Postupak nanošenja termalne paste i ostala pitanja - Stranica 13

Laszlo · 20.05.2015., 11:57

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Autor Garro

Ako trebaš thermal padove, pravac http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g8/T...Interface.html

Od njih sam nekoliko puta naručivao, brzi su i kvalitetni. Moja preporuka su Fujipoly Ultra Extreme padovi, dvije klase bolji od ovih AC-ova (koji su, ruku na srce, neka kvalitetna srednja klasa).

Jedan pad je u blisteru?

Garro · 20.05.2015., 12:18

Ne, ekipa sa FrozenCPUa ima dosta velike sheetove tih padova, pa ih režu (osim ako ne kupiš cijeli sheet). Uglavnom, piše ti veličina pada koju dobiješ, imaš raznih dimenzija (za memorijske čipove, za VRM...). Jedino ne zaboravi da i shipping nešto košta.

edit: i naravno, sve dođe propisno zapakirano i zaštićeno.

Blue Spirit · 21.08.2015., 11:08

Average CPU Load temperature: 87.5
Ambient: 24.9

Delta: 62.6

After delid (Cool Laboratory Liquid Pro between Die and IHS):

Average CPU Load temperature: 69
Ambient: 24.6

Delta: 44.4

As you can see, With a "simple" thermal grease swap, the temperatures droped by an average of 18.2 C while using 1.312 volts.

https://youtu.be/WhvqhRlIf9U?t=1m55s

7.18 € http://coollaboratory.com/shop/produ...products_id/26

7.9 € https://www.caseking.de/coollaborato...-zuwa-026.html

Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - novija pasta istog proizvođača

After the overwhelming success of the Liquid Pro, the new Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra was developed. Of course the Liquid Ultra is also made of 100% metal, but it has an absolute new usability and offers an outstanding performance. Due to the paste-like texture the application is now very easy.
Please notice that the Liquid Ultra is not suitable with the usage of aluminum surfaces.
The Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra is available in retail package which includes beside the Liquid Ultra, a printed manual, a brush and a cleaning set (with cleaning tissues and metal grinding pad).

Test Liquid Ultra vs Liquid Pro

source: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2297140

3770K @ 4.7GHz 1.224v (de-lidded)

3770K @ 5GHz 1.416v (de-lidded)

This time Liquid Pro was 1.71c cooler than Ultra.

If we use a +/- 2c margin of error there is nothing separating these two compounds. Liquid Ultra is better to work with. I wouldn't use the cotton tips that are supplied with Liquid Pro because I found more compound stayed on the cotton than on the IHS. Also there is the risk of cotton fibers sticking to the die or IHS which would impact temps. I used the brush that is supplied with Liquid Ultra which makes the application very easy.

Cleaning is another issue. Liquid Ultra simply wipes off but Liquid Pro often forms tiny balls which when accidentally smeared leaves quite a big mess. I had the stuff all over my fingers by the time I finished wiping it off.

If you are using one or the other than stick with it. There is nothing to gain by switching.

Arctic Cooling MX-4 vs IC Diamond vs Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra

testing subject: Alienware M14x R1 Laptop

The specs:

i7-2760qm | 6 GB RAM| 750 GB HDD | 1.5GB GT555M |

Cloker · 21.08.2015., 18:06

^^
+1

Koristim je

Inace je CLP bolji od MX-4 ravno za 8C,probao licno na nekoliko socketa...

JuiceBox · 21.08.2015., 18:16

I zaboravili ste jednu bitnu stvar, nakon nekog vremena se "zavari". Dakle skida se samo i iskljucivo smirglanjem

Neka hvala, shin-etsu radi svoj posao kao zmaj

Cloker · 21.08.2015., 18:25

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Autor xulos

I zaboravili ste jednu bitnu stvar, nakon nekog vremena se "zavari". Dakle skida se samo i iskljucivo smirglanjem

Neka hvala, shin-etsu radi svoj posao kao zmaj

Skinuo sam posle mesec dana sa sundjerom koji dolazi u pakovanju sa pastom,naravno treba malo vise ali se skine za 2-3min

Prethodno malo ugrejes CPU nekim testom i ide odlicno...

