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Staro 28.09.2022., 18:57   #1
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Problem s instalacijom Win 7 ?

Dobio sam stariji laptop „HP 6730b“ s instaliranim windows 7, i radio je super oko 6 mjeseci. I danas nikako da se podignu windowsi, pokušao sam Repair s DVD windows 7 ali ne pomaže. Zatim sam išao na novu instalaciju (s formatiranjem particije) i nakon nekog vremana se pojavi poruka:
Windows cannot install required files. The file may be corrupt or missing. Make sure all files required for installation are available, and restart the installation. Error code: 0x80070017

Preko googlea sam našao nekoliko tutoriala ali svi oni se odnose na windows 10
Šta da radim, pomozite
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Staro 28.09.2022., 19:28   #2
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Ovo ne spada pod Software - Aplikacije, treba premjestiti pod HW ili SW probleme.

Po opisu vjerojatno je storage (čitaj: hdd) oštečen, neispravan.

Prvo treba sa alatima u offline modu testirati hdd,
ako se potvrdi da je ok tek onda ideš dalje.
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Staro 28.09.2022., 20:18   #3
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Ako nije problem reci mi kojim alatom da testiram HD, s obzirom da nemogu podignuti Windowse
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Staro 28.09.2022., 20:48   #4
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Nađi / napravi stariji Hiren's cd (dos baziran),
na njemu ima x boot alata za provjeru ...
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Staro 28.09.2022., 21:02   #5
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Interesantno imam "HirensBoot 15.2" s ovim alatima, ali neznam kojim alatom da to provjerim
Evo spiska alata:
Hard Disk Tools
Active Kill Disk 4.1.2393: Securely overwrites and destroys all data on physical drive (Dos Freeware).
CrystalDiskInfo 4.0.1: HDD health monitoring utility, displays basic HDD information, monitors S.M.A.R.T. values and disk temperature (Windows Freeware).
Darik’s Boot and Nuke (DBAN) 1.0.7: Completely deletes the contents of any hard disk it can detect (Linux Freeware).
DRevitalize 1.2: Repairs bad sectors (physical defects) on hard drives by generating a special sequence of high and low signals around the physically damaged area (Dos Freeware).
DiskView 2.4: View graphical map of your disk, allowing you to check where a file is located or, by clicking on a cluster, seeing which file occupies it (Windows Freeware).
DiskWipe 1.2: Securely erases the contents of a disk replacing it with random data or leaving the drive completely blank (Windows Freeware).
ExcelStor’s ESTest 4.50: ExcelStor hard disk diagnostic utility (Dos Freeware).
Fujitsu HDD Diagnostic Tool 7.00: Check IDE drives for possible defects/problems (Dos Freeware).
Fujitsu IDE Low Level Format 1.0: Low Level Format Tool for Fujitsu Drives (Dos Freeware).
Gateway GwScan 5.12: Gateway hard drive diagnostic utility (Dos Freeware).
Hard Disk Sentinel 1.00.5: Hard Disk health, performance and temperature monitoring tool (Dos Freeware).
HDTune 2.55: HD Tune is a hard disk health, benchmarking, error scanner and information tool (Windows Freeware).
HDAT2 4.9B1: The main function is testing and repair (regenerates) bad sectors for detected devices. A freeware alternative of HDD Regenerator (Dos Freeware).
HDD Capacity Restore 1.2: This tool allows you to restore factory capacity of any hard drive. it does not read from or write to the user data area or perform any kind of formatting, only alters HDD firmware (HPA and DCO settings) (Windows Freeware).
HDD Erase 4.0: Secure erase using a special feature built into most newer hard drives (Dos Freeware).
HDD Low Level Format Tool 2.36: Low-level format tool for S-ATA (SATA), IDE (E-IDE), SCSI, USB, Flash Cards and FIREWIRE external drive enclosures (Windows Freeware).
HDD Scan 3.3: HDDScan is a Low-level HDD diagnostic tool, it scans surface find bad sectors etc (Windows Freeware).
IBM Hitachi Drive Fitness Test 4.16: Quickly and reliably tests SCSI, IDE and SATA drives (Dos Freeware).
IBM Hitachi Feature Tool 2.15: Allows you to control some of the features of the HDD (Dos Freeware).
Maxtor amset utility 4.0: Utility for changing Acoustic Management on the hard drives (Dos Freeware).
Maxtor Low Level Formatter 1.1: Maxtor’s Low Level Format Utility works on any harddrive (Dos Freeware).
Maxtor PowerMax 4.23: Designed to perform diagnostic read/write verifications on Maxtor/Quantum hard drives (Dos Freeware).
MHDD 4.6: Precise diagnostic of the mechanical part of a drive, perform Low-level format, Bad Sector Sepair, access raw sectors, manage S.M.A.R.T (SMART) and other drive parameters such as acoustic management, security, Host Protected Area, etc. (Dos Freeware).
Samsung Disk Diagnose (SHDIAG) 1.28: Diagnose the disk when suspected to have failures (Dos Freeware).
Samsung ESTOOL 3.01v: Drive Diagnostic, Automatic Acoustic Management, Enable/Disable SMART etc (Dos Freeware).
Samsung HDD Utility(HUTIL) 2.10: The Drive Diagnostic Utility (Dos Freeware).
SeaTools for Dos: GUI 2.23 Text 1.10 versions to test Seagate or Maxtor Parallel ATA (PATA and IDE) and Serial ATA (SATA) interface disc drives (Dos Freeware).
SmartUDM 2.00: Hard Disk Drive S.M.A.R.T. Viewer (Dos Freeware).
Toshiba Hard Disk Diagnostic 2.00b: Toshiba hard drive diagnostic utility (Dos Freeware).
Victoria 3.33e and 3.52rus: a freeware program for low-level HDD diagnostics (Dos Freeware).
Victoria 4.46: Universal program for testing storage devices (Windows Freeware)
ViVard 1.0: HDD low-level diagnostics, Surface test with remap, SMART-attributes etc (Dos Freeware).
WDClear 1.30: Restore/Erases the drive back to a factory condition (Dos Freeware).
WDIDLE3 1.05: Modifies the behavior of a Western Digital Green drive to wait longer before positioning the heads in their park position and turning off unnecessary electronics (Dos Freeware).
Western Digital Data Lifeguard Tools 11.2: For the installation of Western Digital EIDE Hard Drives (Dos Freeware).
Western Digital Diagnostics (DLGDIAG) 5.19: Quickly and efficiently verify the status of the drive (Dos Freeware).
Western Digital Data Lifeguard Tools 1.24: Perform drive identification, diagnostics, and repairs on most WD drives (Windows Freeware)
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Staro 28.09.2022., 23:26   #6
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A hebemu ne snalažlivog ... treba imati mota za te aktivnosti

