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Staro 03.02.2025., 08:57   #451
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Pitanje vezano uz fejk frejmove – recimo da vrtim neku jako zahtjevnu igru, nativno na oko 40 frejmova, i uključim taj fejk frejm generator te dobijem duplo više frejmova. Koliko fluidno će igra zapravo izgledati s tim frejmovima? Kad god postavim to pitanje zagovornicima fejk frejm generatora, odgovor izostane.
Fluidnost je jednaka kao da imas "pravih" 80 frameova, ono sta nije jednako je input lag tj. responzivnost.
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Staro 03.02.2025., 11:48   #452
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Da li se taj novi DLSS4 može koristiti bez frame gena? Znači kao nekad DLSS 2, samo za upscale i AA?
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Staro 03.02.2025., 11:58   #453
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Da li se taj novi DLSS4 može koristiti bez frame gena? Znači kao nekad DLSS 2, samo za upscale i AA?
Sve osim FG-a radi na svim RTX karticama koliko je meni poznato...
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Staro 03.02.2025., 11:59   #454
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Naravno, kao i DLSS 3.

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Staro 03.02.2025., 12:02   #455
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Sve osim FG-a radi na svim RTX karticama koliko je meni poznato...
Je, u pravu si. Zaboravio sam da RTX 2xxx i 3xxx niti nemaju fg a dlss4 je podržan na njima
Čitam baš ovo
https://rockstarintel.com/dlss-4-mak...ke-a-new-game/
pa zato pitam
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Staro 03.02.2025., 12:15   #456
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imam instalirane te novije drivere, ali za dlss overide mi pise unsupported za sve igre, u nv appu
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Staro 03.02.2025., 12:47   #457
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Staro 03.02.2025., 13:07   #458
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imam instalirane te novije drivere, ali za dlss overide mi pise unsupported za sve igre, u nv appu
Jesu fixali taj nv app da ne ubija performanse?
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Staro 03.02.2025., 13:23   #459
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imam instalirane te novije drivere, ali za dlss overide mi pise unsupported za sve igre, u nv appu
Ja skinuo DLSS swapper i sa tim aktivirao na nepodržanim igrama.
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Jesu fixali taj nv app da ne ubija performanse?
Jesu i nisu, isključili su taj overlay po defaultu pa većina ljudi nema taj problem. Još uvijek ždere performanse kad je uključen.
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Staro 03.02.2025., 20:48   #461
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Staro 04.02.2025., 07:24   #463
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Pitanje vezano uz fejk frejmove – recimo da vrtim neku jako zahtjevnu igru, nativno na oko 40 frejmova, i uključim taj fejk frejm generator te dobijem duplo više frejmova. Koliko fluidno će igra zapravo izgledati s tim frejmovima? Kad god postavim to pitanje zagovornicima fejk frejm generatora, odgovor izostane.
Nitko ti nije napisao i da ćeš uključivanjem fejk frejmova skinut sa tih pravih 40 na nekih 30ak pravih frejmova i time još povećat lag. Neki min je navodno 80ak pravih frejmova da bi povećanje bilo podnošljivo. I naravno single player igre, u multiju ni pod razno uključivat tu govnariju.
E da, ždere i VRAM kad se uključi.
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Staro 04.02.2025., 10:38   #464
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Staro 04.02.2025., 13:55   #465
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Ispalo je da je 4090 uzrok koja je taman prije bila uštekana, a ne 5080.
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Staro 04.02.2025., 16:18   #466
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Staro 04.02.2025., 16:37   #467
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With the 5000 generation, Nvidia switched to Proshop for the sale of Founders Editions in Europe. However, the retailer had a mishap: the product pages were already available on January 30 before Nvidia's 3 p.m. launch. PCGH shows invoice screenshots of orders placed before 2:30 pm.
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Netko je pitao nedavno da li zbilja ljudi kupuju a da pojma nemaju što kupuju
Ne da ima takvih ljudi nego su debela većina.
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Staro 04.02.2025., 21:03   #469
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Ali koliko od takvih ima 2k eura za baciti na jednu relativno prosječnu grafičku
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Kakve fantastične cijene, 2k€ za tu skalameriju.
Osobno ne bi dao ni da imam iz principa, ali svatko neka barata svojim šoldima kako želi.