Ovo pisem za stavljanje izmedju baze culera i CPU-a,a za ispod IHS-a,ako vec skidam poklopac nema sta vise da je skidam ...dok god traje CPU

JuiceBox · 21.08.2015., 22:00

Mjesec dana. Tko od nas mjenja pastu svakih mjesec dana ?

Brko · 21.08.2015., 22:08

Kupio sam onu veliku špricu Arctic Cooling Ceramique2 na ebayu za 80kn. Napuljkao sam tonu procova sa njom.
Pred mjesec dana sam nakon 3 godine skinuo VXa sa 2600K i pasta još nije bila tvrda ni skorena. Lagano sam ju skinuo sa papirnatim ručnikom.
Ponovno sam nju stavio i bog te veseli sljedeće 3 godine...

Ovo za mjenjanje svakih mjesec dana mi je uljepšalo dan, moram priznat

syss · 21.08.2015., 22:11

ac ceramique koristim već stvarno dugo i baš to... apsolutno joj ništa nemre zub vremena.

Brko · 21.08.2015., 22:20

Tubice od 2g su bile u vemulju po 30kn. A ja sam uzeo krmaču od šprice za manje od 80kn. I to je već imam godinama i tek sam na pola šprice

A kad puljkam, ne štedim. Nasaftam tako da pokrije cijelu kapu a opet da ne curi sa strane.

Cloker · 21.08.2015., 22:51

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Autor xulos

Mjesec dana. Tko od nas mjenja pastu svakih mjesec dana ?

Zavisi ko kako,menjao sam da vidim da li moze da se skine,neko ni komp ne otvori po godinu i vise,ko sto rekoh zavisi ko sta radi i ceme se igra

Blue Spirit · 21.08.2015., 23:21

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Autor xulos

I zaboravili ste jednu bitnu stvar, nakon nekog vremena se "zavari". Dakle skida se samo i iskljucivo smirglanjem

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Autor Cloker

Skinuo sam posle mesec dana sa sundjerom koji dolazi u pakovanju sa pastom,naravno treba malo vise ali se skine za 2-3min

Ovo pisem za stavljanje izmedju baze culera i CPU-a,a za ispod IHS-a,ako vec skidam poklopac nema sta vise da je skidam ...dok god traje CPU

Kao i clocker koji ju skinuo malo teze al ipak je, i ovom covi je isla pasta dolje ...

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Autor RaneZ

Meni se zaljepio nakon 6 mjeseci tako fino kuler za proc da sam skoro potrgo pinove prilikom izvlacenja.
Nisam nikad guglo jel to normlano za tu pastu ili sam mozda ja pehista.

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Autor Cloker

Prethodno malo ugrejes CPU nekim testom i ide odlicno...

U tom grmu lezi zec

Mislim da oni koji stave malo vise paste, da je ju lakse ociste jer se teze zapece , ne znam kako drukcije objasnit oprecne informcije ?!

Slobodno me ispravite ako sam u krivu (lose procitao, shvatio, napisao).

Sve sto govorite (sto navode sajtovi a i vi) o teskom skidanju paste vezano je za Liquid PRO koji ima narancasti poklopac sprice.

Cleaning is another issue. Liquid Ultra simply wipes off but Liquid Pro often forms tiny balls which when accidentally smeared leaves quite a big mess.
I had the stuff all over my fingers by the time I finished wiping it off.

Liquid ULTRA takodjer dolazi od istog proizvođača u sprici sa plavim poklopcom
- po performansama je bolja od Liquid PRO
- smjesa je vise nalik pasti
- lako se cisti

