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Staro 15.06.2006., 14:35   #1
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Venice E6 pocetnicki OC :)

Pozdrav ljudi, evo i ja se ulovio malo 939 platforme da vidim kako to funkcionira i da malo usporedim i tako Obzirom da sam se tek nekidan prvi put susreo sa Venicom i cijelom tom pricom, nebih volio u necem pretjerati pa da mi nesto ode u bijeli dim Dakle ovak, ploca je DFI Lanparty NF3 Ultra-D sa Zalmanom VF700Cu na chipsetu i nis posebno, proc Venice 3000+ E6, napajanje Chieftec 360W. Dokle bi ovo jos moglo ici, u stvari me najvise zanima jesu li ovo OK temperature i jesam li sve u BIOS-u ok podesio. Komp je na stolu u sobi sa BOX coolerom i AS5 pastom.

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Staro 15.06.2006., 14:41   #2
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Ne idi preko 1.55V i samo tjeraj koliko ide stabilno, dalje nema nikakvih mudrosti.
I HTT drži ispod 820-830...
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HTT da drzim ispod 820-830? Zasto? Procitao sam negdje da mora biti ispod 1000, dakle sad je na 325*3 = 975... sad vise nisam u nista siguran. I koji napon bi bio tocniji - ovaj koji pokazuje u BIOS-u ili ovaj koji ocitava SpeedFan? Komentar na temperature? Jesu li previsoke? Nekako mi je chipset previse uzaren, na bazi Zalmana se nemogu drzati prsti duze od 10 sekundi
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HTT da drzim ispod 820-830? Zasto? Procitao sam negdje da mora biti ispod 1000, dakle sad je na 325*3 = 975... sad vise nisam u nista siguran. I koji napon bi bio tocniji - ovaj koji pokazuje u BIOS-u ili ovaj koji ocitava SpeedFan? Komentar na temperature? Jesu li previsoke? Nekako mi je chipset previse uzaren, na bazi Zalmana se nemogu drzati prsti duze od 10 sekundi
Pa jesi lijepo gore napisao da imaš nf3 ploču? Dakle, HTT je po defaultu 800, a 1000 je kod nf4, zar ne?
Uostalom, povećanjem takta HTT-a ne dobivaš nikakve pomake na bolje, jer je propusnost dovoljna i sa znatno manjim taktovima.
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Smanji voltažu proca, 1.6V je puno za box cooler.
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Pa jesi lijepo gore napisao da imaš nf3 ploču? Dakle, HTT je po defaultu 800, a 1000 je kod nf4, zar ne?
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nije točno, nf3 ultra chipset također htt radi na 1ghz, to 800 je za sck. 754 ploče
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Pa jesi lijepo gore napisao da imaš nf3 ploču? Dakle, HTT je po defaultu 800, a 1000 je kod nf4, zar ne?
Uostalom, povećanjem takta HTT-a ne dobivaš nikakve pomake na bolje, jer je propusnost dovoljna i sa znatno manjim taktovima.
Hm, mislio sam da je 1000 za s939, a 800 za s754. Ma jos mi je sve to malo preapstraktno, ja sam naviko na klasicni FSB Sta, da onda stavim mnozitelj 2x? 300x2=600? :confused:
EDIT: mislih 325x2=650?
EDIT2: tek sad vidih Caliev odgovor, znaci ipak je sve ok
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da, jer je ovo sck.939 nF3 a na sck.754 raDi na 800. samo drži HTT ispod 1000 i sve ok.