Po oznaci hdd - a otkriješ koji je proizvođač pa onda upotrebiš njihov diagnostic tool,
recimo za WD > Western Digital Diagnostics (DLGDIAG),
nekada radi diagnostic tool i od drugog proizvođača samo tada rezultat treba uzeti sa rezervom.
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Staro 29.09.2022., 10:27   #7
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2.5" 500GB HDD je ispod 100kn, probaj nabaviti drugi i vjerojatno ćeš riješiti problem.
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Staro 29.09.2022., 12:17   #8
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Ma daj, gdje to ima HDD ispod 100 kn, nemoguće odma bi ga uzeo
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Staro 29.09.2022., 14:45   #9
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Ma daj, gdje to ima HDD ispod 100 kn, nemoguće odma bi ga uzeo

Puno ih je Njuškalo, od 80 do 100kn im je cijena.
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Staro 30.09.2022., 13:16   #10
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Kako bi otklonio sumnju u ispravnost DVD drivea, spojio sam vanjski DVD drive i probao istalaciju:
windows 7
windows 8
windows 10
I na sva tri isti problem, nakon restarta laptopa pojavi se crni ekran s porukom "NTLDR is missing" Press ctrl+alt+del tro restart
I tako stalno, ni makac dalje
Ali kad sam ubacio DVD "Hirens boot 15.2" otvara se spisak Mini WinXP, Linux, Dos i sve radi i otvara bez problema
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Staro 30.09.2022., 13:41   #11
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Hirens Boot se diže sa DVDa pa ti eventualno loš hard disk ne predstavlja problem.

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Podigni Mini WinXP, odi na my computer, klikni desnom na disk koji ti je problematičan, properties, tools, check now, i obavezno uključi obje kvačice (fix system errors i recover bad sectors).
To će potrajati dosta, ovisi o veličini diska i nakon toga ćeš znati u kakvom je disk stanju. Ako počne javljati read errore i slično znači da je gotov.

Zadnje izmijenjeno od: Night. 30.09.2022. u 13:49.
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Staro 30.09.2022., 20:19   #12
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Uradio sam sve to šta si mi rekao i nije našao nijednu grešku
Ali neče niti jednu verziju windowsa da instalira
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Staro 30.09.2022., 21:23   #13
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Staro 02.10.2022., 19:12   #14
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Problem riješen, bio neispravan HDD, prijatelj mi dao svoj stari HDD. Tako da sam instalirao Windowse bez problema

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