Liquid Ultra is rated at 38.4w/mk and Liquid Pro is rated at 32.6w/mk

Na papiru Liquid Ultra je 18% bolja

Znaci obje paste dolaze od istog proizvođača
- istih su ili slicnih performansi

Liquid PRO - " tekuce forme " , teze se cisti

Liquid ULTRA - "pasta like" , lako se cisti

Test : Liquid Ultra vs Liquid Pro

21.08.2015., 11:08	#363
Blue Spirit Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Apr 2004 Lokacija: ZG - Dubrava Postovi: 2,137	Average CPU Load temperature: 87.5 Ambient: 24.9 Delta: 62.6 After delid (Cool Laboratory Liquid Pro between Die and IHS): Average CPU Load temperature: 69 Ambient: 24.6 Delta: 44.4 As you can see, With a "simple" thermal grease swap, the temperatures droped by an average of 18.2 C while using 1.312 volts. https://youtu.be/WhvqhRlIf9U?t=1m55s 7.18 € http://coollaboratory.com/shop/produ...products_id/26 7.9 € https://www.caseking.de/coollaborato...-zuwa-026.html Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - novija pasta istog proizvođača After the overwhelming success of the Liquid Pro, the new Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra was developed. Of course the Liquid Ultra is also made of 100% metal, but it has an absolute new usability and offers an outstanding performance. Due to the paste-like texture the application is now very easy. Please notice that the Liquid Ultra is not suitable with the usage of aluminum surfaces. The Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra is available in retail package which includes beside the Liquid Ultra, a printed manual, a brush and a cleaning set (with cleaning tissues and metal grinding pad). Test Liquid Ultra vs Liquid Pro source: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2297140 3770K @ 4.7GHz 1.224v (de-lidded) 3770K @ 5GHz 1.416v (de-lidded) This time Liquid Pro was 1.71c cooler than Ultra. If we use a +/- 2c margin of error there is nothing separating these two compounds. Liquid Ultra is better to work with. I wouldn't use the cotton tips that are supplied with Liquid Pro because I found more compound stayed on the cotton than on the IHS. Also there is the risk of cotton fibers sticking to the die or IHS which would impact temps. I used the brush that is supplied with Liquid Ultra which makes the application very easy. Cleaning is another issue. Liquid Ultra simply wipes off but Liquid Pro often forms tiny balls which when accidentally smeared leaves quite a big mess. I had the stuff all over my fingers by the time I finished wiping it off. If you are using one or the other than stick with it. There is nothing to gain by switching. Arctic Cooling MX-4 vs IC Diamond vs Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra testing subject: Alienware M14x R1 Laptop The specs: i7-2760qm \| 6 GB RAM\| 750 GB HDD \| 1.5GB GT555M \| --> Top pasta za hlađenje Coollaboratory Liquid Pro Coollaboratory Liquid Pro is the first heat conducting medium, which is worthy of its name. It is the first heat conduction paste that consists of 100% liquid metal alloy. It is liquid at room temperature (like mercury), but it is absolutly nontoxic and has a high moistening ability for several materials. The Coollaboratory Liquid Pro is especially recommend for nickel-plated copper. Coollaboratory Liquid Pro contain no non-metallic additives (like silicone, oxides etc.) at all. It also does not contain any solid particles. Due to these properties, Coollaboratory Liquid Pro surpasses the best high performance heat conducting pastes by a multiple. Temps with Delidded CPU ! Liquid Pro + delid = do 20C dolje source: http://www.pcper.com/news/Processors...6700K-Delidded 4770K @ 4,3 GHz 1.312 V source : http://www.overclock.net/t/1397672/deliding-a-4770k-haswell-improving-temperatures-and-maximizing-overclockablity Before delid: Average CPU Load temperature: 87.5 Ambient: 24.9 Delta: 62.6 After delid (Cool Laboratory Liquid Pro between Die and IHS): Average CPU Load temperature: 69 Ambient: 24.6 Delta: 44.4 As you can see, With a "simple" thermal grease swap, the temperatures droped by an average of 18.2 C while using 1.312 volts. https://youtu.be/WhvqhRlIf9U?t=1m55s 7.18 € http://coollaboratory.com/shop/produ...products_id/26 7.9 € https://www.caseking.de/coollaborato...-zuwa-026.html Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra - novija pasta istog proizvođača After the overwhelming success of the Liquid Pro, the new Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra was developed. Of course the Liquid Ultra is also made of 100% metal, but it has an absolute new usability and offers an outstanding performance. Due to the paste-like texture the application is now very easy. Please notice that the Liquid Ultra is not suitable with the usage of aluminum surfaces. The Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra is available in retail package which includes beside the Liquid Ultra, a printed manual, a brush and a cleaning set (with cleaning tissues and metal grinding pad). Test Liquid Ultra vs Liquid Pro source: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2297140 3770K @ 4.7GHz 1.224v (de-lidded) 3770K @ 5GHz 1.416v (de-lidded) This time Liquid Pro was 1.71c cooler than Ultra. If we use a +/- 2c margin of error there is nothing separating these two compounds. Liquid Ultra is better to work with. I wouldn't use the cotton tips that are supplied with Liquid Pro because I found more compound stayed on the cotton than on the IHS. Also there is the risk of cotton fibers sticking to the die or IHS which would impact temps. I used the brush that is supplied with Liquid Ultra which makes the application very easy. Cleaning is another issue. Liquid Ultra simply wipes off but Liquid Pro often forms tiny balls which when accidentally smeared leaves quite a big mess. I had the stuff all over my fingers by the time I finished wiping it off. If you are using one or the other than stick with it. There is nothing to gain by switching. Arctic Cooling MX-4 vs IC Diamond vs Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra testing subject: Alienware M14x R1 Laptop The specs: i7-2760qm \| 6 GB RAM\| 750 GB HDD \| 1.5GB GT555M \| __________________ Blue Spirit: IMDB popis i preporuke filmova... 100 najboljih filmova 21. stoljeća!...IMDB Top 1,000 movies .... Find similar movies https://i.imgur.com/Y9m9Ove.png COD 141.11.196.66:28960 \|\| COD 141.11.196.66:28940 \|\| COD 185.107.96.125:28977 Zadnje izmijenjeno od: Blue Spirit. 21.08.2015. u 17:43.