OK, znamo da je ovo early adopter porez, ali neće to vj ići ispod 1600€ kada se stabilizira.
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If you were able to snag one of Nvidia's instantly-sold-out GPUs, maybe hold off on updating your drivers for now.
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Today, a fully configured system from a well-respected UK system integrator has arrived at Club386 HQ outfitted with AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor and GeForce RTX 5080 graphics card. At first boot, the system behaves as expected. At second boot, we’re hit by the same blank screen, which leads us to believe the issue is potentially widespread. Our internal testing is ongoing, but for the time being, forcing a PCIe slot to run at 4.0 x16 appears to be the most successful remedy, though even this doesn’t appear to guarantee success.
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This article discusses a thermal hotspot caused by the compact arrangement of ten voltage converters for NVVDDs. These voltage converters are positioned very close together on the board, which means that the conductor paths with the generated voltage have to be routed to the GPU in a very confined space. Particularly affected are boards that are strongly based on the reference design and do not have an eleventh phase for NVVDD. In such cases, suboptimal cooling of the voltage converters (VRM) and the lack of passive cooling on the back of the board can lead to undesirable thermal stress. The focus of this article is on explaining the technical background to this problem and highlighting possible optimization approaches.

Thermal hotspots are caused, for example, by the much too dense arrangement of ten NVVDD voltage converters, which have to cope with high currents and generate heat through their own losses. Boards that are strongly based on the reference design and do without an eleventh NVVDD phase are particularly affected. The problem is exacerbated by the lack of passive cooling on the back of the board and the excessive gap between the VRM and heatsink. This arrangement leads to local hotspots, which not only impair the efficiency of the voltage converters, but in the worst case could also shorten the service life of the components. In tests, temperatures of up to 80 °C were measured in an open setup in a fully air-conditioned room, which can rise to 100 °C in closed housings.

To improve thermal efficiency, a pad mod with thermal putty was carried out to avoid problems with different pad thicknesses.
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Staro 06.02.2025., 21:07   #474
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A gledaj realno, iz mojeg kuta gledanja, hoće li to koštati 2k ili 12k, meni stvarno savršeno identično

Prošli puta (ima nešto godina) kada su driver updejti brickali kartice, trolovi/ljubitelji su išli naokolo i tvrdili kako je to user error. Bit će da su i ovo korisnička pogreška, naročito u pogledu izbora proizvoda
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I kao da ih netko koristi da izvuče maksimum profita s minimumom kartica.
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I kao da ih netko koristi da izvuče maksimum profita s minimumom kartica.
Svi u lancu koriste ovo - nvidija je msrp stavila preblizu cijeni koju AIB-i placaju nvidiji, onda su i AIB-i digli cijene, nakon njih su ducani napravili isto, a onda su tu i skalperi povrh svega.
Ali sama kolicina dostupnih kartica je daleko premala da bi tu bilo neke velike koristi ikome, dugorocno si nvidija cini stetu ovime, vec sad su postigli da je porasla prodaja XTX-ica jer su ljudi vidjeli sta se dogodilo s cijenama 5xxx serije. Da je kolicina 5080-ki "normalna", a s kolicinom i cijena, veliki dio tih koji sad uzimaju 7900 XTX bi uzeo 5080-ke... U svakom slucaju je sad jako los trenutak za kupovat gpu vise klase...
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Bio je loš i prošli launch kad je 4080 bila 1,200$, ili 1,500e kod nas. Sa Nvidiom su loši launchevi skoro postali pravilo.
Novac je na računu, ali ne kupujem u ovim uvjetima. Za 3080 dobijem 400e kad prodam i moram platiti 1,300 za 4080S, jer se 5080 ne isplati nikako. Znači 900e nadoplate za 60% performansi. 210% više love za 60% performansi. U ovih 20 godina što kupujem-prodajem i nadograđujem, nikad nije postojao ovako loš deal ili loša situacija na SH tržištu (osim možda prije 3g).
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Staro 08.02.2025., 00:43   #480
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za nas ordinarus eventualno 4070 ti super ako je ovo točno,ko zna kolko će 5070 ti bit brža od 4080,tj gledajući rtx 5080 možda isto brza ili nešto sporija

This is how RTX 3080 and RTX 4070 Ti SUPER compete in popular games:

RTX 4070 Ti SUPER is 35% faster in 1080p
RTX 4070 Ti SUPER is 27% faster in 1440p
RTX 4070 Ti SUPER is 9% faster in 4K
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