potjeraju sadašnje voCtvo i krenu s friškom postavom.


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Intel Core i7-13700K & Core i5-13600K Raptor Lake CPUs Gaming Benchmarks
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The 13th Gen Core series will get more Efficient (Gracemont) cores, higher clocks and higher power PL1/PL2 levels. While the higher core count provides a boost in multi-threaded apps, it’s mainly the high clock and higher maximum TDP that allows the 13th Gen Core to offer better performance, especially in games. While average framerate has only increased by 7 to 12% at FHD resolution, the minimum framerates certainly did improve for all resolution. This is a 11% to 14% improvement for FHD. So it looks like the Core i7-13700K is around 5% faster on average than its predecessor while the bigger cache and higher clocks help it maintain an 11.82% higher minimum framerate. The Intel Core i5-13600K was also tested through the same gaming selection and yielded 6% better performance than its predecessor with 12.4% faster minimum FPS on average.
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Intel had to respin Sapphire Rapids CPU for volume launch
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Intel disclosed during its earnings call on Thursday that it had to respin its 4th Generation Xeon Scalable 'Sapphire Rapids' processor before initiating high-volume production. This redesign and tapeout took time, which is why Intel is delaying the volume ramp of SPR CPUs to late 2022. As it turns out, Intel's previous iteration of its next-generation Xeon Scalable 'Sapphire Rapids' processor had a security vulnerability that required mitigation in hardware. As a consequence, Intel had to respin the CPU, mend the issue, tape out the new stepping, and then proceed with regular testing and validation procedures. This naturally postponed the volume launch of the product. Some Intel customers (probably among operators of hyperscale datacenters) are already running initial Sapphire Rapids processors unaffected by the security issue (perhaps because they come with certain features turned off). Intel admits that its Sapphire Rapids processors are late to the party, and they will be widely available only in 2023.
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TSMC completes construction of 5nm Fab 21 in Arizona
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TSMC recently held a topping-out ceremony for its Fab 21 near Phoenix, Arizona, to celebrate the completion of the construction, which progressed at breakneck speeds from March 2021 to July 2022. With the building ready, it is time for TSMC to install supplementary equipment and then move in semiconductor production tools. Now that the fab shell is complete, TSMC will need to install various anti-vibration devices, wiring, sewerage, ventilation, air conditioning, and so on. Once everything is ready, it will start equipping its cleanroom with various fab equipment, including scanners, etching, deposition, resist removal, metrology, and inspection tools, just to name a few. TSMC's Fab 21 is expected to start production in early 2024. Its initial capacity will be 20,000 wafer starts per month (WSPM) on TSMC's N5 (5nm-class) nodes. Meanwhile, the foundry's 1,100-acre site will be able to host additional phases of the fab, bringing the manufacturing capacity of the campus to around 100,000 wafers if there is enough demand for chips produced by the company. The cost of the current phase is estimated to be between $10 billion and $12 billion.
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Never Ending Story: Intel’s Sapphire Rapids (maybe) comes in the 12th Stepping
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Intel’s new Xeons, i.e. the scalable server processors of the 4th generation, are delayed again. Once again, one might say, and the reasons are very diverse. The problems and errors are collected under NDA in internal documents (“so called NDA sights”) and currently amount to almost 500 (!) entries, with the trend continuing to rise. With a total of 12 (!) steppings, they haven’t exactly covered themselves with glory either, and I can’t remember any project so far that needed so many steppings before you could even use it to some extent. This started with A0 and A1, then proceeded via B0, C0, C1, C2, D0, E0, E2, E3 and E4 until currently stepping E5! The market launch was planned about 1.5 years ago and the plan was recently updated again. Sapphire Rapids was originally supposed to compete against AMD’s Epyc Milan processors, but due to the delay, they now have to compete against AMD’s newer Genoa lineup.
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Staro 02.08.2022., 14:56   #5559
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Đizus krajst..12! iteracija procesora i još imaju 500 bugova, odron samo takav.. Epyc Genoa će ih doslovno pomesti a ovaj šrot neće tako skoro u prodaju.
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Izuzev nadolazećih Raptor Lake modela, sve ostalo je nažalost pod jako velikim upitnikom. Izgleda da kaj god Intel i popratno voCtvo taknu, jednostavno ne urodi plodom, pa je odgođeno ili kompletno otkazano.
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Intel: Trouble in the IDM 2.0 paradise?
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It’s easy to blame predecessors, but wasn’t Gelsinger tasked to take Intel out of trouble when he was given the reins of this iconic semiconductor outfit in early 2021? What happened? Gelsinger’s transformative plan to turn Intel into a contract manufacturer for semiconductor devices is taking its toll. Even on that foundry frontier, which the company calls IDM 2.0, it’s worrisome that Intel plans to cut capital-expenditure plans for next year by $4 billion. That, for a st