21.08.2015., 18:16	#365
JuiceBox Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Sep 2007 Lokacija: Keebwork Postovi: 7,470	I zaboravili ste jednu bitnu stvar, nakon nekog vremena se "zavari". Dakle skida se samo i iskljucivo smirglanjem Neka hvala, shin-etsu radi svoj posao kao zmaj __________________ *The Rich pays to win. The Poor spends to lose.*

21.08.2015., 22:00	#367
JuiceBox Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Sep 2007 Lokacija: Keebwork Postovi: 7,470	Mjesec dana. Tko od nas mjenja pastu svakih mjesec dana ? __________________ *The Rich pays to win. The Poor spends to lose.*

20.05.2015., 12:18	#362
Garro Premium Moj komp Datum registracije: Jun 2009 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 2,354	Ne, ekipa sa FrozenCPUa ima dosta velike sheetove tih padova, pa ih režu (osim ako ne kupiš cijeli sheet). Uglavnom, piše ti veličina pada koju dobiješ, imaš raznih dimenzija (za memorijske čipove, za VRM...). Jedino ne zaboravi da i shipping nešto košta. edit: i naravno, sve dođe propisno zapakirano i zaštićeno.

21.08.2015., 18:06	#364
Cloker Registered User Moj komp Datum registracije: Oct 2014 Lokacija: Bojnik Postovi: 235	^^ +1 Koristim je Inace je CLP bolji od MX-4 ravno za 8C,probao licno na nekoliko socketa...

21.08.2015., 22:08	#368
Brko Protupožarac Moj komp Datum registracije: Aug 2007 Lokacija: Tamo gdje sunce vječno sja Postovi: 22,222	Kupio sam onu veliku špricu Arctic Cooling Ceramique2 na ebayu za 80kn. Napuljkao sam tonu procova sa njom. Pred mjesec dana sam nakon 3 godine skinuo VXa sa 2600K i pasta još nije bila tvrda ni skorena. Lagano sam ju skinuo sa papirnatim ručnikom. Ponovno sam nju stavio i bog te veseli sljedeće 3 godine... Ovo za mjenjanje svakih mjesec dana mi je uljepšalo dan, moram priznat

21.08.2015., 22:11	#369
syss Moderator Moj komp Datum registracije: Nov 2003 Lokacija: Zagreb Postovi: 10,791	ac ceramique koristim već stvarno dugo i baš to... apsolutno joj ništa nemre zub vremena.

21.08.2015., 22:20	#370
Brko Protupožarac Moj komp Datum registracije: Aug 2007 Lokacija: Tamo gdje sunce vječno sja Postovi: 22,222	Tubice od 2g su bile u vemulju po 30kn. A ja sam uzeo krmaču od šprice za manje od 80kn. I to je već imam godinama i tek sam na pola šprice A kad puljkam, ne štedim. Nasaftam tako da pokrije cijelu kapu a opet da ne curi sa strane.