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nije točno, nf3 ultra chipset također htt radi na 1ghz, to 800 je za sck. 754 ploče

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Ne razumem sta nije jasno, svi Socket 754 procesori rade sa 800 MHz HT magistralom, a svi Socket 939 (neovisno od cipseta) rade sa 1000 MHz HT magistralom. Dakle ponavljam HT magistrala nema nikakve veze sa cipsetom nego sa procesorom.
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Staro 15.06.2006., 15:48   #16
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Obriši prašinu i stavi gore neku jeftinaru tipa GT80mm 19db i staviš ga na 7V, zamjeniš crnu i žutu žicu i bude tiho, a zalman hladan.
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Staro 15.06.2006., 16:02   #17
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Obriši prašinu i stavi gore neku jeftinaru tipa GT80mm 19db i staviš ga na 7V, zamjeniš crnu i žutu žicu i bude tiho, a zalman hladan.
Evo bas sam za probu sad prikopcao Zalmanov 80mm vent, na neku foru se jako sporo okrece, cca 1000 rpm... baza Zalmana je sad mlaka No poanta Zalmana na chpsetu je bila necujnost, vidit cu jos kako ce se ponasati u kucistu, pa ako ce biti potrebe iskemijat cu nesto Imas kakav prijedlog kako bi ga se dalo ucvrstiti iznad Zalmana? : cheers2

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A slušaj,sve na 7V je nečujno, a samo pasivan zalman...HM... Što se tiče "priključka". Nemam sve to pred sobom, teško je sad reći. IMPROVIZIRAJ!
S obzirom da nisu komponente u kučištu i ova ideja ti je OK.
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Vidit cemo Evo sad sam spusitio na 315*8 i mogao sam smanjiti napon procu za dvije stepenice, mozda i vise, jos testiram. Stvar je sad dosta hladnija. Sta mislite jel mi se isplati ganjati npr. 357*7?
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..ne isplati se nabijati htt jer ce ti se chipset uzariti,mislim da je cilj overclocka dizanje frekvencije procesora stoga mi nije jasno zasto spustas mnozitelj ???...vrati mnozitelj na 9 i vidi koliko ide...1.55 max za proc..htt drzati u rasponu od 800-1000...i da stvorim jos malo zbunjoze postoje ploce soc 939 koje imaju htt na 800 kao ova iz siga jer koristi n-force 250gb chipset a ne ultra...razlike nema bez brige....
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ma za chipset je dost pasivac. na epox 8kda3(nf3250gb) je pasivac ko na8rda na southbridgeu (nf2 ultra 400+mcp)
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...malo ga popipaj pa vidi je li je mozda VRUĆ !!!
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Ja sam ti svoj proc natjer na 2.6GHz pri 1.45V... naravno da nije bilo stabilno al se nije ni grijalo Kako su ti drugi već rekli, tako je i meni na 1.55V sve bilo full stabilno i na 100% oterečenja (SuperPI, Prime95...). I sve to s Box coolerom.
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..ne isplati se nabijati htt jer ce ti se chipset uzariti,mislim da je cilj overclocka dizanje frekvencije procesora stoga mi nije jasno zasto spustas mnozitelj ???
Koliko ja znam uvijek ce biti brze 325*8 nego 290*9 zbog vece propusnosti sabirnice (ili HT-a, kako to vec AMD ima). Ako fulavam nek me netko slobodno ispravi
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je istina je.... ali možda dođeš do 320x9
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Vidit cemo, danas cu piknut Freezera 64 Pro, pa cemo viditi dokle ide Na kojem naponu ti drzis svog?
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tko ja?

moj je na 1.45v, jel ploča ne da više, nažalost...

planiram v-mod, onda pucam na nekih 305x9
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tko ja?

moj je na 1.45v, jel ploča ne da više, nažalost...

planiram v-mod, onda pucam na nekih 305x9
Nemoj s v-modom te ploče čekat....imam ja tu ploču čim sam ju kupio odma sam išao lemiti...nema smisla čekati...1.55v...i 2.7ghz ...A još da ne kažem kako je jednostavno...
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heh... trenutno nemam neku normalnu lemilicu pa me strah... i hebe me to što onda više nemam garanciju..

jel se može napraviti mod bez lemljenja, npr sa žicom?
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Staro 16.06.2006., 16:48   #30
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Hm...pa neznam baš kako bi to žicom....najbolje ti je sa lemilicom...a u vezi garancije...pa uopce nije bed...ak budes trebao...tj ak ode ploca sam ju donesi do mene pa mi to sredimo...lako se taj tinol očisti...
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